TOPIC: Bin Laden family deaths in private Jet crash.

Members of the bin Laden family were among four people killed when a private jet crashed on approach to Blackbushe Airport in Hampshire, according to the Saudi Ambassador to Britain.

Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf Al Saud offered his condolences to the bin Laden family in a message posted on the Saudi Embassy's official Twitter account.

It read: "His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz, the ambassador of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques to the United Kingdom, offered his condolences to the sons of the late Mohammed bin Laden and their relations for the grave incident of the crash of the plane carrying members of the family at Blackbushe airport."

He did not confirm the identity of the victims. Saudi media reports have suggested the victims were the stepmother and sister of former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who was shot dead by US forces in Pakistan in 2011.

The bin Laden family is a prominent Saudi Arabian clan with global business interests.

The Saudi Embassy said it is working with British authorities to investigate the incident and to ensure the handover of the bodies for funerals and burials in Saudi Arabia.

Police have confirmed that three passengers and the pilot died in the crash, which occurred around 3pm on Friday.

The plane had flown to the UK from Milan in Italy. A joint investigation with the Air Accidents and Investigation (AAIB) Brand is under way.

Sky News footage shows the aftermath of the crash , with debris visible among dozens of damaged cars.

Andrew Thomas, who was paying for a car at the time of the crash, said it was an "aggressive fire" and there was "explosion after explosion".

He said: "I could see one of the wings sticking up and it was in flames and four, five cars around it were all in flames.

"That soon spread. After 10 or 12 minutes the fire brigade got there and managed to get on top of it quickly, which was fortunate because at one stage it felt like the fire was going to rip across the whole car park."

The A30, which backs on to the airport, was closed following the incident and motorists have been asked to avoid the area.

Robert Belcher, a local aviation enthusiast, said he was driving home when he saw black smoke billowing from the site.

"I could see the plume of smoke waving from about five miles away and was hoping it was just a car fire rather than an aircraft accident."

He added: "Apparently the aircraft was landing and just didn't stop. At the end of the runway there is a car park because the airport is used for car auctions and it's gone into there
An airport spokesman said: "Blackbushe Airport confirmed that a Phenom 300 Jet with four persons on board crashed near the end of the runway around 3.09pm while attempting to make a landing."

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The £7million jet which crashed killing three members of Osama Bin Laden's family climbed 500 feet as it was coming into land, prompting the pilot to dive the aircraft at high speed towards the tarmac.

Flight data captured by AvGen Limited showed that as the aircraft approached the airfield it was flying at 1,250 feet, but as it turned around the circuit before landing, it increased altitude to 1,750 feet - at a critical time in the flight when it should have been losing height.

As the pilot, Mazen Al Doaja, steered the aircraft around towards the runway, he pushed the jet into a steep dive of 3,000 feet per minute.

The data, which was captured using specialist flight monitoring software called ADS-B, showed that the aircraft was flying in an unusual pattern as it prepared to land.

As the aircraft passed the threshold of the runway, it was at 75 feet, which was normal, but it was still flying at 149kts - some 30kts more than normal - as it prepared to touch down.

Dave Reid, managing director of AvGen Ltd told MailOnline: 'We monitor aircraft using Heathrow Airport, but after the accident in Blackbushe, we decided to see if we had data from the Phenom 300. The data is broadcast by commercial aircraft, executive jets and some private aircraft.'

The information broadcast include the aircraft's identity, altitude, location, speed, heading, and rate of climb or descent.

'The aircraft increased in altitude by 500 feet at a time when it should have been descending. I am sure that this is something that the AAIB will be looking at in due course.'

According the aircraft's manufacturers, Embraer, the Phenom 300 requires a minimum length of 799 metres to land at sea level and in dry conditions.

The runway at Blackbushe is 1,059 metres long, giving the pilot only 250 metres of extra space to land.

Mr Reid added: 'As he passed the threshold of the runway, he was at 75 feet and travelling at 149kts. I am not a pilot, I am an engineer, so I can not comment on whether he was going too fast.'

The data captured by AvGen does not prove whether the aircraft touched the runway before it ended exploding into the neighbouring car auction site.

Aviation sources said the aircraft was flying an 'unstabilised approach' and should have aborted the landing far earlier and 'gone around' for a second attempt.

According to one popular aviation forum, the pilot was flying 'high and fast' and did not have enough runway to stop safely.

The aircraft cleared the end of the runway, but did not have enough speed to increase altitude sufficiently.

Experts at the Air Accident Investigation Board will look for detailed flight data records contained within the aircraft's black boxes.

This data may provide a clue as to why the aircraft increased its altitude less than a minute before it was due to land. It will also show at what stage the pilot decided against continuing with the landing.

The actual crash site itself will provide vital information for air crash investigators.

Aviation sources have suggested that the pilot, seeing the end of the runway rapidly approaching, pulled back on his controls to raise the nose and gain height and open the throttles to increase power. However, jet engines take a period of time to 'spool up' and with a lack of thrust, the aircraft stalled and 'pancaked' into the adjacent car park.

Hampshire police confirmed that the dead terrorist's stepmother Rajaa Hashim, his sister, Sana bin Laden, and his brother-in-law, Zuhair Hashim, were all killed in the crash along with their pilot. .

A police spokesman said: 'We do believe three of the deceased to be the mother, sister and brother-in-law of the owner of the aircraft, all of whom are from the Bin Laden family, but formal post-mortem examinations are ongoing.

'They were Saudi Arabian nationals and visiting the UK on vacation.'

The Saudi ambassador to the UK offered his condolences to the Bin Laden family, who own a major construction company in Saudi Arabia.

The statement said: 'His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf Al Saud ... has paid his condolences to the family and relatives of Mohammed bin Laden at Blackbushe Airport in Britain for the great loss they have suffered as a result of the crash of the plane that was carrying the family.'

A further statement said the embassy would work with the British authorities to ensure a quick repatriation of the bodies for burial.

The family's pilot has now been named as Mazen Al Doaja and his family have paid tribute, saying they are in shock over his death

The plane had flown in from Malpensa Airport in Milan to the airfield.

This is the third time bin Laden’s extended family had fallen victim to a plane crash.
On September 13, 1967, Mohammed bin Laden, Osama’s father, was killed when his Beechcraft 18 crashed on a landing strip near Usran in Saudi Arabia, while he was on his way to marry his 23rd wife.
The tail-fin number HZ-IBN was the same as that on the Embraer which crashed in Hampshire and it was reported that the registration was retained by the bin Laden family after Mohammed’s death.
In 1988 Salem bin Laden, the half-brother of Osama, who was educated at Millfield School, in Somerset, died when his aircraft drifted into high-voltage power lines in San Antonio, Texas.
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A plane crash that killed three members of the bin Laden family "doesn't make sense", according to a pilot who regularly flies into Blackbushe Airport.

Speaking to Sky News, Simon Moores explained how the Phenom 300 jet, which came down over a car auction site in Hampshire on Friday, "has every conceivable state-of-the-art safety function you can possibly imagine".

He explained how the plane takes approximately 750m to 800m to land - but as Blackbushe's runway is 1,300m, there should have been no reason for the aircraft to overshoot as it arrived from Milan's Malpensa Airport.

Raising questions as to how the crash could have happened, Mr Moores asked: "Why, if (the pilot) thought his angle was completely wrong - which is what happened in this case - didn't he power up the engines, simply go round, and try again?"
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Andrew Thomas, who was at a car auction sales center based at the airport, told the BBC that "the plane nosedived into the cars and exploded on impact." He said he saw the plane and several cars in flames.

"There was a loud bang and my son quickly came into the auction hall saying a plane had gone down," Joe Ramos told local station Eagle Radio. "We quickly went back out only to see a private jet had gone over the fence of the airport as it was trying to take off, but in fact it had clipped the fence, spun around and crashed into the cars."
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Will they kill them 3 times in 10 years too?