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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 08 Nov 2016 22:56 #1

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Sad news -

Hungary's parliament has rejected an attempt by Prime Minister Viktor Orban to block the settlement of refugees.

His ruling Fidesz party failed to attract the two opposition votes necessary for a two-thirds majority in parliament.

The bill had sought to rebuff an EU-set quota scheme that would relocate 1,294 refugees in Hungary.

It was the latest move in Mr Orban's anti-EU and anti-migrant drive, say correspondents.

But he was thwarted by the anti-immigration Jobbik party, which normally would have been viewed as a natural supporter of the bill but abstained.

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Jobbik had demanded Mr Orban scrap a cash-for-residency bond scheme allowing wealthy foreigners to buy special state bonds for €300,000 ($330,000) giving them the right to live in Hungary.

Jobbik argued the immigration ban should apply to all foreigners.

Mr Orban refused, calling the move "blackmail".
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Image caption Hungary sealed its borders with Serbia and Croatia after it became a transit country last year

Mr Orban called the vote in parliament after a divisive referendum on 2 October, again over the EU's 2015 resettlement scheme to relocate 160,000 refugees across the bloc.

Of those who voted, 98% - or 3.3m voters - supported Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban's call to block the quotas. But only 40.4% of voters cast valid ballots, short of the required 50% threshold.

Nevertheless, he declared victory and immediately called the constitutional vote.
Another blow for Orban - Nick Thorpe, BBC News, Budapest

This is the second blow in a month for Viktor Orban, following the failure of his 2 October referendum.

Now he can be expected to turn his guns on the Jobbik party for their "treachery" for refusing to support the constitutional amendment.
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Image caption Members of Jobbik - the radical-right challengers to Mr Orban's Fidesz party - held aloft a banner during the vote, reading: "The traitor is the one who allows terrorists into the country for money"

Jobbik were prepared in advance for that accusation.

As the results of the amendment vote were announced, Jobbik deputies unrolled a banner with the words: "The traitor is the one who allows terrorists into the country for money." According to Hungarian reports, a Saudi citizen who once had business contacts with Osama Bin Laden and who is also on an FBI wanted list, bought residency in Hungary under the bond scheme.

Hungary has already refused to accept 1,294 asylum seekers requested by the European Commission. It has taken the Commission to the European Court of Justice over the case, with a verdict expected next year.

If Hungary loses, it will have no choice but to accept the 1,294. If the constitutional amendment had passed now, it would have blocked any future attempts by the EU to impose quotas on Hungary.

Jobbik has been jockeying with the Socialists for position as Hungary's second biggest party.

Mr Orban's defeat in Tuesday's vote is an unusual blow for a man whose party won a two-thirds majority in parliament when he first came to power in 2010 and has since enacted six constitutional amendments.

The setback is likely to herald a period of increasing rivalry between his Fidesz party and Jobbik.
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Image caption A referendum on blocking the EU quota took place on 2 October - but turnout failed to meet the required level

Immigration is a key battleground, and the constitutional vote was a chance for Jobbik to flex its muscles, correspondents say.

"We are ready to vote for the amendment of the constitution but we are not ready for partial solutions," Jobbik leader Gabor Vona said in October. "We can only support a solution which creates Hungary's real security."

Thousands of non-EU citizens - many from the Middle East, China and the former Soviet Union - have bought residency in Hungary with the "foreigner bonds".

Jobbik says more people have come into the country under that scheme than would have come under the EU migrant quota.

But it says it remains willing to support Fidesz's constitutional amendment if it backs down and scraps the scheme.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 08 Nov 2016 23:06 #2

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Not good.


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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 12 Nov 2016 22:02 #3

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Crazy... all a bunch of fucking traitors to their own nation and people.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 12 Nov 2016 23:22 #4

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Those Jobbiks, representing the real national socialism are just stupid.

Foreigners with money don't cause problems, don't interfere with Hungarian culture and only help the Hungarian economy.

The "beauty" of envious socialism (pardon the tautology) in full effect.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 00:47 #5

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^ You have no idea what National Socialism was all about, as it is not comparible with socialism.

Besides that, you are a traitor as well by making apologies for all those third worlders and arabs to enter Europe and wreck havoc economically and socially, you disgusting leftist.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 01:07 #6

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The socialist envy is a core theme of nazism too
Displayed by Jobbik, your idiot mates from Hungary.

I am not a leftist. Your leftism is clear in the shapability you in your wishful thinking show.

Leftists want a big state, just like you. I want no state, pity for you. And I don't hate people who actually made something of their lives and gained some money.

As so often explained; one cannot blame the migrants for anything (except the few bad apples that are always there for their individual bad behaviour); the war was waged upon them by the statists (that you support) and they have the invitation signed by Angela Kalergi in their pockets.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 01:39 #7

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It's only a matter of time. The judeo-communist control matrix is fucked. They are pushing nation after nation to the breaking point as they try to maintain their Soviet Union styled oppression of thought and opposition whilst maintaining their destructive lie of multi-culturalism.

Brexit showed white England is at breaking point yet the control matrix is trying to block leaving the EU by a Jewish laden Supreme Court decision process. Some MPs are now pushing for a new referendum. Seriously? Remain failed. The matrix are such sore losers.

Trump shows that the US is at breaking point. There is no wonder why gun ownership increased so much under Obama. He was a communist poof that the masses saw through and their stupid calls for gun control saw people buy more. The idiocy of communists.

The Hungarian process is being stymied. That population will be brought to break.

Germany is coming close to breaking point as is France.

The swedes are extremely pissed off with the destruction of their nation that even the green fucktards in control - for now - are having to get through their triggering and actually expel Muslims

The White world is pissed off. Really pissed off and the control matrix is grasping at straws to keep a lid on it
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 01:53 #8

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Gaia wrote:
The socialist envy is a core theme of nazism too
Displayed by Jobbik, your idiot mates from Hungary.

I am not a leftist. Your leftism is clear in the shapability you in your wishful thinking show.

Leftists want a big state, just like you. I want no state, pity for you. And I don't hate people who actually made something of their lives and gained some money.

As so often explained; one cannot blame the migrants for anything (except the few bad apples that are always there for their individual bad behaviour); the war was waged upon them by the statists (that you support) and they have the invitation signed by Angela Kalergi in their pockets.

You read "National Socialism" so with that drugs-ridden brain of yours you think "Hey! There's the word socialism in there! So it must be socialism!"... while not taking a minute of time to actually look into what NS was really all about except for Holohoax stories.

They adopted the term Socialism into NS to pull the leftist voters into the movement, and took a few of the GOOD things out of Socialism into their program. But it was in no-way comparable to communism. National Socialism wasn't left, neither right.. it was the "third option".

You say "I want no state"... LOL. Yeah, we all know your an idiotic "anarchist" who thinks it's all good when there's no government... however, "anarchism" is only a heart-beat away from communism as it's an ideology where a lot of crazy leftists are at. Anarchy won't EVER work as the people living under anarchism are easily conquered by a people who in fact have got strong leadership and guidelines.

But hey, you are a jew and jews are naturally born leftists, so you can't help it either.

You call me a leftist, while you are all for the SJW lunacy, political correctness and multicultural deception. Now who makes that the real leftist here you think? :yup:
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 02:17 #9

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The one with a drug-rotten brain proves to be you:
- anarchism is directly opposite to communism
- the national socialists indeed adopted a lot of socialist, so leftist, idiocy; enormous propaganda, attacks against any dissenting voices (just like the leftsts who fire Trump or anti-Chávez voters), the fucking Hitler Jugend as their sick child indoctrination scheme, and more shapability you "Hey, propaganda is not always bad!1!1!!!1!??" clown around


On top of that the racial laws taken from the zionists, the deals with the zionists and the formation of many jews in the highest ranks of the NSDAP and your whole nazi pose becomes a fucking joke that you with your limited brain capacity will never understand.

SJW = leftism = nazism; "we, the State, decide what's good for you, sheeple"

The failures of Onkel Dolfy must hurt. 61 cities not defended because, surprise surprise, the RAF flew at night (who could have imagined that, what an amazingly difficult strategy to cope with! For fucking 61 times in a row!), Dolfy failing to keep just 1 powerful jew in prison (cause Heiny Himmler liberated that poor Rothschild...) and "forgetting" to intern all the others, the failure against the poor-equipped Soviets, the failure of the non-free money supply, the idiotic Hollow Earthism and so many more...

It must hurt so much that your already small brain is now twisted into a swastika fractal.

Even there Ze Nazis failed; choosing a Buddhist symbol instead of a proud piece from a rich German cultural history.

And to show you really completely have lost your dead man's hand, you accuse me of being a jew, which you know yourself is false.

1 year ago you entered "that Dutch forum" and still haven't learned anything.

Even Dolfy and his Dark Side Duckies were more successful than an impotent gamer like you. :larf:
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 02:32 #10

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^ Bla-bla-bla... yea-yea.. I know you're just trolling away to get responsed out of me, so no worries about that.

Pretty sad tho, to go about on forums purely for trolling...

No sane person would do that, so you've clearly got issues. I mean, even your avatar's got a troll figure in it, while you probably don't even realize it yourself. :larf:

Moving through life as just one big troll lacking any morals... sad.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 13 Nov 2016 03:01 #11

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Flare wrote:
Pretty sad tho, to go about on forums purely for trolling...
I agree. When are you starting to formuate some arguments, you think? Or do you continue your nazi troll role regurgitating jewish con-op Stormy Failer crap?
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No sane person would do that, so I've clearly got issues.
Again agreed.
lacking any morals... sad.
True. You indeed lack morals, as you are not only a statst, but even defending state propaganda and dictatorship. :facepalm:

Ze Fehlures really must hurt. Big time.
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Hungary MPs reject Orban anti-refugee bill 14 Nov 2016 10:21 #12

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This is good news

#TrumpEffect: Bulgaria Elects Pro-Russian President by a Landslide

Everybody is electing pro-Russian Presidents these days, it seems!

What a neat new trend!

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Bulgarian Socialist ally Rumen Radev, a Russia-friendly newcomer to politics, won Sunday’s presidential election by a wide margin, exit polls showed, prompting centre-right Prime Minister Boiko Borisov to pledge to resign.

Radev, 53, entered Bulgarian politics on a wave of discontent with the ruling centre-right’s progress in combating corruption, disappointment with the European Union and concerns among voters over alienating an increasingly assertive Russia.

A former air force commander, Radev has argued Bulgaria needs to be pragmatic in balancing the requirements of its European Union and NATO memberships while seeking ways to benefit from a relationship with Moscow.

Exit polls showed Radev, who is backed by the opposition Socialist party, winning 58.1-58.5 percent of the vote, compared with 35.3-35.7 percent for Tsetska Tsacheva, the 58-year-old candidate of the ruling GERB party.

Compounding GERB’s problems, Tsacheva was seen as lacking Borisov’s charisma.

“The loss of GERB is definite and clear,” Borisov told reporters after exit polls were published.

“In this election, the people showed us that something is not as it should be. That our priorities may be good, but obviously there are better ones. So the most democratic thing, the right thing to do is to (resign),” he said.



Coupled with political instability, Bulgaria’s tilt toward Russia is a blow to the country’s western European allies and underscores Moscow’s growing influence in southeastern Europe.

In Moldova, another ex-communist state near the Black Sea, voters were expected to install a pro-Russian candidate as president and slam the breaks on seven years of closer EU integration in an election also held on Sunday.

While most of the key decisions in Bulgaria are taken by the government, the president, who leads the armed forces, can sway public opinion and has the power to send legislation back to parliament.

Radev is not advocating NATO member Bulgaria abandon its Western alliances, mindful of the financial impact of EU aid and the country’s long history of divided loyalties.

But he has called for an end to EU sanctions against Russia and said Sofia should be pragmatic in its approach to any international law violations by Moscow when it annexed Crimea.

“We listened (to the voters’) concerns. We said that we will work for Bulgarian national interests, that’s what gave us broad support,” a jubilant Radev told reporters.

Many in the Balkan country are keen to see restored trade with their former Soviet overlord, hurt by economic problems and sanctions, and to protect vital tourism revenues.

Speaking on Sunday evening, Radev said he hoped for good dialogue both with the United States and Russia and expressed hopes that with a new president in Washington, there will be a drop in confrontation between the West and Moscow.

“In his election campaign (Donald Trump), already elected, said clearly that he will work for a better dialogue with Russia. That gives us hope, a big hope, for a peaceful solution to the conflicts both in Syria and in Ukraine and for a decrease of the confrontation,” Radev said.

“Pro-Russia” is a codeword for “anti-liberal.”
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