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Poll: What is Honour ?

I don't have a clue 1 16.7%
obsolete No votes 0%
an abstract concept irrelevant in real life No votes 0%
a hereditary trait 1 16.7%
a fundamental ' Aryan ' (noble) characteristic 1 16.7%
other - please explain 3 50%
Total number of voters: 6 ( novum, Return of Zorro, Lux Interior, jonb, GMP ) See more
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TOPIC: What is Honour ?

What is Honour ? 04 Aug 2017 20:55 #21

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It wasn't me who said that, but The Impartial Truth.

People who don't know humility are jewified.


What did "The Impartial Truth" say?


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He put it in his video which describes "Der Ubermensch"

- Honour
- Humility
- Compassion
- Morality
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What is Honour ? 04 Aug 2017 23:08 #22

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Flare, I am not a national socialist, I don't know enough to call myself that, I describe myself as heathen, the position I come to is from a study of history. So I am talking to you as an outsider, but in English humility is used two ways, one is saying to not be arrogant, and I can imagine some Europeans coming to the national socialist theories on race might well be temped to become very arrogant, so it might be very good to say to them humility is important.
The trouble is with the word that it can also mean abasement, making out oneself to be lower than one is, this connotation of abasing oneself is very strong in English which is why I don't like the word, but I can't think of an actual word,for assessing oneself honestly, so humility is used.
I am am outsider to your discussion of humility within National Socialism, but I wonder if the argument is not so much about national socialism, as a shortfall in the English language.
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 02:39 #23

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Flare, I am not a national socialist, I don't know enough to call myself that, I describe myself as heathen, the position I come to is from a study of history. So I am talking to you as an outsider, but in English humility is used two ways, one is saying to not be arrogant, and I can imagine some Europeans coming to the national socialist theories on race might well be temped to become very arrogant, so it might be very good to say to them humility is important.
The trouble is with the word that it can also mean abasement, making out oneself to be lower than one is, this connotation of abasing oneself is very strong in English which is why I don't like the word, but I can't think of an actual word,for assessing oneself honestly, so humility is used.
I am am outsider to your discussion of humility within National Socialism, but I wonder if the argument is not so much about national socialism, as a shortfall in the English language.

So besides agreeing with everything Pfiz says, liking everything Pfiz says, now you're even taking it up for her even when she's wrong?

Are you for real or just trolling the place?

Anyway, let's have look at some 'humility' quotes to see what it means...





















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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 04:22 #24

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OK what are you trying to say quoting Christians, an Indian mystic and the Chinese at a European that is proud of his ancestry?

Are you saying I should not be proud of my ancestors, but humble about them?

Have some white pride, if that is what you are.
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 08:16 #25

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"Before Mein Kampf is The Holy Bible!"


~ according to Flare



I asked novum to add your desired choice, Flare: truth-zone.net/forum/faq-and-feedback-centre/69615-poll-has-vanished.html#271976


On the previous page I posted the ONLY mention of the term "humility" in Mein Kampf:


"These writers were obviously counting on the proverbial humility of a certain section of
our people, who believe that a person who is incomprehensible must be profoundly wise."

~ AH, MK


On the other hand you will find the term "honour" and "honourable" uncountable times - if this tells you something.

Check: archive.org/details/MeinKampf_472



Just like Lux, who voted "other - please explain", you don't explain a thing but keep on posting random picture quotes.
What does this tell those who know what "honour" really means about you? Have a guess!




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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 09:09 #26

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:


"Before Mein Kampf is The Holy Bible!"


~ according to Flare



I asked novum to add your desired choice, Flare: truth-zone.net/forum/faq-and-feedback-centre/69615-poll-has-vanished.html#271976


On the previous page I posted the ONLY mention of the term "humility" in Mein Kampf:


"These writers were obviously counting on the proverbial humility of a certain section of
our people, who believe that a person who is incomprehensible must be profoundly wise."

~ AH, MK


On the other hand you will find the term "honour" and "honourable" uncountable times - if this tells you something.

Check: archive.org/details/MeinKampf_472



Just like Lux, who voted "other - please explain", you don't explain a thing but keep on posting random picture quotes.
What does this tell those who know what "honour" really means about you? Have a guess!





Well Pfiz... seems like you still don't understand what National Socialism really is all about then.

National Socialism Natural Law And Order


National Socialism, ultimately, is the application of Nature's Laws to human civilization; to reintroduce mankind (particularly Aryan-kind) to those laws which, in recent milennia, they have forgotten: those same Laws that gave birth to them and this entire universe. National Socialism is therefore mankind realizing, understanding, and living in accordance with Nature.

Nature’s first and foremost law is: survival and propagation of only the most fit. Those that are healthy enough, strong enough, and most adaptable to the constantly changing conditions are what Nature deems worthy of life on her planet. This is a very rough and relentless law to be sure, and could be looked at in a number of different ways which may or may not be correct. It is a rule which is quite often taken out of context.

National Socialism adheres to this law strictly, and bows unto it as a sacred and eternal law. But as National Socialists, we stray from becoming animalized by the simplicity of this law – instead, we have ideals which we attach to it. We want the intensification of civilization: we want mankind to advance itself rather than become more primitive. We want it to become more adaptable and more powerful, and at the same time more humble, intelligent, and creative. We want a race in harmony with itself and with nature – not a pack of snarling beasts ready to kill one another in order to survive.
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 09:32 #27

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Flare wrote:
Well, I guess you don't really understand what National Socialism is about then.


Flare wrote:
It wasn't me who said that, but The Impartial Truth.

People who don't know humility are jewified.


Flare wrote:
Well Pfiz... seems like you still don't understand what National Socialism really is all about then.



This thread is about "honour", Flare.

Not about your religious beliefs in the first place.

Not about National Socialism in the first place.

Not about your superior ego in the first place.

But thanks for impressively demonstrating by word and deed what "humility" really means to you all over this thread.




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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 10:00 #28

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Not about your superior ego in the first place.

:yerright:
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 10:19 #29

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Not about your superior ego in the first place.

:yerright:





That having been said .... Can we now please get back to reasonable, grown-up, on-topic conversation?!


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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 12:25 #30

I voted other, and I think the dictionary gives a good brief description of what honour is.

Honour:

The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right, regarding something with great respect, and fulfilling an obligation to keep a promise or agreement.
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 12:36 #31

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I voted other, and I think the dictionary gives a good brief description of what honour is.

Honour:

The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right, regarding something with great respect, and fulfilling an obligation to keep a promise or agreement.



Could you please post a link, Zorro?

I couldn't find this exact definition and would like to see the source.

Thanks.

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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 12:43 #32

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I voted other, and I think the dictionary gives a good brief description of what honour is.

Honour:

The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right, regarding something with great respect, and fulfilling an obligation to keep a promise or agreement.



Could you please post a link, Zorro?

I couldn't find this exact definition and would like to see the source.

Thanks.

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Here you go.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 13:10 #34

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Zorro wrote:
I voted other, and I think the dictionary gives a good brief description of what honour is.

Honour:

The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right, regarding something with great respect, and fulfilling an obligation to keep a promise or agreement.



Could you please post a link, Zorro?

I couldn't find this exact definition and would like to see the source.

Thanks.

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Sure. Here
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 13:13 #35

By the way, the poll seems to have disappeared again?
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 13:15 #36

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Zorro wrote:
Sure. Here


Which one is it? I don't see this quote. Can you please give me a link to your source?

Or did you just copy and paste what you deemed right from various sources?

This would be fine with me, just saying.



Zorro wrote:
I voted other, and I think the dictionary gives a good brief description of what honour is.

Honour:

The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right, regarding something with great respect, and fulfilling an obligation to keep a promise or agreement.


What does "morally right" mean to you in this case?

Based on which or whose "morality" exactly?

Who defines what is "moralilty" in this specific context?


Morality (from the Latin moralis "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper. Morality can be a body of standards or principles derived from a code of conduct from a particular philosophy, religion or culture, or it can derive from a standard that a person believes should be universal. Morality may also be specifically synonymous with "goodness" or "rightness".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality COMPARE de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral


That's the reason why I am interested in your source.


As your definition of "honour" is based on "The quality of knowing and doing what is morally right",
then you need to define what "morality" means to you. Otherwise we can't know what "honour" means to you.


I am also very interested in the reason why you disagree with this option: a fundamental ' Aryan ' (noble) characteristic


Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to argue with you, all I want is avoid misunderstandings, understand what you are saying
and in the best case make you also understand what I am trying to convey.

Thanks.

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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 13:55 #37

I just took it from a dictionary after putting in the words ''What is honour'' in a google search.

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Thank you, Zorro, now I understand why I did not find this exact quote :)


I was adding an explanation for my interest in your source to my previous comment, while you were posting,
so I only saw your response after I had finished editing, and I hope you understand why this subject - honour -
is so important - at least to me.


Edit: And thanks to novum for fun voting after I had said this.
Spartans :right: truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-general-discussion/64743-the-encouraging-and-uplifting-thread.html?start=20#178697

:roll: The double Schweinshaxe post was funny! Why did you delete it? I am out of here for now so you can post funny things to cheer up certain members and delete them before I will be back. It's surely not true that you don't have a clue, you deliberately behave CONTRARIAN.
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What is Honour ? 05 Aug 2017 15:27 #39

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Thats it, keep it coming. :coolio:

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Thats it, keep it coming. :coolio:

Dont go scaring any Gesichtslose Gespenster and hakennasen with the Schweinshaxe now!


What you did could be looked upon as a good example for the opposite of honourable: www.wordsense.eu/hinterfotzig/ :coolio:

... Another Spartan mother greeted her deserter son by pointing at her vagina and threatening to un-birth him. Seriously.





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