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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 19:53 #21

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Stella Creasy...

It would be sort of like some taboo fetish thing you wouldn't tell your friends about. Like eating ladies' poo or asphyxiating yourself with an orange stuffed up your arse.


i would have no problem mentioning Stella Creasy to a mate, I might draw the line at citrusy auto-asphyxiation
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 19:57 #22

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I Love Stella Creasy MP wrote:
Should politics be the reserve of aristocrats who have no need for money or should politicians be bankrolled by businesses instead of given a wage?

You know they use the money to buy private property right. :P :umm:

Maybe you could politely ask them to never spend their wages on property then, since private property ownership should be abolished and all. :smith:
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 20:06 #23

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As the Ultimate Seeker i insist on being up to date, completely up to date and thus completely fluid and undefined in accordance with the ancient principles of the way that cannot be named.
Ed is not a Tory, that is a complete misrepresentation of the facts, he is a progressive Social Democrat, you are a satirist at heart, but this is a double edged sword and comes with the tendency to flippantly and dismissively misrepresent some people's positions.

Labour may not be a Left Wing party, but they're the only party we have, now I know you seem to advocate direct action on one hand, but not in the mediatory role between the Labour party and the masses, ie between actual political reps involved in public life and the private citizens alienated from public life.

Surely it has not escaped your notice that some countries still haven't achieved, or managed to sustain for as long as the UK, a Party of organized Labour? Labor in the US was obliterated by the 60's leaving Liberals and conservatives or Dems and Reps, in the UK we have a Labour party that has a history of being fairly militant, you have to take that into account aswell as the membership and activist base of the LP, there is a LP left wing, Red Labour or the LRC and an LP right wing like Progress, or the Blairite faction.

Ed is under pressure from both sides, he has to balance within his own party, and not make the mistakes made by Brown and Blair which he has acknowledged in regard to various things like Immigration, he has to also appeal to the electorate, this is no mean feat, but I do believe that as a Milliband he is fundamentally sympathetic to the right cause.

I'd even say the same with Blair tbh, maybe for another thread, what we have to acknowledge is that post Reaganomics, post Thatcher and post 9-11 we live in a New World, the old Bosses vs the Workers paradigm has shifted, we're all private individuals now, Blair couldn't stop the Neo-Liberal ball from rolling and nobody seems willing to yet, but Ed will at least attempt to divert some of it's momentum away from the poorest in society.
As long term unemployed I'm quite excited by the prospect of a guaranteed job, whoever that was they have good taste, Stella Creasy MP is a BAAAAABE!! You don't get babes like that in UKIP :rofl:

What is this party of organised Labour of which you speak? Labour operated to maintain a moderate manifestation of organised labour while essentially ensuring the same status quo as the Tories, except in an era where the working class weren't primed to put up with as much bullshit as they are now. Ed speaks the same language as everyone else, the language of social inclusion and stakeholders and market solutions. In fact, as a side note, it's really worth maybe at some point having a thread about all the Newspeak that has crept into all kinds of party political down to Local Authority discourse.

Blair decided to just go with the flow. But I think any original pretensions of a desire for social justice were conclusively exposed when he revealed he was on a mission from God, and God wanted him to earn about 20 million a year for knowing lots of people and being an ex PM. I think what happened to Blair is that one day he had a dream where God appeared and Lo! Margaret Thatcher was at his side. And she spake Go forth and remake Labour as new in my image, for you are the chosen of the Lord.

Your guaranteed job will be a few months of guaranteed minimum wage and then so long sucker, thanks for helping us manipulate the unemployment figures.
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 20:10 #24

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i would have no problem mentioning Stella Creasy to a mate,

We have the 60s to thank for this kind of depravity being normalised. It started with miniskirts and ended up with people blatantly flaunting their penchant for sex with class enemies.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 20:25 #25

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Chuck Random wrote:
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i would have no problem mentioning Stella Creasy to a mate,

We have the 60s to thank for this kind of depravity being normalised. It started with miniskirts and ended up with people blatantly flaunting their penchant for sex with class enemies.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Children?!?!?! Haven't even been on a first date yet
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Chuck Random wrote:
username wrote:

i would have no problem mentioning Stella Creasy to a mate,

We have the 60s to thank for this kind of depravity being normalised. It started with miniskirts and ended up with people blatantly flaunting their penchant for sex with class enemies.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Children?!?!?! Haven't even been on a first date yet

That's a point. If you must engage in this perversion, make sure you use a condom. Imagine! Some half human, half MP hybrid child.
Sat in its high chair saying Where is my breakfast? You are falling behind in key policy areas faaaather in a Damien voice. Spending hours working out key performance indicators for Lego spaceship assembly that was sold off to the Star Wars action figures after Darth Vader submitted a competitive bid based on Ewok workfare labour.

Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 20:42 #27

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Chuck Random wrote:
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Chuck Random wrote:
username wrote:

i would have no problem mentioning Stella Creasy to a mate,

We have the 60s to thank for this kind of depravity being normalised. It started with miniskirts and ended up with people blatantly flaunting their penchant for sex with class enemies.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Children?!?!?! Haven't even been on a first date yet

That's a point. If you must engage in this perversion, make sure you use a condom. Imagine! Some half human, half MP hybrid child.
Sat in its high chair saying Where is my breakfast? You are falling behind in key policy areas faaaather in a Damien voice. Spending hours working out key performance indicators for Lego spaceship assembly that was sold off to the Star Wars action figures after Darth Vader submitted a competitive bid based on Ewok workfare labour.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Noted :D
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 20:43 #28

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Chuck Random wrote:
Spending hours working out key performance indicators for Lego spaceship assembly that was sold off to the Star Wars action figures after Darth Vader submitted a competitive bid based on Ewok workfare labour.

:larf:
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 22:42 #29

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What I like best about Charlie Beitch is his MILI STREAK :D

Blood is thicker than water, they say.
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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More cheese Gromit?

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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 23:04 #31

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Hailsy Hailarious!
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 23:10 #32

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He's quite clearly not meant to be taken seriously, or for real.

The guys a joke. There are online clips of him speaking where he just repeats himself mindlessly, its ridiculous.

How stupid do they think we are?
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 23:37 #33

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Hailsy Hailarious!

Red Ed?

If only.
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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 23:40 #34

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How stupid do they think we are?

This stupid.

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Ed Milliband 07 Jun 2013 23:42 #35

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Chuck Random wrote:


Red Ed?

If only.


Communism/anarchism always was Jewish, you must be kidding. He is the prototype of a Jewish politician.
Samantha could be Lady Gaga's cousin, or that of Chelsea Clinton or Beatrice of York ... in fact she is.
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Ed Milliband 08 Jun 2013 00:12 #36

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
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Red Ed?

If only.


Communism/anarchism always was Jewish, you must be kidding. He is the prototype of a Jewish politician.
Samantha could be Lady Gaga's cousin, or that of Chelsea Clinton or Beatrice of York ... in fact she is.

How do you work that out?

The first work of anarchist philosophy in its modern form came from William Godwin (Mary Shelley's dad) in 1793 - he was a regular English guy. Proudhon who heavily influenced both anarchism and Marx was an anti-semite. Marx didn't invent communism in any way shape or form - he was just a very clever man who drew off multiple other people. He was Jewish by lineage, but slagged off Jews. And Bakunin, an enormous figure in anarchism, probably the biggest alongside Kropotkin, didn't like Jews either. Jews have been prominent in anarchism as well. There was a lively Jewish anarchist scene in London - because lots of Jews were crammed into sweat shops living in poverty, so a bit of social justice probably seemed like a good idea. But the big figure there was Rudolf Rocker (father of anarcho-syndicalism) who was a non-Jewish German who hung round with them. It's silly to say either 'are Jewish' as that entire branch of thinking was developed by all kinds of people. Given Kropotkin and Bakunin, you'd have to say anarchism owes more to rebellious Russians of noble birth.
The only really big Jewish names in the heyday of anarchism I can think off offhand are soulmates Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman. Why would them being Jewish be of any more significance than, say, Errico Malatesta being Italian or Elisee Reclus being French?

And how can a political philosophy that more often than not rejects religion entirely (both communism and anarchism tend to reject religion, but don't always. Certainly you can get Christian anarchists. I've met some) be seen as somehow all about a religion anyway?
Like people of other faiths, Jews have been attracted to every political philosophy going. As you would expect.

And even if they were somehow Jewish - so what?

And what is a "Jewish politician"?
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Here we go....Ed repeating himself. You couldn't make this up... :roll:

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Here we go....Ed repeating himself. You couldn't make this up... :roll:


Shocking! :eek2:

Is this for real? :D
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Ed Milliband 08 Jun 2013 01:13 #39

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pheony wrote:
Shocking! :eek2:

Is this for real? :D

Its easier than answering the questions properly! :larf:

round the negotiating table bla bla bla... rhetoric bla bla bla

round the negotiating table bla bla bla... rhetoric bla bla bla

round the negotiating table bla bla bla... rhetoric bla bla bla

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Ed Milliband 08 Jun 2013 07:42 #40

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Here we go....Ed repeating himself. You couldn't make this up... :roll:


Shocking! :eek2:

Is this for real? :D

Yep....that Q&A with Milliband was actually broadcast on BBC news not so long ago. Unbelievable isn't it.

He's unelectable. & what's worse, he's obviously meant to be unelectable. So what does that say about our so-called democracy?
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