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TOPIC: SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home

SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 03 Apr 2019 14:30 #1

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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 03 Apr 2019 15:08 #2

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I have previously posted on the Child Protection Service in the US that regularly steals children from their loving parents to place them in the custody of slave drivers and child abusers: www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523357-US-government-%93releases%94-kids-to-child-traffickers


On 25 February, a mother took her 2-year-old boy to the doctor because he had a high fever. The mom agreed to take her son to the hospital later that day.
When the boy’s fever went down, the parents didn’t go the hospital as they concluded that there is no emergency anymore.

The doctor reported the parents to the Department of Child Safety of Arizona to check up on the boy, because the parents had not vaccinated him and refused to take him to the hospital.

Later that day, at about 10:30 p.m., two police officers knocked on the family’s door but no one answered. The cops asked a neighbor about the family who told them that "she was a good mother".
The DCS caseworker arrived and told the cops that the mother didn’t to take her son to the hospital. The cops also called the family's doctor, who repeated that the child should have been taken to the hospital...

At about 11:30 p.m., the caseworker told the cops that DCS planned to obtain a "temporary custody notice" from a judge to take the child for emergency medical aid.
It was a little after 1 a.m. when a SWAT team kicked down the family’s door carrying "lethal coverage". The cops pointed guns, yelling "Chandler Police Department" and entered the house.

I guess that the boy was first taken to the hospital. The kids were all placed in separate foster homes.
DCS requested that the court session 10 days later would be closed to the public, which the judge refused.
The judge ruled that taking the children was “lawful” and told the parents "to remember that the state had them on a family-reunification plan and wants them to regain custody of their children".

After a DCS review the children were placed with their grandparents. There's no telling how long it will be before the kids can return home to mom and dad: reason.com/blog/2019/03/27/sick-2-year-old-swat-team-dcs-parents
David Icke – freemason, new ager and paedophile buddy - spinning tales to cover-up the scandals of the Royal psychopaths: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1125

SERCO – the biggest company you never heard of: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=69054#p59198
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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 03 Apr 2019 20:10 #3

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Yea its a bit mental in the US of A re. child protection services, doesnt take much to have your children taken.
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 03 Apr 2019 20:15 #4

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novum wrote:
Yea its a bit mental over there, doesnt take much to have your children taken.
The SWAT Team might be an American thing, but having the family doctor, child protection services, and the State taking your children away is happening in Europe too. There's also a strong push for vaccination, and demonizing of parents who don't vaccinate their kids in Europe
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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 04 Apr 2019 02:46 #5

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Arizona SWAT Team Raids Home to Take Toddler with Fever

Shocking video shows the Chandler police with guns drawn breaking down the front door of a home owned by Chandler resident Brooks Bryce:

The police were involved after a doctor at a local clinic called the Arizona Department of Child Safety to report that the child had a “life-threatening” fever. The child is also unvaccinated, according to reports.

But the child’s mother, Sarah Beck, insisted that after the doctor saw the child, the boy’s fever broke and was going down. As the threat of danger was eliminated, the parents said, they decided not to take their child to the emergency room because the cost of the visit would be too great.

“For me to take my healthy son to the emergency room would have cost me $2,500. We don’t have $2,500 sitting around to take our healthy son to the hospital,” Brooks Bryce told 12 News:

The video of the police action was shocking enough for Arizona State Rep. Kelly Townsend to call for an investigation.

“That is not the country that I recognize,” Townsend said after seeing the video of the police breaking down the Bryce family door.

“At that point who now owns control over the child?” Townsend wondered.

“And it seems like we’ve given that now to the doctor and the parent no longer has the say, or they risk the SWAT team taking all of your children and potentially the newborn,” she said, adding that the police action was a “mistake” and that the system needs to be reviewed.

Meanwhile, authorities have yet to return the children to their parents.

www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/03/28/arizona-swat-team-raids-home-take-toddler-fever/

A few questions about this.

If the doctor was so concerned about the boy's fever, which was said to be life-threatening, according to what the doctor told the parents at the time the boy was brought into the clinic, and the doctor wanted to do follow up to see if his fever had been treated at the hospital, and if not, why not, why could the doctor not have given a call to the parents at home to ask them directly how the boy was doing? before making a call to anyone else? that, to me, would have been the logical thing to do.

He could have called the parents at home, and they would have told him/her that the boy's fever had broken, it was going down, and was, in their opinion, no longer life threatening.

If the doctor was, for whatever reason, not willing to take them at their word, then he could have asked them if they would mind if they got a house call from a medical professional to ensure that he was okay (for his peace of mind).

I don't know how it works in the U.S. but do they have medical 'house calls' or medical 'wellness' checks from say a paramedic or medical person?

Whatever the case, if the doctor had spoken directly to the parents on the phone and they had explained that the boy's fever had broken, it was going down, and was no longer an emergency in their estimation, the situation could have ended right then.

He could have asked them to make sure they bring the boy back into the clinic or to the emergency department if the boy's medical situation changed for the worse and left it at that (unless he had legitimate reason to believe they were being untruthful).

The doctor may have had the boy's best interest at heart and had real reason to be concerned if the boy did have a life threatening fever, but he went about it in the wrong way imo, by calling the authorities instead of the parents directly as a follow up.

The doctor, instead of talking to the parents themselves, called CPS.

It appears that CPS then called the family who informed them that the boys fever had broken and he was fine, there was no emergency.

CPS, not taking them at their word, insisted they take the boy to an emergency department to verify that the boy really was fine.

It would be frustrating for the parents, at that point, to not be taken at their word, to be presumed to be possibly not telling the truth.

The parents say they refused to take the boy to the emergency department because it would cost them $2500.00. Would it really cost $2500.00 to take a boy to the emergency department in the U.S. to see if he has a life threatening fever?

If it does cost anywhere near that much then that is shocking and nuts.

Don't they have hospitals in the U.S. where the medical costs for such a visit in emergency departments would be covered?

I got to say, this is why, as messed up as the medical system is in Canada, I do think it is a good thing that citizens do not have to make any direct payment or pay any money to be seen or treated by a doctor in an emergency department.

But anyway, the family tell CPS that they are not going to take the boy to the emergency department, that he is fine, his fever is down, and they can't afford to take him to the emergency department, especially considering he is no longer in danger (paraphrasing). That gets CPS hackles up (maybe the boy is not fine and the family just don't want to spend the money to take him to the emergency dept) and they call the police in.

Maybe all the police know is that the boy was taken to a doctor, the doctor told CPS that the boy had a life threatening fever, and now, the boy's parents have refused to take him to an emergency department.

For all the police know, the boy could be dying in there, and then, the parents refuse to come out to talk to them or allow anyone to see if the boy is okay.

The parent(s) not being willing to let someone check on the boy directly leaves the police no choice, they have to go in by force. I am presuming that CPS or the police DID ask if a medic could go inside the house to check on the boy's health directly

But it should never have gotten to that point.

The doctor should not have called CPS instead of the parents. CPS should have asked the doctor who notified them of his concerns, to call the family to ask them how the boy is doing and take it from there.

Lets say the doctor did call the family and they told him the boy still had a life threatening fever but they were unwilling to take him to the emergency department because it would cost them $2500.00 that they did not have or couldn't afford, that would have been the time to get someone else involved, for the sake of the boy.

A mediator of some kind who would come up with a plan with them to ensure the boy's health, in this potential emergency, despite the financial obstacle.

I still have trouble believing it would cost such an amount of money to take a child to an emergency department in the U.S. (american citizens let me know if this be true or not).

Police are called when crimes are in progress or when crimes have been committed. This family did not commit a crime. When the boy was seen by medical personnel and it was confirmed that the parents were telling the truth, that his life was not in danger, that the fever had broken as the parents had said, he should have been returned to them.

The system appears rigid in how this was all dealt with, or what is publicly known about it. The doctor who set it all off, being rigid in his actions, CPS being rigid in calling the police in and not returning the boy to his family from the hospital. The parents too, made a mistake in not cooperating at the scene, even though the boy was okay.

If the parents were not honest people and the boy really did still have a life threatening fever that they were refusing to get treated at the emergency department because of the cost, and the boy died as a result.................then everyone would be hating on the parents, and the doctor, for sending him home untreated, and the hospital emergency department for charging money that some can't afford or charging money at all, and CPS for not intervening and the police for not kicking the door down to get the sick boy to the emergency department before he died.

But it was not the case and the boy should be with his family. The system, rigid as it is, will not reflect on how it came to this. I doubt it anyways.

Hopefully this investigation would look at more than the SWAT team kicking down the door to forcefully have the child taken. It would be better to investigate each step that led to the police kicking down the door.....and the boy now being unjustly separated from his family.

The encased bureaucracy of the compartmentalized system.

I think of Scott Peck's book in which he writes about the compartmentalization of evil.

(edit) whether or not the boy was vaccinated or not should not have played any part in this at all
Last Edit: 04 Apr 2019 09:32 by annabelle.
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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 04 Apr 2019 06:48 #6

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That Doctor is a vaccine shill
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 04 Apr 2019 06:50 #7

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Rocco wrote:
The SWAT Team might be an American thing, but having the family doctor, child protection services, and the State taking your children away is happening in Europe too. There's also a strong push for vaccination, and demonizing of parents who don't vaccinate their kids in Europe

Fair enough, I dont know the deal in Europe, but know the US is bad... and more of that has just been posted since i was here last.

The agendas come from top down and politicians in respective countries implement them everywhere, so eventually everywhere ends up similar ey.
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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SWAT Team forcifully removes unvaccinated 2 yo child from his home 04 Apr 2019 10:14 #8

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Are there still three exemptions to having to get your children vaccinated in the U.S.? medical, philosophical and religious?

This family live in Arizona.

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A student is exempt from required immunizations if the parent or guardian of the student submits a signed statement to the school administrator stating that the parent or guardian has received information about immunizations provided by the department of health services, understands the risks and benefits of immunizations and the potential risks of non-immunization and that due to personal beliefs, the parent or guardian does not consent to the immunization of the student.

A child in child care is exempt from required immunizations if the child’s parent or guardian objects on the grounds that it conflicts with the tenets and practices of a recognized church or religious denomination of which the parent or child is an adherent or member. Medical exemptions are also allowed.

But then there is this:
azdhs.gov/documents/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/immunization/school-childcare/referral-notice-inadequate-immunization.pdf

and this:
www.azdhs.gov/documents/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/immunization/school-childcare/school-immunization-requirements.pdf

Probably the only way out of being forced to get children vaccinated, in Arizona and other States, is to have them home schooled.

Was the family already flagged for not having their children vaccinated?

When I was a child in school (in Germany) they had certain days of the year when they vaccinated all the children right there in the school. They never let the children know ahead of time. It was a matter of the teacher, in the morning, telling the children that they were about to be vaccinated, then, in alphabetical order according to your last name, they would call you one by one and take you to a room and leave you with a nurse who would vaccinate you whether you wanted to be or not.
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