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Community Guide and Rules 13 Oct 2015 21:41 #1

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I am still waiting for Novum's answer


truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/63638-forum-guidelines.html?start=300#180807


1. for this sub-forum has to have rules and guidelines and the original ones
were quite reasonable and made a lot of sense to me.


2. I won't be able to be a mod

a) 24/7
b) for litigable subjects.


Thus I suggest to give Orangeaid and Zorro mod status, too, on this tiny sub-forum,
for the "right-wing" (systemspeak) minority deserves to have a 'retreat' with adequate representation,
if this libertarian experiment is to be successful in the sense of balance and justice.




NO MEMBER WAS HARMED, BANNED OR WORSE DURING THE MAKING OF THIS THREAD!



(This thread is reserved for mod messages only)
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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 13 Oct 2015 21:59 #2

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Thus I suggest to give Orangeaid and Zorro mod status, too, on this tiny sub-forum,
for the "right-wing" (systemspeak) minority deserves to have a 'retreat' with adequate representation,
if this libertarian experiment is to be successful in the sense of balance and justice.
.

If you want to nominate mods, I need to know they are ok with being mods before its enabled, so get your nominees to let me know. :up:
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I trust in their ability to decide and speak out for themselves.

Thanks for your response, Novum and if you can spare the time and effort ....
truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/63638-forum-guidelines.html?start=300#180807


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
I trust in their ability to decide and speak out for themselves.

Thanks for your response, Novum and if you can spare the time and effort ....
truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/63638-forum-guidelines.html?start=300#180807


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Ive responded to that. Rules tab amongst the black forum tabs, its always been there. :yup:
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Community Guide and Rules 13 Oct 2015 22:33 #5

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I don't know how I could have missed this ... truth-zone.net/info/terms-and-policy-docs/community-guide-lines.html


Thanks, Novum!




COMMUNITY GUIDELINES


Created on Thursday, 03 May 2012 18:08
Last Updated on Thursday, 23 October 2014 08:39
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Truth Zone Website General Community Standards Guidelines



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Without having read the full text in detail yet, I think this might be a basis for our rules on this sub-forum.


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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 14 Oct 2015 08:53 #6

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I am glad to see that Orangeaid and Zorro now have mod status, too!


The three of us - responsible for this sub-forum - are to discuss the rules and guidelines,
publicly or via pm, if you please, for we need to agree on a common line dealing with this
basic requirement for civilized, respectful and reasonable communication.


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 14 Oct 2015 09:05 #7

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Technically its a 'category' ... just saying. And that is the kunena terminology for it also.

Its the same as all the other categories, it has the same status in terms of functionality.

It just happens to be nestled under 'General' in terms of aesthetics because a) its probably the most relevant place and b) there may be more categories added in the future and the forum face would get very long! (its already long :hahano: )

And yes you guys make the rules for this one... if other members disapprove, well theres plenty of other categories where its same as usual.
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Community Guide and Rules 14 Oct 2015 09:18 #8

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Can we have a place here where we can discuss this subject in private?




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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 14 Oct 2015 09:44 #9

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Can we have a place here where we can discuss this subject in private?

Yes, I'll give the 3 of you (the mods for this cat) a moderation discussion category. You will see it when ive done it, will get on it now shouldnt take long.
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Community Guide and Rules 14 Oct 2015 10:03 #10

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At the bottom of the forum.
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Community Guide and Rules 19 Jan 2016 20:02 #11

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Did you also agree on accepting the worst of the dif pit trolls on TZ,
those who were a plague to several of us there and responsible for
bannings as well,
and on completely disregarding the community guidelines
when DG and Frog were still here?




...... it's like trying to cook in a cockroach-infested kitchen.
like trying to start a conversation in a room filled with screaming children.

go ahead and look up worthy older threads. there are plenty. but the forum is getting a overload of trash.
imagine a bunch of people enjoying a space outdoors where they can leave their thoughts, books, ideas,
easily accesible, and all of a sudden somebody on a hourly rate overloads the field with tonnes and tonnes
of rock, sand, dust and trash with a excavator. you now have to dig into the pile of trash to get to the material
at hand. and whilst digging, a new load of trash arrives. and more. and more.

are you going to leave your precious thoughts and ideas there anymore? no. it has no use anymore, since the
trash is being put their constantly. the entire scene now reeks and stinks of bs, miles (pages) long. flooding
the scene. flooding the site. destroying it.

disinfo agents at work. in total freedom. boasting in their delusional retarded minds. with joy.

this website only recently was resurrected out of the ruins of before. Ruins, which were caused, EXACTLY because
of people like RB. Like DDT. Same trash. same idiocy. Finally resulting in the termination of the old board.

guess what; by allowing this to continue, you allow this board to die again, to the hands of these sick, perverted,

distorted minds
.


Source: vigilantcitizen.com/forums/Thread-Why-is-Robert-Baird-hated-dislike-so-much #53






What about giving the online persona RB a category of his own,
as you appreciate what he is doing so much and a few of the
resident trolls are also his fans,
so that he might stop spamming the whole forum with his copy & paste
egocentric, sectarian psycho mindf*ck?


Where is mario, btw? Can we swap them?
Imagine both of them in action ....


The forum looks like a dumping ground
not only because of RB
and you seem to enjoy it.



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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
those who were a plague to several of us there and responsible for
bannings as well

Bannings wont happen here because people are having heated debates... TZ and DIF are two entirely different sites. There are plenty of sites out there that are much more free than DIF, you dont need to use DIF as some kind of template and then assume the same thing will happen here, it wont.

That goes both ways though. Demands to ban members wont be indulged (unless there is a VERY good reason)

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
What about giving the online persona RB a category of his own,
as you appreciate what he is doing so much and a few of the
resident trolls are also his fans,
so that he might stop spamming the whole forum with his absurd trash?

There is plenty of forum cyber real estate here, people know how to use scroll buttons and how to not click on things.

As ive said previously, most people use Recent or Latest Posts to browse the forum anway, so posts will appear newest first regardless of where they are made.

As for what goes on at Vigilant Citizen, well your cherry picking amuses me. :larf: Again two entirely different sites. If you like VC well you can post there, it would be interesting at the least and i very much doubt you would be satisified there either. :larf: :coffee:
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Cherry picking?


disinfo agents at work. in total freedom. boasting in their delusional retarded minds. with joy.

this website only recently was resurrected out of the ruins of before. Ruins, which were caused, EXACTLY because
of people like RB. Like DDT. Same trash. same idiocy. Finally resulting in the termination of the old board.

guess what; by allowing this to continue, you allow this board to die again, to the hands of these sick, perverted,

distorted minds.





In a nutshell you invalidated the community guidelines.

No reponse to whether DG and Frog agreed.

Alright. In the end it is your place now.

Nothing more to say.




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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 19 Jan 2016 20:59 #14

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Ive something to say

Faack off and start your own forum if you dont like it here. :facepalm:

Then we can compare your forum with TZ, SZ, DI and Vigilant Citizen, thats if you get any posters :wissl:





Your "wingman" made the forum ready for take-over
by mainstream propagandists, psycho trolls and bullies
since quite some time already. So your rant does not
come as a surprise, spokesman.



:up:

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Cherry picking?

Yes, because you are also critical of posters who are prolific there.

So you're cherry picking parts of VC that you want replicated here, but id safely assume there are other parts of it you would dislike, infact i doubt you could be there for long and not get into scraps with people, accuse them of being underhanded, and begin to make demands on the admin. :larf:

So that is what i meant by cherry picking when you attempt to use posts on another forum to justify your position on a specific topic.

As for guidelines, forum ettiquette, all of that associated stuff... its a subjective matter. For example you yourself accuse forum opponents of things with no evidence to back it up, you arent always polite, and just because you dont frequently use swear words (you have told people to f-off but you're not prolific with it) .. does not mean you dont have your ways to antagonise people. And im not the only one to say these things.

As for past mods and admins.. well you couldnt wrap DG around your little finger despite making demands, i remember. Like conflicts with sketti for example, did DG ban her when she was riding you? No, he didnt want to. So put the rose coloured way-back machine glasses away.

He did his best in difficult situations to allow everybody to have their say here. Its what he wanted. He wasnt even pro NSDAP for example either, you know this, if anything he feared it dominating the place. Yet he still believed that people should be able to have their say regardless and defended their right to say it.

And Frog, well frog was never a moderator. He said this from the beginning. He was never interested in dealing with the ins and outs of forum behaviour and conflicts. Still isnt. And he is still around despite what you think, he even logged in the other day with his admin account His tag might show moderator but that was simply for technical reasons, so he could access all the buttons on the front end when logged in. He did not want to moderate.
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
this website only recently was resurrected out of the ruins of before. Ruins, which were caused, EXACTLY because
of people like RB. Like DDT. Same trash. same idiocy. Finally resulting in the termination of the old board.

I dont know what went down on VC like some of you, or know what goes down there.

But i can speak of this place, and say i find it absurd the notion that RB posts would result in termination of the board.

Its a similar situation to people mentioning DIF bannings and attempting to use that to justify their push to remove certain posters. This is not DIF, or VC.
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# 14


Knowing about the gag laws and prosecution of "thought criminals"
and that free speech does not exist in my country and many others
makes your outright derision even more morally reprehensible.


I did not come to this forum to be silenced by the very same online
personas like in the dif pit and I did not stay here in good and bad
times, investing my energy and lifetime working on subjects that
are crucial for the situation in my country and worldwide, to experience
exactly the same like everywhere else on mainstream boards.


This is what DG promised would not happen.


You are allowing it in a very cunning and subtle way while
trying to wash your hands of what you are tolerating,
even welcoming and enjoying: the disruption and
mass spamming of all non-pc subjects by obvious pc trolls.




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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Community Guide and Rules 19 Jan 2016 21:50 #18

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You can use TOR to make a forum, got nothing to do with being in Germany :wissl:
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Community Guide and Rules 19 Jan 2016 21:51 #19

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I dont see anyone silencing you.

You even have your own category where you are the only moderator. It may as well be your personal blog if you wish it to be, you control the flow there completely.

DG promised, as i recall, that you have the right to be here and have your say.

He did not promise that opposing views would be dealt with, removed, and so on.
1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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Community Guide and Rules 20 Jan 2016 02:27 #20

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
this website only recently was resurrected out of the ruins of before. Ruins, which were caused, EXACTLY because
of people like RB. Like DDT. Same trash. same idiocy. Finally resulting in the termination of the old board.

I dont know what went down on VC like some of you, or know what goes down there.

But i can speak of this place, and say i find it absurd the notion that RB posts would result in termination of the board.

Its a similar situation to people mentioning DIF bannings and attempting to use that to justify their push to remove certain posters. This is not DIF, or VC.

Hi Novum,

I realize you have a lot on your plate and it's not always easy being fair to everyone on this board, and there is always some unpleasant decisions to be made. But I wish to respectfully remind you, when PFIZIPFEI goes, so goes orangeaid, and zorro, and possibly even lizzy. Between the four of them I have witnessed some of the most thought provoking and informative posts on this forum.

Now I am not going to tell you Robert Baird's posts would result in termination of the board. And as you know I have never called for anyone's expulsion on this forum. I do however, wish to point out, when PFIZIPFEI, orangeaid, zorro and lizzy, are absent Robert Baird and his ink proliferate like mice on this forum.

Right now, IMO, you can go to... truth-zone.net/forum/paranormal/66234-hitler-and-the-occult.html?start=60

and see Robert Baird conversing with one of his socks named, "BD". It's ridiculous, and I think this is just the beginning. The point is, I don't think PFIZIPFEI, orangeaid, zorro and lizzy, would allow this w/o calling him out on it? With PFIZIPFEI, orangeaid, zorro and lizzy gone who will call out RB? You're only one person and cannot be everywhere.
Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.” ~ Chuang Tzu
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