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Globalisation my Arse 17 Dec 2013 09:14 #1

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I have swallowed the idea of globalisation, and in truth I am now kicking myself, because I know full well I should question the basics of every concept passed by me, and I usually do, but I took on globalisation without thinking, because I was so very incensed with what the politicians were saying they were going to do with it, I missed questioning whether it was happening at all.
Then the other day I was listening to a report about the economy in Taiwan.
Apparently Taiwan is not doing well at all. As China has expanded, trade agreements have been made which have trapped Taiwan out of markets, so much so that now the average wage is bellow that of the developed parts of China, and a lot of Taiwanese are now going to China to work.
People of my age group can remember when Made in Taiwan was on it seemed like every product, and we know that in the sixties 'made in China' meant made in Taiwan as there was no (or very little) trade with mainland China.
So what went wrong for Taiwanese industry, we know it is not wages, as the report on the BBC pointed out wages are now lower than mainland China. So we have to accept that the reason is as said in the report that new trade agreements with China have been used, by Mainland China to persuade the west to sever links with Taiwan.
So go down the shops when you can find where a product is made you will find now it is not made in Taiwan as it was in the Sixties, but China, or one of its satellites, like Vietnam. So we see what has happened is not an opening up of trade, but rather the countries which we trade with have changed.
So globalisation which is supposed to be the opening up of markets is not happening, all that is happening is a change of suppliers which is being used as an excuse to drive down wages in the home markets.
If it was different then the low cost of wages in Taiwan would mean there would be even more of their products on our shelves, which there are not.
So Globalisation is Bollox, access to what we buy is as governed by trade agreements as ever it was. The reason why you have no job or low wages is not because of market forces, but your government has created trade agreements to bring that about.
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Globalisation my Arse 17 Dec 2013 09:35 #2

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jonb wrote:
So globalisation which is supposed to be the opening up of markets is not happening, all that is happening is a change of suppliers which is being used as an excuse to drive down wages in the home markets.

So Globalisation is Bollox, access to what we buy is as governed by trade agreements as ever it was. The reason why you have no job or low wages is not because of market forces, but your government has created trade agreements to bring that about.

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^ I had first posted that interview here...

truth-zone.net/forum/finance-and-economics/60426-a-prophetic-inter-view-with-sir-james-gold-smith-in-1994.html

I think Jimmy G (billionaire at the time, deceased now) was against what has happened now, what was being planned then. He doesnt mince words in that interview, he says what will happen to economies and real wages.

Clearly other elite/billionaires wanted it, as the policies were rolled out.. id say his relatives, Rothschilds like Evelyn for one....they are nice and close to the Clintons, JG mentions clinton in the interview. And here is ER via NM expanding their services in China... in 1994.



Yes in summary the result of all this is that it cheapens labour or them, and will generally bring global wages down to a common denominator eventually.

And its all by design, to a tee.
1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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Globalisation my Arse 17 Dec 2013 11:29 #3

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Yes, but what I was trying to get at is that there is no 'Globalisation' its the same old trade agreements.
For instance Cheap Australian meat was stopped from coming into Britain and Europe, this has not changed, but we are supposed to have a global market, but it is sent now to China to help there, however when they start to get wealthy, it will be sent to another place to help their economy and the Chinese will suffer a drop in living standards, the same as has happened in Europe and Taiwan.
There is no 'Globalisation' which is supposed to be the opening up of markets, but rather using trade agreements to drive down wages.
All that has happened is that to cover the use of trade agreements being used detrimentally against the population, the word 'Globalisation' has been used to pretend that there is some sort of coming together.
Have we seen any globalisation, the west is trading with China again that is true, as they did in the thirties, but on the other hand we also see to facilitate that the west pulling out of other markets.That is not going global that is just changing suppliers.
I know what is happening to us many of us know about, so my argument is about what the term 'Globalisation' means. And in truth I have come to the conclusion it means nothing because things are still being run by trade agreements just as they always have been and always will be if TPTB have their way.

Now think about this, as TPTB get a large part of their control by being able to manipulate markets, would it not be worthwhile for them to distract attention from it by inventing a new term, when they change some of these agreements that does not directly identify what is going on, even better if it implies an inevitable coming together. Say like 'Globalisation' you can even have some arguing for and against it, and while that is going on nobody looks at the actual trade agreements.
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Globalisation my Arse 17 Dec 2013 11:57 #4

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Now I start to think about it why in a 'Global' economy about open markets. Is the importation of Australian Beef, New Zeeland Lamb, and Argentine Beef restricted, we are told because it would destroy British and European Farmers, when somehow Brazilian Chickens pumped full of antibiotics is good for us and does not affect our farmers.
No, there is no coming together of markets, no 'Globalisation' just the same old trade barriers, and restricting control of markets by the same bastards that have always had their grip on supply. But there is a new word which makes things more difficult to talk about the situation directly.
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Globalisation my Arse 18 Dec 2013 00:10 #5

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True and well said.
Globalisation is successful, however; not one, but two versions.
Globalisation of concentrated wealth and globalisation of mass poverty.
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Globalisation my Arse 18 Dec 2013 04:31 #6

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The top of the hierarchy sucks from the bottom...This is how civilization works.

You all are antisocialists.

You all take more power than you give from all and everything.

You all are autonomous absolute capitalist drones...within an absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state.

So called independent sovereign nation states are national absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprises or economic zones that have city states in them.

The bank of England along with the city of London has financed all the lines on the map of the world.

You all at the top of the global system take more than you give and become richer in power while those at the bottom give more than they take and become poorer in power.

Same thing inside your economic zone.

There are the net producers of power at the bottom...20% of the working population produces more power than they take from the other 80% of the working population that consumes more power than give to the net producers.

At a basic level all absolute capitalist hierarchical food powered make work enterprises have operated the same all over the world.

The bottom or slaves supply all the power to the top or master...The top take their cut and supply the middle or servants and what is left over is supplied to the slaves.

This is how city states globally from London back to Samaria 4000 BC.

Think of city states as cars...Your leaders are trained to drive them and you are trained to be passengers...but the owners know how to construct and run them.

That have all been absolute capitalistic for the entire recorded history of recorded history.

They inflate to maximum potential and then collapse to maximum potential.

the current global system began with the founding of the bank of England in 1694.

Prior to that the last one was based in Venice and collapsed in 1345 into the dark ages and then began to inflate back up and consolidate with the founding of the bank of England.

Venice rose out of the ashes of the collapse of the Roman empire.

Most of the cities in Europe have risen up and collapsed 3 times or more the past 2000 years.

The demand of all in the system is supplied by all in the system...

like chopping down trees faster than they regrow to supply inflation

eventually the demand for power to sustain inflation becomes greater than the supply of inflation.

The hierarchy then cannibalizes itself and collapses.

prior to globalization...it was called imperialism...That is negative.

So you feed imperialism through the just think positive ignore negative algorithm...and poof...negative imperialism...transforms into positive globalism.

The British empire becomes the commonwealth.

The USA was finaced into existence to take over from the UK which was too small to be the demand of the global system...That is what the great depression was...the collapse of the UK.

now the USA is too small to be the demand of the world...

The USA has been looted into the ground the past 200+ years to supply the demand of inflation to the world.

1944 to 2008 was a blow off.

WW2...The USA was the supply of 50% of the global oil supply...Japan and Germany and Italy could not have turned into war machines without the USA supplying massive amounts of resources.

London financed it all...and because the codes were all broken...staged managed it all as well.

you recruit and train and load up on ships...then send them to be torpedoed...

The whole time Germany and Japan and Italy thought they were winning...they were losing.

In war...there is generally one side that thinks they are going to win...and one side that knows they are going to win.

The USA collapsed 1929 to 1933...and FDR and Hitler were installed...and both countries began turning into war machines...Germany was manipulated into war first.

Japan was built up by London to liquidate the Chinese operation.

back then it was the UK and the british pound inflating china...

once japan liquated China it was 1941.

then someone thought it was a bright Idea to send the Japanese navy to attack the USA.

the attack was a failure...all the aircraft carriers were not at pearl harbor...so without those taken out...what was taken out was nothing.

But the USA then declared war on everyone and cut all trade and everything off the the axis powers nad they began to collapse.

The USA but this time has transformed into doomsday...and liquidated Japan and Germany...

the nteh new global system was implemented and the USA took over as the demand for supply of resources from the UK and the supply of money the global trade medium of exchange was changed from the British pound to the US Dollar...in 1944 at Bretton woods.

The chief architects or frontmen of the new trade system was Lord Keynes (A British subject) and Harry Dexter White (US citizen)...The FBI discovered he was a Soviet asset...But both were members of the Fabian society.

They were city of London assets.

Washington DC was set up as the government of the NWO...London is where the financial center of the NWO is...and the Vatican is the religion.

Hitler was installed...By the city of London.

Like Germany.

The president killed himself

the board of directors were hung

All the employees were laid off/fired and lost their jobs...they were just simple minded people trying to earn a living.

The invisible hand of the top livestock holders or investors...They dumped their German livestocks into the hands of the bag holders in 1941 and began buying US livestocks like mad.

They relaxed in Switzerland and enjoyed life...WW1 and WW2...Switzerland was neutral...That is where all the main branches of the banks were.

The war would have ben over before it began if the banks financing it were annihilated...

That is story of the wealth of nations derived from annihilations of soon to be bankrupted corporations with no way to pay the cost of reparations for past misallocations due to their mindless machinations trying to avoid economic damnations from absolute capitalizations to sustain instant gratifications.
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Globalisation my Arse 18 Dec 2013 04:48 #7

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Similar to this....of course the blocks at the bottom are constantly replenished...but over time the demand by the system for power becomes greater than the system can supply...and it collapses.

Rome sent out the Legions in the end in search of new resources...and they did not find any...and the whole empire collapsed back into itself or imploded...

The Denarius was the silver coin of Rome...it showed up in 211 BC and by the time of its last appearance around 270 AD it contained zero silver.

The Denarius was the Coin of Rome like the British Pound Stirling is of Britain and the US Dollar is of the USA.

And no one seems to know why coins debase.

Population of the the city of Rome area according the the Roman census.

294 B.C. 262,321

14 A.D. 4,937,000

In around 300 years the silver requirement to sustain the city of Rome area increased 18.8 times...

Demand outstripped supply...the trees ran out due to the reaching of the logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation.

Inflation...not too much...not too little...but always greater than previous or...you die.

like Rome did...well Rome collapsed...and then rose again and collapsed again by 1345... and now you all are at the tip top of the rise from 1345 until now...

The global system was based in Rome then Venice and then the rebuilt Londinium...or as you know it today...The city of London.



The British pound Stirling started out as a pound of Stirling silver over 400 years ago and is still the top currency in the world but has lost 99% of its value since then...It still the top currency...and London is still top of the world.

Top sucks from the bottom

Most of the top centers were set up by London and are all connected to London...It's a massive global yield extraction system that follows the rising and sun...that does not set on it.
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Globalisation my Arse 18 Dec 2013 05:31 #8

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And the computers have taken over...you can forget taking out any people.

all the people that are responsible that can be put on trial and hung...are dead...1971 when Bretton woods sucked the USA dry of silver and gold to supply the demand of the world...The new economy was implemented.

Since then you all have basically been transformed into digital electronic computerized game players...I created Hypertiger in 1987 and helped build the fantasy would you all are floating around in...It was not until 1995 that I began to realize the sales pitch was a lie...and in 1997 I began to look deep into the system to figure out what was actually wrong...

Nothing actually...The system is just doing what it is designed to do...expand to maximum potential and then collapse to maximum potential.

The USA along with the 1944 global trade system has been visibly collapsing since 2008.

The NWO is not rising up...Its dying...its a controlled collapse.

It's why you all are still alive...if what was being done behind the scenes was not being done...the system would hyperdeflate and kill you all.

The past 70 years has been the roaring 7 decades...The world is sitting atop the greatest credit bubble in the 600 year history of credit bubbles.

And it's been rolling over...Syria and Egypt and the so called arab spring...are due to the collapse of the USA which is the engine of Bretton woods...the deflation lead to the crushing of the populations which are basically mind controlled to rise up and run around burring the place down.

Then they get the blame for the collapse of the economy...and not the system itself.

The top employs you all to build it up until it reaches maximum potential and then they employ you all to demolish it.

The protests are all controlled and financed by the top...to keep you all busy...believing...you are mortals...you will fight until you are exhausted and die.

You rise up like a kicked ant hill...big deal...they spray the blood off the streets so the new puppets to rule you do not get blood on their boots.

The owners of the system are not inside the system...those inside the global system are employed to suffer the negative consequences...on the outside they get all the positive benefits...all the technology and everything the system produces.

The owners are master...the global system is servant and you all are slaves...but to you all in the system the system is master and you all are slaves to it with the people at the top the servants of the master system.

They all are just as mind controlled as all below and ignorant...following a program...just higher in the hierarchy.

But all expendable...there is no one in the master system more important than the master system...if to sustain the system requires the annihilation of anyone...no one is safe...the pope the queen the president of the USA...the people in behind them.

They just are less expendable the higher in the hierarchy they are.
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Globalisation my Arse 18 Dec 2013 20:48 #9

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Dear Mangled-moggy, I wonder if you could put in a little more detail, oh and with only double spacing don't you think the lines are a little close together, could you add a little more space. Also I am a little disappointed you only managed three posts in a row, I was expecting six or seven in bold caps, but I suppose it is as you say that you know best
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