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Hitler and the Occult 30 Dec 2015 06:10 #41

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Of course any real researcher into the life of Hitler will find a lot of proof he was targeted and useful to certain groups that the average person thinks he outlawed. He clearly said the things he used were taken from occult practices and they obviously are. One of the things assholes tell me is the old line about him outlawing Masonry. Sure he outlawed any of what he did not want people to know but that does not mean he and his pal Himmler as well as many others did not use these things as much as they could. And they did do it well!

The following link will discuss Franz Bardon and a 99 Lodge Hitler belonged to. A top Rosicrucian Baron of Swiss nationality gave me the book Frabato the Magician. Partially in thanks I re-wrote the book or did a wrap-around including things from my life, it is titled Hitler vs. Frabato and "The Charm of Making". He read it and said I "made Bardon credible". He asked me to teach people at an ashram he had north east of Toronto, I told him I might after I finished writing all I had to do. That took another couple of years and when I went back to his bookstore (Orion Books on Yonge south of Bloor) it was closed.

Bardon is used by AMORC and dragon feeder groups such as Wicca. Clearly this review or article is not very informed but he did ask some fake students who were surprised to find their teacher had ripped Bardon off - such is the way of the world.

www.reddit.com/r/OccultConspiracy/comments/3304p7/who_was_franz_bardon_hermetic_magician_alleged/

For any fool to suggest Hitler had no interest in the occult is tantamount to insanity which there are many who say he was. But if you know Jules Verne introduced people to all these matters BEFORE Hitler was a teenager and his work was all over the continent it is hard to buy, even if Hitler never read his actual books. Needless to say the same can be said about The Secret Doctrine and many other writings of that era.

http://www.innertraditions.com/the-secret-message-of-jules-verne.html

Now it is possible in some way that Hitler could not read and was as stupid as a box of rocks just like the people who take one side or the other without investigating him, but to think people like Eckart and others in the Thule Society had not known everything Verne wrote (And knew or helped Verne) is pure idiocy. You will see this site on Verne says he foresaw Hitler's Rise and Fall.

www.verniana.org/volumes/04/HTML/PIC.html
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Hitler and the Occult 30 Dec 2015 13:05 #42

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Quite a few system minions already filled this forum
with exactly the same distorted reality propaganda,
which is basically anit-German, anti-truth and nothing
but the usual hasbara trash from my pov.


You don't like the search feature, do you?

Instead you are starting one tay-zaxian thread after the other
and fill them with boring copy & paste mainstream trash.

A disgrace for every forum which honestly intends to expose the system lies.

But in the end ... watching your pathetic ilk run amok ...
proves one thing for sure:

The Last Days of the Big Lie are Nigh!

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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Hitler and the Occult 30 Dec 2015 16:59 #43

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Dear P

Yes, I have seen anti-german and anti-Hitler stuff all over this site alongside other prejudices against Jews from people like you who do not know what a Jew is.

Nothing I have said is racist but it does point to your (and others) lack of scholarship.

Perhaps you could quote something I have said which is anti-German or some reason for your invective other than I find you to be an idiot.

The Goethe quote you have is proof of the fact that many German scholars have been occultists like him and his hero Albertus Magnus for centuries. The occult is a good source of study - and Hitler was a person who was proud of this very tradition.

I very early into my arrival here pointed out you could be an Illuminati - due to your quote of Goethe. However, I doubt you are that enlightened, I have developed how he influenced Transcendentalism and the Rhodes Round Table groups which Quigley and I agree is not bad in and of itself - it only needs to be understood by ignorant people. But it is interesting to read the relationship between Hitler and Goethe.

You can almost say Goethe is the founder of fascism.

The link between Goethe and Fascism is easily and often made. In 1940 there were about ten books which stated that Goethe hated Jews, this number grew as the war progressed. This is not surprising: Goethe was indeed imbued with the spirit of his time and therefor he talked rather condescendingly about Jewish people. Goethe was also very fond of the German nature, culture and race. He was often quoted in fascistic literal works. An example is the title of a publication of Shirach in 1942: Goethe an uns, Ewige Gedanken des Grossen Deutschen, Eingeleitet durch eine Rede des Reichsjugendführers Baldur von Shirach ('Goethe to us, eternal thoughts of Great Germany, prefaced by a speech by State Youth Leader Baldur von Shirach'). Shirach ends his essay with the sentence 'Youth of Adolf Hitler! For you too count the eternal words ((of Goethe and Hitler)).' Goethe indeed wrote 'We Germans are superior and have no reason to let us blow around by the wind', and fitted therefore wonderfully well in the National Socialistic way of thinking, something that couldn't be said about two other ruling poets at that time: Heine (a Jew) and Platen (a homosexual). Finally it should be mentioned that even Adolf Hitler quoted Goethe in his controversial Mein Kampf. I'll save you the quotes, you can probably imagine what those were like."

everything2.com/title/Johann+Wolfgang+von+Goethe
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Hitler and the Occult 02 Jan 2016 19:24 #44

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Maybe all this truth is too much to handle for people who NEED to believe in some fairy-tale world with no Bonesmen and godforsaken pedophiles. There is much - MUCH - more!


L. Ron Hubbard Jr. Speaks On His Father

From an interview with L Ron Hubbard Jr.

Ron Jr. says that he remembers much of his childhood. He claims to recall, at six years, a vivid scene of his father performing an abortion ritual on his mother with a coat hanger.

Ron Hubbard Jr. remembers that when he was ten years old, his father, in an attempt to get his son in tune with his black magic worship, laced the young Hubbard's bubble gum with Phenobarbital. According to Ron Jr. drugs were an important part of Ron Jr.'s growing up, as his father believed that they were the best way to get closer to Satan--the Antichrist of black magic.

"In my father's private circle," Ron Jr explains, "there were lots of mistresses. When I was younger, I participated in private orgies with him and three or four other women. His theory was that one has to open or crack a woman's soul in order for the satanic power to pour through it and into him. It got kind of far out, culminating in a variety of sex acts. Dad also had an incredibly violent temper. He was into S & M and would beat his mistresses and shoot them full of drugs."

When asked by a interviewer how this "soul-cracking" worked, L Ron Hubbard Jr said, "The explanation is sort of long and complicated. The basic rationale is that there are some powers in this universe that are pretty strong.

"As an example, Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was. The identical ones. Which, as I have said, stem clear back to before Egyptian times. It's a very secret thing. Very powerful and very workable and very dangerous.

Brainwashing is nothing compared to it. The proper term would be "soul cracking."

"It's like cracking open the soul, which then opens various doors to the power that exists, the satanic and demonic powers. Simply put, it's like a tunnel or an avenue or a doorway. Pulling that power into yourself through another person--and using women, especially is incredibly insidious.

"It makes Dr. Fu Manchu look like a kindergarten student. It is the ultimate vampirism, the ultimate mind f**k. Instead of going for blood, you're going for their soul. And you take drugs in order to reach that state where you can, quite literally, like a psychic hammer, break their soul, and pull the power through.

"He designed his Scientology Operating Thetan techniques (Scientology's secret initiations) to do the same thing. But, of course, it takes a couple of hundred hours of auditing and mega thousands of dollars for the privilege of having your head turned into a glass Humpty Dumpty--shattered into a million pieces. It may sound like incredible gibberish, but it made my father a fortune."

The materials of the Operating Thetan techniques [the Fishman documents] are the reason for the raids mentioned earlier.)

"... Also I've got to complete this by saying that he thought of himself as the Beast 666 Incarnate." Interviewer: "The devil?" Ron Jr: "Yes. Aleister Crowley thought of himself as such. And when Crowley died in 1947 my father then decided that he should wear the cloak of the beast; and become the most powerful being in the universe.

"Scientology is black magic that is spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or at most; a few weeks. But in Scientology it is stretched out over a lifetime and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology - and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works.

"Also you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan. He had a direct pipeline of communication and power with him. My father wouldn't have worshipped anything, I mean. When you think you're the most powerful being in the universe, you have no respect for anything let alone worship.

"... The one super-secret sentence that Scientology is built on is: 'Do as thou wilt. That is the whole of the law.' It also comes from the black magic, from Aleister Crowley. It means that you are a law unto yourself, that you are above the law, that you create your own law. You are above any other human considerations."
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Hitler and the Occult 08 Jan 2016 12:55 #45

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I think most people who will read this will not accept what I am saying here without doing a lot of checking into the facts. http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/pnm/pnm96.htm

I tried sending through an attachment from a fellow researcher who is working on the Kabbalah as derivative from Qabala which is an ancient Verbal Tradition such as kept by the Bairds or bards and the Bardic Tradition for over 25,000 years. He finds my history is supportive and I see his sets of codes in English and other things of great value. The particular piece is 19 pages on just the letter 'E' without getting too verbose or using illustrations, which he has lots of. The Gematria is not a specialty of mine although I am pretty good at pre-history languages and not bad at Green Languages and alchemical allegories in the Jung from Silberer subset derived from alchemy or Hermetics. That has usages in psychotherapy and mind control which they call Neuro Psycho Linguistics and other words and systems they often do not understand; part of it once was called Dream Analysis but they have gone far along the path of programming the mind. Kind of funny how psychiatrists say they do not believe in a soul and yet they use these archetypes from our collective soul.

So as Dion Fortune did say - Kabbalah is 'twisted'. They have built these constructs or dimensional energy designs so that Masons and other 'traveling men' as some call them (astral travels) will think they have stumbled upon a great truth through their 'visions'. After all; who can imagine that elementals and dimensional energies are subject to such design engineering - eh? As Jung says in his forward to The Tibetan Book of the Dead - the Hindu will see Shiva and that hierarchy whereas the Christian will go through the Bardol stages of Afterlife and see the likes of Gabriel then Jesus.'

Here is a correspondence from the fellow researcher mentioned above. His name is Dennis Fetcho or The Fetch.

"No I haven't seen any of your recent stuff. Been travelling a lot these past few months. Spent a month in the hospital in Montreal from an attack in December that left me unable to move for a few weeks due to the multiple fractures suffered. Some of my advisors called the attack a military style hit with the intent to kill. Missed hitting my head on the streets, but the rest of the body took a licking!

Yeah. Had drinks with one of Jordan's top masons while in Amman and he was so impressed that he wanted to confer an honorary degree on me... as he said, "If only it were in my power". I have many ideas in mind and one is to infiltrate Masonry and fuse it with "right thinking" based on my Isisian Code System which I know would be very accepted in such an environment.

It is easy to destroy a paradigm through decay within. I think it is a favored "Jehovian strategy!"... lol"


"The members of the secret F.O.G.C. {from the words of a top Rosicrucian friend this means the Freemasonic Order of the Golden Centurion.} Lodge, greatly feared in occult circles, had gathered for a general meeting in Dresden. The Meeting hall was in a large villa, hidden in the midst of a private park behind a tall hedge and large trees. The Grand Master of the lodge had invited ninety-eight of the ninety-nine members to attend. Long before the meeting commenced, the members had taken their places at two long tables.

All conversation in the hall became muted when the Grand Master entered accompanied by his second-in-command, who acted as Secretary. There was a platform opposite the hall's entrance where the Grand Master sat down behind a desk. He rang a bell and at once there was complete silence. He addressed the brethren of the lodge in an intense penetrating voice:

'My dear brothers, I hereby open today's meeting and I am pleased that you have accepted my invitation. As you know, according to the laws of the lodge a general meeting such as this is only declared in very special cases. You may have already noticed that Brother Silesius is not present. Unfortunately, he has been found guilty of betraying lodge secrets and, as Point Number One of the agenda, we will discuss his sentence. Point Number Two concerns Frabato the Magician, who is becoming so well-known here in Dresden.

'My dear brothers, you all know that Brother Silesius has reached the twenty-fifth degree of initiation in our lodge, and therefore must have been fully aware of his offences. His excessive zeal seduced him to reveal to one of his friends the rituals we use to invoke the elemental beings. According to the laws of our lodge, the breaking of an oath and the disclosure of secrets are punishable by death...

Although the verdict had deeply shaken the Grand Master, he quickly regained his composure and continued in a calmer voice.

'Since Point Number One of the agenda has been settled, let us now deal with the case of Frabato. Some of the brethren present attended his performances and were able to convince themselves of his abilities at close range. It has been proven that he works without the aid of conventional tricks. His experiments succeeded beyond all expectation; yes, they were even better than what many of our own brethren would be able to accomplish. Hermes, one of our more versatile brothers, paid a visit to Frabato in order to test him. He will now tell you of his experience.

The distinguished gentleman who had visited Frabato late at night now rose from amongst the brethren.

'I chose the best astrological hour for my visit to Frabato. I also took into account the correspondences of the elements in order to place myself in a strong initial position. Besides this, I hoped he would be exhausted after the performance he had just given; that would have been to my advantage. I explained the unusual time of my visit by telling him I had a journey to make which could not be postponed. Upon hearing this, Frabato looked at me sharply and then smiled faintly without uttering a word.

'I then painted a very colorful picture of our lodge membership; pointed out its many advantages, and promised him a large sum of money from our funds should he decide to join. But Frabato completely ignored my proposals and started to talk about his journeys, his performances and successes in many cities and towns. He was able to arouse my curiosity so strongly that I almost forgot the reason for my visit.

In time I interrupted him and tried to direct his attention to my offer, He rose and pulled a suitcase out from under his bed saying, 'Now let us have a look at what the Akashic records have to say about your lodge.'

'As you know, my dear brothers, I am well acquainted with occult methods and practices; therefore I was determined to use all my powers to prevent Frabato's experiment. But as soon as the notion entered my mind, he said to me, as if by chance, 'Dear Mr. Hermes, my experiments depend purely upon my will power and cannot be influenced or prevented by you. They will succeed whether you actively appose them or not.'

'I felt that Frabato could see right through me, and surmised that I would have no chance against him, so I watched his preparations intently {Intent is a key attribute to be developed.}. First he cleaned his hands carefully, took a small bottle out of his suitcase, and applied a few drops to his hands. No doubt it was prepared from the essences of certain plants, {Perhaps Belladonna and lilac extract which have long been part of the shamanic medicine bag, mixed with a little blood of the practitioner in order to aid genetic attunement at a solar or molecular and animal state consciousness.} for a pleasant fragrance permeated the room. He then took a small lamp out of a little box and put it on the table. Then, from a second box, he brought forth a glass ball about twenty centimeters in diameter and placed it on a stand on the table. When I asked him what purpose this glass ball served, Frabato laughed and replied, 'If there were any clairvoyants in your lodge, and if they really possessed the knowledge which you attempt or pretend to have, then they would know that this is a magic mirror. This sphere contains a liquid, the particular composition of which requires not only patient work but excellent magical abilities as well.'

'I was enraged; but I tried to control myself, for I felt that nothing remained hidden from this man.

'I am going to show you a film, and then you can judge for yourself whether it is really advantageous to be a member of your lodge,' he continued.

'I watched each of his movements attentively, to be sure that he was not employing any tricks. He rolled up the sleeves of his shirt and sat down beside me in front of the sphere. Then he stretched both his hands towards the glass ball, his fingers slightly splayed. A grayish-white light escaped from the tips of his fingers and was absorbed by the sphere which, a few moments later, began to illuminate everything with a fluorescent ball of light the color of a fiery opal.... I was by that time in some suspense as he said:

'Next we shall look behind the scenes of your esteemed Grand Master's life.... The color of the Grand Master's face changed a few times. When Hermes began to describe some of the more startling events of the Grand Master's life as revealed to him in the magic mirror, the Grand Master discreetly gave him to understand that this was not desirable. Hermes understood and skillfully moved on to more general topics. {The same was done for eight of the top members of the lodge.}"


The last quote is from my book Hitler v. Frabato and "The Charm of Making".
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Hitler and the Occult 10 Jan 2016 13:40 #46

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To be in touch with the spirit world is no easy thing, and Hitler had many reasons in his life to believe he was chosen (Yes, it was more than Eckhart saying he was a messiah). If you were to have a dream and in that dream see yourself dying under the rubble of a building or trench falling on you - I dare say you would pay greater heed to what you had learned about these matters. That dream saved Hitler's life in 1917 not long after he had left five years of study in Vienna - in occult associations set up by St. Germain who had passed the de Medicis spy network and usury monopoly to the House of Rothschild. This is the Benjaminite monopoly written into the Bible.

He was a trance orator and if you ever see this or a person talking in tongues you will know it is a dreamlike state. But many academics will tell you Hitler had no specialness or occult training - which I have to say is the greatest lunacy of all. These academics point to a professor teaching him how to give public speeches. If that professor was this good Germany should have had enough great public speakers to fill a few stadiums or sell some to other parts of the world. Alois Hitler was in Vienna for the same five year period - even closer to the original founding of the schools for occult instruction set up by St. Germain. You can read about it in Wikipedia to some extent.
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It is only recently (after I wrote Who Is A Jew) that genetic testing has confirmed the Khazar amazing conversion of Gentiles (political) to Judaism. I do not really think the seizure of land in Palestine has any grounds in any case. True history has no real nations or religions - those false ideas are convenient to Empire. They set people at each other's throats! But here is vindication of the matter from geneticists at Johns Hopkins University.

truthtellers.org/alerts/Gene...zarTheory.html

I have no difficulty with the academic portrayal of it's own culpability in the Aryan debacle except to say they are not addressing the questions of origins which would unite all white people and could even unite all humans. Here is a little about Gunther and his influence on the expansion of Germany to other ancestral places and land. The whole of wikipedia's article or articles are well worth contemplation in this matter.

"Nazi Führer Adolf Hitler read Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes that influenced his racial policy, and with Nazi backing, Günther attained a position in the anthropology department at the University of Jena in 1932 where Hitler attended Günther's inaugural lecture.[35]

Günther distinguished Aryans from Jews, and identified Jews as descending from non-European races, particularly from what he classified as the Near Asian race (Vorderasiatische) more commonly known as the Armenoid race, and said that such origins rendered Jews fundamentally different from and incompatible with Germans and most Europeans.[36] This association of Jews with the Armenoid type had been utilized by Zionist Jews who claimed that Jews were a group within that type.[37] He claimed that the Near Eastern race descended from the Caucasus in the fifth and fourth millennia BC, and that it had expanded into Asia Minor and Mesopotamia and eventually to the west coast of the Eastern Mediterranean Sea.[36] Aside from ascribing Armenians and Jews as having Near Eastern characteristics, he ascribed them to several other contemporary peoples, including: Greeks, Turks, Syrians, and Iranians.[38] In his work Racial Characteristics of the Jewish People, he defined the racial soul of the Near Eastern race as emphasizing a "commercial spirit" (Handelgeist), and described them as "artful traders" - a term that Gunther ascribed as being used by Jewish racial theorist Samuel Weissenberg to describe contemporary Armenians, Greeks, and Jews.[36] Günther added to that description of the Near Eastern type as being composed primarily of commercially spirited and artful traders, by claiming that the type held strong psychological manipulation skills that aided them in trade.[36] He claimed that the Near Eastern race had been "bred not so much for the conquest and exploitation of nature as it was for the conquest and exploitation of people".[36]"
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Hitler and the Occult 15 Jan 2016 15:51 #48

Any thoughts on this claim Robert?

A secret Vril Society existed in pre-Nazi Berlin

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril

Do you think such an organisation existed and if so who and what did it influence?

Thanks
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It is hard for us to imagine calling something secret which was attended by the elite without any concern of being chastised. Some Royals would kill a commoner and hang out at their club - where a bobby might come to ask if he wanted to talk about it.

Sir Francis Dashwood used Balzac over the door of the Hellfire Club (the saying became Crowley's mantra) which major sex parties carried on by the likes of Ben Franklin who would also sit naked in his bay window watching the madding crowd. The same things go on with more security and less openness today. I suspect Bulwer-Lytton has a direct connection to the Medmenham and Dashwood rituals.

Bulwer-Lytton is called a BULLMOOSE blowhard and never kept anything secret. I read a lot of his work at some early stage of life. I think he was into much of what the Thule Society sought to uncover about ancient cultures some still call Atlantis. It and Morning of the Magicians was important to me and my long-running quest to uncover what Empire and religion destroyed. By the time I read Morning I no longer needed Bullmoose. Le Plongeon, Churchward and others began to become to make some sense despite obvious flaws.

Here is a post mentioning him - and Hitler.

This post says Bulwer-Lytton's Vril society which Hitler was a member of was the first to use the Swastika. Not true - there are about two thousand mandalas known as Swastikas - all over the world for millennia. That in itself shows Brotherhood over this whole world did exist. The Swastika is a powerful mandala for Brotherhood and Peace. Hitler's handler who visited him (dictated parts) while he wrote Mein Kampf in prison is important. That is Karl Haushofer - and Professor Horbiger was also part of this. Haushofer is one of the men in Gurdjieff's book Meetings With Remarkable Men. Gurdjieff gave Haushofer the Swastika design Hitler copied (Hitler was an artist or painter).

aangirfan.blogspot.ca/2013/08...d-zionism.html

This is what I can confirm lead to Hitler saying his duty and given purpose was to unite Europe which the first World War was also part of the plan to achieve. I say it finally happened with the Treaty of Lisbon recently. See threads addressing Hitler and Rhodes here. Therein I document occult projections into their dreams that made them accept a near Messianic role. We are certain Eckhart was part of a Thule Society group and that he heralded Hitler as the new Messiah on the occasion of their first meeting.

The Aquarian Conspiracy | Conspiracy School

www.conspiracyschool.com/node/112

In 1886, Crowley, William Butler Yeats, and several other Bulwer-Lytton proteges ... around the 1877 manuscript "Isis Unveiled" by Madame Helena Blavatsky, ..... Elisabeth Mann Borghese, and some Rhodes Scholars who had originally been .... Neo-Cons' Muse · Synarchy: The Hidden Hand Behind the European Union ...

Churchill said he would make history because he would write it. He won a Nobel Prize for writing it - and his history is as good as any lie in history. Would our culture today be any the worse if some dead man named Hitler wrote the lies? See Campbell's Permanent Human Values.

I have done an extensive search to see if Hubbard was indeed involved with the Anti-Hitler psychic squad including Crowley, Dion Fortune and Ian Fleming. That includes discourse with Crowley's later replacement Barrett. I have only found a minor role he had in US Naval Intel in some podunk Alaskan station and some unpaid tailor bills. It serves Scientology to make it seem he was bigger and badder than he was.
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Hitler and the Occult 15 Jan 2016 17:13 #50

So the bit im confused with is that the likes of truthspoon get contacted to be recruited into these fantastic organisations, also you have lots of research on these organisations, yet I have never come across these organisations :(

Am I not worthy? :mad:

So basically Uncle Adolf was a flunky for who ever, no wonder the fucker was never assassinated :twitch:
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You hit the nail on the proverbial head with that last comment. In fact the German High Command sent Churchill a letter long before the war. Churchill was out of politics almost. They assured Churchill if Chamberlain would just say Britain was going to honour their treaty for the defense of Czechoslovakia the German military would get rid of Hitler. The US had more German backers and Nazis like the British King than those who hated the Nazis (NSDP or whatever). Hitler actually was surprised Britain did not join him. The British Ambassador regularly attended Nazi meetings with Goering.

As to being recruited by those groups - my name alone would guarantee acceptance at the highest level if I knew NOTHING.

Oh and they say they do not recruit, but spoon is right; they do!

By causing wars in Europe of the 20th Century it was hoped that a united Europe would finally result, They had tried it before. Metternich and others were trying to make it happen politically - even in the prior century. A lot of it was going on in the seventeenth century leading up to Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Jacobin or Jacobite causes. It was a needed outcome and some day we might finally see a real peace that could last there.
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You hit the nail on the proverbial head with that last comment. In fact the German High Command sent Churchill a letter long before the war. Churchill was out of politics almost. They assured Churchill if Chamberlain would just say Britain was going to honour their treaty for the defense of Czechoslovakia the German military would get rid of Hitler. The US had more German backers and Nazis like the British King than those who hated the Nazis (NSDP or whatever). Hitler actually was surprised Britain did not join him. The British Ambassador regularly attended Nazi meetings with Goering.

As to being recruited by those groups - my name alone would guarantee acceptance at the highest level if I knew NOTHING.

Oh and they say they do not recruit, but spoon is right; they do!

By causing wars in Europe of the 20th Century it was hoped that a united Europe would finally result, They had tried it before. Metternich and others were trying to make it happen politically - even in the prior century. A lot of it was going on in the seventeenth century leading up to Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Jacobin or Jacobite causes. It was a needed outcome and some day we might finally see a real peace that could last there.

The interesting piece in your post is: Oh and they say they do not recruit, but spoon is right; they do!

What type of people are they looking for, Ex Officers from "them" for example?

Sorry its gone a bit off topic here :emb:
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Hitler and the Occult 15 Jan 2016 20:09 #53

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In the case of Hitler he was a bastard Rothschild (see thread The Use of Bastards). In my case that was true a long time before when Robert the Bruce (aka Robert de Bruge, of the BR branch of Brutti who are BRAGHA and related to the BRX of the de Medicis) made his bastard son the first Baron Baird. That lineage of royals died off with Bonnie Prince Charlie at Culloden but had been in charge of the Oak Island bank for centuries.

However - the name Baird has a far more austere history as a title and a group of esoteric people. In the probable First Reich you had King-Bairds sitting on a pan-tribal Council of Six ruling most of the world in the days of Brotherhood and equality (last seen attempted with the Troubadours in Southern France). Not in line with the neo-Bairds of the London based OBOD today.

In the case of TS I would suspect something quite different. I might even question what he says about who tried to recruit him - was it the Boy Scouts with those headmaster's who loved him so much?
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Hitler and the Occult 15 Jan 2016 23:28 #54

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Robert Baird wrote:
In the case of TS I would suspect something quite different. I might even question what he says about who tried to recruit him - was it the Boy Scouts with those headmaster's who loved him so much?

That's paedo talk.... I wouldn't be surprised to find you're being forced to post your Zio-Mason bullshit here because someone has compromising pictures of you doing something unnatural. Anything goes with you freaks once you get those high priest pervert robes on.....
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Hitler and the Occult 18 Jan 2016 14:17 #55

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I thought I already answered this.

Yes, you explained how wherever you go in your impressive education of people who do not speak English (ESL can be a good job while travelling and often does not require any education whatsoever) you find Masons doing the pedophile thing. I would ask you if they do it in the street, except we both know you are talking from personal experience and you seek this out.
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Hitler and the Occult 19 Jan 2016 13:10 #56

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This is all you need:



You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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Hitler and the Occult 19 Jan 2016 15:47 #57

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Yea, sure and Hitler also told the truth about many other things Masonic which he feared because he was copying and ripping off.

The Masons will tell you P2 and the FOGC are not Masonic. They disown each other due to spiritual - then political - then ideological reasons every other era. Some are druids in the following of Pythagoras. Some will tell you it is the Rosicrucian Great White Craftsmen - or 13 families. Others wil say Martinists, Moors, Black Popes and Illuminati. Thule, Vril, Kuomintang and a hundred others I could name - all at the top of what does not even exist. (or does it?)
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Hitler and the Occult 19 Jan 2016 19:35 #58

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Robert Baird wrote:
It requires work, and other things you do not have, from what I have seen from you.

wwaakkdd does not do "thought," just vitriol.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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Hitler and the Occult 19 Jan 2016 20:14 #59

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bd wrote:
Robert Baird wrote:
It requires work, and other things you do not have, from what I have seen from you.

wwaakkdd does not do "thought," just vitriol.

Great you have been banned from the DIF and now we have to put up with your sanctum onious fing crap one liners.

Just f off nobody likes you.
It was always going to happen!!
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Hitler and the Occult 19 Jan 2016 20:18 #60

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Robert Baird wrote:
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Nothing I have said is racist but it does point to your (and others) lack of scholarship.

Perhaps you could quote something I have said which is anti-German or some reason for your invective other than I find you to be an idiot.

Your arbitrary assignment of "racist" and "bigot" to members of this forum who do not agree with you, reveals your goal of subverting this forum into a politically correct one. It also reveals your lack of scholarship and sophistication.
Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.” ~ Chuang Tzu
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