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TOPIC: What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more.

What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:40 #1

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The Greeks had a couple more words to describe love than us English speakers.

I think in the modern world Love has come to mean Eros, or Philia in the Greek, these were far more personal connotations, for things one prefers, for things one desires.

Another one the Greeks used was Agape, now this translates roughly as Loving-kindness, it was used in 1 Corinthians13 and is translated in the KJV 1611 as "Charity":
according to the author of Corinthians13, agape:

(verse 4)
is long suffering (i.e. tolerant, patient)
is kind
is free of jealousy, envy and pride
(verse 5)
does not display unseemly behavior
is unselfish
is not touchy, fretful or resentful
takes no account of the evil done to it [outwardly ignores a suffered wrong]
(verse 6)
hates evil
is associated with honesty
(verse 7)
protects
trusts
hopes
perseveres
(verse 8)
triumphs
(verse 13)
is greater than either faith or hope
If what Pfiz constantly says about words being corrupted, their meanings lost or watered down, then I think we definitely have a candidate with "love".

A word people use to describe quavers, or something they think tastes nice "i love quavers" or "i love the new nike SB's {which were probably made in a sweatshop}" should not be given the reverence it is as a description of human relations, it's a lazy, meaningless catchphrase, and subconsciously everybody knows it!
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:50 #2

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“But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence, . . . truth is considered profane, and only illusion is sacred. Sacredness is in fact held to be enhanced in proportion as truth decreases and illusion increases, so that the highest degree of illusion comes to be seen as the highest degree of sacredness.”

Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:52 #3

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Friday, 30th August 2013
Leicester Crown Court heard a 16 year old girl had been used as a "sexual commodity" and left with internal injuries.

The girl told the men she was a prostitute, but the judge said they should have seen she was vulnerable and helped her.

The men, whose ages range from 20 to 39, were jailed for between eight months and five years.
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:52 #4

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Lovin' this thread mate.









Sorry I couldn't help it. I'll go now...
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:53 #5

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Discordian!
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 19:55 #6

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"my work consists of two parts: of the one which is here, and of everything which I have not written. And precisely this second part is the important one".

Ludwig Wittgenstein in his Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, in a letter to Ludwig von Ficker (1919)
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 23:29 #7

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It's 'no' more.... not,' know' more. ;) :P
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 23:46 #8

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:D

You're going to have to post the song in the 'what am I listening to thread' in order to educate him phe..... :P
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 30 Aug 2013 23:52 #9

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diamondgeezer wrote:
:D

You're going to have to post the song in the 'what am I listening to thread' in order to educate him phe..... :P

I'm shocked...what with him being so bloody intelligent. I'm a right thicko, but still noticed his little mistake. :yup:

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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 03:48 #10

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I think it was intentional. :P

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1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 03:56 #11

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He's bound to agree with you nov..... :chuckle:
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 04:22 #12

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novum wrote:
I think it was intentional. :P

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Oh yeah...."know more"..as in, know more about me. :clap:
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 08:20 #13

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pheony wrote:
novum wrote:
I think it was intentional. :P

:carryon:

Oh yeah...."know more"..as in, know more about me. :clap:

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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 08:46 #14

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There's my next 10 hours sorted.

1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 09:43 #15

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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 31 Aug 2013 10:09 #16

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Lol :D thanks JonB
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 01 Sep 2013 01:48 #17

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A pun, methinks! :teef:
"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
if he undaunted be....". (Beowulf).

"The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths... Beautiful people do not just happen". (Elisabeth Kubler-Ross).


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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 04 Sep 2013 10:46 #18

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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 05 Sep 2013 15:30 #19

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Francis Bacon:
Nuptial love maketh mankind; friendly love perfecteth it; but wanton love corrupteth and embaseth it

agree, disagree?
also:
Men ought to beware of this passion which loseth not only other things, but itself....Whosoever esteemeth too much of amorous affection quitteth both riches and wisdom.
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What is love, Baby don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me, know more. 05 Sep 2013 15:45 #20

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Problematic, What does the word wanton cover? if it is meant to cover where one party uses another for gratification to the detriment of the other, I'll go with it, but what I have seen is often 'wanton love' is an accusation thrown at those having an openly good time.
It also should never be confused with wonton love, which is not at all wrong, even when displayed openly in an oriental restaurant.
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