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TOPIC: 'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years

'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 09:06 #1

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Bloody hell. :(

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25046624

Three women rescued from a house after allegedly being held as slaves for 30 years were kept in "horrific conditions", a charity has said.

Freedom Charity said it had been called by a woman who said she and two others were being held in south London.

A Malaysian woman, 69, an Irish woman, 57, and a Briton, 30, were rescued on 25 October, it emerged on Thursday.

A 67-year-old man and woman, understood to be married, were arrested in Lambeth and later bailed until January.

Detective Inspector Kevin Hyland, from the Metropolitan Police's human trafficking unit, said: "These women are highly traumatised, having been held in servitude for at least 30 years with no real exposure to the outside world, and, trying to find out exactly what has happened over three decades will understandably take some time."

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The women were found following delicate phone conversations between the charity and the 57-year-old, who had secretly gained access to a phone.

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What we are learning is just how long this police investigation may take.

It's already been up and running for some weeks now but the arrests made on Thursday were the first the public knew of it.

There are still many questions to be answered, but similar cases in the past have required a delicate handling of victims who can be extremely disorientated.

At the very least the three women - whom detectives are trying to gain information from - may not know the world as we know it. A safe house may feel very out of context.

Officers had to make sure the women were aware of their intentions.

She first called on 18 October and there followed a number of phone conversations over a week.

The three women eventually left the property when the occupants of the house were not around, the charity said.

They were met by police and representatives from the group, and were then moved to a safe location.

Speaking to the BBC, Aneeta Prem, founder of Freedom Charity, said it was investigating how the women had remained hidden for so long.

"In a very busy capital city we often don't know our neighbours. We're looking at people who were kept against their will in an ordinary residential street in central London," she said.

Ms Prem said of the initial contact with the Irish woman: "She said she had been held against her will.

"She was able to use a phone but that was done in a very secret way. The people in the house didn't know she had it.

"It was a process of just over a week where there was lots of phone calls and they gained the trust of the charity, and by doing that they felt confident to reveal enough information.

"Obviously the police were involved, and they managed to walk out of the house when nobody was around.


Det Insp Kevin Hyland: "We have never seen anything of this magnitude"
"We were waiting for them with the police and we managed to get them to a place of safety.

"They have absolutely nothing now and as a charity we're trying to support them.

"It was a very emotional time. When we got the message they were outside the front door, the whole call centre erupted in cheers and there were tears, and everyone was incredibly emotional to know we had helped to rescue three ladies who had been held in such horrific conditions."
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 10:07 #2

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It is more common than anybody thinks, and it is encouraged by our laws. Sure there are laws against slavery, but there are also laws which facilitate it. Anybody of a certain wealth coming into the country can bring their servants in also on the pay and conditions of the country of origin. Which means it is next to impossible to check the conditions of these workers. I remember when this came up in the Eighties the government justified it, because they did not want to put off wealthy people from coming here and spending money.
We are supposed to have minimum wage, you hear it talked about all the time, so how can there be unpaid interns working for almost all large companies.
Truth is the slave masters of these women might be prosecuted, because they are probably not rich enough to be above the law. And meanwhile forced marriages and the east European sex industry goes from strength to strength.
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 10:19 #3

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The 30 year old woman was probably born in that house. That's the speculation in the article.

Born into slavery that lasted for 30 years without anyone realising, now, in modern day Britain. That's disturbing. :(
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 11:06 #4

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It maybe disturbing, but it is also becoming not that uncommon an occurrence.
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 11:11 #5

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True.

& think just how many similar cases to this one there must be taking place, right now, with no-one knowing. Possibly on the street you live on.
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 13:32 #6

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A police spokesman on our local news yesterday was quoted as saying how sad this case is (and I fully agree) and that the police were shocked because they were MORE USED TO DEALING WITH CASES OF ABOUT 10 YEARS SLAVERY and this was their first case of this length of time.

USED TO DEALING WITH slavery cases of any length of time in Britian, 2013?????? :conf: What a disgraceful admission.
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 13:37 #7

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It's awful. One does have to wonder about what's going on in the house next door to you.
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 15:03 #8

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Slavery suspects previously arrested in 1970s, police reveal

"The three ‘slaves’ kept captive in a London house were denied medical treatment, despite one telling her alleged captors she had had a stroke, it is believed". :(

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10467140/South-London-slave-investigation-live.html
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 22 Nov 2013 15:12 #9

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It's still galling when the failure of officials in place to help and protect people (supposedly) is revealed this often and to this extent. We know we can't, but there's a belief that we should be able to trust and rely on the police, social services and their ilk. Instead, they can hardly be bothered (and maybe just never could be) and that's struly shocking every time.

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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 23 Nov 2013 07:06 #10

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Brainwashing ordeal of the London slave women kept in 'invisible handcuffs' for more than 30 years
Police refuse to say what couple were arrested for or if they were convicted
Detectives believe the suspects were known to authorities 'over decades'
Malaysian woman, 69, Irish woman, 57, and British woman, 30, rescued
Police reveal they were 'beaten' and 'brainwashed' but not sexually abused
Malaysian was said to have been refused medical help after suspected stroke
The trio were held by 'invisible handcuffs' and only allowed out supervised
37 officers on case and 2,500 items taken in 55 bags from Lambeth house
Bailed couple banned from returning home and have their passports seized

The couple suspected of keeping three women as slaves for 30 years used cult-like techniques to brainwash their victims, it was claimed today.
The extraordinary psychological control they exerted meant the three were kept captive in ‘invisible handcuffs’. Local politicians and community leaders briefed on the case compared their ordeal to people trapped in a religious cult.
The details emerged as detectives revealed the two suspects arrested over the case were known to police and had been detained in the 1970s. They also said the pair, both foreign, are being investigated over unspecified immigration offences as well as allegations relating to slavery

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511842/London-slave-house-suspects-looked-like-normal-family-arrested-1970s.html
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 24 Nov 2013 11:47 #11

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Sex, drugs, blasphemy and arrogance: Depravity of The Crystal Methodist 'who doesn't believe in God', revealed in his own brazen texts to his dealer


Self portrait: Paul Flowers in a mobile phone picture he sent to drug dealer Peter Wilson

Paul Flowers kept up an astonishing stream of sex and drug obsessed texts, even after his humiliating recent performance before the Commons Treasury Select Commitee and as The Mail on Sunday prepared last week’s revelations about his drug use.
The texts are littered with references to ‘coke’ (cocaine), ‘ket’ (ketamine), and crack, as shown by this selection from exchanges with dealer Peter Wilson (whose name we have changed).
They provide an insight into how he was leading an increasingly depraved lifestyle and show his growing obsession with a 17-year-old friend of Wilson’s, despite knowing he was ‘100 per cent straight’.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512511/Sex-drugs-blasphemy-depravity-arrogance-Crystal-Methodist-didnt-believe-God--brazen-texts.html
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Depravity of The Crystal Methodist 'who doesn't believe in God

Crystal Methodist.....that wins. :rofl:
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'Slave' women rescued: Three held in 'horrific conditions' in London for 30 years 24 Nov 2013 12:42 #13

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Slave People Discovered Living En Masse In UK

It was today discovered that about 60 million people have been being kept in state of captive slavery within the United Kingdom.

The shock revelation came to light when America received a desperate telephone call from call centre workers in Wigan. Plucking up courage during their lunch break, they had phoned the White House asking for help from the land of liberty and freedom.

They alleged that they had been forced to work long hours in demeaning, soul destroying labour for far less than the value of their work and if they did not do were threatened with destitution and/or be handed over to a professional torturer known as a "job centre advisor" who would crush their spirit and sap their strength. The streets of the country are patrolled by armed guards who lean heavily on any attempt to coordinate a rebellion.

The call centre workers claimed they had been brainwashed into a submissive state by repeated messages that if they were eternally locked in futile toil in a state of helpless servitude it's their own fault and they deserve it if they're not like those carefree rich people on Grand Designs. Every day they are subjected to repeated messages it's inevitable that things will remain the way they are except probably get worse unless they work harder to give rich people more money.

The call centre workers begged the White House to send out the authorities to arrest the ringleaders and liberate them from bondage. However, a White House spokesperson said unfortunately that's the way they do things there too, though a job at Subway may be available for the right applicant with a visa.
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Slave People Discovered Living En Masse In UK

It was today discovered that about 60 million people have been being kept in state of captive slavery within the United Kingdom.

The shock revelation came to light when America received a desperate telephone call from call centre workers in Wigan. Plucking up courage during their lunch break, they had phoned the White House asking for help from the land of liberty and freedom.

They alleged that they had been forced to work long hours in demeaning, soul destroying labour for far less than the value of their work and if they did not do were threatened with destitution and/or be handed over to a professional torturer known as a "job centre advisor" who would crush their spirit and sap their strength. The streets of the country are patrolled by armed guards who lean heavily on any attempt to coordinate a rebellion.

The call centre workers claimed they had been brainwashed into a submissive state by repeated messages that if they were eternally locked in futile toil in a state of helpless servitude it's their own fault and they deserve it if they're not like those carefree rich people on Grand Designs. Every day they are subjected to repeated messages it's inevitable that things will remain the way they are except probably get worse unless they work harder to give rich people more money.

The call centre workers begged the White House to send out the authorities to arrest the ringleaders and liberate them from bondage. However, a White House spokesperson said unfortunately that's the way they do things there too, though a job at Subway may be available for the right applicant with a visa.

See, this kind of thing is unacceptable but more "understandable" in a country/continent the size of America.... but in the UK? A patch of rock that fits into some of the American lakes time and times over? How can it happen (at all, never mind to this extent) in a country this small and puny?

Ditto ALL crime, really - child abuse, drug smuggling, people trafficking, etc, in a country THIS SMALL? Do any of "the authorities" ever shift their arses and actually DO their jobs?
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I don't know if you ever read this Cantata



Or are aware of the subsequent controversy. Their thesis is that material inequality breeds a raft of social problems (including crime, addiction, teenage pregnancy) and go into why they think this (obviously too much to go into here). They claim the more materially equal societies are, the less social problems tend to manifest. This spawned a ferocious attack from the right - with numerous 'debunkings' - because it's basically saying it doesn't matter what you do or how much you spend, if your society is unequal it will fuck it up. This obviously goes totally against the prevailing ideology which sees material inequality as both necessary and desirable, even to be evangelised like in that Boris Johnson piece DG posted. The UK is, of course, near the top of the list in terms of material inequality.
So it's rich and we're generally better off than people in the third world, but the gap between richest and poorest is enormous, whereas poorer countries may be overall more equal.

I think their argument is not just persuasive it's bleedin' obvious, without all their graphs.

I'd recommend you check it out if you haven't already.
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I will read through it, thanks Our Chuck. and don't talk to ME about "inequality". As a mature student single mother with (mild) asthma.... it's the very reason I'm about to try to transfer out of this fekkin ARCHAIC culture at the college I'm at, into the Leamington Spa site where, yes!, they are accustomed to older people, partnerless parents doing their best for themselves and their children, who are NOT a "risk" and a "liability" that they "don't think they want on their yard" except to perhaps do "smaller tasks" such as "hose the hay-nets"..... And YES, I have just been told this!

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Police alerted Lambeth about ‘slavery house’ 15 years ago

Lambeth Council are facing questions tonight about its failure to intervene earlier to help the women allegedly held as slaves for three decades, as it emerged that police had contacted officials with concerns about the family 15 years ago.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-alerted-lambeth-about-slavery-house-15-years-ago-8960549.html
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'I'm trapped like a fly in a spider's web': Slave girl's agonised plea in one of 500 letters to the neighbour she was obsessed with

Rosie, 30, penned hundreds of desperate letters and poems from captivity, describing how she suffered ‘unspeakable torment’ at the hands of a couple who adopted her when she was a baby after her parents died in a fire.
In a series of anguished letters, the terrified woman said: ‘I’m like a fly trapped in a spider’s web.’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512718/Im-trapped-like-fly-spiders-web-Slave-girls-agonised-plea-neighbour-obsessed-with.html

I want to scream after reading the above. To think this poor woman suffered, "unspeakable torment" from when she was a baby. :(

Her captors should be put down.
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Her captors should be put down.

I can't disagree.

What they have done is basically steal another human beings life from them....she will never fully recover from this.

Her captors should be treated with the same severity by the law as if they had committed rape, or murder.
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513089/Revealed-Couple-held-women-slaves-30-years-leaders-Chinese-communist-sect-based-Brixton-bookshop.html

Revealed: Couple 'who held three women as slaves for 30 years' were leaders of Maoist communist sect based in Brixton bookshop



The couple accused of keeping three women as slaves for more than 30 years ran a communist sect worshipping Chinese leader Mao Zedong, it was revealed today.
The pair, of Indian and Tanzanian origin, are reportedly Aravindan Balakrishnan, 73, and his wife Chanda, 67, whose far-Left activities allegedly led to them being arrested and jailed in the 1970s.
They were held by police last Thursday after three alleged victims - a 30-year-old Briton called Rosie, a 57-year-old Irishwoman and a 69-year-old Malaysian - accused them of years of 'physical and mental abuse' and keeping them in servitude for decades.
It emerged today that the couple had helped organise a Maoist squat in a Brixton bookshop.
It was shut down in 1978 when police raided and arrested 14 people there, including the couple.
It is alleged the suspects, known as Comrade Bala and Comrade Chanda to other members, both later served a prison sentence after a conviction for assaulting a police officer involved in the raid.
Scotland Yard and the secret services are believed to have been aware of the couple's far-Left views.
Their main recruits were like-minded women, who they urged to do 'revolutionary work', and their group held lectures, put on films and printed leaflets encouraging the fall of capitalism in Britain, it is alleged.
Their squat - called the Mao Zedong Memorial Centre - also contained a library, and was set up, according to one member, when 'our beloved Chairman Mao passed away on September 9, 1976'.
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