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TOPIC: HOAXBUSTERS vs "hoaxer-movement"

What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 28 Dec 2016 12:18 #41

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
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Pfizipfei, your question "what is the mother of all hoaxes"?

Several angles to answer that:
- in terms of profitability/money laundering the Global Warming (1+ TRILLION dollar """market""")
- in terms of fearmongering the Nuke Hoax
- looking at the """(((legal)))""" angle; the Holocaust Story
- the easiest to see: Sandy Hook
- the most impacting on innocent children and adults-in-awe; Space Travel Hoaxes
- the silliest; """accidents""" as Titanic, Costa Concordia and GermanWings
- ideologically most """successful"""; Jesus Christ was (for) real


So depends on how you define "mother". There are many to choose from and those choices are subjective.



www.dict.cc/?s=the+mother+of+all



So you can't make up your mind?



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Your link at "dict.cc" doesn't give a definition either.

P: "What food do you like most?"
G: "That depends; when it's cold a nice good soup, when I am really hungry a good steak, in the afternoon but not for breakfast a nice 'Matje' (herring) and after dinner a homemade tiramisu"
P: "Oh, so you can't make up your mind"

And then denying the existence of autism. :larf:
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 28 Dec 2016 12:49 #42

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Seems pfiz thinks autism is a jew creation for people who can see through what she would deem to be 'system indoctrination' :dunno:

if she does indeed think that (correct me if im wrong) .. then clearly she hasnt been around the varying degrees of autism, particularly the more extreme of the spectrum. They cant even take care of themselves and function independently.. but of course if you are pfiz, then their diagnosis is because of jew-dicine that labels their "ability" a disorder. . :wissl:
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 28 Dec 2016 15:13 #43

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Get yourself informed about what I really think (not that you would not know)
on the thread which started in "vent" because you did not like my views
on your Autism thread:



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:right: truth-zone.net/forum/the-medical-establishment/64970-autism-another-invented-disease.html?start=20#146880


The whole thread is quite interesting, because the same old same old, as I only noticed now.

Thanks for allowing me to express my views under given circumstances.


novum wrote:
Well what is the mother of all hoaxes to you?

You go first. :)


I said it already. Implicitly.
Truth is prohibited to some of us, as you pointed out derisively.

So to you the mother of all hoaxes is the "Two party paradigm".

@ll

What's the mother of all hoaxes to you?

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 31 Mar 2017 10:57 #44

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Today I'd like to share my current perception of this issue and I hope you will be able and willing
to understand my words literally and with a pinch of humour.


Surely everbody knows an aggressive, militant former smoker.

Some "truthers", who not so long ago were "believers", at one point seem to become militant, aggressive "post truthers",
at least this is how they behave.

What is a "post truther"?

A "post truther" is someone who finally managed to get his/her head around one ore two or more major aspects of the world deception,
thus feels "awaken" and "eyes open" and superior to the "sheople", the masses, who are still "asleep" and unaware of what is really going on.

In his/her "awakened arrogance", these people totally neglect the possibility, that what they know now is old news to many, who
started to understand the full implications of the world deception decades ago and a few were even born with a deep understanding
of the artificial matrix, the Truman-Show we live in.

This "awakened arrogance" is comparable to "spiritual arrogance" and "intellectual arrogance", all of them boil down to blissful ignorance,
because all of them are excluding parts of reality due to a personal inability or unwillingness to see the bigger picture and thus are the clear
signs of stupidity in the non-derogative sense.

Why are the "post truthers" so aggressive?

This is quite simple to explain. They are getting angry, because deep inside they know that they are not omniscient, because they already
experienced how it feels to "wake up" from induced false beliefs. It's painful. It hurts. One's worldview gets shaken and shattered and you have
to readjust your knowledge store and your senses to the new situation, before the personal world can calm down and settle down again.

This is when the avoidance mechanism sets in, due to fear and the stages of conduct are the same as in the famous quote:

- ignoring
- ridiculing
- fighting

Fighting aggressively is the last state before seeing reason, thus I think "post truthers" and other blinded by their "enlighted arrogance" know-it-alls have a relatively good chance to become knowledgeable about what is really going on before long.

And yes, I know that you will think this sounds arrogant and know-it-all and perhaps it will make you even a bit more aggressive in your DIY ivory tower and I love it!

Thanks for reading and, in the best case, understanding.

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Reference: The Controlled Angry Backlash Against Women truth-zone.net/forum/my-zone-by-pfizipfei/66801-traumatized-debased-confused-men-the-controlled-angry-backlash-against-women.html
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 03 Apr 2017 09:44 #45

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rodin wrote:
Blog by Mike Wendling
With reporting by Sam Judah

Sandy Hook to Trump: 'Help us stop conspiracy theorists'

Alex Jones is a talk show host and the founder of the multimedia portal Infowars. Regular listeners and readers are used to his rants on everything from 9/11 to attacks across Europe. And on several broadcasts he embraced the Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists. Less than two years after the attacks, he welcomed Halbig on his programme and talked about an Infowars story headlined "FBI says no one killed at Sandy Hook".
"Internet sleuths immediately took to the web to stitch together clues indicating the shooting could be a carefully-scripted false flag event, similar to the 9/11 terror attacks, the central tenet being that the event would be used to galvanize future support for gun control legislation," the story stated.
He returned to the theme several months later on his radio show: "I've had the investigators on, the state police have gone public, you name it - the whole thing is a giant hoax. And the problem is, how do you deal with a total hoax? How do you even convince the public something's a total hoax?"
Later he said: "Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured. I couldn't believe it at first. I knew they had actors there clearly but I thought they killed some real kids, and it just shows how bold they are, that they clearly used actors."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39194035


How Jewish is the BBC? :right: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/64068-how-jewish-is-the-bbc.html?start=160#255779


Well worth reading the full article!

Everybody, who does independent research with eyes open and brain deprogrammed is an enemy of the system and those who have been creating the world deception, who are desperately trying to keep their house of lies, built on sand, up.


Crisis Actors and the battle for Truth :right: truth-zone.net/forum/symbolism/61966-crisis-actors-and-the-battle-for-truth.html

BOSTON MARATHON :right: truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/61876-boston-marathon-hit-by-explosions.html#66942

Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died :right: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63753-sandy-hook-redux-obama-officials-confirm-that-it-was-a-drill-and-no-children-died.html
Sandy Hook School :right: truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/61194-sandy-hook-school.html

Sandy Hook crime scene photos :right:truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/61991-sandy-hook-crime-scene-photos.html

and many more attacks of late.
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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 08 Apr 2017 17:14 #46

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Well said!



The mindset of a hoaxer


*10 seconds after hearing an attack has occured*

- "This must be a hoax"

*Dozens of police and EMT all over the place*

- "They are all in on it"

*First images come through showing bodies on the street*

- "Those are dummies"

*More detailed images follow showing mangled corpes and carnage*

- "Those are good-looking dummies"

*Video appears of dozens of people fleeing in panic*

- "Those are crisis-actors"

*Video appears of truck plowing through crowd / street*

- "That's CGI"

*Eye-witnesses appear telling their stories*

- "Those are crisis-actors"

*Posts appear on Facebook and forums from friends/family condolences*

- "Those are all fake messages"

*Grieving family members appear on t.v.*

- "Those are crisis-actors"
You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 08 Apr 2017 17:27 #47

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Credible sources, (((they))) wouldn't lie to us



Reliable eye-witness



Reliable victim



Nobody is in on it, very credible people



Here for us to serve and protect



Those are all real messages



Don't question!!1!!!!1!!
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 08 Apr 2017 18:01 #48

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^ Well gosh... now you're telling something new Gaia! :O

We didn't know those aren't credible sources! Thanks for informing us about it.

Man, you are so smart. You definately know 'more' than we do. :larf:
You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 08 Apr 2017 20:02 #49

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MY TOP 3



Robbi Parker





Gene Rosen (no longer available) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqJh7FzS1Ao

Gene Rosen Caught Rehearsing His Lines On Camera! A Must See!!!



See more: www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gene+rosen


Wayne Carver





Among many others involved in Sandy Hook and of course the 6 million survivors.

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 01 May 2017 17:15 #50

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Orangeaid wrote:


Batarishvilli was killed last year
truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/68708-image-jews-are-behind-the-isis-terror-group.html#257612



So some "crisis actors" - or trained agents provocateurs - appear to really have died on duty?


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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 31 May 2017 14:16 #51

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A "hoaxer" - to believers and system trolls alike - is someone who thinks that something is not quite right in this picture:




Original link bilder.bild.de/fotos/bei-einem-schweren-autobombenanschlag-nahe-der-deutschen-botschaft-im-diplomatenviertel-in-der-afgha-200401067-51979440/Bild/2.bild.jpg

31 May 2017 "Kabul bomb: explosion near German ambassy kills dozens"

duckduckgo.com/?q=kabul+anschlag+deutsche+botschaft&t=ffnt&iax=1&ia=images
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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 11 Jun 2017 22:16 #52

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Modern Terror, Ancient Deception


Less than two weeks after Manchester, London was the scene for yet another terror attack, the capitol’s second in under two months. Again we were treated to the 24 hour rolling news coverage, which has become the Reality TV of our time. As with all modern forms of entertainment, it is fully interactive. People flock to social media to voice opinions and virtue signal to their respective groups. In these mini echo chambers everyone’s a winner. Anyone that disagrees with you is obviously a commie/fascist (highlight as appropriate) so with victory complete, they sleep easy having done put the world to right.

Egos aside, social media can be an interesting place, especially in finding motive to the current madness. Last weekend many of my nationalist brothers and sisters again let me down. Apparently the government and media outlets, who are actively trying to genocide the white race, can still be trusted when it comes to Muslim terror. The left also fall victim to this double think. Although fully aware of media and political corruption, they believe when it comes to unwashed “refugees”, these corrupt leaders suddenly developed hearts of gold.

Most nationalists seem eager to jump on this false narrative as it appears to play into their hands. They prefer to follow the old adage “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”. Homer’s Iliad, though, taught me never to accept gifts from my enemies, especially of the horse variety. So it begs the question:

Why would our enemies fake Islamic terror, whilst trying to convince us to accept more Islamic immigrants?

(...)

Remember he who controls the narrative of the battle determines its outcome.




Full article :right: www.renegadetribune.com/modern-terror-ancient-deception/ must read!!!
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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 13 Jun 2017 10:13 #53

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#PrayForHoax #FalseFlags





"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 18 Jun 2017 16:38 #54

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annabelle wrote:
the 27-storey
truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/69395-massive-fire-engulfs-tower-block-in-west-london.html?start=140#266928


PFIZIPFEI wrote:

The tower is incessantly growing!

At first 23, then 24, now even 27 storeys.


Proof


annabelle wrote:
Obviously a stupid mistake wasn't it. :yerright:

Out of that whole article, with the footage in the previous video of the man in the window trying to get help and the daily mail article posted to give a follow up that the man was rescued.... and the only thing you pick out of that was they got the number of stories of the building wrong (and the spelling). :yerright:


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Every "stupid mistake", every incorrectness, every inconsistency, every misconception ... is admissible to the believer
of the holy gospel of the MSM.

(end of sarcasm)

:)


annabelle wrote:
Every "stupid mistake", every 'incorrectness'.. is admissible to the believer
of the holy gospel of the 'It's all a hoax, everything is a hoax' brigade

(end of sarcasm)

:)
truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/69395-massive-fire-engulfs-tower-block-in-west-london.html?start=140#266954



I just thought to save this because it might be funny and interesting to analyse it at some later point in time.


:)


Question to all who are interested in factual reality: How many storeys can YOU see?






Further reference:

:right: The growing GrenFell tower truth-zone.net/forum/symbolism/69396-the-tower-tower-symbolism.html#266911
:right: Masters of Deception: Zionism, 9/11 and the War on Terror Hoax truth-zone.net/forum/books/69394-masters-of-deception-zionism-9-11-and-the-war-on-terror-hoax-zander-c-fuerza-free-ebook-pdf-download.html
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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 20 Jun 2017 15:03 #55

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Lizzy wrote:
i'm sorry orange but i just don't see it - where were the ambulances , hospital intakes , children in and leaving hospital - where where the funerals - where was all the damage and mayhem that should have been present - it wasn't . These alleged victims never made the local papers whilst still supposedly in hospital - it seems all of them were form abroad - and then BIG showtime the next week - geez these scams are making millions - hit that donate button. everytime .Just before the bomb a mother - daughter were told exit a different way .

Then this , yes Finsbury Park mosque is notorious , an obvious target for a real white out to cause trouble - but none of that stands up to close observation - it looks more to me like those around the police van wanted know why the man was being taken away and where were the bodies - again nothing just 3 grinning actors and a fourth wheeled away unscathed - along with the pristine RamaVan.
Why is it that the perps are always white ?

The only people that have died recently were in Grenfell Tower and those (((mega rich psychotic assholes))) torched it with real victims .


Orangeaid wrote:

I'm wasting my time trying to talk common sense with you. You are too beholden to the "everything is a hoax" fallacy

What hoaxers do is totally undermine any sense of response to what is being done. Hoaxers push the narrative that it's all not real so don't worry about, go on with business as usual.

Let's ignore former NHS workers in Australia talking of kids blown to bits in Manchester that they knew - that's all fake. They're on the payroll.

You really do not understand that the media WONT cover the reality of those attacks as they WANT the West invaded by blacks and browns AND to bury the jihadist hate crimes.

Hoaxers may as well be wearing red and parrot all the cultural Marxist agendas as the outcome of the hoaxer fallacy you are all so beholden too leads to the same outcomes as cultural Marxists wanting to destroy the West with mass immigration

Have a good think about the outcomes the hoaxer fallacy brings. They aren't any different to the cultural Marxist are they?

You're views are completely insane and only benefit the Jew and the Jewish cause.

You may as well as join HIAS and kvetch to let in more blacks and browns as by denying their crimes you are helping to suppress the response that must happen.
Context: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/69422-third-terror-attack-in-london-more-than-ten-people-are-run-down-by-a-van-ploughing-into-pedestrians-near...html?start=20#267204



I could say a lot about your comment, Orangeaid, unfortunately I don't have the time right now, but the crazy thing is
that I think the same (bolded) of you and others, who are unable to get their heads around what is really going on,
except the "insane" part of course, because I don't think your views are insane, but definitely unhealthy for all "goyim"
in the long run. We can no longer afford this head-in-the-sand attitude.



Reference:

:right: Many of my nationalist brothers and sisters again let me down truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/67526-what-is-the-hoaxer-movement.html?start=40#266103
:right: Deep State Terrorism and The Strategy of Tensioin truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/69424-deep-state-terrorism-the-strategy-of-tension.html

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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 21 Jun 2017 01:59 #56

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Logic, consistent reality:

A hunter is someone who hunts
A writer is someone who writes
A painter is someone who paints
A hiker is someone who hikes
A stager is someone who stages
An analyser is someone who analyses
A hoaxer is someone who hoaxes; stages events


Illogic inconsistent slander and lack of understanding of language:

A hunter is someone who hunts
A writer is someone who writes
A painter is someone who paints
A hiker is someone who hikes
A stager is someone who stages
An analyser is someone who analyses
A hoaxer is someone who analyses hoaxes; staged events



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What is the 'hoaxer-movement'? 21 Jun 2017 12:34 #57

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The truth is always logic, crystal clear and easy to understand for everybody,
but what has been done to the brains of the masses livelong, over generations,
can't be undone in an instant, at least not in the SAME instant for all.


The phenomenon that some people see things and others don't see the same or
don't see them at all and vice versa is gathering pace, according to my perception.


This is part of the inevitable division-decision process, in the course of which every
single human has to take a stand, no matter how much one may be struggling to
please remain comfortably sitting on the fence. It won't be an option for much longer.


And this is also what causes "The schism at Truth Zone"


Jmho.


... I cannot leave things there, though. All of this is just an illusion, like those fantastic Magic Eye pictures you tried so hard to see when you were at school. Once you see one of them, in one picture, you have the eye for it, and you can see them all.





When you see the messaging, you cannot be messaged anymore. The trick lies in us not knowing how to see through it all, and fortunately more people are waking to our views.

When I started this trail for truth I never thought it would lead me here. When I first read of crooked politicians and the FDA, never did I think I would get here, but I did. Others are coming out of the spell, all of the time, everyday, and they just need to keep looking at new images to see what pops out of them.


Context :right: Deep State Terrorism & The Strategy Of Tension truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/69424-deep-state-terrorism-the-strategy-of-tension.html#267945
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HOAXBUSTERS vs "hoaxer-movement" 27 Jun 2017 16:57 #58

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13 Important Elements Found in Every Staged Shooting Event


People who don’t trust government, those who think on their own and tend to question what they hear, by now are all becoming experts at identifying false flag staged events.

With so many recent staged psyop events in the news lately many of us are getting a lot of practice at this. But have you considered that the script has become more complex than you think? Have you considered that you (we) are being fooled in some way as we speak? Have you taken into account that the events happening today are all happening in a post-Jade Helm revelation AI era?

Today’s events are happening in a very sophisticated world of unimaginably deep levels of political corruption actively at work and deeply focused on removing all of our rights and freedoms and cementing their new global order. This complex and deep reality alone is something many people refuse to face; and without facing this you’ll never be able to peel and dig deeper into the deep state’s structure, mind and mechanisms that are behind these chaotic staged psyop false flag events.

Notice I’m using the terms “false flag” and “staged events” interchangeably because at times it’s difficult to determine which one is actually happening. So it’s fair to say that false flags are types of staged events.

We’re all familiar with the different types of events; mass shooting attacks by crazed supposed lone gunmen who are the selected patsies for the event. We also see shootings where the government conveniently retroactively tells us the shootings are courtesy “ISIS,” “ISIS inspired” or “ISIS related.” In recent events we also saw a focus on the paid-for engineered race war where the selected shooters are looking to shoot ONLY police or only “white” police (Dallas sniper, Baton Rouge shooting). Conveniently these shootings work great for fanning the flames of race and class tension and division while conveniently boosting the police state and public sympathy for police.

Whatever the type of event, notice we rarely if ever get to see any evidence whatsoever of the actual accused patsy shooter at the scene of the crime.

For example, consider that it’s been weeks and still no one has any actual evidence of Omar Mateen physically entering the Pulse night club in Orlando and physically firing and killing people. Where are these videos?

Yet the majority of people have him at the scene because that’s how the story goes, and apparently it’s almost too stressful to believe something no one else is saying.

The same could be said of the accused truck driver “terrorist” in Nice, France or the actual sniper (supposed) lone gunman shooter in Dallas, Texas. You get the picture.

This anomaly only scratches the surface on what this article is about.

The fact is we are all now getting used to these events, for better or for worse, and there are many elements being shown to us that most of us are not paying attention to.

The events themselves are huge to us only because the mainstream media puts them in our faces 24/7.

They are important because the government and their mass media says they are.

They (the government and their media) say this because the events are always part of a greater agenda.

The agenda and the event itself are inseparable in a world today where the masses are conditioned into reacting to a presented problem whose solution is later sold to them. This process of “problem, reaction, solution” is undeniable and obvious to all today.

The mechanisms of the script are openly available for all to see; but, as mentioned earlier, have you considered how deep this “staged event” mechanism goes?

Hopefully the following 13 elements we’re about to point out will bring more awareness to these additional possibilities, agendas and factors which are quietly hidden in these events but as you will see are actually hidden in plain view.


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HOAXBUSTERS vs "hoaxer-movement" 27 Jun 2017 21:09 #59

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Funny. I have made that comparison with 3D images as in your 21-06 post years ago too. :thumbup:

Good piece in your last post too.
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The Shills’ Chorus:

‘I Know a Guy Who Knows a Guy Who Was Shot in Vegas’



By Russ Winter


One of the common tactics in staged deceptions are flurries of comments in which the poster claims to know somebody who knows somebody who was killed or injured during an event. Typically, they’re at least two or three parties removed. The names of “victims” are rarely if ever mentioned. The claims are incredibly scripted and repetitive.

This post provides a collection of such comments. One might wonder why large numbers of these commentators feel compelled to use a forum like Reddit’s r/Conspiracy to run with this. The following is a sampling of 36 of them, just about Las Vegas and just from Reddit’s r/Conspiracy sub-Reddit. Many, many more can be mined elsewhere.

The mathematical odds of dozens of people posting the same general narrative to a specific sub-Reddit must be millions to one — if not billions. Note also that some of these posts have a high number of up-votes, typically a sign of brigading. I’m convinced a high percentage are these scripts generated by computerized bots.

Clearly, this is an absurdly disproportionate number of people affected personally by the Vegas event, but many also think there’s a real false-flag conspiracy involved. So even though many “question the official narrative,” they harass and insult those who question the basic claims that people were shot — as if every other detail is possibly a lie, but there’s no way anyone would ever fake a shooting. It’s highly suspicious that the staged deception theory is the nonnegotiable point in these narratives.

They combine this with standard gaslighting, questioning the motive for the staged-deception theory. They create a straw-man argument revolving around why actors would be in on it for no apparent motive or reason. The answer is that these are false personas, or cutouts: people who aren’t real — just like most of the shills. See Miles Mathis Exposes Fake Personas in the Las Vegas Shooting.

(NB: Who is Miles Mathis? truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/69157-who-is-miles-mathis.html)


7Seraphim7 5 points 11 days ago

Listen this theory that nothing happened is kind of a little sketchy. I know of someone killed there with 2 degrees of separation from myself. I know of many people that can be verified this way since I live in Southern California. That being said, if you’re looking to start an actual discussion you could have a different approach than being inflammatory and baiting in the way you ask this question. Unless of course your goal here isn’t a civilized discussion :).

Cigarette5mokingman(S] 2 points 14 days ago

Once again, I live in Vegas, and I personally know someone who buried a family member. People died. Except this as fact because it is. Other very shady shit went on that night which is not being addressed by the media. Unless perhaps you’re only here to disrupt the conversation.

goingtocalifornia_ 0 points 1 day ago

I literally know a girl who was shot in the eye. She’s recovering albeit very slowly. How do you explain that, exactly? Of course stuff is being covered up but your assertion is wrong.

rake16 1 point 2 months ago

Just gotta say, I know someone who was there and she saw people that were actually shot and dead.

She talks about it a little bit on the news as well. I can promise you on this one, people were actually shot, the only debate at this point is motive and who was behind it. Both of those are totally open for discussion.

Plomagliojr 1 point 2 months ago

My wife and the mother of my son was there. She was injured and she was treated. Most of these “theories” on this site are interesting and creative but this is plain silly.

AnonDocs(S] 5 points 2 months ago

Oh fuck off people died my best friends old roommate is almost dead, people who live in southern California or Arizona or Vegas know enough people who actually have a life and go to Vegas to know people who were affected or close to that shooting. It was real, it was a false flag.

polkadotgirl 12 points 2 months ago*

I actually do know somebody who died in it. In my community. A real person. Vigil. Funeral. Everything. I think it was still a false flag but real people died.

brooksandretti 3 points 2 months ago

I know someone who’s in the hospital! The bullets were real, everything else is up in the air

Daddydante88(S] 5 points 2 months ago

I rock my tinfoil hat with pride. I don’t trust my government or any of its agencies. I believe wholeheartedly that there is a lot of possibility that the story we are being told is not true.

Yet with that said I do have to disagree with you, bullets were flying. People died. I’m going to avoid giving out too much information about my personal life but, my employment leads me to work in a lot of people’s homes. One of my regular customers is a 55 year old woman who was at the Jason Aldean concert in Vegas when it happened. She showed me the blood on her shoes and pants. It wasn’t hers she didn’t get hurt.

Also, there is pictures, there is footage. I won’t post them here but go spend a little time on /pol/ it won’t take you long to see them.


Predator04 2 points 2 months ago

I have 5 friends that have passed away from this. There has been deaths for sure. Hoax not even. False flag? Yes

JakeElwoodDim5th 8 points 2 months ago

This guys a fucking dickhole. Notice, all he does is say its fake, and then expect you to prove to him that it’s real.

The burden of proof is on you, u/joe_jaywalker , asshole. I’m two degrees removed from someone there. It happened.

u/joe_jaywalker -You’re stupid enough to believe that they would put together a more elaborate set-up than a fucking top-budgeted hollywood movie when simply shooting people is not only exponentially simpler, but actually possible.

i’m really starting to think this “hoax” narrative is being pushed by an element in Deep State in order to discredit those of us who insist on looking into this event.


marflow75 1 point 16 days ago

My bosses sister was killed and her husband seriously wounded. I worked with him the night of October 1. Woke up the next morning to the news of the shooting, and then news of his sisters death. He was off work 3 weeks and isn’t the same since he came back. So I’ve seen first hand the effect. My mother has a good friend who was working the event. I’ve heard firsthand her story. So for that to be a hoax those two people would have to also be getting paid off.

Next I would ask what PROOF do you have that it didn’t happen. And your position that the burden of proof is on me doesn’t work.

And then finally, to what end would a hoax be effective? Who would benefit from that? In what way? False flag, yes. Hoax, no.


tterb0331 3 points 2 months ago

No need to show me examples. I’ve personally seen plenty of gunshot victims. How could you have THAT many “actors” and keep things so quiet? How do I have a friend from the military that was childhood friends with one of the people that died at the concert? Is this just an “actor?” And where does he go now that he is “dead?”

Most people here aren’t arguing the fact that this event did in fact happen, and people really did die. We are trying to figure out how it actually went down, who was behind it, what was the motive, etc...


warrhamster 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah. I guess anyone can say anything anonymously on here but I did know someone who died there. False flag conspiracies kind of get to me because it’s hard on the people who lost people during them. I don’t think they work either. I live in a small town in the south and they’re never gonna take our guns. Not easily anyways. It was probably a bad idea to even click on this thread. As for my favorite conspiracies, I like more out there stuff like hollow earth, Antarctica stuff, and alien stuff.

TheEstherCutie 7 points 1 month ago

You didn’t attend my friends funeral…. You might be sadly mistaken there…. if you go into my history you will find the link to our invite and also talking with someone else who felt it didn’t happen.

This hit too close to home for me. I am someone who thought sandy hook was a fake. And now… here I am missing my friend, Brennan Stewart’s presence. He didn’t have to even talk to you for that smile to light up the room.

I remember he was a grade ahead of us. He gave me my first pooka shell necklaces. Good guy. Rip.

FWIW… I don’t blame you for thinking it may not have happened because I have been there with sandy hook and I’ve seen the crisis actors. Maybe it happened with both in Las Vegas?

Maybe… innocent people did die but crisis actors were there to tell a different story. After all, witnesses are dying.

Just food for thought not an attack. I don’t want to let the loss of a friend and my beautiful home dictate how I treat you.

We are all here to ask questions and that’s the point of the sub. So…. that’s just my food for thought.


FlubberNutBuggy 2 points 1 month ago*

4 Canadians were killed there, including 3 from the province I live in. One of those victims, Jessica Klymchuk, was a single mother of FOUR children, school bus driver and teachers assistant and well known in her small community of around 2000 people. Are you really, seriously trying to imply she was somehow in on some American conspiracy? There are really no words for how deluded that is. You think she abandoned her life in some small town that is not even in the US, abandoned her children and her career in which she spent most of her waking hours helping children? Based on what evidence, and what motivation(tentative to wether you think she was willingly involved)?

Here is a statement by her employer www.hfcrd.ab.ca/about-us/hfcrd-news/post/remembering-jessica-klymchuk

So, by the logic you are trying to propose, either that school board doesn’t exist, and none of the students exist and the town doesn’t exist? Or she was in on it for no apparent motive or reason?


randomguyrandomstuff 12 points 21 days ago

Dude, I’m not going to go hunt down evidence that people died for you. They did. I had met one of them several times through a family friend.

I have no issue with you believing this was a false flag or whatever, but to say no one was shot is just fucking dumb.


0xnull 1 point 1 day ago

I dated a girl who was there. She was trampled and watched the woman beside her die from a shot.

runescapejesus 0 points 1 day ago

Im not sure still.

Ive had my sister tell me her coworker’s friend died and my Aunt tell me a little boy she knows parents died and he came up to her crying.

This is very problematic for me. Because I know for a fact they used crisis actors for this event and that “gore” on liveleak was staged/fake. I will try to ask my Aunt some more details this Christmas Eve about what she knows.


blackbutters 32 points 5 days ago

My friend got shot in the arm.

chuxarino 0 points 1 month ago

My friend was shot in the arm. She’s recovering. She’s not an actress. I’ve known her family for years.

TheBigAndy 0 points 1 day ago

I have know multiple people who were there. A coworker and his friend who was shot, two personal friends who escaped quickly, and my sisters sorority sister was shot. Both people lived who were shot.

cosmosomsoc 10 points 2 months ago

Vegas local here. My sister was at the event and witnessed everything as it happened. A good friend was shot in the foot and is in recovery. Sisters fiancé is a first responder and performed triage for 12 hours. So…

TBDPRODUCTIONS 1 point 2 months ago

The people have emerged, one of them is my niece you piece of shit!

walkhardd 4 points 2 months ago

I saw someone i know dead in this video, you fucking retard. My little sister was there, and she’s fucked up from all this.

ThatGuyNearby 1 point 2 months ago

You must not live in Vegas or know anybody that happened to be here. I knew people at the concert, knew someone that was killed, and have now heard countless stories from others that were there. Definitely nothing staged

istoleyourribeyes 3 points 12 days ago

I’ve personally seen a gunshot victim from the event. As in I saw the the person, in person, with a bullet hole. I think their was probably gunshots.

coocookazoo 2 points 20 days ago

My cousin that lives in Vegas actually has a friend that was shot in the shoulder.

Jhov12 9 points 2 months ago

My friends sister was killed. Weve covered this

kevjay17 1 point 2 months ago

Do you think all these families are lying? I know someone who was shot, are they lying?

adidasbdd 6 points 2 months ago

My buddy was there, people really died. You have tens of thousands of witnesses. You people are insane


dsnuh(S] 3 points 2 months ago

Hey dumbass, they did die. That attorney in San Diego that died worked with my attorney for the last year.


DrChooch 1 point 1 month ago

Lol, ok bud. I guess the lady from a small town named Teulon which is near where I live in Winnipeg, MB, Canada getting news coverage of her recovery is part of the act.

If you don’t believe the shots of all the dead bodies laying around, or the accounts of people on here saying they lost a friend, attended a funeral etc…. But the ‘video’ you linked works for you then so be it.


jiveturkey17 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah well it’s a bit different when I know somebody that actually had three rounds put into their back and died and it wasn’t apart of some fake act. I get this is a conspiracy thread, but damn.

giants707fan(S] 2 points 1 month ago

I went to the service of someone killed in the attack. Was that a giant production to fool me too?

jollyberries 5 points 2 months ago

I know two people that died actually, they went to the concert, they did not come home,

thefirdblu 1 point 23 hours ago

One of the victims is from the town I just moved away from, and I know people who knew her.






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