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A car in space 08 Feb 2018 18:22 #1

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Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster and Starman cruise away from Earth in this final photo from the car after its launch on SpaceX's first Falcon Heavy rocket on Feb. 6, 2018.



www.space.com/39633-spacex-tesla-roadster-starman-final-photo.html
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A car in space 08 Feb 2018 18:33 #2

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — The first Falcon Heavy rocket built by the private spaceflight company SpaceX soared on its maiden voyage today (Feb. 6) — a historic test flight that also sent a car toward Mars and included two confirmed booster landings.


Billed as the world's most powerful booster since NASA's Saturn V, the Falcon Heavy rocket lifted off from Launch Pad 39A here at Kennedy Space Center (KSC) — the same site used by NASA's Apollo moon missions and space shuttles — at 3:45 p.m. EST (2045GMT) after more than two hours of delays due to upper level winds.

"I'm really excited about today," SpaceX CEO Elon Musk told reporters after the launch. "I'm really proud of the SpaceX team. They've done an incredible job of creating the most advanced rocket in the world, and the biggest rocket in the world."

Standing 23 stories tall, the Falcon Heavy rocket is SpaceX's largest rocket yet. Its first stage is powered by three core boosters based on SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets, with 27 engines (nine per booster) firing in unison to produce about 5 million lbs. of thrust (22,819 kilonewtons) at liftoff. While SpaceX hoped all three boosters would return to Earth and land, the center core missed its mark - a minor hiccup in an otherwise successful launch, Musk said. [SpaceX's 1st Falcon Heavy Rocket Test Flight in Pictures]


The rocket will eventually launch payloads of up to 141,000 lbs. (64,000 kilograms) into orbit. That's about twice the payload capacity of its nearest competitor, the Delta IV Heavy, built by United Launch Alliance.

"This is a test flight," Musk said yesterday (Feb. 5). "If the test flight works, I think we'd be ready to put satellites on the next mission." That mission, Musk added, could occur within the next three to six months.

SpaceX's Falcon Heavy test flight was arguably one of the most anticipated rocket launches in years, with an estimated 100,000 spectators expected to visit Florida's Space Coast to witness the event. Among those in attendance was famed Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who watched as the Falcon Heavy launched from the same pad he used to fly to the moon in 1969.

Part of that allure is the mission's novelty: This Falcon Heavy is the first of its kind, a new breed of reusable monster rocket.

The two side boosters of the first stage have flown before. One launched the Thaicom 8 communications satellite in May 2016, and the other lofted a Dragon cargo ship for NASA in July 2016, according to SpaceX. The center core stage was completely new for the Falcon Heavy. [SpaceX's Falcon Heavy Rocket Explained (Infographic)]

The Falcon Heavy's two side boosters returned to Cape Canaveral to stick a historic double landing after SpaceX's new megarocket successfully launched on its first test flight on Feb. 6, 2018.

In a sort of cosmic dance, the three first-stage core boosters returned to Earth much like SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets have in the past. Two boosters touched down at SpaceX landing sites at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station near KSC. The third was scheduled to land on SpaceX's drone-ship landing pad "Of Course I Still Love You," stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

Musk said the core stage hit the Atlantic Ocean at about 300 mph after two of three engines did not fire during the descent. The crash damaged the nearby drone ship, he added.

SpaceX has now successfully landed Falcon-family rockets 24 times — three on this mission alone. (The rocket family is named after another famously reusable spaceship, the fictional Millennium Falcon from "Star Wars," Musk has said.)

But perhaps the biggest draw of today's launch was the Falcon Heavy's unique payload: a Tesla Roadster riding atop the rocket's second stage.

Musk announced in December that the "midnight cherry red" convertible, which he owns, would be the first Falcon Heavy payload. Then, on Monday, he revealed another surprise: a spacesuit-clad mannequin called "Starman"(a reference to David Bowie's song "Starman") in the driver's seat, with its right hand on the wheel and left arm resting on the door.

About 28 minutes into today's test flight, the second stage carrying the Roadster shut down its engine, ending the main phase of the Falcon Heavy test flight. If all goes well, the second stage will coast for 6 hours through Earth's Van Allen belts, regions of extremely high radiation, and then restart its engine to send the Roadster and Starman toward Mars.

That maneuver will send the Roadster into orbit around the sun and, in turn, eventually carry the car and Starman about 248 million miles (400 million kilometers) from Earth.

"It will essentially be an Earth-Mars cycler," Musk said, adding that the orbit should bring the Roadster near Mars. There is an "extremely tiny" chance the car could hit the Red Planet, he added.

There are three cameras on the Roadster, Musk said, adding that they should capture "epic views" during the mission.

"I'm not worried about the car," Musk said. "It'll be fine."

When Musk first announced the Falcon Heavy in April 2011, he predicted that its first flight could occur by 2013. But that year came and went, followed by more, as SpaceX tackled the nuances of building a reusable heavy-lift rocket. Musk estimates SpaceX invested about $500 million of its own funds to develop the new rocket.

Now, with the first test flight in the books, SpaceX is ready to forge ahead with commercial satellite launches. Two missions are scheduled for 2018: the launch of the Arabsat 6A communications satellite, and the Space Test Program 2 mission for the U.S. Air Force, which also includes a solar-sail mission for The Planetary Society.

The Falcon Heavy's raw power, combined with its reusable design, represents a giant leap forward for SpaceX.

"This would be a major milestone in heavy lift," Scott Hubbard, editor of the peer-reviewed journal New Space and an adjunct professor of aeronautics and astronautics at Stanford University, told Space.com before the launch. "A successful test would really advance, in my view, the potential for planning commercially acquired launch services for deep space."

SpaceX aims to sell Falcon Heavy launches for about $90 million per flight. (The single-core Falcon 9 launches sell for $62 million per flight.) By reusing the Falcon Heavy boosters, the company hopes to drastically reduce the cost of heavy-lift space missions to near that of its Falcon 9 missions.

"If we are successful in this, it is game over for all other heavy-lift rockets," Musk said.

The Falcon Heavy is part of a growing list of SpaceX launch services and ongoing projects. The company already provides satellite launch services and Dragon cargo delivery missions for NASA using its Falcon 9 rockets.

SpaceX is also building a crewed version of the Dragon space capsule to ferry astronauts to the International Space Station for NASA, with the first flights scheduled for later this year.

Meanwhile, SpaceX is developing a launch system even larger than the Falcon Heavy, called the BFR (or Big Falcon Rocket). That booster, Musk has said, is designed to launch hundreds of people into space at one time and could be used to transport passengers around the world quickly for point-to-point travel.

Musk said he was thinking of the BFR on Monday while visiting the Falcon Heavy at the launchpad ahead of today's launch.

"I'm looking at Falcon Heavy, and I'm thinking, 'It's a bit small,'" he said.

www.space.com/39607-spacex-falcon-heavy-first-test-flight-launch.html
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A car in space 08 Feb 2018 19:06 #3

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A car in space 10 Feb 2018 07:18 #4

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No hoax yellers?
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A car in space 12 Feb 2018 08:53 #5

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Well sure... are we supposed to buy all of that hook line and sinker, and why should we?
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A car in space 12 Feb 2018 20:03 #6

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novum wrote:
Well sure... are we supposed to buy all of that hook line and sinker, and why should we?

Are you yelling hoax, yes or no?
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A car in space 12 Feb 2018 22:02 #8

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Bobby Batter wrote:
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Well sure... are we supposed to buy all of that hook line and sinker, and why should we?

Are you yelling hoax, yes or no?

Im not yelling, but will state that i dont necessarily buy into what the elite try and sell us plebs.
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A car in space 14 Feb 2018 00:23 #9

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Identical cloud patterns every orbit. :wissl:

Inconsistency with some shots indicating the car is rotating sideways, others forward. Some shots from the front indicate air bubbles rising from below the rear of car, or are we supposed to believe they're stars rising (whizzing) up? :facepalm:

Oh, and lower windscreen condensation in some shots. :hahano:
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A car in space 14 Feb 2018 00:34 #10

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Identical cloud patterns every orbit. :wissl:

Inconsistency with some shots indicating the car is rotating sideways, others forward. Some shots from the front indicate air bubbles rising from below the rear of car, or are we supposed to believe they're stars rising (whizzing) up? :facepalm:

Oh, and lower windscreen condensation in some shots. :hahano:

So true, but that would make you a "hoax yeller" according to the autist attic troll of the OP.

I liked (though not agreed with his position fully) this take down of this most ridiculous scam in years:

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A car in space 14 Feb 2018 00:49 #11

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A car in space 14 Feb 2018 12:09 #12

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miacat wrote:
Identical cloud patterns every orbit. :wissl:

Inconsistency with some shots indicating the car is rotating sideways, others forward. Some shots from the front indicate air bubbles rising from below the rear of car, or are we supposed to believe they're stars rising (whizzing) up? :facepalm:

Oh, and lower windscreen condensation in some shots. :hahano:

Afaik stars are not visible in space on photography/film, unless one has a specific type of camera (setting) due to their dimness, except the sun of course.

it;s fine to yell hoax, but yell it with substance. Otherwise it's a hollow horn hoax yell, like Gaia's.
I'm not arguing that it isn't fake, but particles drifting about or no stars on the footage does not debunk it.

Try taking a photo of the night sky with a mobile phone camera, you won't see stars. I don't think the bits floating about are bubbles. It wouldn't take long for any trapped air to escape in water, we wouldn't still be seeing bubbles days later.

Clouds don't move that quickly from distance, notice how slow a jet liner seems to move across the sky at 500mph.
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novum wrote:
Bobby Batter wrote:
novum wrote:
Well sure... are we supposed to buy all of that hook line and sinker, and why should we?

Are you yelling hoax, yes or no?

Im not yelling, but will state that i dont necessarily buy into what the elite try and sell us plebs.

So you don't trust what the elite present to the plebs, hence you have this forum. Okay I got that!

Is there anything about this car in space thing in particular that would lead you to yell hoax?
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Seems like a lot of the questions are answered on this physics website.

physics.stackexchange.com/questions/385272/how-is-elon-musks-tesla-surviving-in-spac

Once people have yelled hoax they are reluctant to change they're minds.
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Mine isn't a post arguing scientific reasons why it's fake but I was having a Stanley Kubrick flashback of the fake moon landing footage while watching... :)

Red wrote: UFO fleet starts at 1:11:11 ;)

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Fungi Tobewi wrote:
!s there anything about this car in space thing in particular that would lead you to yell hoax?
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Seems like a lot of the questions are answered on this physics website.

physics.stackexchange.com/questions/385272/how-is-elon-musks-tesla-surviving-in-spac

Tesla, like NASA in some respects, is in part dependant on government assistance, tax breaks and more, from accounts ive read. Not an area ive delved into too deeply but that seems to be the word. It does have private investors but it also gets Uncy Sams help.

Now of course they need to justify this, and wowing the plebs with bread and circuses can do just that.

Physicists for the most part tend to parrot their approved textbooks and have their lab experiments... almost all of them have never been on a NASA mission or even higher than 10 kilometers or so above the ground... this is a fact. There is still a large factor of them only knowing what they are told, not what they have seen with their own eyes, when it comes to space travel.

Most physicsts are primed for work that assists the military, this is the occupations primary function and often starts in university... (dont ask me how i know. :wissl: )

Im also of the opinion that NASA's true purpose, or at least its primary purpose, is much the same.. military technology.

This of course boils down to global control of land and resources as well as people.

So no, i dont and wont buy what they are selling, i dont claim to know it all but i know govt and corporate motives are disguised as feel good and helping humanity, when in actual reality its to help the few and further distance themselves from us and further enslave us... ergo i dont buy into their shite necessarily at the drop of a hat like some, there is enormous incentive for them to lie to us.

and its interesting to see an increasing number of others not falling for whatever is put on TV hook line and sinker.. that seemed to be a boomer thing and it might just be tapering off a little these days.
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Fungi Tobewi wrote:



:dunno:

Did you see it with your own eyes, or anyone else here? Or anyone you know?

And if it was visible up there, how can you know how high up it was.. if it is indeed in space or lower?

So you just buy anything put out on the youtubes then?

And..re your edit reason...im not entirely sure of that AZ observatories background and that of its founder, but at a glance that is looking like yet another case of... every. single. time. :P :lmao:
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novum wrote:
Fungi Tobewi wrote:
!s there anything about this car in space thing in particular that would lead you to yell hoax?
Fungi Tobewi wrote:
Seems like a lot of the questions are answered on this physics website.

physics.stackexchange.com/questions/385272/how-is-elon-musks-tesla-surviving-in-spac

Tesla, like NASA in some respects, is in part dependant on government assistance, tax breaks and more, from accounts ive read. Not an area ive delved into too deeply but that seems to be the word. It does have private investors but it also gets Uncy Sams help.

Now of course they need to justify this, and wowing the plebs with bread and circuses can do just that.

Physicists for the most part tend to parrot their approved textbooks and have their lab experiments... almost all of them have never been on a NASA mission or even higher than 10 kilometers or so above the ground... this is a fact. There is still a large factor of them only knowing what they are told, not what they have seen with their own eyes, when it comes to space travel.

Most physicsts are primed for work that assists the military, this is the occupations primary function and often starts in university... (dont ask me how i know. :wissl: )

Im also of the opinion that NASA's true purpose, or at least its primary purpose, is much the same.. military technology.

This of course boils down to global control of land and resources as well as people.

So no, i dont and wont buy what they are selling, i dont claim to know it all but i know govt and corporate motives are disguised as feel good and helping humanity, when in actual reality its to help the few and further distance themselves from us and further enslave us... ergo i dont buy into their shite necessarily at the drop of a hat like some, there is enormous incentive for them to lie to us.

and its interesting to see an increasing number of others not falling for whatever is put on TV hook line and sinker.. that seemed to be a boomer thing and it might just be tapering off a little these days.

I get that you don't trust tptb.

I'm asking if you have noticed anything specifically about this car in space thing, that would lead you to yell hoax. Rather than you simply don't trust NASA or tptb in general?
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novum wrote:
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:dunno:

Did you see it with your own eyes, or anyone else here? Or anyone you know?

And if it was visible up there, how can you know how high up it was.. if it is indeed in space or lower?

So you just buy anything put out on the youtubes then?

And..re your edit reason...im not entirely sure of that AZ observatories background and that of its founder, but at a glance that is looking like yet another case of... every. single. time. :P :lmao:

Nope I didn't see it with my own eyes, but that in itself is no reason to yell hoax. There's lots of things that I didn't see with my own eyes. My position on the car in space thing. is if it is a hoax, how do you tell? How is the footage hoaxed? Where's the smoking gun?

Why is it so hoax worthy to shove a car in a capsule into orbit? I won't yell hoax unless there is something substantial to go on.

For example regarding the lunar landings I think a lot of the footage is hoaxed. problems with the scenery, and the moon buggy vehicle. I don't think the vehicle or the other footage was taken on the moon. I'm not convinced they knew the film would work there.

However faking footage does not mean that man has not been to the moon. But here, well, it's not even that, it's just sending an object into orbit or to drift off. lots of people saw the rocket take off. So why not?

Maybe you'd like it more if Andrew Anglin said it was real?
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