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TOPIC: Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month?

Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 20:37 #1

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We all know the official story claiming, "no US casualties" on the Iranian attack of Air base, Ain A Assad . But, is that the truth?

Here is a letter from the Pentagon claiming, enormous US casualties and damage to that base.

"TOTAL NUMBER OF CASUALTIES: 285 (139 Deceased, 146 Injured)
EXTENSIVE DAMAGE 15 Helicopters including one Blackhawk, 2 cargo aircraft and three MQ-1 Predator Drones.
EXTENSIVE DAMAGE to Base Command Center 3 Hangars, 3 Barracks and 10 military tents
RELATIVE DAMAGE to Air Traffic Control Tower and Base's runway".


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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 20:56 #2

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Wow. That will also explain why Trump looked so shadey in the press conference after the Iranian strike.

There's no way that the US isn't responding to that either.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 21:20 #3

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Wow. That will also explain why Trump looked so shadey in the press conference after the Iranian strike.

There's no way that the US isn't responding to that either.

So far we haven't really seen them respond though?
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 21:23 #4

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Wow. That will also explain why Trump looked so shadey in the press conference after the Iranian strike.

There's no way that the US isn't responding to that either.

So far we haven't really seen them respond though?

No. But consider the time they've had now since to organize a response.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 21:27 #5

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Saying that, it would have been very difficult to keep the 'enemy' quiet about it all.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 21:53 #6

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Saying that, it would have been very difficult to keep the 'enemy' quiet about it all.

I agree it would be difficult, but certainly not impossible.

I remember reading, in WW2, we were at least 6 months into the war before the media was allowed to show pictures of dead American solders.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 22:12 #7

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peacenik wrote:
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Saying that, it would have been very difficult to keep the 'enemy' quiet about it all.

I agree it would be difficult, but certainly not impossible.

I remember reading, in WW2, we were at least 6 months into the war before the media was allowed to show pictures of dead American solders.

I get that back then. But mobiles are everywhere and there's always someone willing to make quick money selling a story at the very least. It's been nine days - is that possible these days?
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 16 Jan 2020 23:02 #8

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peacenik wrote:
We all know the official story claiming, "no US casualties" on the Iranian attack of Air base, Ain A Assad . But, is that the truth?

Here is a letter from the Pentagon claiming, enormous US casualties and damage to that base.

"TOTAL NUMBER OF CASUALTIES: (139 Deceased, 146 Injured)
EXTENSIVE DAMAGE 15 Helicopters including one Blackhawk, 2 cargo aircraft and three MQ-1 Predator Drones.
EXTENSIVE DAMAGE to Base Command Center 3 Hangars, 3 Barracks and 10 military tents
RELATIVE DAMAGE to Air Traffic Control Tower and Base's runway".


halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/written-confirmation-deaths-injuries-from-iran-missile-attack#comment

How could the US military cover up 193 deaths regarding families and colleagues?
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 00:50 #9

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that letter is fake. Its been confirmed.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 01:03 #10

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The Washington Examiner is saying the letter is a fake? They are saying, the letter was Iran propaganda.....

www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/fake-pentagon-letter-saying-us-troops-died-in-airstrike-is-iranian-propaganda-analysts-say
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 01:05 #11

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With the conflicting reports it's hard to decipher the truth of what really happened.


Damage from some of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran is visible at Ain al-Assad air base. (why is the roof not blown out)


An Uno playing card lies in the rubble of the Ain al-Assad air base. (degraded to rubble but seemingly untouched Uno card?)

NPR international correspondent Jane Arraf and freelance photographer Alexander Tahaov were among a group of journalists invited to tour the base earlier this week.

U.S. officials won't say if the drone strike that killed Soleimani was launched from this base. But the area from where U.S. troops launch drones suffered some of the worst damage in last week's strike.







www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2020/01/14/796219386/the-aftermath-of-irans-missile-attack-on-an-iraqi-base-housing-u-s-troops

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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 03:07 #12

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annabelle wrote:
With the conflicting reports it's hard to decipher the truth of what really happened.


Damage from some of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran is visible at Ain al-Assad air base. (why is the roof not blown out)


An Uno playing card lies in the rubble of the Ain al-Assad air base. (degraded to rubble but seemingly untouched Uno card?)

NPR international correspondent Jane Arraf and freelance photographer Alexander Tahaov were among a group of journalists invited to tour the base earlier this week.

U.S. officials won't say if the drone strike that killed Soleimani was launched from this base. But the area from where U.S. troops launch drones suffered some of the worst damage in last week's strike.







www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2020/01/14/796219386/the-aftermath-of-irans-missile-attack-on-an-iraqi-base-housing-u-s-troops

Mainstream media is bought and paid for and it is hard to tell the real from what is unreal so....

It's crazy!

It's impossible to separate the BS from reality.

On the night o the attack, we watched 10s of volleys of missiles being fired from Iran to that airbase. Each missile is said to be accurate to within 50 ft . The missile defense on that air base wasn't effective. So, if all that were true, why were there NOT causalities? It would have had to be some kind of miracle for there to be no US causalities.

As someone famous once said, "truth is the first casualty of war".
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 03:47 #13

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Well for a fact Donald Trump lied when he said "no casualties, no killed or injured" he even said "no iraqi casualties"

at the very least there are American injured and up to a dozen Americans have admittedly been sent to military medical facilities in Germany and Kuwait. Reportedly sufferring concusions.

Now 2 US airmen were reported dead in the German hospital days after the rocket attack, as reported by Syrian Girl. It was reported that the 2 soldiers were found dead in their sleep.

Could these 2 dead have been from the soldiers evacuated from the Iraq base.

According to the media which reported this, the 2 dead soldiers were stationed in Germany, and not Iraq. I wonder if the whereabouts of a soldier being stationed could be faked easily.

at the very least the media is admitting that almost a dozen concusioned soldiers were evacuated to Germany and Kuwait. I wonder what else will be admitted in the comming days and weeks.

here is the report


Eleven US Troops Were Injured in Jan. 8 Iran Missile Strike


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The troops were medevaced this week to Germany and Kuwait to be treated for traumatic brain injury after experiencing concussion symptoms.

Nearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran’s Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq’s al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One.

Senior military and Trump administration officials had said on Jan. 8 that 11 Iranian missiles had caused “no casualties, no friendly casualties, whether they are U.S., coalition, contractor, et cetera.”

In the past week, news organizations that were granted access to the base to film the damage and interview military personnel have reported that no Americans were killed, wounded, or “seriously injured.” But the New York Times reported on Monday that some personnel had been treated for concussions.

In a Jan. 16 statement, a spokesman for the U.S. military command in Baghdad said, “As previously stated, while no U.S. service members were killed in the Jan. 8 Iranian attack on Al Asad Air base, several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed.”

“Out of an abundance of caution, some service members were transported from Al Asad Air Base, Iraq to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, others were sent to Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, for follow-on screening,” said Col. Myles Caggins, spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve. “When deemed fit for duty, the service members are expected to return to Iraq following screening. The health and welfare of our personnel is a top priority and we will not discuss any individual’s medical status.”

A separate U.S. defense official speaking on background confirmed eleven Americans had been sent out of Iraq for treatment.
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“As a standard procedure, all personnel in the vicinity of a blast are screened for traumatic brain injury, and if deemed appropriate, are transported to a higher level of care. At this time, eight individuals have been transported to Landstuhl, and three have been transported to Camp Arifjan,” said the official.

According to a senior U.S. defense official, “About a week after the attack some service members were still experiencing some symptoms of concussion.” The official expected more information would be released soon. “We only got wind of this in the last 24 hours.”


Initial reports about the attack speculated that Iran had tried to avoid areas of the base that housed military personnel. But U.S. officials soon rejected that notion. In a Jan. 8 press conference, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley said, “The points of impact were close enough to personnel and equipment, so on and so forth, I believe, based on what I saw and what I know, is that they were intended to cause structural damage, destroy vehicles and equipment and aircraft, and to kill personnel.”

Still, several news organizations soon reported from Al-Asad that U.S. troops had been alerted to the attack hours in advance, and told to head for bunkers 15 minutes before the missiles began to strike. Many U.S. troops, however, manned exposed positions, including at least one group of drone operators who stayed in an above-ground building to get their drones aloft and avoid ground damage. The leader of an Army drone team told NPR that he was “knocked off his feet by the blast.” Others told the New York Times that missiles damaged the building they were in.

On Thursday, Pentagon chief spokesman Jonathan Hoffman declined to say what tipped off the Americans. He did deny reports that the warning came from somewhere besides the United States or Iraq.

Kevin Baron is the founding executive editor of Defense One. Baron has lived in Washington for 20 years, covering international affairs, the military, the Pentagon, Congress, and politics for Foreign Policy, National Journal, Stars and Stripes, and the Boston Globe, where he ran investigative ... Full bio
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 17 Jan 2020 20:24 #14

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Well for a fact Donald Trump lied when he said "no casualties, no killed or injured" he even said "no iraqi casualties"

Why are you constantly worried about what Trump has to say?

We all know it's the jews who are running the show.
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 13:08 #15

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There is still little information about the previous K-1 Air Base attack on 27 December 2019.

The name of the American civilian contractor who is said to have been killed in that attack is Nawres Waleed Hamid who is being reported to have moved to the U.S. in 2011 from Iraq and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2017 and was hired to work in Iraq as a linguist through a company called Valiant Integrated Services who paid for his funeral and burial in a Sacramento, California Muslim cemetery.

So technically yes an American... for two years

They have released little details about this attack and as far as I know they have not released the names of the other personnel (American and Iraqi) who are said to have been injured.

The air base was one of many Iraqi military bases that host Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR) personnel.

Operation Inherent Resolve (official website)
www.inherentresolve.mil/

The U.S. blamed the Iranian-backed Kata'ib Hezbollah militia, a subgroup of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), for the attack. Kata'ib Hezbollah denied responsibility.

Funny that according to it's official mandate, Operation Inherent Resolve officially exists to wipe out Daesh/ISIL/ISIS 'and the threat they pose to Iraq, Syria and the surrounding international community'.

And yet in retaliation for this attack against a U.S. base that is suppose to exist (at least in part) for the purpose of destroying ISIS.. the U.S. Trump administration assassinates Major General Soleimani who was one of the most fiercest opponents/warriors against ISIS (ISIS members have been celebrating his death).

If the Maj. General was behind the attack, why would he be out to destroy U.S. forces (Operation Inherent Resolve) whose mandate is to destroy his own fellow enemies....ISIS.

Well everyone knows there is an unofficial/official, undeclared/declared war going on between differing forces Iran/Syria/Iraq vs US/Saudi Arabia/Israel to name a few.

(Yes the Maj. General was a hardliner within Iran so hated by the Iranians who never wanted to be subjected to Islamic hardline oppression/subjugation and Iranians who were rightly angered by the injustices that have resulted but his assassination has only managed to frighten and anger already struggling Iranians whose lives have been made difficult under sanctions.)

It was the George W. Bush administration that designated the Iranian Quds force a terrorist organization in 2007.

Under Obama, Maj. General Soleimani and three other senior Quds officials were suppose to have been believed by some to have been connected to an alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States and were hit with new sanctions.

It was neocon John Bolton who was behind designating the entire Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) a terrorist organization.

Iran retaliated by designating the U.S. military a terrorist organization.

President Bush Announces Start of Iraq War


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'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.'

The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.

This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.

The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'.

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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 13:19 #16

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People here still asleep? That is pretty baffling.

There is no "war" between countries and no Iranian general or US slaves to the MIC died.

Listen to the War Hoax chats, more wisdoms than from known liars (the Media-Industrial Complex).



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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 14:06 #17

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''There's never been a war between two or more nations''

:iitm:
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 14:11 #18

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Are funeral homes a hoax as well Gaia? :larf:
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 14:14 #19

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Frothy wrote:
''There's never been a war between two or more nations''

:iitm:

What is wrong with that statement? Do you have evidence for the contrary?
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Did American Troops Die in the Iranian attack Earlier this Month? 18 Jan 2020 14:17 #20

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Are funeral homes a hoax as well Gaia? :larf:

No, but how do you know that the caskets are filled with people?

"Unrecognizable because of the 'terror attack' and 'not suitable to show to the people with an open coffin'", do you think that is not used?

MH17, that other Ukrainian "plane crash", anyone?

Real people were on the list of that flight, and the disappeared, that is what we can say.

The death, cause of death and circumstances under which the fictims supposedly died are military propaganda narratives, nothing more.

But how could they fake 3000 vicsims (9/11)??!?!/!!!!?111!?1/!?

Holocaust Story anyone?
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