TOPIC: Hitler and the Occult

wolfy wrote:
just try and imagine how little i care.
should be easy for a small mind to comprehend minuscule amounts.

bd wrote:
Of course you care.

You have had to come here with your tail between your legs begging for some company.

Even after sagging this place off the last time you came here.

Nowhere to run to now though eh?

And if there is , please go there

wolfy wrote:

i pity you, ducky.
what a bitter, pinched up twit you are.
your obsession with me gives me the creeps.
how does it feel to be an internet stalker?

bd wrote:
Yes, I have noticed that. He was one of the very first I called an idiot here.

Do not worry about how many people like you. That is how the people of Germany became sheep as time went on and gangs did their thing.

Robert Baird wrote:
i'm past sixty and quit worrying about what others think of me a long time ago.
I especially care even less what cretins and morons think.

OH, OH.

There will be people here who say you are a sock bot of me.

Such indolence and mendacity threatens humanity and all life on Earth.

You would love Permanent Human Values by Campbell probably. I put it here I think. Of course the SPECIAL NEEDS people chose not to attack it.

They probably even believed the utter propaganda against him which had him being called a Nazi. A professor from my alma mater who was editing a book of mine said Campbell was a Nazi as well as other entirely false crap - after his 14 years of post secondary education, and I hung him up.

Robert Baird wrote: Kinda jumping the gun there aren't you Mr. self importance?

Getting on with things the monumentally uninformed haters have not considered in their weak ego driven existence we have. BTW - are any of the cretins bouncing up and down holding their ass (Hitler had issues) as they remember the black athletes proving him to be a real charming racist? I guess not - they do not read facts.

You will find 'the rest of the story' (TY Paul Harvey - for many entertaining insights.) a little hard to stomach even if your stomach is used to getting nourishing morsels of food, perhaps even more than cabbage and potato. The Potato Famine was created or 'managed' and the Black and Tan taught Hitler who also knew what was happening to the Armenians, how to handle his Jewish 'brothers' - yes, Hitler was a Jew of Rothschild/Benjaminite blood. Please read the Halakah and the Protocols of Sion.

Did you know the KKK was concerned about the Irish when it was formed? Well, maybe the group who was 'concerned' were not called the KKK and were known by other secret names like Knights of the Golden Circle. If you have seen The Gangs of New York by Martin Scorsese with Liam Neeson and Daniel Day Lewis you have seen more than just two great actors doing what they have done in other movies telling truths about the treatment of their people, called 'Ir' or 'lost', from Ir-land. The scroll in the movie Tom Collins talks about a 700 year war against them but it is longer than that. It started with St. Patrick burning their hand drawn and excellent books of laws and culture such as the Senchus Mor and the Book of Kells. These movies give a truer insight to real history and they are not un-connected to every movie done about THE Holocaust despite the focus on Jews in those movies. But that my friends is another story that even Paul Harvey could not talk about.

So, knowing what you saw in Gangs and that both sides of the American Civil War had Irish fighting for them to the tune of them being the largest single constituency - a total over 33% of the combatants; where can you go to learn more? I do not know if this is ancient history or a history not finished yet. It is not understood by people in Ireland on both sides of a similarly managed affair sometimes called a War. It is not understood by those who were leaving the USA for Canada all throughout the 19th Century. In Canada the British had a major force during the Civil War - ready to pounce if and when the time was right, but a Russian Czar acted to stop this plan, and that along with freeing his own serfs by establishing a Parliament and other acts of human decency lead Lord Rothschild to say he would destroy the Romanoffs who are from the same elite family of his own Sion/Battenberg kin. Whoa, Nellie - you say! Yes, a link is coming that will take you right through to the end of the 20th Century World Wars you have heard a great deal about. We are now in World War V by my calculation and extension of what former CIA Director Woolsey said when he and Bill Bennett were telling some truth about things like getting rid of the Mubaraks before it happened not so long before the Arab Spring. As you read this very recent report - I hope you do not get all red in the face from embarrassment about your own part in all of this. I hope you are not going to go Orange!

richardhughes.ca/tag/family-compact/

If you are interested in real history and how the Black people fighting alongside the Phoenicians (Finn is an Irish king of myth connected to those Fenians you just read about) at Carthage, I have much more. They were also involved in the same Brotherhood with the Olmec. Have you heard about the Black Irish and Black Douglases like the man who ran Canada's western regions for the Hudson's Bay Company? Some people wonder what happened to the Moors who ran Iberia and the Spanish Armada people who came to the Emerald Isles - I do not spend much time with minor issues like those.

Be sure your stomach is relaxed and your sphincter tight.



Hitler gets some bad news from the Church of Scientology

Hitler gets some bad news from the Church of Scientology ...




Video for scientology on hitler▶ 4:14



Jan 23, 2009 - Uploaded by LeakedScientologyDox
Now that Tom Cruises' film Valkyrie is now on general release I thought this would be a good time to revive ...

Thank you very much for another precious, enlightening thread, Robert.
Great work! Unique and in fact a revelation to mankind which is by no
means to be underestimated.







The memory of this video suddenly crossed my mind while reading ...
do you think this is of any importance to your ingenious work?


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Even P and P brain should have the hubris to laugh at that.

And to connect the two of them we have the Goethe (Bavarian Illuminati) quote and the following from Arnie.

Why Scientology calls its critics "Nazi's" - Lermanet.com

www.lermanet.com/scientology-and.../scientology-calls-critics-nazis.htm


I speculate that Scientology follows Hitler's advice, from "Mein Kampf": "If you repeat an idea often enough, people will believe it. Repetition, repetition, repetition" ...

To further illustrate connections between haters who sleep and lie down with each other for ego and monetary gain we have a Hollywood lawyer and his uninformed clients coming to bat for dictatorial regimes like $cientology while Scientology says the persecution of the Jews happened and was unwarranted despite our resident SPECIAL NEEDS people (I include Peacenik) groping to hit the like button for each other's egotistical pleasure.

This article was in George Magazine about 20 years ago. Scientology (CCHC or some other branch) has come out against Hitler in a big way because it in fact uses and followed his occult practices. They do have some good points in their research into the psychiatrists and educators who supported the Nazi cause. This article is correct about orthodox Jewish dictatorial or enslaving practices as well. Gareth (sic) Knight is a $cientology author on Kabbalah and they use those practices as best they can (Not really very well because they are immoral and cannot raise much energy). The people of Israel have only recently taken the elite Jewish kabbalistic types off the public feed trough.

"The members of a controversial and little-understood group, the
Church Of Scientology Protesting "the invidious discrimination against
Scientologists the missive concluded, "This organized oppression is beginning to
sound familiar ... like the Germany of 1936 rather than 1996."

Kohl's petitioners are not Scientologists. Indeed, many are Jewish. So is
Bertram Fields, the powerful Hollywood lawyer who drafted the letter, solicited
the signatures, and paid $56,700 of his own money for the ad space. Fields, who
has represented Dustin Hoffman, Michael Jackson, and Warren Beatty, says he got
the idea when he learned that a German youth group was promoting a boycott of
Mission: Impossible in the summer of 1996 because its star, Tom Cruise, is a
Scientologist. Cruise happens to be Fields's client, as is another Hollywood
powerhouse and Scientologist, John Travolta.

It is unclear how much the signatories, 12 of whom are Fields's current clients,
know about Scicntology, Germany's position on the group, or even the contents of
the letter before they signed it. According to Hollywood sources, it's common
practice among industry types to ask friends to lend their names to literature
about a cause, sight unseen. (One signer, director Constantin Costa-Gavras,
publicly retracted his name from the letter after a more "carefull reading.")
But even Fields doesn't seem to want to peer too deeply into the controversy
When a German reporter told Fields that Scientology was "dictatorial," he
dismissed the charge, saying that "Orthodox Judaism is dictatorial, the Catholic
Church is dictatorial." He insists "these people are being discriminated against
radically for something they believe in. I'm not advocating Scientology, and I
don't know a hell of a lot about it. I know that the two people I know [Cruise
and Travolta] who are in it have really straightened out their lives."

But why such a public (and expensive) show of support? "This is the way you buy
goodwill in Hollywood," says one insider. "You take out ads." Indeed, according
to the source, Fields's motives are obvious to any industry veteran. "Just look
at the grosses of Cruise and Travolta's movies. They're the most successful
stars in Hollywood. It's what they said in Watergate: Follow the money. Or let
me put it to you this way. Fifty-six thousand dollars is a miscellaneous billing
for the legal bills that Cruise and Travolta generate."

What has become an international incident involving celebrities developed out of
an ongoing, highly contentious debate that has recently included verbal tussles
between the U.S. and German governments. The accusations against Germany first
came to the attention of Americans in another ad campaign in the New York Times,
this time paid for by the Church of Scicntology. Readers of the Paper of Record
were greeted by a series of ten full-page ads (at a cost of $60,000 each) last
fall, decrying a return to jackbooted thuggery in Germany PRACTICING RELIGIOUS
INTOLERANCE, read the first ad's headline, an eagle and swastika insignia
menacing below. "You may wonder why German officials discriminate against
Scientologists," the ad stated. "There is no legitimate reason, but then there
was none that justified the persecution of the Jewish people either." The ads
recalled how Jewish children, teachers, and workers were stigmatized in the
first days of the Third Reich. Today, the ads charged, Scientologists were
experiencing a similar fate-losing jobs, being harassed, and being excluded from
civil service."

Great comment
Thank you very much!!!


P.S. The colour is so unique and artfully ingenious.

Of course I have read the $cientology outreaches from CCHR (just one fake way of generating money by pointing fingers at others in the Nazi manner of ignorance). I agree with many of the opinions ex[pressed about psychiatry - and of course psychiatry was a very bad thing for a very long time with almost nothing of value (so it was easy for them to produce a history with Fichte and other early authors looking bad to outright horrific).

And if I can see Scientology as a mental health self help promotion or scam you can be sure others do as well. Diamondgeezer's post with the doctor whose son committed suicide with their HELP is a good example.

But here is a lower form of expose that probably would appeal to the likes of P and P brain - a VIDEO!!! Note the cute use of amalgam racist words and jargon to appeal to the truly or monumentally ignorant who either cannot now think or never could.

I just finished an investigative report on Scientology's CCHR and
how they are just as bad as the Psychiatrists that they are against.
Both Ziontology and Psychiatry are used to throw out Human Gentiles
in America. This is a must see video that has real footage outside of
the
CCHR headquarters in Hollywood and also outside the Hollywood
CNN building. You might be surprised that America is being taken
over by a super race of Nazi scumbags and that they are throwing out
Human Gentiles under the guise of Mental Illness. The world must
wake up against the ZionNakki race.
U2B address:

Look me up! I have the best sites dealing with the ZionNakki
invasion of America. If you think its science fiction, think again.

From the ZionNakki Area of LA and Hollywood,

Wayne E. Manzo, PhD
The most censored and hated man in America!

Robert Baird wrote:

Never heard of him .......







Very interesting!!!!

I am glad that you are now on TZ to enlighten us ignorant sheople.


Thank you very much, bodacious Robert Baird.


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No I did not write that. Can't read - no surprise there.

But these words apply to how you operate to obfuscate and lie, They also apply to what good people must do in order to stop the ignorance you represent under false names like right wing or as you whine to Novum about how I am allowed to refute you even though you already have an area to share your venom and hate with other SPECIAL NEEDS people, while wielding the sword you proudly proclaim and which you need to use because your wit and wisdom is less than that of a child.

Alfred North Whitehead said a lot of things of great importance to society - few have yet been acted on. We are all responsible for making change and guilty evermore when presented with wisdom we do not act upon. He said it this way.

"Ideas won't keep, something must be done about them."

“I have suffered a great deal from writers who have quoted this or that sentence of mine either out of its context or in juxtaposition to some incongruous matter which quite distorted my meaning, or destroyed it altogether."

"It does not matter what men say in words, so long as their activities are controlled by settled instincts. The words may ultimately destroy the instincts. But until this has occurred, words do not count. - from Science and the Modern World"

"It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious."

www.quotes.net/authors/Alfred...th%20Whitehead

Robert Baird wrote:
It's all part of the Robert turd foundation. It's a family affair. Evidently the Entire Baird family is involved in it it's creation? Here's his brother.

Notice below, his brother is listed as one of the founding patrons.

Gord Baird in Scientology's Published Service Completion Lists

The following 7 individual completions for Gord Baird appear in official Scientology publications:
Gordon Baird L 11 NEW LIFE RUNDOWN Source 87 1993-06-01
Gordon Baird HUBBARD PRO TR COURSE Auditor 304 2003-01-01
Gordon Baird HUBBARD PRO UPPER INDOC TR COURSE Auditor 304 2003-01-01
Gordon Baird SPECIALTY RUNDOWNS Auditor 305 2003-02-01
Gordon Baird HUBBARD PROFESSIONAL METERING COURSE Auditor 307 2003-04-01
Gordon Baird DIANETICS: THE ORIGINAL THESIS COURSE Advance 199 2008-11-01
Gordon Baird BASICS COURSES COMPLETIONS: BOOK COURSE, BOOK & LECTURES COURSE. Advance 200 2009-03-01

Note: The dates listed above are the approximate publication dates of the magazines, which may be weeks or months later than the actual date the service was completed.
Gord Baird in Scientology's Publications

The following 2 mentions of Gord Baird appear in official Scientology publications:
Gordon & Pat Baird Founding Patrons Impact 109 2004-09-01
Gordon & Pat Baird Patrons Impact 114 2006-09-01..

Here's RRRRRRRRobert

Robert Baird in Scientology's Published Service Completion Lists

The following 8 individual completions for Robert Baird appear in official Scientology publications:
Robert Baird L 10 Source 55 1987-01-01
Robert Baird L 11 Source 55 1987-01-01
Robert Baird L 11 EXPANDED Source 55 1987-01-01
Robert K. Baird NEW OT VI HUBBARD SOLO NOTS AUDITING COURSE Source 73 1990-11-01
Robert Baird ABILITY CONGRESS COURSE Freewinds 16 1995-06-01
Robert Baird OT DEBUG SERVICE Freewinds 16 1995-06-01
Robert Baird ABILITY CONGRESS COURSE Freewinds 19 1996-04-01
Robert Baird OT DEBUG SERVICE Freewinds 19 1996-04-01:

www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/robert-baird.html

And if we knew the names of the remainder of his family it would show something similiar.

It's all in the family folks

t suspect you did get my younger brother there - that donation was for Scientology after they caused Pat a near heart attack and broke the marriage up.

But his courses are far more extensive than that - you would have to go way back to before the infiltration of Captain Robertson as I have already said. Sea Org data is probably not available as well, they get those people who are fanatics to just give everything - no need for courses - they RUN them.

But there is something relevant that is worth discussion in a thread where we have P contributing what she calls right-wing attitudes (P may not be a woman but I think s/he/it is). CCHR has presented proof (they can get proof of any position in the field of psychiatry because there is no real science involved - which they also say) that government has targeted conservatives or right-wingers like their once best man Rush Limbaugh (druggie too).

I will post it - I do not expect anyone who has made comments on this thread (perhaps BD or E) will actually read it. If there is any cogent input we should start a thread on the abuse of psychiatry.

CCHR is like Narcanon and other Scientology scams or outreaches. They say they do great things in [prisons but I am sure they lie. In the matter of mental health they are creating problems and making people who have money give it to them, through brainwashing of various kinds and modalities including appeals to alternative medical approaches which have some merit. The meritorious elements get support only as far as it helps promotes the illusion of real results. In the San Francisco area school system my younger brother was associated with teaching Scientology principles to students. It is a feeder group giving Scientology credibility, the same is true for allergists or nutritionist approaches they have good people to support and in return those people say good things about Scientology. I have been intimately involved with people who were helped by Scientology in getting off drugs through sweating, saunas and hard work. One person thought it was something they might have made her work six years too long at, as she was spending time every day doing chores for Scientology. She had nothing good to say about it other than she had been using marijuana and some harder drugs and no longer was into that lifestyle.

There is no doubt Scientology sells a program in psychiatry that has value to consider. If you believe they produce better results than other approaches I beg to differ. Drs. Breggin and Cohen (authors of The Pill May Be Your Problem) are the source of the class action suit against psychiatry that got damaged by the passing of Patriot Act II. Scientology claimed it was their law suit, and they certainly joined the class action.

Here is CCHR on the web with a good article to start a real evaluation of the matter if you wish to fairly examine the matter.

"By Beverly Eakman, Author, Educator
Former Editor-In-Chief, NASA’s Newspaper (JSC)
October 30, 2009

It’s zero hour in America. Do you know where your country went?

Now that America’s education system and parenting “experts” have brainwashed a generation of now-grown schoolchildren-cum-parents into believing that what we once called personality quirks, character flaws and moral issues are, in essence, mental disorders, politicians have taken the ball and run with it. Law enforcement agencies and the judicial system are in the process of adopting Stalinist and Mao-inspired methods of controlling dissidents at home.

Only a few, short years ago, what was held up as independent thinking, speaking one’s mind, and robust dialogue is now decried as a prelude to terrorism. Our nation’s leaders are pulling off communist-style thought-control by implying that any words uttered in print or out loud that run contrary to “accepted wisdom” (and that can change in a “New York Minute”) is the result of mental illness.

Don’t believe it? Well, “google” this:

A recent report out of Missouri labeled “not-for-public-distribution” (circulated anonymously by a shocked and patriotic police officer) specifically describes supporters of the three presidential candidates as potential “militia”-influenced terrorists and instructs police to be on the lookout for bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with, of all things, the Constitution—such as “Campaign for Liberty.” Even a few Members of Congress were implied to be security risks themselves (potential domestic terrorists). The document, entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” (February 20, 2009), emanated from the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC), one of several so-called “Fusion Centers” established by the federal government around the country.

Most people are probably not familiar with the term “Fusion Center.” These were originally intended to allow local and state law-enforcement agents to work alongside federal officers after 9/11 so that terrorist-related activities could be identified, then pounced upon by all three entities at once. “Fusion Center” offices, therefore, incorporate local, state and federal law-enforcement personnel, a strategy which, prior to the launching of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), was deliberately avoided to maintain independence and preserve impartiality. Predictably, these Centers got out of hand and fell into what is referred to as “mission creep.”

Mission creep is defined by Wikipedia as:


“the expansion of a project or mission beyond its original goals, often after initial successes…. t is usually considered undesirable due to the dangerous path of each success breeding more ambitious attempts, only stopping when a final, often catastrophic, failure occurs. The term was originally applied exclusively to military operations, but has recently been applied to [other] fields, mainly the growth of bureaucracies.”

Ongoing improvements in tracking and monitoring of opinions via magazine subscriptions, charitable gifts, school and household surveys, and other computerized data collection has made political prediction on hot-button topics that much easier to secure. “Predictive computer technology” (already a staple of school assessment testing) entails analysis by behavioral psychiatrists with concurrent degrees in statistics. This same capability has greatly accelerated mission creep among the nation’s Fusion Centers.

The PBS News Hour (not known for its conservatism or, for that matter, for being “alarmist”) recently reported on how political dissidents in China are forced into to psychiatric hospitals Video: Chinese Dissidents Committed to Mental Hospitals. In the segment, aired September 13, 2009, the manner in which complainants (called petitioners), whistleblowers and outright protesters are “managed” bears an eerie resemblance to a policy shift right here in America. States’ rights (or the 10th Amendment) are among the first casualties of a top-down, federal effort to minimize, and eventually suppress, dissent.

Psychopolitics is as the art and science of asserting and maintaining dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers, bureaus, and “the masses,” via various techniques ranging from “group dynamics,” “cognitive dissonance,” “de-sensitization,” “super-imposing alternate value structures,” “artificial disruption of thought,” the Delphi Method, the Tavistock Technique, to negative or positive “reinforcement.” If you don’t recognize any of these, don’t feel too badly, because they are not part of any school curriculum. The people who created them are, for the most part, unknown in our own country, except among those groomed by extremist political organizations to become “change agents,” professional agitators or “provocateurs.” The pioneers of psychopolitics, including attitude prediction, include individuals such as Wilhelm Reich, Kurt Lewin, Theodor Adorno and Erich Fromm (Germany); A. S. Neill, A. J. Oraje and John Rawlings Rees (Great Britain); Antonio Gramsci (Italy); Anatoly Lunacharsky and Georg Lukacs (Russia); G. Brock Chishom and Ewen Cameron (Canada); and the U.S.’s own Ralph Tyler and Ronald Havelock.

Although psychopolitics originated under Vladimir Lenin as “political literacy” and “polytechnical education” in the old Soviet Union, and was carried to the free world via Peter Sedgwick (1934–1983) a translator for Victor Serge, author of PsychoPolitics and a revolutionary socialist activist as well as a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain, the term psychopolitics found its way into the American lexicon via Isaac Asimov, a master of the sci-fi genre. But psychopolitics is no science fiction adventure, and never was.

By the 1970s, a slew of enablers were establishing a system of numerical codes for so-called mental disorders that would accommodate computerization. This lent legitimacy to what would otherwise have been considered “questionable illnesses.” The goal was to ensure that medical professionals, the media and government accepted these terms as they might “diabetes,” thereby ensuring that the mental illnesses so codified would remain indelible, beginning with the youngest and most vulnerable.

The long-term game plan of psychopolitics is the conquest, usually by proxy, of enemy nations through “mental healing,” better known as “re-education.” This entails what we know as “encounter groups,” extensive self-disclosure surveys and peer pressure to conform. If all that doesn’t work, if certain individuals are still not amenable, then the first step is marginalization as “mentally unbalanced.”

Example: A study by the National Institute of Mental Health and the National Science Foundation, funded by U.S. taxpayers to the tune of $1.2 million, announced on 1 August, 2003, that adherents to conventional moral principles and limited government are mentally disturbed. NIMH-NSF scholars from the Universities of Maryland, California at Berkeley, and Stanford attribute notions about morality and individualism to “dogmatism” and “uncertainty avoidance.” Social conservatives, in particular, were said to suffer from “mental rigidity,” a condition which, researchers assert, is probably hard-wired, condemning traditionalists to a lifelong, cognitive hell, with all the associated indicators for mental illness: “decreased cognitive function, lowered self-esteem, fear, anger, pessimism, disgust, and contempt” (Jost, J. T., J. Glaser, et al. (2003). “Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition.” Psychological Bulletin 129(3): 339-375 online at terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/conservatism.html)."

www.cchrint.org/2009/10/30/were-all-in-china-now-new-initiative-launches-police-state-under-guise-of-mental-health/

Robert Baird wrote:


Speculation is the correct term for the majority of your mass posts,
but you could also call it artful disinfo.



Would you please kindly provide the exact source of the original quote, Bob?
And the full context please.

Thanks.


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Dear P

Why say I wrote something when you know better, and when it mirrors your quote from Goethe the Bavarian Illuminati founder. Could your disinfo issue have you turned around?

Kinda like you and the rest of your haters saying you are right wing when you do not even know what any wing is. You see right wing is actually productive and creative and not averse to open systems that can achieve great things. It has no need to engage in hatred or any energy depleting agenda such as militarism, racism and even nationalism.

You guys act as if Hitler was a great leader but after a couple of good things all his productivity was militaristic enslaving to a sick cause and stealing assets from the weaker or minorities in the population - cowardice and bullying being the main moral tone along with anti-intellectualism and spiritual controls.