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TOPIC: Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August

Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 08:23 #61

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Charlottesville police were given a stand down order

It was an organised fiasco to be exploited by communists

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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 08:26 #62

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His mother though has a common Jewish surname and loves a good leftie cause

He'd hardly be the first child that went in an opposite ideological direction to a parent.

As to this being any kind of set up to make the far right look worse than they are :chuckle: ... why wouldn't (((they))) have used a patsy with a firearm to further the gun-grabbing cause that is supposedly so high on the agenda?
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 08:31 #63

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^ sure, it couldve been just a lone nutcase of course... they do exist.

Anyway the death toll is actually 3 now, heres another article....

3 Dead and Dozens Injured After Violent White Nationalist Rally in Virginia

Three people are dead and at least 33 injured after a series of violent clashes erupted at a white-nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday. In the most extreme incident, an apparent white nationalist — in what may have been an act of domestic terrorism — plowed his car into a group of counterprotestors, killing one person and injuring 19. The alleged driver, 20-year-old James Alex Fields, has since been arrested and charged with second-degree murder.

A 32-year-old woman was killed in the collision and another 19 people were injured — including five critically. Many are already calling the incident an act of domestic terrorism, but it was not originally known if the driver acted out of panic or malice. His motive is still not confirmed, but he has been charged with second-degree murder, among other crimes related to the incident.

The Driver
Authorities say they have arrested a 20-year-old Ohio man, James Alex Fields, and charged him with second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and failing to stop at the scene of a crash that resulted in a death. He was arrested after fleeing the scene of the collision with protesters. Authorities have not identified him as the driver of the car used in the attack, but that car was registered to a man of the same name and age. Fields is being held without bail, and will be arraigned on Monday.

It is not yet confirmed why Fields crashed into the protesters, but more details emerged about him late Saturday. He apparently lives in Maumee, Ohio, near Toledo. The Toledo Blade reports that, according to his mother, he was in Charlottesville to attend the white nationalist rally, though she said she didn’t know much about it, only that he had dropped off his cat so he could go to an alt-right rally in Virginia. “I thought it had something to do with Trump,” she told the Blade. They had moved to Ohio from Kentucky last year, and James had moved out of her apartment five-to-six months ago.

Buzzfeed News additionally reports that a Facebook page which appeared to belong to Fields featured posts showing alt-right memes, making references to Nazism and white supremacy, and indicating support for President Trump. Fields also registered as a Republican last year and voted in both Ohio’s primary and last year’s presidential election.

The FBI announced on Saturday night that they are opening a civil-rights investigation into the hit-and-run.

The Victims of the Car Attack and Clashes
A 32-year-old woman was killed in the car attack, but she has not been publicly identified yet. The University of Virginia Medical Center reports that another 19 people were injured when the car plowed into the crowd, including five people were we admitted to the hospital in critical condition. It is not clear if they were all counter-protesters or not, but it seems likely that most of them were. None of those victims, or any of the injured, have been officially identified as of late Saturday night.

14 more people were injured in clashes throughout the day, but little is yet known about them except that none experienced life-threatening injuries.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 08:32 #64

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The State of Emergency and (Late) Police Intervention
Because of the escalating violence, Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency at about 11 a.m., and police ordered the rally attendees and counterprotesters to disperse or face arrest. They were able to evacuate Emancipation park, but clashes continued throughout the city during the dispersal.

“It is now clear that public safety cannot be safeguarded without additional powers, and that the mostly out-of-state protesters have come to Virginia to endanger our citizens and property,” Governor McAuliffe explained. The governor, whose order activated the Virginia National Guard, also said that he was “disgusted by the hatred, bigotry and violence these protesters have brought to our state over the past 24 hours.”

In all, it appears that at least 14 people were admitted to University of Virginia Medical Center for injuries sustained in the street clashes, in addition to the 19 people who were injured, and one person who was killed, when a car rammed into counterprotesters, which occurred after the rally was mostly broken up by police.

Charlottesville authorities are already being criticized for their delayed and clearly inadequate response to the rally, their restraint after things starting going haywire, and their general inability to prevent the ensuing violence. Propublica reports that despite weeks of detailed planning by officials on how to handle the event, “it appears that the strategy was to avoid direct confrontations with the protesters,” and that didn’t work at all.

The Washington Post talked to a former police chief who was puzzled by how police responded to the rally:

“The whole point is to have overwhelming force so that people don’t get the idea they can do these kinds of things and get away with it,” said Charles H. Ramsey, who headed both the District and Philadelphia police departments. Demonstrators and counterdemonstrators “need to be in sight and sound of each other, but somebody has to be in between,” he said. “That’s usually the police.”

Complicating the dynamics was the fact that several dozen groups of armed militias — men in full camouflage toting assault-style weapons — were in the middle of the crowds. Some claimed that they were there to keep the peace, although none appeared to try to stop the skirmishes.
Other reports indicate some of the militia-types did more than the police to break up fights, at least in the beginning.

On Saturday night, the Charlottesville City Council issued an emergency ordinance allowing authorities to institute a curfew in an effort to prevent further violence. There were also other arrests made on Saturday in addition to the hit-and-run driver Fields:

UPDATE: 3 arrested in connection with events in Charlottesville today. #cvilleaug12 pic.twitter.com/kGAjfsMFv9

— VA State Police (@VSPPIO) August 13, 2017
The Response From Trump and the White House
As news of the clashes spread, U.S. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle quickly condemned the violence, most notable among them President Trump, who initially responded on Twitter:

We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 12, 2017
The Department of Homeland Security, as well as White House Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert, then offered their assistance McAuliffe and local authorities.

Am in Bedminster for meetings & press conference on V.A. & all that we have done, and are doing, to make it better-but Charlottesville sad!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 12, 2017
On Saturday afternoon, before a scheduled event related to veterans’ healthcare, President Trump first gave a statement to his press pool about the violence in Charlottesville. In those remarks, he condemned “this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence” on “many sides,” and seemed to try to distance Saturday’s events from his presidency.

Trump on #Charlottesville: "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides" pic.twitter.com/qdvhcnCTpD

— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 12, 2017
Trump’s oddly worded tweets and statement, which conspicuously didn’t mention white nationalism or neo-Nazis, was not surprising given his long history of hesitating to speak out against white-on-minority violence, despite his willingness to condemn a lot of other things. Such an omission also aligned with his administration’s apparent priorities: In June, the Trump administration dropped DHS funding for a group dedicated to de-radicalizing white-nationalist extremists.

President Trump also offered his condolences, via Twitter on Saturday night, to the families of the woman who was killed in the car incident, as well as the two state troopers who died in the helicopter crash.

The Response From Other Republicans
Republican leaders quickly spoke out, but did so much like Trump: issuing anodyne (and in Mitch McConnell’s case, confusing) statements that failed to address why the rally in Charlottesville was taking place, and which seemed to take a “both sides” approach to the violent rioting.

The hate and bigotry witnessed in #Charlottesville does not reflect American values. I wholeheartedly oppose their actions.

— Leader McConnell (@SenateMajLdr) August 12, 2017
I stand with @POTUS against hate & violence. U.S is greatest when we join together & oppose those seeking to divide us. #Charlottesville t.co/p76Y9xQCPL

— Vice President Pence (@VP) August 12, 2017
House Speaker Paul Ryan went a little farther:

The views fueling the spectacle in Charlottesville are repugnant. Let it only serve to unite Americans against this kind of vile bigotry.

— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) August 12, 2017
But later, after President Trump failed to condemn white nationalism in his afternoon remarks, GOP lawmakers were bolder in their denunciations:

Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism. t.co/PaPNiPPAoW

— Cory Gardner (@SenCoryGardner) August 12, 2017
Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) August 12, 2017
What " WhiteNatjonalist" are doing in Charlottesville is homegrown terrorism that can't be tolerated anymore that what Any extremist does

— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) August 12, 2017
We should call evil by its name. My brother didn't give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH

— Senator Hatch Office (@senorrinhatch) August 12, 2017
This post has been updated throughout to reflect new details about the Saturday’s events.

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/state-of-emergency-in-va-after-white-nationalist-rally.html
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 08:49 #65

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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:03 #67

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White Nationalism is being equated to terrorism....

Great, maybe they will get covert government training and funding like ISIS then.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:06 #68

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Two bunches of arse holes that have nothing better to demonstrate against than each other, and an arsehole in a car that kills people.

And the TZ Nazis are having a wank about it.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:12 #69

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Bobby Batter wrote:
Two bunches of arse holes that have nothing better to demonstrate against than each other, and an arsehole in a car that kills people.

And the TZ Nazis are having a wank about it.

Feeling triggered?

It's terrible that a woman was killed......but compare this with Black Lives Matter who seem to get a free pass on shooting cops, and the bias is evident.

And also the fact that the violence mostly and pepper sprays were directed against the Unite protesters, while the media are blaming the Unite for all the violence.

Americans have been fighting wars for years on foreign soil....maybe it's time to actually reclaim freedom in their own country because it has all but disappeared.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:23 #70

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If the far right white nationalists weren't banging their war drums and insisting they be able to do it wherever they want in their own nation, their left-leaning opponents would be opposing Wall St, or some other adversary.
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So where is the media invective against Black Lives Matter who killed that Dallas cop during their protest?

Funny that eh? This is just one of many reasons why white young men are sick of the bullshit, because they're smart and refuse to live in some weird media twilight zone. There wasn't even much of a white movement online before all this Black Lives Matter shit started..

When someone has decided you're the enemy, you have little choice but to defend yourself.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:24 #72

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Just did a People Smart search on Samantha Lee Bloom of Maumee OH

Maiden name is Meyer

She's Jewish so is her son

The (((MSM))) silence will be deafening
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:27 #73

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US white nationalists have been describing blacks as their enemy ever since they were released from their shackles. A slight case of a guilty conscience, methinks.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:28 #74

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Orangeaid wrote:
Just did a People Smart search on Samantha Lee Bloom of Maumee OH

Maiden name is Meyer

She's Jewish so is her son

The (((MSM))) silence will be deafening

So, people with jewish dna are incapable of right wing feelings?
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:29 #75

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ragnarok wrote:
If the far right white nationalists weren't banging their war drums and insisting they be able to do it wherever they want in their own nation, their left-leaning opponents would be opposing Wall St, or some other adversary.

Oh just STFU you Jew communist brain addled piece of degenerate filth.

No prison sentence for thieving the granny knickers?

No more Islamic terrorists to apologise for for blowing up white kids?

The Alt-right are white people who want to protect their culture race and people.

They are no different to the Japanese

Are the Japanese all far-right nationalists? Or just normal Japanese?

They are just normal - like the Alt-right.

You and the commies are the extremists. You are the destroyers. You are the degenerates. You are the filth.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:31 #77

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Truthspoon wrote:
So where is the media invective against Black Lives Matter who killed that Dallas cop during their protest?

Funny that eh? This is just one of many reasons why white young men are sick of the bullshit, because they're smart and refuse to live in some weird media twilight zone. There wasn't even much of a white movement online before all this Black Lives Matter shit started..

When someone has decided you're the enemy, you have little choice but to defend yourself.

^ He said, she said, they did, we did, blah blah blah...

..... blacks and whites with their own minds have nothing to do with it, it's a game for the sheepies, enjoy!

When people learn to protest together, or rather in support of those that they ideologically oppose, against the media and the state, then we have a worth while demonstration, what we have now are people with one track minds, selfish arrogant bastards who just demonstrate for themselves.

LOL the Alt Right got the president that they voted for, and now they're out demonstrating as if Hillary won the presidential election, seems like their not happy with Trump's America, walking around at night carrying torches like the KKK yelling ''who's streets our streets oooh ooooh'' and fighting with a relatively tiny group of counter protesters, and the TZ Alt Right brigade all have their dicks in their hands.

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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:32 #78

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ragnarok wrote:
Orangeaid wrote:
Just did a People Smart search on Samantha Lee Bloom of Maumee OH

Maiden name is Meyer

She's Jewish so is her son

The (((MSM))) silence will be deafening

So, people with jewish dna are incapable of right wing feelings?

He is also a democrat - playing both

Clearly your paymasters aren't providing you with the most up to date information
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:43 #79

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Bobby Batter wrote:
:conf:

I associate the right wing with authoritarianism, and you can ask any Palestinian if they believe jews can have those tendencies.

ps. I don't see any white nationalists describing him as one of those self-hating jews they find so useful in spreading further discord.
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Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally on 12th of August 13 Aug 2017 09:50 #80

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Frothy, many on the alt-right dont consider Trump to be the messiah, they just feel that he is closer to their position than Hillary.

And were not "having a wank" any more than we have had with some other non alt right topics.... it is a discussion.
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