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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 16:30 #321

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Waves you are arguing semantics

The Western economies have been moving more in the direction TOWARDS 100% "free markets" and NOT AWAY FROM IT.

This has had a detrimental effect on most people. You cannot spin this no matter how much you try.

If your solution is to move towards 100% anarcho capitalism, like the Ron Paul types, well that is only going to help the oligarchs consolidate control of the money supply. It is not going to bring power into the hands of average citizens. It is a con.

Like you noted above, Centralization of control by the elites can happen through ECONOMIC centralization of power, and not just through government.

The more the oligarchs can get the government out of the way, the more consolidation of wealth will occur, and the wealth of the world will be further centralized under their control. This is inevitable.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 16:45 #322

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 17:46 #323

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Kikes don't care for schwarzes, got that?
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 19:18 #324

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Waves you are arguing semantics

The Western economies have been moving more in the direction TOWARDS 100% "free markets" and NOT AWAY FROM IT.

This has had a detrimental effect on most people. You cannot spin this no matter how much you try.

If your solution is to move towards 100% anarcho capitalism, like the Ron Paul types, well that is only going to help the oligarchs consolidate control of the money supply. It is not going to bring power into the hands of average citizens. It is a con.

Like you noted above, Centralization of control by the elites can happen through ECONOMIC centralization of power, and not just through government.

The more the oligarchs can get the government out of the way, the more consolidation of wealth will occur, and the wealth of the world will be further centralized under their control. This is inevitable.

i'm not necessarily advocating purely anarcho-capitalist ideas i'm interested in any ideas that decentralise power down to individuals

I don't agree with your point above though because it is government that gives the cabals currencies legitimacy. The 'federal reserve' is really a partnership between government and a cartel of private banks

If there was no government then those private banks would have no way of legitimising their currency nor of forcing it on people

Anything that people agree to use can be used as a currency and some people might argue the only real money is gold and silver which is recognised as such globally

But lets consider the problems venezuala are facing right now. The US has been able to hamstring their economy because they are so dependent on oil revenue in order to import their foodstuffs and other essential items that they don't manufacture themselves like nappies and sanitary pads. Also they can't pay their debts to russia because the british freemasons are not letting go of the venezualan gold they have in their vaults in london. You need possession of your own gold!!!

They are failing in their bolivarian revolution because they are not self-sufficient enough. They have neglected their agriculture and their own manufacturing base that is needed to produce essentials. Without that level of self-sufficiency they are at the mercy of international trade. The zapatista farmers have been more successful because they are self-sufficient farmers

I suggest that freedom from external control is not won at the end of a barrel of a gun but at the tip of a spade!
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 19:45 #325

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Interesting video..

John Lansman of Momentum & Corbyns prodigy..wow.

John Landsman is classic crypto Zionist like the rest of these commie Jews..he now seems to have turned on Corbyn & slandering him as antisemite.

So Corbyn bowed down to the Holocaust Remembrance "anti semite = anti Israel" defintion/ international law..& now they are shafting him anyway.

Proves even more, they are all working towards a pro Israel agenda & only Israeli nationalism. World government.

jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/exclusive-jon-lansman-lobbying-labour-to-adopt-full-ihra-with-examples/

electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/labours-jon-lansman-capitulating-israel-lobby
“Hitlerism enables us to convert all Jews to Zionism” - Nahum Sokolow World Zionist president 1933.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 20:21 #326

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Zionism = Israeli Nationalism, nothing more and nothing less. The Globalists are a different group
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 20:41 #327

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Rothschild Zionism.. the supremacist welfare state of Israel is not nationalist its full of migrants, doesnt declare its borders..imperialist in nature, attacking its neighbours & causing misery in the region..pseudo racial bullshit on the excuse of land theft from a mythical book..this is not nationalism its (((Nazionism))).

The American, British & the majority of Western nations are all most definitely owned lock stock by the same Jews behind Israel.

Evidence above & the Israeli lobbyists in the US & UK prove this.

The Epstein paedo scandal, involving both perceived right & left politicans was a Mossad bribery honeypot. Easily proven.

Only a faux faktriot Judeophile would support their tax $ being extorted & excusing imperialist ZOG wars.

Roast has now left the forum, coz shes sick of the blatant paid shills & their attacks as they desperately try to controll the narrative.


“Hitlerism enables us to convert all Jews to Zionism” - Nahum Sokolow World Zionist president 1933.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 20:55 #328

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Rocco wrote:
Zionism = Israeli Nationalism, nothing more and nothing less. The Globalists are a different group

truth-zone.net/forum/cinema-film-youtube/71995-what-lauren-southern-isn-t-telling-you-squatting-slav-tv.html?start=0
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 21:15 #329

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Israel got founded some 70 years ago by Jews, they are the Israelis now. Zionist Jews are Israeli Nationalists. Zionists Jews living in other countries are still Israeli Nationalists. What part do you not understand?
It doesn't mean I like it, it just is
This is not my personal opinion, it's just fact.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 21:40 #330

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Shill debunked himself in the video he posted...waffles on a load of irrelevant shite to the points being made. Like it proves anything?? :loco:

Weak as fuck coz hes paid to post..& his conscience is getting to him obviously. :sokay:
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:08 #331

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Are you talking to yourself now?
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:19 #332

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iamawaveofthesea wrote:
Vancity Eagle wrote:
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i'm not necessarily advocating purely anarcho-capitalist ideas i'm interested in any ideas that decentralise power down to individuals

Getting rid of government does NOT decentralise wealth, it does the opposite, which is why the billionaires mostly advocate for "small government".

The consolidation of wealth is more of a detriment than the consolidation of government power, because the consolidation of government cannot happen without first the consolidation of wealth which is used to corrupt government.
don't agree with your point above though because it is government that gives the cabals currencies legitimacy. The 'federal reserve' is really a partnership between government and a cartel of private banks

If there was no government then those private banks would have no way of legitimising their currency nor of forcing it on people
Anything that people agree to use can be used as a currency and some people might argue the only real money is gold and silver which is recognised as such globally

If there was no currency you would be operating on a gold and silver standard. That again consolidates wealth with the oligarchs, which is why many oligarchs and would like to return to such a system.

Ever since moving off the gold standard, the middle class in America grew exponentially. During the gold standard it was the time of the robber barons who controlled all the wealth and monopolized many sectors of the economy. By getting rid of the gold standard in 1933 the FDR administration was able to spend millions of dollars to put people to work and revive the economy from the great depression. This cannot be done under a gold standard. Under such a system it would just be a bunch of oligarchs hoarding the wealth. The printing of money is what enables more jobs, infrastructure, and a growing of the middle class.

So I dont agree that the Federal Reserve is the greatest threat to the economy, because again it allows economic growth and allows a greater share of the public to be able to get a piece of the pie.

The greatest threat is the consolidation of wealth into fewer and fewer hands.

If you look at all the graphs the greatest periods of wealth inequality in the USA were before 1933, when the US was on the gold standard, Ever since the "new deal" in 1933 once America went off the gold standard and started spending money for jobs and social programs you saw the growth of the middle class and the period of the least amount of wealth inequality. After 1980 when the bankers decided to go for austerity, and deregulation and moving closer towards "free markets" we have seen the wealth inequality go back to pre 1933 levels. Your solutions have been proven false both before 1933 and after 1980.
But lets consider the problems venezuala are facing right now. The US has been able to hamstring their economy because they are so dependent on oil revenue in order to import their foodstuffs and other essential items that they don't manufacture themselves like nappies and sanitary pads. Also they can't pay their debts to russia because the british freemasons are not letting go of the venezualan gold they have in their vaults in london. You need possession of your own gold!!!

this has little to do with the issue we are discussing. It is important to note that the largest private company Empresas Polar in Venezuela is partly owned by an imprisoned opposition leader named Leopoldo Lopez. This company produces many of these products that are scarce in the country, and they are intentionally withholding these products in an act of sabotage.

Venezuela has been under attack and sabotage from within, by the Oligarch class within the country, and from the outside, namely the CIA, US oligarchs, the oil companies colluding with the Saudi's to artificially raise production and lower the prices of oil.

They went from over $100 a barrel to roughly $25. Yes the gold was also confiscated as well, but again none of this has to do with "free markets" vs Bigger government, or the Federal Reserve.
They are failing in their bolivarian revolution because they are not self-sufficient enough. They have neglected their agriculture and their own manufacturing base that is needed to produce essentials. Without that level of self-sufficiency they are at the mercy of international trade. The zapatista farmers have been more successful because they are self-sufficient farmers

I suggest that freedom from external control is not won at the end of a barrel of a gun but at the tip of a spade!

They are failing for a number of reasons.

As far as I have researched there are many staples that are in abundance, it is only certain food items which are scarce, but yes I think they could probably do better in terms of their agricultural output.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:21 #333

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Are you talking to yourself now?

It might as well be for all the credence it's receiving, alcoholism knows no bounds. Sad. Waste. Soon to be destitute. Mentally unstable. Incoherent.
What a waste.
Never mind.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:31 #334

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It's obvious she's a very confused and deeply troubled individual
We should all join hands and pray for this poor soul
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:36 #335

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Sniping biatchhh strikes :facepalm: the lowest most easily triggered fat cunt ive ever come across..what a loser dude. :yupgrin:
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 22:51 #336

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I'm thinking a poll on your mental age porridge, at a guess, nursery school........
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 23:06 #337

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Fattrolly I learn so much from you. What an asset you are to the forum. :notworthy:
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 23:15 #338

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Can you guys get a room or sumting
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 23:29 #339

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This room?
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/71728-psychological-analysis-of-forum-member-porridge.html

Funny how Rags, that other, unemployed student radical leftard would also hide their online status.
Yet accuses others of hit and run sniping.
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Will the real Jeremy Corbyn please Stand Up! 27 Feb 2019 23:45 #340

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Yep, Projecting seems to be a general theme with Leftists
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