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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:12 #1

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Novum has created a ''novum zone'' in the members forums area, so that posters can post there without having Ole Greasy Thumb shifting the posts into vent that don't fit with his delusional National Socialist mindset.

In other words the forum ''owner'' has to give sanctuary to posters that don't want to be subjected to the ''U-boat Commanders'' bullshit moderating, that's just an insight into what's going on with this forum.

So novum needs to create a forum within a forum for members to posts who don't want to have their posts censored by Greasy Thumb because his antics are basically to ''clean up'' his own threads (from opposing Views) or to encourage trolling of threads that he disagrees with, in fact he's not a moderator for TZ at all, he's only using TZ to facilitate his NS delusions.

Greasy Thumb is moderating for NS, but this is not a NS forum, so wtf does novum want him to moderate it for? And why should the rest of the forum members (the ones that don't lick Greasy Thumb's arse) have to avoid posting on the main forum because their posts don't suit a NS delusion, this is not a NS forum, or is it?

Novum says he;s too busy to do moderating himself, yet we have to post in this section if we want to avoid Greasy Thumb, so if novum is too busy to moderate, why is he not too busy to moderate this section?

Be as well just going back to how things were before Greasy Thumb got his power trip, posters can hit the ''report button'' and novum can deal with that whenever, I don't think anyone has an issue with rodin being the spam buster, but all Greasy Thumb is doing is protecting his own threads and that of his cronies against opposing views and pissing off everyone else that does not kiss his arse.

Can I suggest that it;s Greasy Thumb himself who should have his NS delusions shoved into a members forums area, which other posters can put up with is ''moderating style'' if they chose to post in is members section, and free up the main forums for posters to post in without Greasy Thumb's censorship on behalf of NS.

If he wants his threads protected, move them into his own members forums section, and lets free up the rest of the forum from his NS delusional agenda.

You're doing this the wrong way around novum, it's not members who should post in your section to be free from Greasy Thumb, it's he himself who should be moderating his own members forum only and get his agenda out of the main forums.

Until that happens you're just going to see the same problems over and over, if a moderator has their political views that far up their own arse that they can't help but censor opposing views, we're going to end up like StormFront with this being the opposing views area, when it's an area like this that should accommodate the NS delusion, not the to accommodate other people at the expense of the main forum.

If anything having this Ghetto where Greasy Thumb can't moderate is making the rest of the forum even worse, we should not have to avoid parts of the main forum because you have installed a bias NS moderator. It's about time that you realised that he's not doing anything but promoting NS and pissing off anyone who does not either agree with him, or kiss his arse.

I'm quite sure DG would not have approved.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:19 #2

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:20 #3

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Ausrotten wrote:
if novum is too busy to moderate, why is he not too busy to moderate this section?

Because there wont be too much of that. :larf: :hahano:

That said, this section hasnt been created so people can complain about other members incessantly.

What id like to see here is people just get on with speaking (writing) their mind re. the topics themselves... and there will be very little intervention.

Libertarian Zone if you will. :P Its still one step below no holds barred, (no intervention) which does occur on some forums.

And we're off... :larf:
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:21 #4

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Orwellian Clarity Zone 2.0



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:piab:

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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:23 #5

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The whole forum, except the sub forums, is Libertarian All-Inclusive Zone.

This is to become a Protected-Jew-Zone.

Just like before the downfall of Orwellian Clarity Zone.

Funny idea!

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:26 #6

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Ausrotten wrote:
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Well thats your take on it, mine is a little bit different.

I think Zorro has been fair for the most part.. not perfect in difficult situations with such a variety of personalities and viewpoints (who could be perfect? not me. ) , but fair.

That said, some still arent pleased/happy/satisfied with how things are being done here.

So this is something a little different, it might be a better fit for some people... because we dont all see things the same way... which is why members forums were set up in the first place.

So this is just more of that, more choice, just like the other members forums.

This will be noveration yes, light(er) touch, as i mentioned to earlier... well thats the plan.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:28 #7

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novum wrote:
Ausrotten wrote:
if novum is too busy to moderate, why is he not too busy to moderate this section?

Because there wont be too much of that. :larf: :hahano:

That said, this section hasnt been created so people can complain about other members incessantly.

What id like to see here is people just get on with speaking (writing) their mind re. the topics themselves... and there will be very little intervention.

Libertarian Zone if you will. :P Its still one step below no holds barred, (no intervention) which does occur on some forums.

And we're off... :larf:

People want to get on with posting in the main forum but Greasy Thumb keeps venting posts that disagrees with his opinion, he;s not providing a moderation service rather a censorship service, why can't you just get rid of his moderating privileges.

There is no history of people coming into TZ and posting paedophilia or any such thing, and if they do we can report it to rodin who could delete such posts, anything else can wait until you're available, as I say, Greasy Thumb is causing more problems than solutions, in fact if he had his own NS members area to moderate only, and his own protected threads within it, the forum would run a lot smoother, for sure.

What's happened is that Greasy has spread his views onto the main forums and he's moderating them as if the main forums are his own members forum section.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:32 #8

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
The whole forum, except the sub forums, is Libertarian All-Inclusive Zone.

In your opinion the whole forum is not strict enough for your liking.. not moderated how YOU want... ergo you call it libertarian... but it isnt really, its moderated rather appropriately. Just not strictly enough for you.

This forum might not be so appropriate to some and closer to something you could label as you did above (it STILL wont be that).

People will post where they like best given the chance, so here it is. It is what it is and what people do or dont make of it.
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Case in point, we have one member protesting that the main forums arent strict enough, and another saying they are over moderated.

Pfiz does have her zone, which imo, is an absolutely PERFECT specimin of a forum (for pfiz :chuckle:)

Others not satisfied with the moderation on the main boards dont necessarily want their own members forum, but ive made this and it may or may not be a better fit for some.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 12:51 #10

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Ausrotten wrote:
People want to get on with posting in the main forum but Greasy Thumb keeps venting posts that disagrees with his opinion, he;s not providing a moderation service rather a censorship service, why can't you just get rid of his moderating privileges.

There is no history of people coming into TZ and posting paedophilia or any such thing, and if they do we can report it to rodin who could delete such posts, anything else can wait until you're available, as I say, Greasy Thumb is causing more problems than solutions, in fact if he had his own NS members area to moderate only, and his own protected threads within it, the forum would run a lot smoother, for sure.

What's happened is that Greasy has spread his views onto the main forums and he's moderating them as if the main forums are his own members forum section.

There are many opposing views present on the forum, including those that oppose the mods.

Most stuff is just left to go with the flow, especially when people arent focusing on attacking one another or just repeating themselves or their position incessantly.

As i said its not perfect and/because you can never please everyone, but i see no reason to change things as what we have now is some semblence of organisation when there are more hands on deck (more mods in any 24hr period being present)

What i will do is what ive just done.. nov zone.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 13:11 #11

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^ Nobody is asking for perfection or for everyone to be pleased.

The point is Greasy Thumb is censoring peoples views from threads, ok if that was his behaviour when moderating his own forum members section then that's another matter, but he's ''moderating'' the main forum as if it's his own members section.

Most people understand that moderation errors will occur, that's just part and parcel of being a moderator, or a referee or any form of judge, but when the referee is always making decisions based on his own views and that of opposing views, thus he discriminates against opposing views on purpose, and openly states that he will treat certain posters differently, because they are trolls and trouble makers, because they don't agree with him, nor kiss his arse, that is not simply moderation errors, or a lack of perfection, rather it's a determination to discriminate against a section of the forum members, which is bound to put off people from joining the forum, unless they share his views. Which is exactly what he want's to happen.

If Greasy just had his own area to moderate the forum would run smoother, ie it would be the same as it is now minus his discrimination.

It's not a better organisation now, it's worse, it's little Hitler defending NS each time his Greasy Thumb presses the mod button, it's no longer an all inclusive forum, the fact that you have created this ''nov zone'' to try and patch things up, shows that you know that he's damaging the place, this area is pandering to his NS stand point for the rest of the forum, ie if we don't like his biasness we post in here.

The fact that has to occur should be screaming at you ''Get rid of him.''
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 13:17 #12

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I'll get back to you... time for me to go now.

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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 15:24 #13

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I think the idea of these subforum 'safe spaces' to be faintly ridiculous full stop.

Should probably just shut them all, makes a mockery out of the entire idea...never will I read any thread in one of them.

'Roll up and visit PFIZIPFEI's forum...come on in and read the unadulterated views of a dried up old cunt.'

I'd rather blow a tramp...it would stink quite a lot less I'd wager.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 15:47 #14

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There's hardly ever more than ten posters online on TZ at any one time, all these sub sections and moderators are ridiculous.

Let's just get the forum back with novum moderating it, and we only need rodin to move spammers off when novum is not here.

This forum certainly does not need a member of an online contrarian National Socialist reenactment group (the U-boat Commander) to censor it with his bent logic.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 15:48 #15

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Sorta agree with Zeph, apart from the blown tramp thing.
Anybody can post anywhere already on TZ apart from people who don't actually join.
I seldom bother with Pfizi's area cos she just junks stuff at will so that's a waste of time for me but Pfizi enjoys it.
Everywhere else though the modding has been fine IMO.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 16:02 #16

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Ausrotten wrote:
There's hardly ever more than ten posters online on TZ at any one time, all these sub sections and moderators are ridiculous.

Let's just get the forum back with novum moderating it, and we only need rodin to move spammers off when novum is not here.

This forum certainly does not need a member of an online contrarian National Socialist reenactment group (the U-boat Commander) to censor it with his bent logic.

The only thing that I can think of is that Greasy Thumb is paying novum to let him moderate, it can be the only reason that novum continues to let him damage the forum with his bias censorship, to the degree that novum has created this new space as a sanctuary for posters to post without being censored by Greasy Thumb.

As I say, let the U-boat Commander have his own section if he wants a little bit of power in his life, put all his protected threads in it with him, he can then sit and prune them all day and night whilst the rest of the members are free to post on the main forums without him censoring their posts. If you need to pacify that spoilt brat, do it that way please, this alternative makes one wonder if he's paying you, and you'd rather create yet another layer of forum to moderate rather than pull the plug on Greasy's power trip.
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There is no history of people coming into TZ and posting paedophilia or any such thing.....

There is actually. Gnostic Christian Bishop. I requested his banning. It's the only bann request I've made on the forum.
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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 16:44 #18

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Exorcist wrote:
Ausrotten wrote:

There is no history of people coming into TZ and posting paedophilia or any such thing.....

There is actually. Gnostic Christian Bishop. I requested his banning. It's the only bann request I've made on the forum.

Oh yeah I forgot about him, ok there has been one occasion, but it's not like something that is happening, I mean the forum has not got a track record of having to deal with paedophiles, it's more to do with squabbling here, the point is, there would be less squabbling and need of moderation if the U-Boat Commander had his own section to moderate in the members forums area and was not moderating the main boards, so he could moderate his forum section as he sees fit, others could just not visit his section if they don't like his methods, but there's no point in him moderating the main forum, there's only a few of us here, I don't know about you but I don't want him censoring my posts into vent, it is unhealthy for the forum as he stated that he will treat people who he deems as trouble makers Ie those who oppose his views, differently than those who agree with him or kiss his arse.

If anything it's creating even more squabbling on the forum, thus he's making it look like he's needed here, but he's only causing trouble himself. He moves posts from time to time to justify him being a moderator, they are most often posts of those whom he disagrees with, or at certain points he creates excerpts.

Image TZ without the U-boat Commander moderating the main boards, how would it be any worse of?

But without him performing his Bias censorship on behalf of National Socialism things would run a lot smoother, in fact if he liked this forum at all he would realise that himself and ask novum to remove him as a ''moderator.''

The only thing he's doing at present is censoring other posters by devaluing their posts into the vent area because he does not like them, he's doing that on behalf of the TZ contrarian National Socialist reenactment society.

To have such a group here at all is one thing, but to permit them to censor other posters, I just don't know what novum is thinking to conclude such a decision would be a good thing?
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Who and what is being censored?

seriously? For me censorship would mean posts were deleted. Has that happened? What do other posters think censorship is?


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Novum Zone? 20 Dec 2016 18:04 #20

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^ Not so.

If an editor moves a story off of the front page of a newspaper and into a tiny column on page 27, then the information has been censored, it's been devalued and moved to a less important place, sort of still in the newspaper but tucked away.

I'll tell you what I'll ask novum to move any posts of yours that I don't like into vent, and then you can decide if you feel censored or not?

According to your last post that would be ok by you, no?

Information being moved out of threads in the main forums and into vent is a form of censorship, if you don't think so then you won't mind having your posts vented, just say and I'll give my selections of your posts to vent to novum.
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