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TOPIC: "Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues.

"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 13 Dec 2014 23:47 #1

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‘Systemic cover-up of torture-biggest scandal in UK’

There is evidence the UK elite and secret services were covering up their involvement in a CIA program which included torture and war crimes, and is the biggest scandal to come out of the 9/11 attacks, British journalist Tony Gosling told RT.

RT: Nick Clegg has suggested a case might be made for a full legal inquiry into British complicity in torture. How much of a case could there be considering the UK's involvement in extraordinary rendition after 9/11?

Tony Gosling: I don’t think the involvement is just alleged. We clearly have been involved- there is quite a lot of evidence for that. Also helping torture, we have the case of Binyam Mohamed who had some horrific torture done to him whilst our secret services MI5, in that case, were actually present in the room, and giving the torturers the so-called information which they were using and trying to interrogate during this torture. If I was to kidnap or torture somebody I would be prosecuted and put in jail for decades. What we are talking about here is systemic cover-ups, state terrorism or war crimes. It is probably fair to say that this is the biggest scandal that comes out of the 9/11 attacks.


Former Guantanamo Bay prisoner Binyam Mohamed (AFP Photo)

I think it should also force us to look at those attacks to see if we’ve got the response to them right and even understood what happened that day. It is quite clear that rendition certainly had been going on with British complicity. And I’d also point to the crash of the Gulfstream jet back in September 2007. One of the jets which should have been used for that rendition program has been spotted by plane spotters in various countries. The same Gulfstream jet crashed in Mexico and four tons of cocaine was found on that plane. So what we are looking at here is basically a criminal elite and a criminal misuse of the secret services. The reason why the Labor opposition here in Britain hasn’t had anything to say is because they were involved with David Miliband, the brother of the leader of the opposition here, the Foreign Secretary at that time complicit in covering up torture back when Labor were in power.

RT: Nick Clegg said he's confident UK agents are not using torture. How about you?

TG: Not at all, because there is no proper oversight about secret services here in Britain. Particularly I mean even Sir Francis Richards, the former head of GCHQ [Government Communications Headquarters], was saying that sir Malcolm Rifkind who is the chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee shouldn’t be doing that job because he is a senior conservative. What you need is someone at least to oppose to the present government… an opposition figure for example to oversee our secret services.

We have got no proper oversight of secret services at all here. So I’m not at all confident that this isn’t still going on. And when we’ve got a runaway criminality using our secret services, it seems, and no proper oversight by our elected officials .The elected officials seem to be very far down the food chain when it comes to this kind of criminal activity. The gains from it, you might wonder what they are, of course this is big geostrategic… important… that countries that are being taken over as the result of these secret service activities, for example, the massive secret service involvement in the takeover of Libya. And we are talking about oil; we are talking about enormous grabs of national natural resources.


British politician Malcolm Rifkind (AFP Photo)

RT: There will be no official held accountable after the US torture report. How realistic is it to assume if a UK probe went through that British officials would pay a price if it was proved they know about acts of, or aided in torture?

TG: Let’s look for example at the Chilcot inquiry here into the Iraq war. We had an extensive inquiry and lots of witnesses, but still the report was never produced because it is too embarrassing. I go back again to almost like the lack of the rule of law, seems to be even worse here in Britain than in the United States because we haven’t seen at least the Senate intelligence committee who produced this torture report. We haven’t seen anything on the equivalent lines here in Britain. Let’s not forget also that during the running of this inquiry and the report in the US it was proven that the CIA was spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So I’ve got little confidence that here in Britain will be a proper inquiry into this at all. I’m very concerned [that] there are many people involved on the periphery of, or even have been in the past, involved in torture who would like to blow the whistle and they are really afraid to. They are looking at the case of people like Chelsea Manning and Assange, the publisher, and wondering: “Can we blow the whistle?” I would suggest they probably need to get in touch with groups like the British Military Personnel, Veterans for Peace, so they can blow the whistle without ending up in the Tower of London. Essentially a kind of feudal system we seem to have here where many of these elites and the secret services particularly, rich and powerful, and doing so well out of the past 9/11 wars, they are above the law.
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"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 15 Dec 2014 14:56 #2

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Isn't it amazing to see how increasingly well, fast and easily the pieces of the puzzle fall in their places?
The esoterically sounding sentence "Everything is connected with everything" proves to be true after all.
Bloodline of the British "royals", all American presidents related to them, the "Throne of David", the "stone of scone",
the princes born by "golden" mothers circumcised by the chief rabbi and high priest the CoL .... and soooo much more ...
absolutely everything interconnected and tightly interwoven.
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"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 16 Dec 2014 13:45 #3

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Romania allowed the CIA to use a number of sites on its territory, a former head of the country’s intelligence confessed. He added that Bucharest’s bid to join NATO at the time prevented it from asking the US about the purposes of the sites.

The sites in question were called “transit centers” and Romania was unaware of whether they were used for detention, Ioan Talpes, who headed Romania’s Foreign Intelligence Service from 2000 to 2004, told the daily Adevarul in a video interview posted online on Saturday. 

"The Romanian side was not interested in what the Americans were doing, purposely to show them that they could trust us," said Talpes. 

AFP cited the interview, in which Talpes specifically stressed that at the time the decision was made, Bucharest was waiting to join NATO. 

The ex-spy chief said talks on “sites that the Romanians would place at the disposal of CIA representatives” began after September 11, 2001. 

"What is certain is that we were not aware of the presence of detainees," Talpes insisted in the interview. 

The US Senate report on torture, published earlier this week, revealed among other things that 119 people were captured and held in CIA detention sites hosted by other countries.

Although none of the countries were specifically named in the heavily redacted document, the listof those assumed to be mentioned includes Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Thailand and Afghanistan.
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"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 16 Dec 2014 13:51 #4

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Frozen to death

Gul Rahman, an alleged Afghan militant, was arrested six weeks after the 9/11 attacks and brought to a CIA-run prison north of Kabul, known as the Salt Pit (or COBALT, in this week’s report). Rahman’s stay wasn’t a long one, however, on account of him dying less than a month later, from what the Senate committee suspects to have been hypothermia.

Sometime that November, a low-level CIA officer at COBALT ordered that Rahman be stripped naked, except for a sweatshirt, and “shackled to the wall of his cell in a position that required the detainee to rest on the bare concrete floor,” according to the Senate committee. So soon after 9/11, though, CIA headquarters had yet to approve any interrogation tactics whatsoever at that time. Rahman’s name was kept secret for seven years after he died, and the bulk of what the world knows about his passing was largely unknown until this week. The junior officer who insisted Rahman spend the night naked on a cold, concrete floor, meanwhile, was recommended to receive a "cash award" of $2,500 for his "consistently superior work” just four months later, the Senate report acknowledges.

Rectal feeding

At least five CIA detainees were subjected to "rectal rehydration," or rectal feeding, the Senate report reads, in order to keep prisoners alive who allegedly otherwise refused to eat. Yet according to the committee’s findings, investigators failed to discover any “documented medical necessity” for doing as much. What the Senate did discover, however, is that the CIA’s chief of interrogations at the COBALT facility characterized the tactic as being among the methods used to exhibit the agents’ “total control” over detainees; another officer described the technique as being helpful to “clear a person's head,” and CIA medical staff even called it a means of behavioral control, according to the report.

According to another excerpt, Saudi detainee Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri was placed "in a forward-facing position (Trendlenberg) with head lower than torso,” then rectally “fed.” Another prison, the report reveals, was given a “lunch tray” of hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins, which was “pureed” and anally infused.

“[W]hat I infer is that you get a tube up as far as you can, then open the IV wide. No need to squeeze the bag — let gravity do the work,” one officer wrote of the process.

When the CIA responded to the Senate panel’s inquiries about the practice ahead of the report’s publication, the agency called rectal rehydration a "well acknowledged medical technique.” At least one detainee, however, was subsequently diagnosed with chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse after being rectally fed. The CIA also said that doing as much to a detainee was necessary in instances where prisoners became uncooperative, but the Senate panel found that records suggested such was done to inmates regardless of whether they were willing to cooperate.
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"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 16 Dec 2014 16:43 #5

So when Its IS/Taliban/AQ doing choppy choppy, mass slaughter etc etc its a false flag, when its the yanks doing a bit of anal probing and some torture its all legit :larf:

Takes a certain type of person to inflict torture, thats why the Japs were good at it, cold hearted :thumbup: :wissl: :larf:
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"Allied forces" exposed for mass cover up of torture and war crimes post 9/11 psyop. Their World War behaviour continues. 16 Dec 2014 22:21 #6

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Dick Cheney, the former US vice-president who was at the forefront of the post-9/11 push towards aggressive interrogation techniques since denounced as torture, has defended the use of “rectal feeding” of terror suspects, claiming it was done for “medical reasons”.

In a combative interview with NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, Cheney was unrepentant about the so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” that were deployed under his watch. He swatted away evidence contained in the Senate intelligence committee report into the CIA programme that a suspect later found to be innocent froze to death having been shackled naked to a cell wall, and that detainees were rectally infused with food, refusing to accept a torture definition for either example.
What absolute rubbish. The digestive process starts in the stomach goes through the 30 feet of small intestine then into the large intestine.

There's no way that "procedure" would see nutrition enter the body.

When the elderly or infirm can't eat through the mouth they're fed through an intravenous drip. They don't have pureed food forced into their arse.
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