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TOPIC: Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War?

Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 02 Oct 2019 03:55 #1

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It's happening!

President Trump admits the move to impeach him, his is actually a coup. They are trying to impeach him without any evidence.

Alternative media is already predicting Civil War.


"As I learn more and more each day, I am coming to the conclusion that what is taking place is not an impeachment, it is a COUP, intended to take away the Power of the People, their VOTE, their Freedoms, their Second Amendment, Religion, Military, Border Wall, and their God-given rights as a Citizen of The United States of America!"


www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/01/donald-trump-impeachment-effort-a-coup-to-take-power-from-the-people/
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 04 Oct 2019 09:50 #2

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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 09 Nov 2019 13:06 #3

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A Successful Coup Against Trump Will Murder American Democracy

President Trump calls it a witch hunt, but it really is a coup against American democracy. The Democrats who want Trump impeached don’t realize this. They just want Trump impeached because they don’t like him. The impeach Trump people don’t understand that if the coup against the elected president succeeds, every future president will know that if he attempts to “drain the swamp” or bring any changes not acceptable to the ruling elite, he, too, will be destroyed. Voters who want real change will also get the message and give up trying to elect a president or members of the House and Senate who will be responsive to voters. It will mean the end of democracy and accountable government. Unhindered rule by the Deep State and associated elites will take democracy’s place.

It is unfortunate that progressives do not understand this. Progressives want real change and Trump impeached, but these desires are at variance with one another.

Few, if any, of the impeach Trump crowd are paying any attention to the fabricated case against Trump that has taken the place of the Russiagate fabrication that failed. They could not care less what the case is or whether it is a fabrication. Dislike of Trump suffices.

Nevertheless, let’s look at the fabricated case.

First of all, the alleged whistleblower is not a legitimate whistleblower. He is Eric Ciaramella, a CIA officer with a second-hand complaint who met with House Intelligence (sic) chairman Adam Schiff a month ahead to orchestrate the event. Ciaramella served on Obama’s staff when VP Joe Biden was point man for Ukraine. Ciaramella also worked with CIA Director John Brennan, the architect of “Russiagate,” and with a Democratic National Committee operative who encouraged Ukraine officials to come up with dirt on President Trump.

All of this and more has caused the “whistleblower” to withdraw from testifying.

Desperate for a substitute, Democrats have come up with tainted career bureaucrats who favor military aid to Ukraine and a hard line toward Russia. Bill Taylor a US diplomat in Ukraine claims that Trump’s ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, said that US military aid to Ukraine was conditional on Ukraine reopening the government’s investigation into the Ukrainian company, Burisma, an investigation that VP Joe Biden had closed down. Burisma is the company that paid as much as $1.75 million to Biden and his son.

Taylor claims that another bureaucrat, Tim Morrison, told him that Sondland communicated the “quid pro quo” to an aide to Zelensky.

Sondland rejects the claims by Taylor and Morrison.

A Ukrainian born rabid anti-Russian US Army officer serving on the National Security Council, Alexander Vindman, also offers two cents of unverified quid pro quo claims. Vindman’s motive seems to be that President Trump is inclined to follow a different policy toward Ukraine than Vindman prefers.

This is the extent of the case against Trump. Amazingly weak considering that Ukrainian president Zelensky has stated publicly that there was no quid pro quo and that the released transcript of the Trump-Zelensky conversation shows no quid pro quo.

Now for the issue of the alleged quid pro quo. It seems that everyone on both sides of the argument takes for granted without a second of thought that if there was a quid pro quo, there was an offense, possibly one sufficiently offensive to warrant impeachment. This is utter ignorant nonsense.

Quid pro quos are endemic in US foreign policy and always have been. The US government offered Ecuador president Lenin Moreno a $4.2 billion IMF loan in exchange for revoking Julian Assange’s asylum. Moreno took the deal. www.globalresearch.ca/assange-bought-4-2-billion-former-ecuadorian-president-confirms-imf-loan-exchange-assange/5674374

Washington offered the Venezuelan military money to overthrow President Maduro. The military refused the offer.

Dozens of examples come readily to mind. Research would produce enough to fill a book.

What do you think the sanctions are that the US president places on countries? They are punishments that Washington imposes for not accepting Washington’s deal.

As for a quid pro quo deal between the US executive branch and president of Ukraine, we have VP Joe Biden’s boast that he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating corruption in the firm that had purchased US protection by putting Biden’s son, Hunter, on Burisma’s board. Joe Biden brags in front of the Council on Foreign Relations that he gave the Ukrainian president 6 hours to fire the prosecutor or forfeit $1 billion in US aid.



the prosecutor or forfeit $1 billion in US aid.

www.dailywire.com/news/ukraine-prosecutor-that-biden-got-fired-says-he-was-told-to-back-off-investigation-report-says?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Actengage

thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

As Biden was US Vice President at the time and is currently the leading Democratic candidate for the US presidential nomination, he is clearly guilty of what Trump is accused. Why is only Trump subject to investigation? If an offense that is merely suspected or alleged suffices for impeaching a president, why isn’t a known and admitted and bragged about offense reason to disqualify Biden from being president?

One would think that a question this obvious would be the topic of debate. But not a word from the presstitutes, Democrats, or Republicans.

Finally, there is the question of the whistleblower law. If this interpretation sent to me by a reliable source is correct, there is no basis in law for the alleged whistleblower complaint.
www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/09/30/the-whistleblower-complaint-is-an-orchestration-not-in-compliance-with-whistleblower-law/

www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/11/07/a-successful-coup-against-trump-will-murder-american-democracy/

Donald Trump is a stooge for the right-wing arm of Talmudists/Zionists so the facade of 'democracy' in the U.S. is a sham as long as the Jew takeover of the U.S. government is in effect. That being said, ironically, I think the above article holds real truth within it. The attempted 'impeachment' of Trump is a sham based on fabrications as well as the selective denial/intentional ignoring of all the REAL quid pro quos that DO and HAVE taken place all the time within the highest echelons of governments and have for a very long time The only thing I can figure is that there are split factions between the Jewish left-wing and Jewish right-wing overlords. Perhaps other deep state players/powerful organizations such as skull and bones style secret societies also come into play.

As for whether or not the ongoing coup in America will lead to civil war, I think it depends on whether or not this sham impeachment/coup is successful or not. If the sham impeachment is successful and they remove Trump from office as a result (which is unlikely in my opinion since the facts are still on Trumps side....but you never know since the democrats are going full tilt deception and it involves members of the deep state protecting their own asses) then I do think there will be a civil uprising on the part of the right but for it to be successful it would take massive amounts of knowledgeable people, many trained military/ex military soldiers, police, mercenaries, political insiders etc.. who are on board. It would also take hitting the mass media, literally contingents of highly trained soldiers doing a takeover of the headquarters of the deep state controlled left-wing mass media outlets/headquarters in the U.S.

If Trump is not impeached and he wins re-election there could be a civil uprising on the part of the left and full scale (yet unofficial) war declared by those on the left and deep state (and their millions of backers), who have been behind the impeachment. Trump's life or ability to manage as POTUS could be in danger if he wins re-election.

I do still think that Jewish billionaire Mike Bloomberg or Hillary Clinton could end up being the democratic candidate running against Trump (if they are not successful in ousting him in this sham coup/impeachment).
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 09 Nov 2019 19:05 #4

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Hmm... elections are within a year already.

Are you guys expecting Trump will be couped before that time?
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 10 Nov 2019 12:55 #5

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Whistleblower Attorney Bragged About Getting Security Clearances For "Guys With Child Porn Issues"

As we learn more about the apparatus behind the effort to impeach President Trump, questions about the Democratic operative attorney representing a CIA whistleblower at the heart of the inquiry have emerged.



On Thursday it emerged that the attorney, Mark Zaid (linked to Clinton, Schumer and John Podesta), tweeted "We will get rid of him," in reference to President Trump, followed weeks later with the tweet "#coup has started" in support of fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates, who refused to enforce an Executive Order banning the admission of refugees from certain countries.

In response to his anti-Trump tweets, Zaid said on Friday: "I was referring to a completely lawful process of what President Trump would likely face as a result of stepping over the line, and that particularly whatever would happen would come about as a result of lawyers."

Zaid is the founder and director of the James Madison Project, which still lists Clinton campaign manager John Podesta as a member of its board in a hidden area of the website.

Stranger Things

What Zaid hasn't addressed is why his alleged YouTube channel 'liked' videos about "Disney Girls," and why he enjoys going to children's theme parks alone based on his social media history.

On Friday, Twitter users pointed out that Zaid oddly bragged about helping "guys with child porn issues" obtain government clearances in response to a February thread about former Trump aide Rob Porter, who was fired following allegations of domestic abuse.

(view article link)

And while everyone is entitled to legal representation, why would Zaid, who allegedly enjoys 'Disney kids,' brag about getting clearances for pedophiles?

And people wonder why the Department of Defense has a massive pedophile problem.

Y I K E S Invalid consumer key/secret in configuration

www.zerohedge.com/political/whistleblower-attorney-bragged-about-getting-security-clearances-guys-child-porn-issues
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 10 Nov 2019 22:49 #6

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annabelle wrote:
A Successful Coup Against Trump Will Murder American Democracy

President Trump calls it a witch hunt, but it really is a coup against American democracy. The Democrats who want Trump impeached don’t realize this. They just want Trump impeached because they don’t like him. The impeach Trump people don’t understand that if the coup against the elected president succeeds, every future president will know that if he attempts to “drain the swamp” or bring any changes not acceptable to the ruling elite, he, too, will be destroyed. Voters who want real change will also get the message and give up trying to elect a president or members of the House and Senate who will be responsive to voters. It will mean the end of democracy and accountable government. Unhindered rule by the Deep State and associated elites will take democracy’s place.

It is unfortunate that progressives do not understand this. Progressives want real change and Trump impeached, but these desires are at variance with one another.

Few, if any, of the impeach Trump crowd are paying any attention to the fabricated case against Trump that has taken the place of the Russiagate fabrication that failed. They could not care less what the case is or whether it is a fabrication. Dislike of Trump suffices.

Nevertheless, let’s look at the fabricated case.

First of all, the alleged whistleblower is not a legitimate whistleblower. He is Eric Ciaramella, a CIA officer with a second-hand complaint who met with House Intelligence (sic) chairman Adam Schiff a month ahead to orchestrate the event. Ciaramella served on Obama’s staff when VP Joe Biden was point man for Ukraine. Ciaramella also worked with CIA Director John Brennan, the architect of “Russiagate,” and with a Democratic National Committee operative who encouraged Ukraine officials to come up with dirt on President Trump.

All of this and more has caused the “whistleblower” to withdraw from testifying.

Desperate for a substitute, Democrats have come up with tainted career bureaucrats who favor military aid to Ukraine and a hard line toward Russia. Bill Taylor a US diplomat in Ukraine claims that Trump’s ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, said that US military aid to Ukraine was conditional on Ukraine reopening the government’s investigation into the Ukrainian company, Burisma, an investigation that VP Joe Biden had closed down. Burisma is the company that paid as much as $1.75 million to Biden and his son.

Taylor claims that another bureaucrat, Tim Morrison, told him that Sondland communicated the “quid pro quo” to an aide to Zelensky.

Sondland rejects the claims by Taylor and Morrison.

A Ukrainian born rabid anti-Russian US Army officer serving on the National Security Council, Alexander Vindman, also offers two cents of unverified quid pro quo claims. Vindman’s motive seems to be that President Trump is inclined to follow a different policy toward Ukraine than Vindman prefers.

This is the extent of the case against Trump. Amazingly weak considering that Ukrainian president Zelensky has stated publicly that there was no quid pro quo and that the released transcript of the Trump-Zelensky conversation shows no quid pro quo.

Now for the issue of the alleged quid pro quo. It seems that everyone on both sides of the argument takes for granted without a second of thought that if there was a quid pro quo, there was an offense, possibly one sufficiently offensive to warrant impeachment. This is utter ignorant nonsense.

Quid pro quos are endemic in US foreign policy and always have been. The US government offered Ecuador president Lenin Moreno a $4.2 billion IMF loan in exchange for revoking Julian Assange’s asylum. Moreno took the deal. www.globalresearch.ca/assange-bought-4-2-billion-former-ecuadorian-president-confirms-imf-loan-exchange-assange/5674374

Washington offered the Venezuelan military money to overthrow President Maduro. The military refused the offer.

Dozens of examples come readily to mind. Research would produce enough to fill a book.

What do you think the sanctions are that the US president places on countries? They are punishments that Washington imposes for not accepting Washington’s deal.

As for a quid pro quo deal between the US executive branch and president of Ukraine, we have VP Joe Biden’s boast that he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating corruption in the firm that had purchased US protection by putting Biden’s son, Hunter, on Burisma’s board. Joe Biden brags in front of the Council on Foreign Relations that he gave the Ukrainian president 6 hours to fire the prosecutor or forfeit $1 billion in US aid.



the prosecutor or forfeit $1 billion in US aid.

www.dailywire.com/news/ukraine-prosecutor-that-biden-got-fired-says-he-was-told-to-back-off-investigation-report-says?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Actengage

thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

As Biden was US Vice President at the time and is currently the leading Democratic candidate for the US presidential nomination, he is clearly guilty of what Trump is accused. Why is only Trump subject to investigation? If an offense that is merely suspected or alleged suffices for impeaching a president, why isn’t a known and admitted and bragged about offense reason to disqualify Biden from being president?

One would think that a question this obvious would be the topic of debate. But not a word from the presstitutes, Democrats, or Republicans.

Finally, there is the question of the whistleblower law. If this interpretation sent to me by a reliable source is correct, there is no basis in law for the alleged whistleblower complaint.
www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/09/30/the-whistleblower-complaint-is-an-orchestration-not-in-compliance-with-whistleblower-law/

www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/11/07/a-successful-coup-against-trump-will-murder-american-democracy/

Donald Trump is a stooge for the right-wing arm of Talmudists/Zionists so the facade of 'democracy' in the U.S. is a sham as long as the Jew takeover of the U.S. government is in effect. That being said, ironically, I think the above article holds real truth within it. The attempted 'impeachment' of Trump is a sham based on fabrications as well as the selective denial/intentional ignoring of all the REAL quid pro quos that DO and HAVE taken place all the time within the highest echelons of governments and have for a very long time The only thing I can figure is that there are split factions between the Jewish left-wing and Jewish right-wing overlords. Perhaps other deep state players/powerful organizations such as skull and bones style secret societies also come into play.

As for whether or not the ongoing coup in America will lead to civil war, I think it depends on whether or not this sham impeachment/coup is successful or not. If the sham impeachment is successful and they remove Trump from office as a result (which is unlikely in my opinion since the facts are still on Trumps side....but you never know since the democrats are going full tilt deception and it involves members of the deep state protecting their own asses) then I do think there will be a civil uprising on the part of the right but for it to be successful it would take massive amounts of knowledgeable people, many trained military/ex military soldiers, police, mercenaries, political insiders etc.. who are on board. It would also take hitting the mass media, literally contingents of highly trained soldiers doing a takeover of the headquarters of the deep state controlled left-wing mass media outlets/headquarters in the U.S.

If Trump is not impeached and he wins re-election there could be a civil uprising on the part of the left and full scale (yet unofficial) war declared by those on the left and deep state (and their millions of backers), who have been behind the impeachment. Trump's life or ability to manage as POTUS could be in danger if he wins re-election.

I do still think that Jewish billionaire Mike Bloomberg or Hillary Clinton could end up being the democratic candidate running against Trump (if they are not successful in ousting him in this sham coup/impeachment).

Life is too good for civil wars today, things would need to get really bad first.. the liberals for of protst is to throw their starbucks at someone ... If western nation's did not have a we'll fisnced organised army, the nation's would be easy to invade and take over... They won't start a civil war.

Thought perhaps in 30 odd years...
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 02:36 #7

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Amazing isn't it, an honest to God coup is taking place in America to unset a duly elected, sitting POTUS and not a single disturbance, not a single ripple in the, social, economic, and political fabric.

I never would have called it that way.

America, where the US citizens own millions of guns, ...not a peep.

www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11/10/mccarthy-this-is-a-calculated-coup-orchestrated-by-adam-schiff/
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 03:22 #8

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Amazing isn't it, an honest to God coup is taking place in America to unset a duly elected, sitting POTUS and not a single disturbance, not a single ripple in the, social, economic, and political fabric.

I never would have called it that way.

America, where the US citizens own millions of guns, ...not a peep.

www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11/10/mccarthy-this-is-a-calculated-coup-orchestrated-by-adam-schiff/

The European mind knows the consequences of war better than any other

There is all ways an initial reluctance to do it

And then history shows us.once the decision is made there is no turning back and what follows is feared the world.over

*edit* i think your own experiences attest to the change that.occurs in men when they.make the decision to.fight

Its very hard to change their mind and stop it

IMO the european mindset is conscious of this at all times

Millions will die if it comes to civil war

Thats a hell of a decision to make
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 11:23 #9

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Life is too good for civil wars today, things would need to get really bad first.. the liberals for of protst is to throw their starbucks at someone ... If western nation's did not have a we'll fisnced organised army, the nation's would be easy to invade and take over... They won't start a civil war.

Thought perhaps in 30 odd years...

True that....it's why I use the words civil unrest rather than civil war. More like simmering unrest/deep anger/distrust laying underneath the surface with a small portion who are willing to go all out (to protect themselves) imo. A counter coup, or overthrowing a coup, has to take place at the top though. Of course if things get to a certain level, which is quickly happening in many places, then people ought to have the right to protect themselves and their communities. I don't think many people actually want to engage in a civil war rather they want to be able to be left alone and to be safe and to know that their families are safe and their communities are safe.

The greatest threat to citizens being in a place to protect themselves will be all their fellow citizens who have swallowed the mass media propaganda that they are 'domestic terrorists' and as such to be reported to the authorities, spied on, raided, infiltrated etc.. for the good of society.

Minnesota militia group says they're ready for 'civil war'


Timing is everything...

a Senate trial of Trump would hypothetically occur right as the Democratic primary got underway, subsuming Super Tuesday on March 3, 2020.
time.com/5689285/impeachment-trump-election/

and during the worst winter months (as always) when it is cold and people would be less likely to take part in long distance traveling to engage in political upheavals.

coincidence? I think not.

Former CIA Director John McLaughlin: ‘Thank God for the Deep State’


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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 13:51 #10

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Peter Zandroff wrote:

I still haven't figured out why Hillary lost.

Was it the Russian uranium deal?
or was it wikileaks ?
or was it Podesta ?
or Comey ?
or was it a sexual predator husband ?
or was a staff's husband Wiener immoral pictures ?
was it subpoena violation?
or was it the corrupt foundation ?
or was it the congressional lies ?
or was it the Benghazi bungle ?
or was it pay for play ?
or was it travel gate scandal ?
or was it whitewater scandal ?
or the Cattle Gate scandal ?
Or the Trooper Gate scandal ?
Or was it the $15 million for Chelsea's apt bought with foundation money ?
Or Comey's investigation ?
Or her husbands interference with Loretta Lynch and the investigation ?
Or was it stealing debate questions ?
Was it forensically deleting 30,000 emails ?
The secret server in her house?
Was it the Seth Rich murder ?
Was it calling half the USA deplorable ?
Was it the underhanded treatment of Bernie Sanders ?
Was it the Vince Foster murder ?
The Jennifer Flowers assault ?
The Jennifer Flowers settlement ?
The Paula Jones law suit ?
The $800,000 Paula Jones settlement ?
The lie about taking on sniper fire ?
The impeachment ?
The 6 billion $ she "lost" when in charge of the state dept ?
The 10 million she took for the pardon of Marc Rich ?
Or was it because she is a hateful & lying bitch?
Stealing from Haiti?
Unethical lawyer who got fired from her 1st job?
Defending a child molester?

Gee, I just cant quite put my finger on it, but it seems to be right in front of me.

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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 19:40 #11

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We not only have a coup in America, we now have the United Nations physically taking over parts of the sate of Utah.

I have long held that there are two trigger points that could lead to civil war? One was the confiscation of firearms from civilians, the other would be the arrival of UN troops on US soil?

www.investmentwatchblog.com/united-nations-silences-utah-journalist-declares-united-nations-compound-within-utah-and-that-us-territory-is-outside-and-...tion-does-not-apply/
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Look at what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina though when the authorities were confiscating people's legally held weapons. And they brought Blackwater mercenaries in. Mind you U.S. citizens were in an extremely vulnerable position of the aftermath of a 'natural' disaster.

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina


Blackwater Mercenaries Used In New Orleans (Hurricane Katrina)
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 11 Nov 2019 22:21 #13

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So, what exactly is the NRA doing about it? Are they filing lawsuits, are they confronting congress about these unlawful incidences?

Any one can bitch about crimes committed against the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. The NRA rakes in hundreds of millions dollars from US gun owners and IMO don't do enough to protect 2nd Amendment rights. You give them money, they spend their time hitting you up for even more money.

Has the NRA told you, the Sandy Hook massacre? Called, "America's worst school shooting", was a hoax with paid actors designed to promote gun control/gun confiscation?

Why not?

Why did it take citizen journalists to expose the hoax, rather than the NRA? The NRA should have been right on top of that hoax from the get go. But was probably to busy soliciting more money from it's members?

The NRA has gotten too big, to bureaucratic, and to politically correct, to be affective anymore. The NRA has become to timid to do what it was originally designed to do

Fuk em!

I haven't given them azz wipes any of my money since Sandy Hook
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 12 Nov 2019 20:15 #14

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For heaven's sake.

Its not a coup.

Whats being done is well within the law. Trump hasn't even bee impeached yet, though it likely will happen.

He obstructed justice, period. Not just with the Russia investigation but also with Ukraine, then there is also misuse of power, getting foreign politicians to investigate your political opponents, and not to mention the emoluments clause.

The Republicans impeached Clinton for much less. Was that a coup ?

Heck the Republicans would have impeached Obama if they could find anything on him. What do you think all those investigations and scandals were about ? (Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama#Benghazi_attack

Republicans set the standard and now are getting a taste of their own medicine.
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For heaven's sake.

Its not a coup.

Whats being done is well within the law. Trump hasn't even bee impeached yet, though it likely will happen.

He obstructed justice, period. Not just with the Russia investigation but also with Ukraine, then there is also misuse of power, getting foreign politicians to investigate your political opponents, and not to mention the emoluments clause.

The Republicans impeached Clinton for much less. Was that a coup ?

Heck the Republicans would have impeached Obama if they could find anything on him. What do you think all those investigations and scandals were about ? (Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama#Benghazi_attack

Republicans set the standard and now are getting a taste of their own medicine.

jews to the left of me jews to the right here i am stuck in the middle with you
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 14 Nov 2019 02:58 #16

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“Whistleblower” Eric Ciaramalla Hosted Jan 19, 2016 WH Mtg. – Same Day US Told Ukraine in WH Mtg. to Fire Prosecutor Investigating Hunter Biden

According to Stephen McIntyre the demand that Ukrainian top prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired as a condition for IMF loan almost certainly originated with Biden staff. The demand was first announced to Ukrainian prosecutors at a January 19, 2016 meeting with US officials hosted by Eric Ciaramella.

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More evidence emerges that the reason the media want to hide the name of the whistleblower is an honest investigation into Ukraine-Biden corruption would expose the whistleblower's own personal role in criminal conduct. This is why we don't allow secret accusers in America. Invalid consumer key/secret in configuration
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the demand that Shokin be fired as a condition for IMF loan almost certainly originated with Biden staff. The demand was first announced to Ukr prosecutors at Jan 19, 2016 meeting with US officials hosted by Eric Ciaramella.

read more here: www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/pay-dirt-whistleblower-eric-ciaramalla-hosted-jan-19-2016-wh-mtg-same-day-us-told-ukraine-in-wh-mtg-to-fire-prosecuto...pm&utm_content=daily

Leroy Whitby wrote:

That is what is so sick about all of this. The Obama administration officials did everything they are trying to accuse Trump of doing -- and they are trying to make investigating their corruption look like corruption. It's gross and they think we are stupid.

Debra Shawver wrote:

Saul Alinsky 101 ... accuse your enemy/opponent of doing that which you yourself are doing and keep repeating the lies until the dumbed down masses believe it

Conservative Tea wrote:

I'm 100% sure this is a Brennan plot and little "Charlie" is the WH spy in the Page-Strzok texts and has been in on this from the get-go. No wonder he can't testify--their little house of cards collapses.

GWGM wrote:

The role of the press in suppressing this stuff is astounding.
It's like if they don't talk about it, it never happened.
Page, Strzok, Charlie, Brennan, the Bidens, etc... and no one cares.
Conversely, Obama and company weaponized the IRS, CIA, the FBI and Justice Dept. against their political opponents... and again, no one cares.
And Barr, Durham, Horowitz... it's all a black hole.
Barr got the Mueller Report out in 3 minutes... but hasn't put anything out since.
It's all just so dirty.

Brutikus32 wrote:

Charlie's biggest problem is that he is now worth more to the Deep State dead than alive. He might be found hanging from a three-foot-high noose sometime soon.

Sierra wrote:

Looks like they were attempting to cover up the cover up by covering up the cover up. These are the people running our CIA?

It's like an Abbott and Costello or Three Stooges episode.
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 14 Nov 2019 04:09 #17

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Vancity Eagle wrote:
For heaven's sake.

Its not a coup.

You're right, it's not a coup.

The Left are not smart enough to cause a coup. The left's idea of a coup is public whining about Trump's presidency.

According to Websters dictionary, a "coup" is defined as, "a brilliant, sudden, and usually highly successful stroke or act", Since nothing the left is doing, is "brilliant", "sudden", or "highly successful", how could anyone accuse the left of causing a coup?
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 16 Nov 2019 17:40 #18

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Attorney General Barr speaks at the Federalist Society's National Lawyers Convention
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 16 Nov 2019 19:37 #19

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The coup in the usa happened over 100 yrs ago with the advent of the illegal passage by the secret quorum which brought about the powers of the Federal Reserve - an illegal act which was never ratified by either House - Senate nor Congress.
From which , as many of us know , came the American troop involvement in both world wars - wars which no doubt would have ended very differently without American troops . All the financing and armament funding the States gave the Allies in these wars could have been overcome if not for the overwhelming troop presence . How American was brought into the WW's is well known and I believe had the American Banking system not become the jews tool it wouldn't have played out the same.
Pretty much at the same time the mass influx of jews started and never stopped and now this subhuman slime controls the whole show - Left - Right / Conservative / Communist -- .
Possibly but certainly not probably the Kennedy's may have turned the tide but that's jew history - kill the best and buy the rest.

It's not a coup that's ongoing but deliberate theft of the countries wealth , manufacturing and social cohesion. It's GONE - ALREADY RAPED AND PILLAGED - drug / opioid crisis is wiping out the whites - whilst die-versity is doing the rest .
Trump was a fake from the start - totally the jews pawn. - Impeachments are a distraction even he knows that .
Civil war ? Not enough are really awake - they'll buy the 'austerity' line - hunger and perhaps UN or even Chinese ( looking after their properties) will drive them into fema camps - nice warm beds but as for becoming a force to throw out ZOG - well let's see - what exactly is happening to any effective opposition in Europe? - They order it illegal - many won't comply but will that ever be enough? Most haven't even woken up to wifi never lone weapons grades 5G .
Ameicans are stupid , soft and easily manipulated - Yes, there are many awake but strewn across the country ( and the world ) - the Agenda was always to take it down - the jews HATE whites - have corrupted most christians into little pro Israeli's and weaponized many blacks who keep being pushed into any majority white community left - will they or all the migrants and illegals be 'our side' - I doubt it -
We've seen all the preliminary geo - warfare engineered events resulting in gun confiscation - when the next and final economic collapse ensues which is already happening, hits in earnest in a few yrs - I suppose we'll see but I hear a whimper not a roar but I hope I'm wrong.
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Will the Ongoing Coup in America lead to Civil War? 16 Nov 2019 20:20 #20

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annabelle wrote:
Attorney General Barr speaks at the Federalist Society's National Lawyers Convention

Immediately after this fabulous speech, the Democrats now want impeach Attorney General, Bill Barr. Now, do you see why a civil war is inevitable? When you cannot even speak against the evil that is wrecking your nation, there is no recourse but, civil war.

www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/calls-for-bill-barrs-impeachment-intensify-after-he-slams-democrats-during-federalist-society-speech/
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