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TOPIC: The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga

The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 09 Jul 2019 16:12 #61

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I used to go many years ago to a local Anglican church that had been in existence for over a hundred years. It eventually became on odd cross between liberal and conservative. Their was a big debate going on about gay marriage with the liberals being on board with gay marriage and gays being allowed to be clergy and conservatives being against gay marriage inside or outside of the church.

It produced a schism within the church and the church eventually shut down and was rebuilt across the street. After it was rebuilt is became an open 'LGBTQ' church and they advertise as such. People who are not pro-LGBTQ are not welcome there.

This all began because the old church decided to have a welcoming 'loving and compassionate' attitude towards gays.

Now their church no longer exists and the new one does not welcome or have a 'loving and compassionate' attitude towards Christians who do not agree with the gay agenda, including those who supported the church for decades.

I noticed driving by the new LGBTQ church during Ramadan that the church had in large letters on their outside sign board next to the street the words 'HAPPY RAMADAN - WE WISH ALL OUR MUSLIM FRIENDS A HAPPY RAMADAN'.

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What is Islam's position on the treatment of homosexuals?

Islam goes beyond merely disapproving of homosexuality. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.

(It bears mentioning that this does not mean that every Muslim wants to kill every homosexual).



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Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" -

Quran (7:81) - "Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?" This verse is part of the previous text and it establishes that homosexuality as different from (and much worse than) adultery or other sexual sin. According to the Arabic grammar, homosexuality is called the worst sin, while references elsewhere describe other forms of non-marital sex as being "among great sins."

Quran (26:165-166) - "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing"

Hadith and Sira

Abu Dawud (4462) - The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done." (This is a sahih hadith)

Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one's wife).

Sahih Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman."

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."

Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did." This is also repeated in three other places.

There are several lesser hadith stating, "if a man comes upon a man, then they are both adulterers," "If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both Adulteresses," "When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes," and "Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (Abu Dawud 4462 and al-Tirmidhi 1456)

As one cleric recently put it, the only point of theological debate is not whether the homosexual should be killed, but how it should be done. (See also Fatwa Islamiyah, which advocates burning and stoning).

Zafar Bangash, an imam and journalist who serves as the Director of Contemporary Islamic Thought and president of an Islamic Society chapter in Canada, has openly called for gays to be stoned to death: "My brothers and sisters, it is not time to live in coexistence with them. It is time for us to pick up the stones to stone these people to death for the abomination that they are committing."

In 2016, an educated imam in Tunisia explained that while it may seem harsh, there is no ambiguity in Islam:

God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don’t make any excuses about that, it’s not our law — it's the Quran

Also, according to Serge Trifkovic:

Mohammed’s first successor Abu Bakr reportedly had a homosexual burned at the stake. The fourth caliph, Mohammed’s son-in-law Ali, ordered a sodomite thrown from the minaret of a mosque. Others he ordered to be stoned. One of the earliest and most authoritative commentators on the Quran, Ibn ‘Abbas (died 687) blended both approaches into a two-step execution in which “the sodomite should be thrown from the highest building in the town and then stoned.

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Muslim political leaders in the West often imitate and form alliances with social liberals which sometimes include peripheral support for gay rights. Unfortunately, this appears to be more out of expediency and self-interest rather than genuine concern. There has never been any noticeable effort on the part of Muslim leaders in the West to relieve the plight of homosexuals in Islamic countries overseas - where their influence would surely carry more weight than that of their secular allies.

www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx

And this is the thing.....Muslims actually kill gays for being gay, they still throw them off of high places in the Muslim world and there are Muslims here in the west who privately advocate for doing the same here (and I have no doubt it has been done).

Muslims are actually a dangerous threat to gays because of the 'unchanging' Quran, Hadiths and Sira which are viewed as the direct message of God upon the earth, which laws are still in effect as if it was written yesterday.

But are LGBTQ zealots going to war against western Islam? against Muslims? against the Quran? the Hadith and Sira? Are they saying they are 'offended' by the Quran?

NO.....they band together with them just as Qantus has banded together with Emirates based in the United Arab Emirates.

Instead they launch attacks against Christians who are not killing them and are not an actual danger to them at all.
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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 09 Jul 2019 19:00 #62

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Let's bring our Main Man in on the discussion..:)-

Jesus said "The Creator made them male and female, and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh', so they are no longer two, but one." (Matt 19:4)

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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 09 Jul 2019 19:14 #63

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annabelle wrote:
Banks in Canada are on board with the gay pride agenda as well..

Same here in Britain too, this ad for Lloyds bank aired on Brit TV last year and stills from it are plastered around on hoardings.
Top- A homo goes down on one knee to propose to his black fairy boyfriend
Bottom- He said yes!
How friggin romantic, pass me a tissue somebody (sniffle)..:)


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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 09 Jul 2019 19:24 #64

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Proper love..:)-

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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 11 Jul 2019 00:23 #65

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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 13 Jul 2019 02:14 #66

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THANK YOU ISRAEL FOLAU
By Sentinel - June 27, 201914010 933

It was always going to happen. Australians have for years and years been pushed and pushed. Told what to think and what not to think.

Thought control, brilliantly prophesied many years ago by George Orwell, has been slowly invading and taking root in the very fabric of Australian culture. Insidiously, powerfully and threateningly it has been sliding like a serpent in the grass past our ankles, often unnoticed.



This has been an invasion of a new order, not a physical invasion but a mental one. Australians are famous for their fighting spirit in the physical theatre of war, their bonds of mateship running deep, but mental war?

In mental war we are newcomers.

Political Correctness, one of the many forms of Communism, has been able to invade our entire culture and all our institutions. For years Australians have been bewildered, stuttering, defensive : “I’m not a racist”. Australians have been wholly inadequate against the ever encroaching evil of Political Correctness. Many still struggle to hold their ground. At physical warfare we are incredible. At mental warfare, not so much. Every organ in the Australian body is diseased with Political Correctness, or more deeply, Communism. People live with it, it is now “how things are”.

On an instinctive deeper level, there has been a deepening sense of violation.

It is fitting that a footballer is at the epicentre of the pushback, for football is central to Aussie culture. It is the fireside where Aussies warm their hearts, share and enjoy a sense of community. It needed to be a footballer and Israel Folau, by all accounts a very likable, decent, earnest, sincere man, was the one destiny chose. He now is the torchbearer for all who wish to push back Communistic invasion into our land .. the mental invasion that has been so little understood but deeply felt by all.

A QANTAS CEO, Communist-infected, attempted to punish Israel for having his own thoughts. Yes, there is always an excuse, but the deeper reality is Israel felt a heavy boot on his throat when living his life as we all do. If he breached any contract then that contract should never have existed. A homosexual, in defence of his own sexual practice, has no right on any level to big brother a man he has never met who is living his life in a totally normal way. Israel happens to be religious, were he not, the same applies.

What we are witnessing is a massive rejection of thought control, more deeply of Communism. Money is pouring in. More and more people are getting on board. Australian Rugby risks bankrupcy. Many media personalities who thought they ruled, had the upper hand, are feeling their real or imagined grip on Australia loosening. Australia is finding her very spirit. She is finally, in a half conscious state, throwing off Political Correctness, more deeply Communism. Many don’t fully understand what they are doing, it is more an instinctive act they feel they must carry out. A full, more lucid comprehension of what this is really all about will hopefully come later, but a great surge of anti-Communistic defiance is now well under way.

This is deeply needed for our country and could well inspire and give heart to other countries around the world currently riddled with Communistic invasion.
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The massive backlash in Australia against #globohomo and the Left in the light of the Israel Folau saga 20 Jul 2019 15:36 #67

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Talks break down once and for all between Israel Folau and Rugby Australia

Israel Folau's legal team has confirmed negotiation talks with Ruby Australia have failed.

Sacked former Wallabies star Israel Folau has confirmed a last-ditch attempt to avert court action against Rugby Australia has failed.

The Fair Work Commission issued a certificate on Friday confirming all reasonable attempts to resolve the dispute have been unsuccessful.

The long delay in the industrial relations umpire issuing the certificate had sparked speculation a negotiated outcome was still possible.


Folau’s lawyers now have 14 days to lodge a case with the Federal Court.

The timing is now likely to coincide with the Morrison government’s looming debate on new religious freedom laws, if he chooses to proceed with legal action.

The rugby player’s contract was ripped up last month over his Instagram post that said homosexuals would go to hell unless they repented. The homophobic post also warned drunks, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters that “hell awaits you”.

A fundamentalist Christian, Folau is arguing the prohibition on his social media posts is an affront to his religious freedoms.

The 30-year-old star’s legal team includes barristers George Haros and Stuart Wood AM QC.

“We are disappointed that we were unable to reach a settlement with Rugby Australia and the NSW Waratahs through the Fair Work Commission despite numerous good faith discussions,” Mr Haros told The New Daily.

“We would like to thank the commission for its efforts in trying to bring all parties to a common ground.

“With our client, we are now considering our options, which includes the possibility of court action.”

Folau is currently overseas, supporting wife Maria at the netball world cup in Liverpool.

Last month Folau said the legal fight was a matter of principle. But cash is also involved with the star player seeking up to $10 million in lost earnings.

“I will forever be grateful and proud to have played the sport I love for our nation,” he said.

“Ours is an amazing country built on important principles, including freedom of religion.

“A nation made up of so many different faiths and cultural backgrounds will never be truly rich unless this freedom applies to all of us.”

Rugby Australia said on Friday night it had not further comment on the certificate being issued.

However, it denied speculation the prospect of Folau playing for Australia in the World Cup was raised the matter was resolved.

Previously, Rugby Australia said it had no choice other than to act in the interests of the right of all Australians to feel safe.

“We will defend those values and the right for all people to feel safe and welcome in our game regardless of their gender, race, background, religion or sexuality,” the statement said.

“We will remain focused on getting on with the job of building our game, supporting our teams, encouraging more people to play rugby and upholding the values that generations of Wallabies and Waratahs have represented with pride.”
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