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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 18:54 #1

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The EU has passed Article 13, but Europe's meme war is far from over

The EU has passed Article 13, its controversial "meme-killing" law, with very few amendments, but copyright enthusiasts shouldn't get too chirpy

The European Parliament has voted to pass the new EU Copyright Directive. This is when things get messy.

Over the last few months, today's vote had been portrayed as a decisive battle over the future of the internet as we know it. Whether you believed that or not, the vote revealed what side of the debate you stood on.

We have been here before: the directive was already rejected in a vote in July, following an energetic opposition campaign orchestrated by prominent technologists and internet grandees – including the inventor of the World Wide Web Sir Tim Berners-Lee, and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. Far from being killed, though, the legislation was simply reassessed, with MEPs putting forward over 100 amendments. So here we are.

The main points of contention are the directive's Article 11 and Article 13 — which detractors have dubbed, respectively, the "hyperlink tax" and the "upload filter."
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Article 11 would require internet companies to pay news outlets for hosting their content on their platforms. While this has been welcomed by some news corporations, others suggested that this would force social media companies such as Facebook, Google and Twitter to pay news organisation in order to feature as little as two words — or a hyperlink — from their news stories. Article 11 states that publishing "insubstantial parts of a press publication" should not be subjected to the norm, but fails to give a clear definition of what "insubstantial" boils down to. Does it mean a hyperlink snippet? A sentence? A word?

Recent amendments aimed at introducing exceptions for "private and non-commercial" individual sharing of links and hyperlinks also left some critics underwhelmed — mainly because most people share links on internet platforms, which would still have to comply with the directive.

Article 13 is — if possible — even more controversial, earning itself the reputation of a "meme killer." It would require web giants to automatically filter copyrighted material — songs, images, videos — uploaded on their platforms, unless it has been specifically licensed. Despite its divisiveness, the piece of legislation passed by 438 votes to 226 with 39 abstentions in the European Parliament.

The most furious lobbying efforts focused on this article, with musicians, artists and authors coming out strongly in favour of the rule, and technology companies — such as YouTube — warning against its dangers.

Concerns included the filters' blocking of non-copyrighted material by accident, pretextual copyright claims by "copyright trolls", and the crowding out of smaller websites which cannot afford expensive filter software to keep their platforms compliant. Even if a meme-saving proviso was put forward, protecting the right to share material for parody purposes, some objected that the kind of AI-powered algorithms most likely to carry out the filtering operation would not be able to recognise memes. (Although Facebook seems interested in training its AI to do just that.)

On the other hand, content creators retorted that Article 13's impact was being unfairly exaggerated. "The proposals ask internet giants to follow the offline norm and pay a fair share for creative content used on their platforms," the UK's Society of Authors wrote on its blog ahead of the vote.

Today's vote is not the end of the story, though: every amendment approved today will have to undergo another round of behind-closed-doors negotiations between EU politicos and EU member states, before going again through a vote in January 2019. The meme war is far from over.





If meme's become too effective, just ban them :iitm:
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 19:12 #2

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This war on memes is more about the boring vindictive Politically Correct Humourless left trying to do away with humour as a means of raising awareness to their mind-fuckery. The joke is actually on them, and many of them now know it too, so now the lousy creeps are trying to inoculate themselves from being the subjects of some good old righteous humour and some fully justified ridicule.

They might eventually be able to ban memes on the bogus grounds of copyright, but they won't be able to stop content creators and artists from creating their own artwork, and making it royalty free for others to use.
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 20:05 #3

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Will western Europeans be able to find a way around all this censorship by the E.U.?


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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 21:38 #4

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From our friends at juicemedia a short vid on what the bill will do with our internet freedom

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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 21:54 #5

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Zorro wrote:
This war on memes is more about the boring vindictive Politically Correct Humourless left trying to do away with humour as a means of raising awareness to their mind-fuckery. The joke is actually on them, and many of them now know it too, so now the lousy creeps are trying to inoculate themselves from being the subjects of some good old righteous humour and some fully justified ridicule.

They might eventually be able to ban memes on the bogus grounds of copyright, but they won't be able to stop content creators and artists from creating their own artwork, and making it royalty free for others to use.

Its not just memes mate , its go's much further then that . Im still looking into the matter but from what I understood so far is that you wont be able to do pretty much anything

Uploading or sharing links will be forbidden(unless you buy a licance )
Political commentary will be a thing of the past
Critisizing Merkel, EU policy , mass migration wont be possible any more
Faire use laws wont applay anymore

Its the end of free speech as we know it
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 21:57 #6

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Somewhat longer video that discusses it in more detail




For those thinking , thank god I dont live in the EU. It's just matter of time before they get you as well :hahano:
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 21:58 #7

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Grolongo wrote:
From our friends at juicemedia a short vid on what the bill will do with our internet freedom


Nice! :lmao:

It seems we here living in western civilization are having an iron curtain dropped on us all concerning basic communication.

Freedom for everybody! :lmao:
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 22:03 #8

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Grolongo wrote:
Somewhat longer video that discusses it in more detail




For those thinking , thank god I dont live in the EU. It's just matter of time before they get you as well :hahano:

That shit isn't going to fly in the United States. If they're forcing all of us off the internet to take more direct action they're doing a good job. We'll just organize in the streets, our houses, bars, back alleys, abandoned buildings, and in wilderness retreats. You know what all of that has in common? It can't be monitored, hacked, or disrupted.

Bring it on you sons of bitches!
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This war on memes is more about the boring vindictive Politically Correct Humourless left trying to do away with humour as a means of raising awareness to their mind-fuckery. The joke is actually on them, and many of them now know it too, so now the lousy creeps are trying to inoculate themselves from being the subjects of some good old righteous humour and some fully justified ridicule.

They might eventually be able to ban memes on the bogus grounds of copyright, but they won't be able to stop content creators and artists from creating their own artwork, and making it royalty free for others to use.

Its not just memes mate , its go's much further then that . Im still looking into the matter but from what I understood so far is that you wont be able to do pretty much anything

Uploading or sharing links will be forbidden(unless you buy a licance )
Political commentary will be a thing of the past
Critisizing Merkel, EU policy , mass migration wont be possible any more
Faire use laws wont applay anymore

Its the end of free speech as we know it

Well, that's where this is all headed in the future if something isn't done to eventually stop them. agreed. But we're a long way off from that at the moment, or from them being able to prevent film makers and artists etc from publishing and sharing their work on the webs.
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 12 Sep 2018 22:12 #10

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Zorro wrote:
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This war on memes is more about the boring vindictive Politically Correct Humourless left trying to do away with humour as a means of raising awareness to their mind-fuckery. The joke is actually on them, and many of them now know it too, so now the lousy creeps are trying to inoculate themselves from being the subjects of some good old righteous humour and some fully justified ridicule.

They might eventually be able to ban memes on the bogus grounds of copyright, but they won't be able to stop content creators and artists from creating their own artwork, and making it royalty free for others to use.

Its not just memes mate , its go's much further then that . Im still looking into the matter but from what I understood so far is that you wont be able to do pretty much anything

Uploading or sharing links will be forbidden(unless you buy a licance )
Political commentary will be a thing of the past
Critisizing Merkel, EU policy , mass migration wont be possible any more
Faire use laws wont applay anymore

Its the end of free speech as we know it

Well, that's where this is all headed in the future if something isn't done to eventually stop them. agreed. But we're a long way off from that at the moment, or from them being able to prevent film makers and artists etc from publishing and sharing their work on the webs.



If their goal is to destroy, dissuade, or stop us it is only going to be an epic failure as every form of government censorship is. This will only embolden us making our respective movements stronger where we're just going to rebel, insurrect, and resist that much harder. What a bunch of clowns!
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"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

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I am going to be a nerd and utilize a "Lord Of The Rings" reference. It seems appropriate for the current discussion.

"But there were some who resisted...."



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"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

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"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

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The E.U needs to be shut down completely

what a monumental waste of time and energy these loosers are

fucked the entire continent of Europe over for 30 years plus and now this bullshit

they know their shit doesn't stand up to scrutiny so they want to ban dissent

well fuck them , they will be executed if they carry on this way

it happens to every dictator eventually - very few get away in the end

they should fucking learn the hard way
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imagine that , getting a trend going of 20-30 million European citizens posting memes calling for the execution of the traitors

then they would know what it feels like to be one of the people of Europe , to be hounded daily by every aspect of media and government and to have the police turned against you for the crime of being a nationalist in a time of traitors
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I am going to be a nerd and utilize a "Lord Of The Rings" reference. It seems appropriate for the current discussion.

"But there were some who resisted...."




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From our friends at juicemedia a short vid on what the bill will do with our internet freedom

Great video, thanks.

Satire, parody, those are among our best weapons to show the silliness of those who think they have the right to silence us.
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The EU has passed Article 13, the meme killing law 13 Sep 2018 00:03 #16

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I think the proposals of this draconian article 13 bill could end up backfiring on the E.U. This could be the one which ends up pushing the people over the edge. These control freaks always end up pushing people too far. They never learn. They did the same in the Soviet union, thinking they had a monopoly on what people could view, or what people could think and say. And people still managed to organize against the oppressive state, and that was without the help of the internet. There will eventually come a point when people will organize, and stand up and say enough is enough. It's just a question of when.
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I think the proposals of this draconian article 13 bill could end up backfiring on the E.U. This could be the one which ends up pushing the people over the edge. These control freaks always end up pushing people too far. They never learn. They did the same in the Soviet union, thinking they had a monopoly on what people could view, or what people could think and say. And people still managed to organize against the oppressive state, and that was without the help of the internet. There will eventually come a point when people will organize, and stand up and say enough is enough. It's just a question of when.

I admire your optimism, but just like in the discussion with Sword and Hammer, it's in vain man. People will not "wake up". They swallow it and go on with their lives.

Memes are much bigger than just this truth seeking corner of the internet, but even that, nobody is taking up their kitchen knives and fireworks to fight this.

The EU is Orwellian craziness, but that doesn't stop people from believing their propaganda.

I have had these discussions with -in theory- smart people (Grolongo knows them) before, but they either are or act like minions of that controlling power.
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I think the proposals of this draconian article 13 bill could end up backfiring on the E.U. This could be the one which ends up pushing the people over the edge. These control freaks always end up pushing people too far. They never learn. They did the same in the Soviet union, thinking they had a monopoly on what people could view, or what people could think and say. And people still managed to organize against the oppressive state, and that was without the help of the internet. There will eventually come a point when people will organize, and stand up and say enough is enough. It's just a question of when.

I admire your optimism, but just like in the discussion with Sword and Hammer, it's in vain man. People will not "wake up". They swallow it and go on with their lives.

Memes are much bigger than just this truth seeking corner of the internet, but even that, nobody is taking up their kitchen knives and fireworks to fight this.

The EU is Orwellian craziness, but that doesn't stop people from believing their propaganda.

I have had these discussions with -in theory- smart people (Grolongo knows them) before, but they either are or act like minions of that controlling power.


I'm sure people said communism wouldn't collapse in Russia also but collapse it did.
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I think the proposals of this draconian article 13 bill could end up backfiring on the E.U. This could be the one which ends up pushing the people over the edge. These control freaks always end up pushing people too far. They never learn. They did the same in the Soviet union, thinking they had a monopoly on what people could view, or what people could think and say. And people still managed to organize against the oppressive state, and that was without the help of the internet. There will eventually come a point when people will organize, and stand up and say enough is enough. It's just a question of when.

I admire your optimism, but just like in the discussion with Sword and Hammer, it's in vain man. People will not "wake up". They swallow it and go on with their lives.

Memes are much bigger than just this truth seeking corner of the internet, but even that, nobody is taking up their kitchen knives and fireworks to fight this.

The EU is Orwellian craziness, but that doesn't stop people from believing their propaganda.

I have had these discussions with -in theory- smart people (Grolongo knows them) before, but they either are or act like minions of that controlling power.


I'm sure people said communism wouldn't collapse in Russia also but collapse it did.

Did it?

Communism, or its brother socialism is very much alive in Venezuela and Cuba.

Still, there is no sign of collapse of the house of cards built by the magicians. They will keep going, despite all of our efforts to expose them.

That is not fatalism, it is realism.

I support any effort to the effect of exposing them, but to think "we are winning" is madness, utopian BS, that can only become a deception.
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"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
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Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it. Secure transactions via paypal.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2018 - May 2019, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 265 GBP )
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$ 340 - Raised
( £ 265 GBP )
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100%
Updated
30th November 2018

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.