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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 13:28 #61

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There's hundreds of witnesses, CCTV footage, it happened as plain as day.

But if you want to say hoax, you need to look for silly things like ''the camera zoomed'' etc... as if that negates the hundreds of witnesses and the CCTV footage.

Sometimes when the body goes into medical shock the blood moves towards the inner core, it's a complicated process.

But in any case ''hoaxers'' would know how much ''fake blood'' to use, but they never seem to use enough of it, be they CIA, FBI, Mossad Mi6, KGB they never use enough fake blood lol.

Why ''because they are psychopaths and want to shove the hoax in our faces'' :iitm:

LOL if they were psychopaths they wouldn't care about entertaining a hand full of hoaxer conspiracy theorists, they don't care about filling yuor lives with a reason to post...
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 14:13 #62

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But if you want to say hoax, you need to look for silly things like ''the camera zoomed'' etc... as if that negates the hundreds of witnesses and the CCTV footage.

This.

It's good to question certain matters of course, but questions like these are irrelevant and imo feeds one's confirmation hoaxing-bias.

Just like Gaia's remark regarding the dog which has been overrun: "What's strange is the shadow/line over his tail."

I mean... what is that kind of a remark? :larf: :facepalm: It is no clue, no proof of anything... it's nothing. It is totally useless.
However, we have all seen Gaia suddenly claiming he is some kind of 'photo-analysis expert' so apparently he wanted to show some of his 'expertise'.

You are quite spot-on today Ausrotten.

Too bad you just happen to miss out on the Holocaust-lie.
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 14:31 #63

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Too bad you just happen to miss out on the Holocaust-lie.

But I don't miss out on it, nor do I miss out on the other lies which are administered by holocaust deniers.

Of course we're not able to leap back in time and see what occurred for sure, but for me the narrative churned out by leading holocaust deniers that pretend to be revisionists but set out not to revise but to debunk are not really revisionists at all, otherwise they would have revised the collapses in their own narrative, is far from having a stable foot in logic, and is rather subjective from start to finish.

Anything that does not fit with their narrative is dismissed as a hoax, everything that suits their narrative is fact.

That might sit well with you but it does not with me.
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 14:52 #64

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A homemade bomb has reportedly been found in the lorry used to kill at least four people in Stockholm.

Police sources told public broadcaster SVT the device was found in a bag and had not been detonated, adding that the attacker had “burned himself”.

Dan Eliasson, head of the national police, confirmed police had found a suspicious object that "could be a bomb or an incendiary device" in the drivers’ seat and were analysing it.

Stockholm lorry attack suspect was known to intelligence services

Forensics officers and bomb disposal squads worked through the night at the site of the massacre in Drottningatan, a busy shopping area of the Swedish capital.

The lorry was left partially embedded in the Ahlens department store after being ploughed into pedestrians on Friday afternoon, killing four people (and a dog) and wounding 15 others.

The atrocity sparked panic in the Swedish capital, sending people running for cover as public transport and parliament went into lockdown.

A man arrested in Märsta, north of Stockholm, later on Friday is believed to be the driver of the lorry after being found “behaving suspiciously with minor injuries”.

He has not been formally identified but police described him as a 39-year-old man from Uzbekistan, who had reportedly expressed support for Isis online and was known to intelligence agencies.

Local media reported that he had expressed support for Isis on social media but prosecutors would not confirm any link with the group.

Police said they were analysing the man’s phone, contacts and online activity, amid claims he was linked to an Uzbek gang suspected of financing Isis with a fraudulent cleaning company.

A terror link could not be proven in court and three people were jailed for tax evasion and fraud over the scam in 2015, Expressen reported.

Sweden’s prosecutor said the 39-year-old has been arrested on suspicion of murder and terror offences, and will appear in court for a pre-trial custody hearing.

A second man believed to be linked to the main suspect was detained in the district of Hjulsta.

The attacker hijacked a lorry belonging to the Swedish brewery Spendrups as it made a delivery at a nearby restaurant, with a masked man climbing into the empty cab.

The firm said the driver did everything he could to stop his vehicle being stolen, standing in front of it before throwing himself to the side when the attacker almost ran him down, Expressen reported.

The lorry was used to ram into people in a pedestrianised street before crashing into Ahlens shortly before 3pm local time (2pm BST).

“I turned around and saw a big truck coming towards me. It swerved from side to side. It didn't look out of control, it was trying to hit people,” said Glen Foran, an Australian tourist.

Theresa May called Sweden's Prime Minister to express Britain's condolences on Saturday, Downing Street said.

“She was clear that the UK stands firmly by Sweden's side, and they agreed on the importance of working together to tackle these threats, which we all continue to face,” a spokesperson added.

Stefan Löfven told Swedes that the country “must get through this", saying "life must go on" after laying flowers near the site of the attack.​

He called a day of national mourning on Monday, with a minute of silence to be held at noon after tributes were paid around the world.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, although both Isis and al-Qaeda have recently released propaganda calling on followers to carry out vehicle rammings and containing bomb-making instructions.

An issue of its Rumiyah magazine issued in November advised jihadis to launch vehicle attacks in an article citing the Nice lorry attack that killed 86 people as a “superb demonstration”.

The most recent attack in Stockholm was in 2010, when an Iraqi-born Swede killed himself while detonating two bombs days before Christmas.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/stockholm-attack-sweden-lorry-truck-crash-terror-isis-islamic-state-manhunt-latest-suspect-police-a7673527.html





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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 14:53 #65

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Too bad you just happen to miss out on the Holocaust-lie.

But I don't miss out on it, nor do I miss out on the other lies which are administered by holocaust deniers.

Of course we're not able to leap back in time and see what occurred for sure, but for me the narrative churned out by leading holocaust deniers that pretend to be revisionists but set out not to revise but to debunk are not really revisionists at all, otherwise they would have revised the collapses in their own narrative, is far from having a stable foot in logic, and is rather subjective from start to finish.

Anything that does not fit with their narrative is dismissed as a hoax, everything that suits their narrative is fact.

That might sit well with you but it does not with me.

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Exactly the sort of bullshitter that I was referring to, anyway, let's not derail the thread, I'm not going into all that again. Believe what you want about the holocaust.
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 15:07 #67

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Ausrotten wrote:
Exactly the sort of bullshitter that I was referring to, anyway, let's not derail the thread, I'm not going into all that again. Believe what you want about the holocaust.

Fred Leuchter was the gaschamber-expert of the US who designed and built gaschambers himself.

So why should he be bullshitting when after research in Auschwitz he concluded there were no gaschambers there?
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 15:18 #68

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Go start a thread about him and his evidence only, and I'll show you that he's a bullshitter, why he is a busllshitter is of no interest to me.

Let's not derail this thread any further.
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 15:18 #69

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Where's the blood???

bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/9/a/9af2b1675070d79fcbd812b1e105d5287c905f72_1_600x1065.png

:dunno:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sw_hSRt0vw


Why is the camera zooming in and out and shaking???

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DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS A HOAX!


:) ... just asking the first questions that come to my mind. Do you have explanations that convince your mind? Fine. Bring them forward.



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Don't know why there is no blood. But there have been more instances when a piece of bone stuck out after an accident without much blood flowing. Perhaps due to shock? www.encyclopedia.com/medicine/diseases-and-conditions/pathology/shock



real
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fake
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Do you think you would be able to tell one from the other from the distance the photo was taken?

More pics WARNING! duckduckgo.com/?q=open+fracture&t=ffnt&iar=images&iax=1&ia=images



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Regarding the 'shaky cam'... you can see at the start of the video that someone is recording the video from a computer screen with his phone-cam.


The camera is situated right below the ceiling (hight of a normal ceiling assumed, as you can't see it) at a hight of at least about 2.50-3 meters.
Looks like the video is filmed from a higher level upstairs of the shop? What a coincidence that the camera is exactly catching nothing but people walking by and then the truck.

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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 15:32 #70

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^ Here's someone else of who's arm has been completely ripped off:

www.documentingreality.com/forum/f10/arm-ripped-off-after-motorcycle-collided-truck-112399/

... yet, no 'blood everywhere'.

Regarding the 'shaky cam' video, if you look at the vid again from 00:00 - 00:05 in the top-right corner of the video you can see the monitor-screen from which the vid has been taped onto a smartphone.

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Video Of The Truck In Stockholm Attack

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Flare wrote:
^ Here's someone else of who's arm has been completely ripped off:

www.documentingreality.com/forum/f10/arm-ripped-off-after-motorcycle-collided-truck-112399/

... yet, no 'blood everywhere'.



I see quite a lot of blood and this is not the original place where his arm was ripped off.
See the pool of blood on the left?
He was originally lying on his face and turned on his back most probably
if you look at the distance.

WARNING!

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COMPARE: bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/9/a/9af2b1675070d79fcbd812b1e105d5287c905f72_1_600x1065.png


Would you tolerate "False Flag" videos on your thread, Grolongo?
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 15:53 #73

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Please provide a link to the Daily Stormer article that featured this image.

Edit: @Flare.....Thanks for the link..... Found the pic...... pic image agree with Google Earth street views.
IMO, on the available evidence, the attack is NOT a Hoax and the casualties are NOT actors.
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Please provide a link to the Daily Stormer article that featured this image.

www.dailystormer.com/happening-swedes-terrorized-by-moslem-assault-truck-driving-spree/

(it's in the comments section)
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
I see quite a lot of blood and this is not the original place where his arm was ripped off.
See the pool of blood on the left?
He was originally lying on his face and turned on his back most probably
if you look at the distance.

*VERY deep sigh...*

Here's a vid of a girl being driven over with a car:



You can see her foot is dangling from her leg with bone sticking out, yet, no blood all over the ground.

Does this make it clear enough perhaps?

*goes taking an aspirine*
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Flare wrote:
Does this make it clear enough perhaps?

Yes, thanks!

This makes it clear what this really can look like and that there are open fractures
with and without much blood.

Now we can compare to this bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/9/a/9af2b1675070d79fcbd812b1e105d5287c905f72_1_600x1065.png

Good!

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Flare wrote:
Does this make it clear enough perhaps?

Yes, thanks!

This makes it clear what this really can look like and that there are open fractures
with and without much blood.

Now we can compare to this bbs.dailystormer.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/9/a/9af2b1675070d79fcbd812b1e105d5287c905f72_1_600x1065.png

Good!

:)

*sigh of RELIEF*

The whole vid wouldn't have been necessary as it's common knowledge that open fractures don't always have blood gushing out.

But anyway, what do you think about the vid in post # 70, where you can see the truck in the distance going through the street?
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More breaking news: Truck drives into crowds in Stockholm 08 Apr 2017 16:51 #79

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It appears that the defenders of media stories, so the buyers of (((their))) credibility paying with their own beliefs take more time attacking others who do look for clues in this latest Story than doing truth seeking themselves.

Their stance appears to be "the story is real and YOU [skeptic] needs to convince me it's not"

There are huge clues in the media story posted by annabelle.

- the police leaking to/telling the media all kinds of details that are part of a police investigation
- and the biggest; "he was 'inspired' by ISIS"

The majority of the defenders see that ISIS is a Mossad-CIA set-up. A fake straw puppet needed to """justify""" war and instigate FEAR under the European people.

How does that work then? We can find this out easily by checking sources, videos and stories, but the alleged MUSLIM TEWWOWIST failed to do that?

The believers here are thus defending this story:
"A deeply religious muslim who HATES the West, Israel and our lifestyle is inspired by a Zionist organisation and to prove that he uses a (haram) beer truck to kill and wound some people!!"

Read it again, and again, and again until the absurdity of this story hits a nerve.
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See more open fractures: www.youtube.com/results?search_query=open+fracture


Video #70:

I said already everything I had to say, Flare.



Video #71:

Where does the huge "cloud of smoke" come from that covers the truck from sight?
It looks strange. Homogenous like a blanket. Doctored?

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