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Result of the Patriot Act 07 Jun 2013 19:23 #21

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Surely if you're a conspiracy theorist worth his salt or whatever then far from being worried you should be excited?

Being arrested for having slightly misguided general opinions about the government is far more unlikely than being given a slot on television or radio by David Icke to air such views to the public en masse :rofl:

I see what you're implying with the student of history thing, I don't think it's likely at all in this day in age that a form of government and ideological movement resembling the Nazi party and Fascist ideology of the 20th century would gain enough popular support to be a serious enough threat to worry about.

There will be right wing militia planning attacks on the US government if they continue the course set by Obama of a more internationalist and liberal progressive approach to global hegemony, and more socialist approach to public office and the powers of government, that is why I ultimately support the use of these wiretaps etc..

Hopefully we can rely on the US populace to vote for progressive leaders in the future like Barack Obama.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I question power, I don't always swallow the official line. Researching my previous posts would confirm this.

I get what you're saying about how it is unlikely regarding regimes but I think that people who lived in the regime before one became oppressive thought the same thing don't you think. The way to do it nowadays would be to gradually erode rights from the populace. Historically it wasn't just fascist regimes. Heck, in Sweden they forcibly removed gypsy children from parents.

My opposition to certain laws is nothing to do with the figurehead, I have said nothing that would indicate otherwise. I like Obama for some things, dislike him for others. i am not attacking Obama.

Whatever Obama supports i will never agree to anyone knowing my personal life without my consent, it isn't there business. I will never agree with the machinery of oppression to be put in to place, no matter how harmless it may seem. They are trying to put similar laws through in the EU so you're mistaken if you see my concern as an attack on Obama, highlighting possible problems with a law Bush signed off (although Obama has made some amendments, some good, some bad.

Questioning extent of power isn't bad as when you have no power left you won't be able to question anymore.
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Result of the Patriot Act 08 Jun 2013 08:41 #22

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Whatever Obama supports i will never agree to anyone knowing my personal life without my consent, it isn't there business. I will never agree with the machinery of oppression to be put in to place, no matter how harmless it may seem. They are trying to put similar laws through in the EU

^ This.
Questioning extent of power isn't bad as when you have no power left you won't be able to question anymore.

^ & this.
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Result of the Patriot Act 08 Jun 2013 14:00 #23

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Obama (along with all the frontline puppets of before and to come) et al really do believe themselves to be the Presidents Of The World, don't they? That they can do what they like to the rest of us, and kid Americans that they won't do it to Their Own - is that enough for all Americans? Are they happy enough to sit letting their Masters do what they like to everyone, as long as it's not to them?

The sooner America loses its place as a World Power, the better.
"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
if he undaunted be....". (Beowulf).

"The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths... Beautiful people do not just happen". (Elisabeth Kubler-Ross).


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Result of the Patriot Act 10 Jun 2013 10:54 #24

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Source revealed for PRISM leak
A former CIA technical worker has been identified by the UK's Guardian newspaper as the source of leaks about US surveillance programmes.

Edward Snowden, 29, is described by the paper as an ex-CIA technical assistant, currently employed by defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton.

The Guardian said his identity was being revealed at his own request.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22836378
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Result of the Patriot Act 10 Jun 2013 13:13 #25

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cantata wrote:
The sooner America loses its place as a World Power, the better.

Hmmm...

Would you prefer China instead? :umm:
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Result of the Patriot Act 10 Jun 2013 19:34 #26

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Edward Snowden Interview

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