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It's a real shame .... 05 Mar 2017 21:52 #1

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This seems to be the place where most of the interesting former David Icke posters have settled. My name came up on the "dishing the dirt on David Icke Forums" thread and I'm availing myself of the opportunity to explain the circumstances of my departure.

Contrary to (understandable) speculation I was not banned and left in good standing as an active member, albeit with a few infractions. I decided to leave because of the low quality of debate and total lack of interesting posters. I have contributed to, and debated on, many, many forums on a wide spectrum of topics over the years, and I can honestly say that, without a doubt, the David Icke Forums is a repository for some of the thickest posters I have ever encountered, and I say that without any hint of "sour grapes", having as I've said, left in good standing and of my own free will (and great relief I might add).

The low caliber of this forum became apparent after my "debates" with two of its "intellectual" luminaries, Zhiba and Johnfp, both of whom crashed and burned in their very own "Nazi Trolls" thread. Johnfp was being schooled once more (a tedious process) in a thread about Donald Sterling, when he began to seek refuge in an infantile mud slinging exercise; at this point I though, I cannot seriously continue with this, so I very politely (I though) checked out.

Basically, I left because Icke's forum is shit and on the basis of what he tolerates on his forum I'm radically disinclined to buy any of his books. I did initially harbour some curiosity about Icke, I liked the way he stood up to Bill Maher, but any positive feelings have been quashed by the avalanche of ordure that cascades from his dire website.

David Icke Forums is shit, its poster are stupid, its mods are absurd and I regret having wasting my time there, I won't be back and I won't miss it. I couldn't care less if it sinks, swims or limps on forever.

I'm very much looking forward to being on a normal forum.
Topic: Why I Left DIF truth-zone.net/forum/researchers-and-presenters/63534-why-i-left-dif.html?limitstart=0#103918



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It's such a shame that so many decent and intelligent members leave TZ after only a short period ... but totally comprehensible.
voxvot was here from 14 May 2014 till 26 Aug 2014.

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It's such a shame .... 21 Apr 2017 23:33 #2

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Are "goyim" allowed to oy vey?

:dunno:

I think it's very deplorable that we had so many new members lately
and none of them is posting here any longer.

Now comes the chutzpah part:

Must be the fault of the resident "Nazis" and Adolf Hitler!


"Same procedure... "





novum wrote:
Dont worry, you arent (by far) the only truther who cant accept that at least some responsibility lies within ones self... lets just blame the jews every time a white person behaves badly, for many its easier than admitting the other and taking responsibility.
truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/67931-what-is-your-opinion-on-military-gender-roles-and-women-wearing-mens-apparell.html?start=60#259269
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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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It's such a shame .... 12 May 2017 18:57 #3

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Does anybody know why SO MANY decent new members don't contribute any longer?


RHETORICAL QUESTION!


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Orangeaid wrote: Context: truth-zone.net/forum/novum-forum-feedback-and-faq/68624-ok-heres-the-deal.html?start=100#244592



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If you want to know why Asia Teacher left, just read his comments on THE DEAL thread:

truth-zone.net/forum/topics/posts/mode-latest/userid-1443.html?start=40

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 10:11 #4

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Does anybody know why SO MANY decent new members don't contribute any longer?

Just a few reasons off the top of my head...

Found a better place to post.

Found better things to do.

Found a life.

Found a partner and having lots of nice sex in spare time instead of posting.

Prefer to watch netflix or porn instead when online.

Have control issues and came to the realisation that they cant make me make the forum how they want it and left.

TZ isnt nazi enough.

TZ isnt liberal/left enough.

Some people dont like pfizipfei.

Some people think nov is an agent/operative.

Nov wont censor and/or ban ragnarok.

Nov wont censor and/or ban Frothy.

Nov wont censor and/or ban 'hasbaras'

Nov wont ban nazis.

Nov scares some people away, particularly females.

Im sure more will come to me, i'll add them in due course.
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:05 #5

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Nov thinks forum rules are authoritarian rubbish and thus he doesn't enforce guidelines,
not even on infamous David Icke forum trolls,
and he always claims that he does not ban anybody,
because we are all equal and so on,
but he blocked one female member already several times.

As it turned out he did this even for money.

And everybody who freely speaks about this and other facts can f off and start their own f ing forum.

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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:14 #6

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Nov thinks rules are authoritarian rubbish and thus he doesn't block or ban anybody ,
but he blocked one female member already several times.

As it turned out he did this even for money.

And everybody who freely speaks about this and other facts can f off and start their own f ing forum.

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Pfiz, id sincerely start looking at alternatives if i were you.

Ive honestly just about had enough, and its been playing on my mind for the past 5-6 weeks.

I really dont need any of this shit, and all this is probably ulitimately going to damage me even more than it has.

At the end of the month when i have to shell out once again for this site, i dont know if i want to.

And its not a threat, or grandstanding or any of that shite, i just cant be arsed anymore.

And i made this site, this current version is all me, the template, the code, i even came up with the suggestion to try again, AND the domain name when DG and frog threw in the SZ towel, and im not going to give this site to anyone, if it goes its going to go, and you can all go create or find something better or better suited to your needs.

Its 13 may, come end of may i'll have to shell out another 40 bucks or so, id rather spend it on whiskey or premium unleaded tbh.
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:18 #7

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The dif pit trolls are kvetching
and novum turns against mhs.

Same procedure as always.

Thanks for speaking out.

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:18 #8

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:20 #9

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
The dif pit trolls are kvetching
and novum turns against mhs.

Same procedure as always.

Thanks for speaking out.

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The way im feeling isnt about you.

Like i said, start thinking about finding an alternative for whatever it is that you do here, because im not sure here will be here next month.

At least ive told you, some people dont even do that and just vanish.
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:24 #10

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What you are stating here is an ultimatum.


If I don't go you will close the forum down.


You issued this ultimatum to me, personally.




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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:36 #11

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That isnt what i said or what im saying.

What im saying is, im thinking about closing the site.

Its not just about you, though you dont help.

Ive been thinking about it for a few weeks alot, and before that on and off for even longer.

All the squabbling here is pointless, all the accusations thrown my way i dont need (hell some people have even accused me of being an agent on a personal level) , and on top of all of that, the effort and time involved.

As you always say, im doing it wrong, so why not take a chance and go do it right somewhere else. :dunno:

Its just going to end up with everyone fractured and 10 different forums with 5 people (at best) each on them, that is all most of you are capable of having, except perhaps zorro who is just about the only one here who can do better than that, imho.

But it doesnt matter what i think.

Like i said, ive dealt with enough people who havent even given me the courtesy of telling me how theyre about to screw me over before they do, so at least you know whats likely coming.

Im increasingly feeling as though my involvement here is not only pointless but detrimental to myself.

And with all humility i still genuinely believe that most others wouldnt have kept this going for this long, DG aside. He was the only one who could have.. and he still needed my help as well as frogs in a tech sense.

Like i said, its much easier to make a site nowadays or get a free forum, so plan ahead.
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:46 #12

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So it's not about the money
and it's not about mhs?


Why is it that you never drop a sincere word about the massive trolling on your forum
that is killing it, novum?


All that would be needed to make YOUR forum great again, is GUIDELINES that protect decent
members, who want to seriously discuss all kinds of interesting subjects, from constant harassment
and the threads from being derailed and spamed on a constant level. GUIDELINES do not mean to
ban or block someone!


What you are saying is a slap in the face of all decent members.


And that I am not regularly praising your work, does not mean that I don't appreciate it!


When did you ever say that you appreciate good contributions?

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:50 #13

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You have 2 weeks, plenty of time.

Im not going to be part of a site where one group dictates what can and cant be said over another group.. if you want that then youre quite free to go and create that, and as a side benefit you have the chance to prove how wrong i am and show me how its done ey. :)
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 11:58 #14

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This is again addressed at me personally, it seems.


There are two groups on this forum:

- those who want to discuss non-mainstream subjects freely
- those who don't want that group to discuss those subjects freely


GUIDELINES have something to do with decent, civilised, polite behaviour and not with dictatorship.


A mod who excerpts blatant trolling is no dictator, but someone who feels responsible for the forum and the decent members.


decent: (of a person) Having a suitable conformity to basic moral standards; showing integrity, fairness, or other characteristics associated with moral uprightness.

Means nothing to those who think moral uprightness is an old fashioned term and a superfluous inhibitor of their egocentric desires.
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Its not about the money you silly sausage.

Perhaps ive finally come to my senses, rather than the other way around. :)
truth-zone.net/forum/faq-and-feedback-centre/68680-donations.html#261872


While you are gently speaking with the most disgusting trolls ....

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:06 #15

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Very conceited of you to think its just all about you, pfizzy.

Its over, just deal with it and go create your online utopia.. as the saying goes, one door closes another opens.

Im not closing a door for you, im giving you a reason to open a better one. :)
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:11 #16

Nov i hope you find peace :)
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:12 #17

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Oh i have peace, until i come here. :)
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:19 #18

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"IT'S NOT THE JEWS!!!"


"IT'S WOMEN!!!"



Case closed.

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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:21 #19

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Actually its people.

Men, women, good and bad of both.

But you can keep thinking its all about you, or women, or germans etc etc pfiz. :sokay:

Besides, it could be the jews, how do you know they havent asked me to pull the pin, oy vey!
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It's such a shame .... 13 May 2017 12:25 #20

The wisdom of my soul is out of this world

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