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Beastality legal in Canada 10 Jun 2016 02:07 #1

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I predicted some time ago on this forum, Bestiality would be the next addition to LBGT acronym. Making it, LBGTB ( the last "B" meaning bestiality'

Canada has ruled, sex with animals is OK as long as it does not involve penetration. The decision involved a man who smeared peanut butter on his step daughters vagina and had dogs lick it off. The courts ruled that was OK.

Now it's only a matter of time before bestiality becomes normal behavior.

Way to go Canada! :thumbup:

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What brand of peanut butter was it?
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The parliamentarians who wrote the Canada’s bestiality law understood the word to imply the physical penetration of an animal, and it is not the role of jurists to broaden the definition to include other acts, the country’s top court ruled Thursday.

In a decision that was supported by all but one of seven justices, the Supreme Court upheld the acquittal of a British Columbia man who was charged with bestiality after compelling the family dog to sexually abuse his 16-year-old stepdaughter.

Lawyers for the man, who was also convicted on 13 counts of sexually molesting his two stepdaughters over a 10-year period, argued that the 1954 law prohibiting bestiality had a specific meaning: vaginal or anal penetration of an animal. The Supreme Court justices agreed, saying it would be inappropriate for courts to expand that definition beyond what was intended by the politicians who drafted the legislation.

“Penetration has always been understood to be an essential element of bestiality,” Justice Thomas Cromwell wrote on behalf of the majority. “Parliament adopted that term without adding a definition of it, and the legislative history and evolution of the relevant provisions show no intent to depart from the well-understood legal meaning of the term.”

Courts should not broaden the scope of liability for the crime through common law, Judge Cromwell wrote. “Any expansion of criminal liability for this offence is within Parliament’s exclusive domain.”

The man from Prince George, who cannot be identified, was sentenced to 16 years for all the offences upon which he was convicted, including two related to the bestiality count. The judge in that case decided that bestiality in the Criminal Code meant touching between a person and an animal for sexual purposes, and penetration was not required.

In the British Columbia case, the man used peanut butter to compel the dog to perform a sexual act with his stepdaughter while he used a videocamera to record the incident.

But the man’s bestiality conviction was overturned by the B.C. Court of Appeal which concluded that penetration was an essential element of bestiality. So lawyers for the province took the case to the Supreme Court.

An animal rights group called Animal Justice appeared before the Supreme Court as an intervenor in the case when it was heard last fall. Lawyers for the group said modern societal morals include protecting vulnerable beings from sexual conduct to which they cannot consent.

Supreme Court Justice Rosalie Abella agreed with that argument.

“I do not see the absence of a requirement of penetration as broadening the scope of bestiality,” she wrote in her dissenting opinion. “I see it more as a reflection of Parliament’s common sense assumption that, since penetration is physically impossible with most animals and for half the population, requiring it as an element of the offence eliminates from censure most physically exploitative conduct with animals.”

But the majority were unconvinced.

“When Parliament uses a term with a legal meaning, it generally intends the term to be given that meaning,” they said in their decision. “In this case, the term bestiality did have a clear legal meaning when Parliament used that term without further definition in the English version of the 1955 Criminal Code. Bestiality meant buggery with an animal and required penetration.”

Camille Labchuk, a lawyer for who is also the executive director of Animal Justice, said the Supreme Court decision is “a wakeup call” that criminal laws protecting animals in Canada are severely out of date.

“As of today, Canadian law gives animal abusers a licence to use animals for their own sexual gratification,” said Ms. Labchuk. “The Supreme Court has essentially thrown the ball into Parliament’s court and we’re calling on Parliament to step in immediately to fix our outdated laws and protect vulnerable animals from sexual exploitation.”

Ms. Labchuk urged the government to support a private member’s bill introduced in Parliament earlier this year by Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith which outlaws a number of acts related to the killing or harming of animals and broadens the definition of bestiality. Although the bill essentially mirrors legislation that was introduced twice by previous Liberal governments but did not get passed into law, Ms. Labchuk said the current Liberal government is not supporting it.

The government has been swayed by hunting groups and fishing groups that the bill would shut down all industries that rely animal use, said Ms. Labchuck, who dismissed that notion as “preposterous.”

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould said her concern is that Mr. Erskine-Smith’s bill proposes significant amendments to the criminal code. “This is an important issue that deserves careful study,” Ms. Wilson-Raybould said. “Any amendments to these provisions should be informed by broad consultations with Canadians.”


What The Hell????? :noway: :iitm: :mad: :mad: :mad: So a man, a sexual molester, a pervert, is allowed to compel the family dog to sexually molest his step-daughter AND record it and not be charged for that?? the dog did not sexually molest his step-daughter, the pervert did by exploiting the dog and the step-daughter.

Are they all flipping nuts? bunch of degenerate perverts on the freemasonic supreme court of Canada :mad: let's just legally open the floodgates for all the perverts to abuse the vulnerable, their children and other peoples children and vulnerable youth and have them legally be sexually molested by exploiting animals who have no choice in the matter. :thdown: :thdown:

Let alone the multi-billion dollar porn industry who already push bestiality and have no problem with supplying for huge demands of sick degenerates who actually WANT to see animals having sex with people, and the depraved adults who get off on abusing children, young people and animals for their own perverse gratifications or enjoy watching it.

This is something they don't mention do they... animals being made to penetrate people..... rampant in the porn industry and one of the sick delights of the most twisted when it comes to physical abusers and sexual molesters.

Would it have been illegal if the sexually abused girl had been penetrated by the family dog while being filmed/photograghed? If it is illegal why don't authorities crack down on it or give a shite about it being rampant in the dark as well as open crevasses of the internet and porn sites. :mad:

Canada’s Ridiculous Ruling That Oral Sex with Animals Is Legal Shows Need for New Bestiality Laws

A man, known in the judgment as D.L.W., tried to make his teenage stepdaughter have sex with the family dog, but that proved impossible, so he spread peanut butter on her vagina and made the dog lick it off while he photographed it. Later, he asked her to do it again so he could make a video.

The ruling goes into the history of the crime of bestiality which was once categorized as "buggery" and/or "sodomy" but bottom line, in all cases, someone had to be penetrating the animal or vice versa.

The dissenting judge, Justice Rosalie Abella, who thought nightmare stepdad's appeal should be dismissed, argued it's common sense to assume that Parliament intended to protect children and animals from abuse, including that which doesn't involve penetration.

"Parliament must have intended protection for children from witnessing or being forced to participate in any sexual activity with animals," she wrote.

"Since penetration is physically impossible with most animals and for half the population, requiring it as an element of the offence eliminates from censure most sexually exploitative conduct with animals."


One dissenting judge. :facepalm: None of them think of the sexually abused and exploited girl in this case, her now convicted sex molester step-father convicted on 13 counts over a 10 year period who tried to force her to have sex with the family dog. That didn't work so he does the next disgusting thing with the peanut butter while taking footage of it but hey THAT'S ALL OKAY, NOTHING WRONG HERE... ACCORDING TO THE PERVERTS ON THE MASONIC SUPREME COURT OF CANADA.

And how the hell would a broadened bestiality law effect hunting and fishing groups. :noway:
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Beastality legal in Canada 10 Jun 2016 17:51 #4

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Beastality legal in Canada 10 Jun 2016 18:53 #5

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You see plenty of cases of drug dealers having everything they own consfiscated by the state, but when was the last time you heard of a child abuse network getting the same treatment?
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Beastality legal in Canada 11 Jun 2016 14:38 #6

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I wonder how many Jews are senior judges in Canada?
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Beastality legal in Canada 11 Jun 2016 14:42 #7

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Bestiality was also legal in Washington State until the incredibly sickening and disturbing case of The Man From Emunclaw.

A bunch of men bought stallions for the sole purpose of being sodomised by them. One was dumped at a hospital with a perforated colon and died.
.The Strange, Sad Story of the Man Named Mr. Hands Who Died from Having Sex with a Horse
Zach Sokol
By Zach Sokol

July 16, 2015

A horse in Enumclaw, Washington. All photos by Kelly O

"The only intimacy that separates the proud horse owner from the perverse horse fucker is the act of sex." –Charles Mudede

This article contains a bunch of disturbing details about men having sex with horses.

You can find anything on the internet, even if you don't want to. The video "Mr. Hands" is testament to that—the gruesome 30-second video that was circulating on the grimmer corners of the internet in the mid 2000s shows a man willingly submitting himself to the romantic attentions of a horse. I've seen it. Please don't go looking for it.

Ten years ago this month, a resident of Enumclaw, Washington, named Kenneth Pinyan was pronounced dead due to "acute peritonitis [that resulted from the] perforation of the sigmoid colon during anal intercourse with a horse." A surveillance camera captured the license plate of the car that dropped the man off at the hospital after his horrific erotic encounter, leading detectives to 54-year-old James Michael Tait, who lived next to a 39-acre farm. At the man's trailer, the police confiscated the recording of Pinyan, or "Mr. Hands" as his zoophile friends called him, being fucked by a horse they referred to as "Big Dick."

At the time, bestiality was legal in Washington, and since there was no evidence of the men abusing the animals, Tait was only charged with trespassing. The scandal was so salacious, however, that Washington State made bestiality a Class C felony—punishable by up to five years behind bars and a $10,000 fine—shortly after Pinyan's death, with the state senate voting unanimously for the bill.

The accident, as well as the video documenting it, became national news and a viral sensation that bubbled out of creepy 4chan boards, seeping into the consciousness of internet users everywhere. Not only did the original Seattle Times report of the death become the publication's most-read online article that year, but the story of Mr. Hands and the group of male zoophiliacs who hung out together, got drunk, and lined up to get plowed by horses was the subject of a 2007 documentary called Zoo, which later went to Sundance and Cannes.

Charles Mudede was one of the writers of the nonfiction film, and he also reported on the accident itself for an excellent investigative piece published in Seattle alt weekly The Stranger in 2006. Zoo is a startlingly poignant film that portrays the "zoos" as tragic and lonely human beings rather than animal-abusing perverts. I reached out to Mudede to discuss the legacy of this wholly bizarre moment in American history ten years after it happened.

The gates outside the farm in Enumclaw where Mr. Hands suffered the injury that led to his death

VICE: Were you aware that it was the ten-year anniversary of Mr. Hands's death the other day?
Charles Mudede: Yes, I'm actually in Enumclaw, Washington, right now to take photos and see if anything interesting is going on. The town got rid of the sign on the farm where it happened—that was the only act of erasure that I noticed. No one wants to talk about what happened, though.

Once the law changed, and bestiality was made illegal in Washington, everyone sort of said, "It's over and it will never happen again. And if it does happen again, we'll know what to do." No one has been arrested for bestiality in Washington since, to my knowledge.

Once the law came into effect, the whole Washington community of zoophiliacs moved to states where it was legal to do what they wanted to do. They were absolutely terrified of going to jail. When I talked to them, they weren't breaking the law, and they didn't want to. That's part of the reason this was never a for-profit animal prostitution ring type of thing. After James Michael Tait, the ringleader, was caught, he moved to Tennessee because there are no laws about bestiality there [Tait was arrested and charged with animal cruelty in Tennessee in 2009]. They don't want to be thought of like child pornographers or child molesters. They don't want to be treated like those criminals.

Everyone in Enumclaw is very close to horses. It's a quiet, rural suburb with a view of the mountains. Everyone is a horse person, and as you know, the town included all types of horse worship. It was a place where you could fuck horses, and no one could tell. The line was difficult to differentiate between passion and zoophilia unless you were caught. If Pinyan didn't die, those guys he hung out with would still be fucking horses today and no one would have suspected anything.

It was a paradise for a horse fucker. I'm sure they were so angry because they must have thought, We had it so good!

While making the documentary Zoo, did you look for other real zoo communities, either in Washington or elsewhere?
We did look for them, but we couldn't find any. The one thing this group had was someone who was a really good organizer. Tait really went out of his way to cultivate the community. He was very selective about who could join and did the whole territorial thing. If you don't have that, it will fall apart.

Other zoos are probably more individual. They were afraid that if they were outed, they'd lose everything—which is exactly what would happen. So unless you had an extremely organized leader, you likely wouldn't be sharing this private thing with other people. If you can play it safe, animals don't talk. Zoos keep it quiet.

How do you think Mr. Hands's death affected the zoophilia community on a larger scale?
It disrupted them—they lost a lot by his death. If you have a moral problem with horse fucking, you might not find this to be a cool way to look at things, but I think the truth is that they lost a lot: stability, a weekend vacation getaway place, something to look forward to. They lost a community. When the death happened, they were exposed. They were looked at, they were investigated. It was a major disruption!

The zoophilia community is largely an internet-based thing. There wouldn't be a community without the internet. If you were a zoo, you couldn't go to something like a gay bar. You had to go to the internet. For the first time in the history of mankind, zoos could get find each other and get together as groups. That was new! That was absolutely unprecedented.

When I was talking to the zoos in Washington, I got an impression that they thought Mr. Hands was a bit of a weakling: He was an intellectual, he worked for Boeing as an engineer. They could take a horse-fucking and not have to go to the hospital. He was effete and new to it. They thought he ruined it. If he wasn't so self-destructive, they'd still be fucking horses on weekends. Dumping him at the hospital was really dumping him into the media and mainstream, and also ending the thing they had going.

For more on sexual fetishes, watch our doc on people turned on by quicksand:

How exactly did they train the horses to fuck them?
They would literally bend over and wait for the horse to fuck them. They'd also put some type of scent on themselves—the pheromone people use to get horses to breed.

Did they ever fuck the horses?
No, that wasn't their school. There are all different sorts of flavors of zoos. Their thing was about getting fucked in the ass. There were others who liked that, but that was not their circle. They wanted the studs and the bulls. Never cows. There was this element of cocks, big cocks. They never talked about pussies.

If my memory stands correct, these men were also fucking each other. After they got fucked by a horse, they'd play games with each other and their stretched assholes.

Did they pick specific horses from the farm, or were they down to be fucked by any horse?
They had preferences! They would figure out which horse was too strong, which had the biggest cock, which was the quickest fuck. It was like going to a horse auction.

They were really into the cows, too. One of the guys literally said he planned on eating one of the bulls after it fucked him. I found that to be very problematic. Getting fucked by something you were going to eat? He was super darkly into zoophilia in a way that was unlike the others.

A lot of these guys wanted to see themselves as massive animal fuckers—guys who could take on huge things. They would even talk about fucking dolphins, which supposedly have big cocks.

[The sex writer and then Stranger editor-in-chief] Dan Savage and I would talk about if it was a fetish for animals, or a fetish for massive cocks. That question was there the whole time we were working on Zoo and I never found out the answer. This could undermine their claims of being zoo. I must admit it was on my mind, but we didn't explore these questions enough. We were mostly focused on Mr. Hands's actual death, and the community and culture of zoos he was involved with at the time. To me, it's clearer today that these guys had this worship of cock that may have had nothing to do with horses.

Based on your research, do you think zoophilia a fetish, or is it more of a lifestyle and sexual identity?
The horse that killed Mr. Hands was nicknamed "Big Dick," right? It wasn't called "Nice Horse," or "Beautiful."

Coyote, the narrator of our doc, was the real deal. He was a real zoo. He had this thing with dogs and other animals. He was making love to them, not just fucking them. That was his thing. It was actual passion and love for animals. The other guys, who were into big dicks, could have just had intense fetishes.

I don't think Mr. Hands was actually a zoophiliac. I think he was just into fetishes. He was into extreme things and hurting his body. We didn't get into this in the film, but he was involved in a motorcycle accident. He lost a lot of his ability to sense things and had bad neural damage. People in this zoophilia community thought that putting the horse cock in his ass was an effort to feel things again—getting into extreme stuff was a way to regain neural sensation. He was into fisting, he was into big dildos, he was into pushing things sexually.

I don't think Mr. Hands was actually in love with horses. While researching, I went to the house Mr. Hands was building in Washington. He was constructing a barn and he wanted to live with a horse. Maybe he was developing feelings for the animal, but maybe not. There might have been animal love, but when you really got down to it, they were just into horse cock.

Zoophilia is not a cohesive thing. There's a main road to it, but there are lots of other alleys.

Did you stay in touch with any of the men you interviewed in the film?
They loved [Zoo director] Robinson Devor and thought he was a real ally. They still email him and keep in contact. He was much more sensitive than I was. I met them and connected them to Rob, [but] he would listen to them and not laugh.

Have you noticed any attitude shifts about zoophilia since the media first covered Mr. Hands? Is it just as much of a taboo now as it was then?
It's absolutely as much of a taboo as it was ten years ago. No one wants to think about it or talk about it.... Zoophilia is so out there in terms of sexuality that it's very hard to broach, and there isn't support for it from other minority groups or sexual communities. There's already enough trouble about people deciding if we should keep doing tests on chimps, but to talk about if we should be allowed to fuck them, too?
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Beastality legal in Canada 11 Jun 2016 14:49 #8

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I predicted some time ago on this forum, Bestiality would be the next addition to LBGT acronym. Making it, LBGTB ( the last "B" meaning bestiality'

Canada has ruled, sex with animals is OK as long as it does not involve penetration. The decision involved a man who smeared peanut butter on his step daughters vagina and had dogs lick it off. The courts ruled that was OK.

Now it's only a matter of time before bestiality becomes normal behavior.

Way to go Canada! :thumbup:


Activists don't seem to give a shit about changing the laws to prevent further sickening and degrading abuse of children - like here - but rather to protect animals!


Way to go Canada!
Way to go cultural Marxism!
Way to go LGBBQ!
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