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What's going on with chemtrais? 27 Jun 2014 09:46 #41

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I keep hearing about criss cross chemtrails. If you want to cover an area, you would fly parallel courses, not several directions. Think of ploughing a field. Since any deletrious effects of chemtrails would affect all lifeforms I seriously doubt their existence as a general or global phenomenon. The patterns we see internet pictures of are commensurate with repeat flights along the same flightpath with lateral crosswind displacement making trails appear approximately parallel
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What's going on with chemtrais? 27 Jun 2014 10:38 #42

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The patterns we see internet pictures of are commensurate with repeat flights along the same flightpath with lateral crosswind displacement making trails appear approximately parallel

I agree with this.

Ive also often been in wide open spaces for long periods of the day where there are such flight paths, and have watched the parallel patterns being created with what i can see are passenger planes.

The planes will fly along the exact same path and lay a trail, with some time inbetween flights.

During this time between flights, under the right conditions, the entire trail will shift due to wind but remain straight. Next plane comes along, travels on the exact same path as the previous plane and lays a trail, but the first trail has shifted over slightly, so the more recent trail now appears to be parallel to it. Repeat over and over.

What some are effectively claiming regarding parallel trails is that planes are flying across the sky on different paths, one next to the other, to blanket the sky.. this is not the case from what i have seen.

I will touch on some photos ive seen with chemicals and sprayers on and in planes also. These can be planes set up to spray broadacre crops, and even irrigated crops grown under large pivots, such as potatoes and onions, for agricultural purposes. Typically pesticides or herbicides.

All that said, im not claiming to know what could or could not be sprayed out of planes.

What I am saying is that some of the things i see purpoted to be evidence of systematic laying of chem trails are simply the result of passenger jets going about their business.
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What's going on with chemtrails? 27 Jun 2014 10:39 #43

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I'm not going to argue what is that shit they spray up there and how they do it, that's irrelevant... The point is, there's much less chemtrails now. Last two years were horrible, totally disgusting, some times the sky was just as polluted as in England. But since last winter, the trails aren't there any more, and when they're doing it, it's just two or three trails, not that huge zigzag covering everything. And during this summer, I can count the trails I've seen with fingers of my hands. Strange thing is, the sort of "chemtrail haze" sometimes seems to happen, but now it's rare, same with clouds, it's nearly all times those natural old fashioned clouds in the sky, not that dirty random chemclouds as there has been for some years. Has somebody in Finland decided to halt the chemtrail operation?

I dunno what they've done, is their job done already, have they just lessen the poisoning, what ever it is, I love it! The sky has not been this clear for a long time! If this keeps going on, we'll have beautiful starfilled skies at autumn. What's going on in other countries? Have they lessen the shitspweing too? I sure hope so.
Same in Spain! :up: Although is has NOT stopped completely though... :mad:
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Three Faulty Theories Seeking to Explain Chemtrails! - (What's going on with chemtrails?) 03 Jul 2014 01:30 #44

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Finally, the full blown article complete with links and excerpts as supporting evidence.
It's the most outrageous and complete chemtrail theory yet.


The author has monitored the chemtrail situation for the past year and a half, but refrained from writing an article about it until adequate data had been gathered to formulate a viable theory that was both original and more explanatory than any other out there.

This theory was wrought both by contradiction and by positive proof. In other words, it exists because other explanations do not hold water. The impossible is eliminated, and what is left over, no matter how improbable, must be close to the truth. In this article, sample references will be given as positive proof, and the contradictory evidence shall be summarized below.

Note that the sample references are merely samples, and not which this article's validity hinges upon.

Three Faulty Theories Seeking to Explain Chemtrails
Chemtrails are unusually persistent airplane contrails with impacts upon weather and the health of those exposed to chemtrail fallout. They have been sighted in many countries and during all hours of the day and night, though chemtrail spraying usually begins early in the morning and slows in the evening. Air crafts involved in this phenomenon are commercial and military planes, the latter identifiable by traveling in areas and directions otherwise restricted for commercial flights.

As pointed out in Stan and Holly Deyo's May 31'st Newsletter, there are three major theories concerning an explanation of the chemtrail phenomenon:
  • weather modification
  • mass inoculation
  • population control

  • These theories do not adequately explain the range of data gathered.

    Weather Modification
    The weather modification theory arises from two clues, first that increasing cloudiness and precipitation sometimes occurs after a day of spraying, and second that EDB (ethylene dibromide or dibromethane) has been found in chemtrail fallout. Ethylene dibromide has similar effects on cloud formation as silver iodide, a chemical normally used in cloud seeding.

    But this theory does not explain the presence of genetically engineered viruses and bacteria in chemtrail residue, or the resulting epidemic of flu-like symptoms.

    If anything, EDB serves partly as a condensation nuclei around which water vapor in the atmosphere can condense, making thick chemtrails visible for satellite tracking.

    Mass Inoculation
    The mass inoculation theory is more viable, as aerosol dispersion of vaccines is certainly possible as mentioned in a previous post. The government has put effort into vaccinating its military forces against anthrax. Supposedly, chemtrails are an attempt to vaccinate the entire population against anthrax.

    But why would anthrax be the only agent, if not the major one, used in such an attack?

    There are others just as effective and easily dispersible. And with all the exposure of our bioterrorism efforts to protect against anthrax, what terrorist group would be dumb enough to choose something military forces, and possibly with chemtrails the entire population, are already vaccinated against?

    The government is suspiciously certain that anthrax will be the method of choice, implying factions within, and not domestic or foreign terrorists, will be the initiators of such an attack.

    Furthermore, spraying is occurring worldwide. Foreign governments are putting money and risk into spraying their respective populations. Since America would be the target of any such attack, spraying the rest of the world is a waste of money and time. Fact is, biological attacks are too localized an event to account for global spraying.

    The secrecy of the chemtrail phenomenon puts it into the domain of black budget projects and shadow government operations.

    It is unwise to claim that the shadow government (the same one responsible for the Gulf War Syndrome cover-up, dangerous biological testing upon unsuspecting American citizens, avocation of fluoride in public water supplies, forceful suppression of alternative medicinal and technological inventions, electronic harassment of dissenters, and murder of whistle blowers) is spraying Joe Schmoe in Oklahoma just so that he can live and contribute to the overpopulation problem.

    Overpopulation
    Which brings us to the point of overpopulation. If the world's population is indeed to be reduced as drastically as demanded by the World Health Organization and the World Wildlife Fund among many, people need to die, not just stop reproducing. Supposedly, chemtrails are an effort to accomplish this.

    Single agent spraying, whereby what's being applied now to the population will eventually kill them, is unlikely. Right now, people are recovering from chemtrail induced sickness. If single agent spraying were indeed the method, more people would be dead by now. And even with an agent possessing delayed lethality, the variability in immune responses among affected persons would result in some dying prematurely.

    Since chemtrail related deaths have been extremely low, the possibility of chemtrails containing delayed single agents is equally low.

    Double agent spraying is another possibility. One benign agent is applied now, and its combination with an activator in the future would turn it lethal. The activator can be anything from another biological or chemical substances to electromagnetic fields such as those potentially generated by HAARP. The electromagnetic method is pure speculation and thus considered unlikely.

    Applying the activator agent would result only in the deaths of those affected by the benign agent. This is a lot of work, hassle, and most of all risk compared to just applying a single agent at that time and skipping ever having to deal with a benign agent. Why do double agent spraying and take the risk with visible chemtrails and whistle blowers now, when you can keep everything clandestine until that final day when you apply a lethal single application?

    Double agent spraying is obviously not the method employed. Since single agent spraying has been discounted above, the "population control" theory does not hold. With these major chemtrail theories discounted, a new theory is required to fit the data.

    There are three pieces,
  • chemtrails
  • gene therapy
  • mass human mutation

  • ...that when put together, give rise to the following theory.

    So, let's take a look at the pieces of the puzzle in detail:

    Piece 1
    The Chemtrails

    From the many analyses performed upon chemtrail residue samples and listed on the web, the following substances have been gathered and listed here. As mentioned in such sources as:

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    Ethylene dibromide (dibromethane) - Banned in 1984 by the EPA, EDB (C2H4Br2) is a carcinogenic fuel additive and insecticide with a chloroform-like odor. It is claimed similar to silver iodide, which was once used for cloud seeding and weather modification purposes. When absorbed, EDB causes central nervous system depression and pulmonary edema, which is fluid accumulation in the lungs. Symptoms of pulmonary edema include shortness of breath, anxiety, wheezing, and coughing. It is extremely irritant to mucous membranes and the respiratory tract.


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    STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIESLIFE - TIME OF CHEMTRAILS 1997-2012 (What's going on with chemtrails?) 03 Jul 2014 04:58 #45

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    @iustitia on DIF wrote:
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    I have noticed over the last year that our sky's are not what they used to be. So this morning I went outside to a clear sky and watched.......resized, originals at image shack. Battery was flat, until recharge so date is default to phone. Trick of light as I see a face and body praying above the sun........
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    ITS ALL CONNECTED >> Big-Pharma Industry Fluoride, Cancer, Chemicals (What's going on with chemtrails?) 03 Jul 2014 06:17 #46

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    Its all connected ............... Big-Pharma Industry Fluoride, Cancer, Chemicals
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    - Africa's Frankenfoods - Why Is the Gates Foundation Helping Monsanto Push Genetically Modified Food?
    - A History Timeline of Population Control
    - AIDS - Man-Made - Main File
    - A Meeting Between Investigative Researcher and Well Placed Military Source
    - Apocalyptic Propaganda - Royal Society Think Tank Releases 'People and The Planet'
    - A War is Against Your Immune System
    - Big Government Conspiracy Theories Become Reality - Fluoride, Cancer, Chemicals and More
    - Big-Pharma Industry - The Healthcare Rip-Off - Main File
    - Bill Gates Says Vaccines Can Help Reduce World Population
    - Chemtrails and Geoengineering - Main File
    - Chemtrails - An Updated Look at Aerosol Toxins
    - Vaccination - Vatican's Medical Inquisition Revealed at Last! - Vaccination Came From the Vatican via Great Britain
    - Wall Street Czars Depopulating the World
    - What the World Needs Now Is DDT
    - 'Who' or 'What' is Killing The Bees? - Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD - Main File
    - Will The Cassini Space Robe Be Used As A Nuclear Trigger To Ignite Saturn And Terraform Its Moons For Human...?
    - Would Our Government Really Start a War to Try to Stimulate the Economy?

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    What if you just found out that cancer in America began when food processing plants became prominent and people moved closer to the industrial plants, where the jobs were, just after World War II?
    And what if you found out from a very "reliable source" that the U.S. government knew this processed food would cause cancer?
    Would you believe it, or would you call the people who do believe it conspiracy theorists?
    Does it seem so RADICAL of a concept, like some outrageous and malicious plan to make money at the expense of people's lives and livelihood?

    Or is it just paranoia, now being spread by the nightly news?

    World Without Cancer
    What if CNN, Dateline NBC, 60 Minutes, or some other network prime time "mainstream news" program did a HUGE NATIONAL STORY about how fluoride in public water is causing Alzheimer's, Osteoporosis and Arthritis, and nearly every city and county in America would be removing it from the public water supply starting first thing Monday?
    Then you found out the very next morning that your town or city was not on that list, because your mayor just switched from a job at a chemical company, and he or she is "all for fluoridated water"
    Are you worried?

    Do you run out a buy expensive filters at the hardware store for your sinks, for your showers, for everything?
    Does it seem so RADICAL of a concept, like some horribly unethical plan to make money off people's sickness? Or is it just paranoia, now being spread by the ever so popular nightly news?
    Then you start thinking, wait a second, could people go to jail for coming up with this idea, of fluoridating the water, or did they already go to jail for MASS MURDER?

    Maybe it's time to do a little homework for yourself, especially since it's now all over the news.
    A company called IG Farben worked closely with the Nazi regime and the SS, functioning like a war driving machine, donating some 80 million Reichsmarks in return for chemical, pharmaceutical and petrochemical industries which were seized by Hitler from the occupied countries.

    IG Farben then used huge investment capital from the one and only John D. Rockefeller and his Standard Oil Company to fund the creation and use of Zyklon B pesticide to gas millions of Jews to death.
    Scientists from IG Farben went on to work for the United States in major capacities, from designing rockets to
    DESIGNING FOOD CHEMICALS AND CHEMOTHERAPY (It began as "Project Paperclip").


    Toxic water was a planned conspiracy
    A study published in Environmental Health Perspectives just two years ago confirmed that fluoridated water causes brain damage in children.

    The study was the 24th one on the same subject, and the results were SO EVIDENT that experts thought it could be the end of water fluoridation. The fluoride levels in the children's blood were so high, if the study had reached the nightly news, America would be up in arms, demanding action.
    Getting paranoid yet? Or what if the word paranoia itself needs to be redefined? Maybe the dictionaries should redefine the political correctness of the word paranoid in order to fit in with modern day insanity when it comes to buying toxic food instead of Mother Nature's untainted organic food and "medicine."

    The gap is narrowing. The gap between what is believed about the history of America as being such a noble nation that feeds and "polices" the world, and the modern day notion that the government not only doesn't regulate and minimize toxic food and medicine, but promotes it and prospers from it, in more ways than any other generation of wealth.
    If you think by looking the other way when the truth hits, that somehow it won't hit you, or affect you and your family, you're wrong. Disease is being bred in toxic food and medicine which is for sale all around you. If you're shopping at all the wrong stores, you're "buying cancer."

    Put it this way, if you got lost in some forest and some "bad guys" were shooting tiny poisonous arrows at you, could you just look the other way and keep walking, or would you end up dying much sooner than necessary?
    Take the last decade of collateral damage for example
    After the Bush Administration's reckless push of high fructose corn syrup and Donald Rumsfeld's care free push of artificial sweeteners and dangerous prescription drugs, America is living inside a downward spiral.
    President Obama has done next to NOTHING to fix these monstrous issues. Add in Monsanto's GMO corn and soy and it's likesome modern day genocide.

    Nazi Germany wasn't a conspiracy theory, it was real, but people underestimated the movement as it rose up, and look what happened.
    During the war, the Nazi's tested extreme, intolerable conditions on Jews, the way we test monkeys and treat animals in the U.S., including the ones most carnivores eat today. How are GMO, poison-laden foods, which are proven to cause cancer, so different from pushing dangerous, chemical laden vaccines (like swine and flu shots) on humans?
    How similar were the Nazi concentration camp conditions to the conditions we find many animals living in today - trapped in a horror story from birth to miserable death - also known as CAFO's, or Concentrated (or Confined) Animal Feeding Operations?



    About the Author
    Steven Ransom is Research Director of UK-based Credence Publications, which investigates business and governmental health fraud and provides unbiased, life-saving health information (see http://www.credence.org). He is the author of Plague, Pestilence and the Pursuit of Power: The Politics of Global Disease (Credence, 2001) and co-author (with Phillip Day) of World Without AIDS (Credence, 2000).
    His new book, Great News on Cancer in the 21st Century (from which his "Death by Doctoring" article is extracted) is available at http://www.credence.org/great-news/greatnews.htm. His article, "Population & Food Control: The Corporate Agenda" was published in NEXUS 9/03. Steven can be emailed at [email protected.

    Visit his own website at http://www.whatareweswallowing.com
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    " Marcel Proust


    CANCER - THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
    Twenty-first century medicine boasts a number of treatments that are actually very dangerous to human health, none more so than for cancer.
    May this short report reach the many thousands of people currently undergoing conventional cancer treatment. May it also reach the many thousands of doctors, physicians, nurses and carers who every day are innocently inflicting serious harm in the name of conventional cancer care.
    Let the countdown begin. Let there soon be an end to... Death by Doctoring.
    Every year in the United Kingdom, 200,000 people are diagnosed with cancer and 152,500 people die.1 In the United States, the annual death rate for this disease is approximately 547,000.2 These deaths are recorded as cancer deaths, but how many of these deaths are really attributable to the disease itself? How many deaths should in fact be recorded as "death by doctoring"?
    When we consider that conventional treatment consists almost entirely of radiation, chemotherapy and the long-term application of toxic pharmaceuticals-treatments which are all well known for their life-threatening side-effects " then the question becomes all the more legitimate.

    On chemotherapy, for instance, note the following:
    "Most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy. Chemotherapy does not eliminate breast, colon, or lung cancers. This fact has been documented for over a decade, yet doctors still use chemotherapy for these tumors."
    (Allen Levin, MD, UCSF, The Healing of Cancer, Marcus Books, 1990)
    We examine the much-publicized story of the UK media personality, the late John Diamond, who opted for conventional treatment. What does his story tell us? John was known for his critical attitude towards many of the more popular alternative therapies.
    We look at some aspects of the alternative approach and ask if his criticisms were entirely undeserved. We hear from those within the cancer establishment itself who cite the conventional cut, burn and dissolve techniques as ugly and inhumane, and from those who seriously question the amounts of money being invested in conventional cancer today, given the pitifully low recovery rate. In the UK alone, £2.8 billion a year is spent in the conventional cancer emporium. That's roughly £6,800,000 a day. US spending on cancer is 10 times higher.
    We also hear from those who defied conventional wisdom and opted for non-toxic, non-conventional cancer treatments, with remarkable results. And no, we are not talking dolphin or pyramid therapy. From the known range of anticancer treatments available, this story focuses on the naturally occurring vitamin B17, vitamin C and the supporting role of nutrition. Vitamin B17 in particular has been attracting a great deal of attention recently, despite the concerted efforts of the worldwide cancer establishment to suppress or distort all the positive reporting on this vitamin.

    But should we find this so surprising?
    After all, it's no secret that with global spending on conventional cancer running into the hundreds of billions of pounds and dollars annually, any news of a successful anticancer treatment extracted from the simple apricot kernel could do some serious damage to the wealth of the mighty Cancer, Inc.

    Mammography and the Spread of Breast Cancer
    Thanks go to Dr Tim O'Shea for the following very important information on the practice of mammography:
    "This is one topic where the line between advertising and scientific proof has become very blurred. As far back as 1976, the American Cancer Society itself and its government colleague, the National Cancer Institute, terminated the routine use of mammography for women under the age of 50 because of its "detrimental' (carcinogenic) effects. More recently, a large study done in Canada found that women who had routine mammograms before the age of 50 also had increased death rates from breast cancer by 36%.
    (Miller)

    "Lorraine Day notes the same findings in her video presentation, Cancer Doesn't Scare Me Any More. The reader is directed to these sources and should perhaps consider the opinion of other sources than those selling the procedure, before making a decision. "John McDougall, MD, has made a thorough review of pertinent literature on mammograms. He points out that the US$5-13 billion per year generated by mammograms controls the information that women get. Fear and incomplete data are the tools commonly used to persuade women to get routine mammograms.
    What is clear is that mammography cannot prevent breast cancer or even the spread of breast cancer. By the time a tumor is large enough to be detected by mammography, it has been there as long as 12 years! It is therefore ridiculous to advertise mammography as "early detection'. (McDougall, p. 114)

    "The other unsupportable illusion is that mammograms prevent breast cancer, which they don't. On the contrary, the painful compression of breast tissue during the procedure itself can increase the possibility of metastasis by as much as 80%! Dr McDougall notes that between 10% and 17% of the time, breast cancer is a self-limiting, non-life-threatening type called "ductal carcinoma in situ'. This harmless cancer can be made active by the compressive force of routine mammography.
    (McDougall, p. 105)

    "Most extensive studies show no increased survival rate from routine screening mammograms. After reviewing all available literature in the world on the subject, noted researchers Drs Wright and Mueller of the University of British Columbia recommended the withdrawal of public funding for mammography screening because the "benefit achieved is marginal, and the harm caused is substantial'.
    (Lancet, July 1, 1995)

    "The harm they're referring to includes the constant worrying and emotional distress, as well as the tendency for unnecessary procedures and testing to be done, based on results which have a false positive rate as high as 50%."
    (New York Times, December 14, 1997) 13a
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    What's going on with chemtrails? 05 Jul 2014 03:45 #47

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    Also very funny you never scored any points on the DIF ever ............ except penalty' points of cause! ;)

    Came across this one while searching for something else!! :O ......
    Don't even know who is doing this & for what practical purpose :dunno:



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    What's going on with chemtrails? 05 Nov 2014 13:44 #48

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    MY WORD IS MY SWORD - a worldwide plea for help! STOP CHEMTRAILS!

    Where ever you live, please print this document, please send to all in the document, PLEASE PROVIDE SUFFICIENT POSTAGE TO CANADA, so that CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING over populations is OVER. We must report the crime in progress to the police chiefs.

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 05 Nov 2014 14:06 #49

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    This is a gud'un.

    Though I don't think it's 'harp' a stated on the clip title.

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 22 Jun 2015 15:07 #50

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    Busted Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS While Landing



    A pilot of a commercial airliner made a mistake that PROVES the existence of “CHEMTRAILS” — by forgetting to turn them off before he landed!  We have video of the plane landing while still spraying CHEMTRAILS as it hits the runway.  This is the first empirical evidence to back-up claims made people, smeared as “conspiracy-theorists,” who claimed airlines are being used by government to spray aerosols into the air without the knowledge or consent of the people being sprayed.  With proof like this, the public now has legal standing to file lawsuits, utilize subpoenas and force discovery of evidence.  The 1 minute blockbuster video appears below.

    Despite the fact that the plane is landing in foggy weather, the emission of chemtrails is unmistakable; their existence cannot be denied or explained-away by weather.  First, the trails are NOT coming from the back of the jet engines.  Second, the trails are not merely water trailing off the edges of the wings because as the plane passes, in addition to the wing trail emissions, there are clearly SPRAYS coming out of several sections at the rear of the wings in clear addition to any water that may be washing off the wing during landing.  See for yourself.
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    What's going on with chemtrails? 22 Jun 2015 16:01 #51

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    Busted Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS While Landing



    A pilot of a commercial airliner made a mistake that PROVES the existence of “CHEMTRAILS” — by forgetting to turn them off before he landed!  We have video of the plane landing while still spraying CHEMTRAILS as it hits the runway.  This is the first empirical evidence to back-up claims made people, smeared as “conspiracy-theorists,” who claimed airlines are being used by government to spray aerosols into the air without the knowledge or consent of the people being sprayed.  With proof like this, the public now has legal standing to file lawsuits, utilize subpoenas and force discovery of evidence.  The 1 minute blockbuster video appears below.

    Despite the fact that the plane is landing in foggy weather, the emission of chemtrails is unmistakable; their existence cannot be denied or explained-away by weather.  First, the trails are NOT coming from the back of the jet engines.  Second, the trails are not merely water trailing off the edges of the wings because as the plane passes, in addition to the wing trail emissions, there are clearly SPRAYS coming out of several sections at the rear of the wings in clear addition to any water that may be washing off the wing during landing.  See for yourself.

    Having seen my valid response below to Lizzy's post a few minutes ago on another thread all you've done is $pammed the same disinfo Bull$hit.
    Condensation Trails along the flight paths of commercial airliners are NOT caused by spraying! but by changes in air pressure (fluid mechanics). Note the sources of the vortices at the outer corner of the flaps on each wing. The high resolution of some of the sequences in the video below show no evidence of spray pipes but you won't address this because it will make you look an idiot.

    https://truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/65689-weather-modification-inc.html#170487

    Fear Porn Bollux ^.........watch the video below. Such aircraft related condensation phenomena occur frequently depending on atmospheric pressure, temperature, humidity and the presence of pollutants from the industrial/domestic combustion of so called "fossil" fuels.
    NUKES ARE A HOAX
    TRUTH IS HATE FOR THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH
    Meet the New Boss.....Same as the Old Boss

    http://www.stopthecrime.net/Henry-Makow---Illuminati----(2008).PDF
    I ignore PhiZog's $hit Stirring posts most of the time unless they are aimed at me....Sound of Breaking Glass........:larf:
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    What's going on with chemtrails? 22 Jun 2015 17:55 #52

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    I have to totally ignore Exorcist - I'm so way beyond the futility of argument about this - the proof is all there ,even Gov's have came out and admitted it's happening and the chemtrails themselves are a huge part in geo-engineering but it extends much further into an extremely sinister realm of not just engineering the weather but humanity itself. The scope of it is huge.

    I see it regularly - I see HAARP regularly - I only hope I never see first hand the more sinister aspects like Morgellons .

    All this ties into humanity becoming ( being adapted ) to EMF and 'smart dust ' 'mind ' body control ' and force GMO food globally - which wreck the immune system and more.

    The truth is to grasp the whole picture - they don;t want to just own the weather ( draught , flood ect ) but 'own' humanity too - that is being tampered with but most will not follow the science of it to it's true horror - that of losing our sentience.

    Little wonder people want to keep a lid on this -

    Mario has already posted alot of info in this thread .

    Chemtrails - Fully Exposed


    Aerosol Crimes - Polluting the air we breath and trapping greenhouse gasses


    What Chemtrails Are Doing To Your Brain - Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock Reveals Shocking Facts.


    SKYSCRATCH - The Geoengineering/Chemtrail Cover Up (NEW 2014 Documentary)


    HAARP - Chemtrails - How They are Change You - Bioengineering


    Geoengineering And The Collapse Of Earth 2014


    "Why in the World are They Spraying?"
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    What's going on with chemtrails? 22 Jun 2015 18:00 #53

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    From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life PART 2 - most just won't allow themselves to believe. .

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 24 Jun 2015 03:03 #54

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    From my bookmarks - 2 yrs old
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    Chemtrails and Monsanto’s New Aluminum Resistance Gene – Coincidence? UPDATE

    By Barbara H. Peterson

    Jan. 19, 2012 UPDATE:

    While I might assume a particular position on an issue, that position is subject to change when new or more relevant information becomes available. Remember the sorghum aluminum resistance patent that we thought was created by Monsanto to counter the effects of excess aluminum found in the soil after heavy chemtrailing? Well, it turns out that we were partially right.

    Please see UPDATED INFORMATION HERE.



    Why did Monsanto Develop an Aluminum Resistance Gene?

    Monsanto is currently marketing an aluminum resistance gene. Here’s the spin, folks:

    Small-scale, resource-poor farmers in developing countries face daily stresses, including poor soils, drought, and lack of inputs. Ongoing trends such as climate change and population growth will likely exacerbate binding stresses. A new generation of genetically engineered (GE) crop research aims to alleviate these pressures through the improvement of subsistence crops—such as cassava, sorghum, and millet—that incorporate traits such as tolerance to drought, water, and aluminum in soils as well as plants with more efficient nitrogen and phosphorus use. (www.ifpri.org/publication/delivering-genetically-engineered-crops-poor-farmers)

    Now, let’s take a look at journalist Michael Murphy’s research into chemtrails, geo-engineering, and the fact that extremely high levels of aluminum and barium are found in water, snow and soil, in areas shown to have heavy chemtrail patterns (three-part video):
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    Germ Warfare Tests on Public Set Precedent for Chemtrails -- What's going on with chemtrails? 13 Jul 2015 17:52 #55

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    Germ Warfare Tests on Public Set Precedent for Chemtrails
    July 13, 2015
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    In the 1950's and 1960's, the military
    conducted 239 "germ-warfare"
    tests in US cities.


    By Kevin Loria
    Business Insider

    San Francisco's fog is famous, especially in the summer, when weather conditions combine to create the characteristic cooling blanket that sits over the Bay Area.

    But one fact many may not know about San Francisco's fog is that in 1950, the US military conducted a test to see whether it could be used to help spread a biological weapon in a "simulated germ-warfare attack." This was just the start of many such tests around the country that would go on in secret for years.
    The test was a success, as Rebecca Kreston explains in Discover Magazine, and "one of the largest human experiments in history."

    But, as she writes, it was also "one of the largest offences of the Nuremberg Code since its inception."

    The code stipulates that "voluntary, informed consent" is required for research participants, and that experiments that might lead to death or disabling injury are unacceptable.

    The unsuspecting residents of San Francisco certainly could not consent to the military's germ-warfare test, and there's good evidence that it could have caused the death of at least one resident of the city, Edward Nevin, and hospitalized 10 others.

    This is a crazy story; one that seems like it must be a conspiracy theory. An internet search will reveal plenty of misinformation and unbelievable conjecture about these experiments. But the core of this incredible tale is documented and true.

    'A SUCCESSFUL BIOLOGICAL WARFARE ATTACK'

    It all began in late September 1950, when over a few days, a Navy vessel used giant hoses to spray a fog of two kinds of bacteria, Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii -- both believed at the time to be harmless -- out into the fog, where they disappeared and spread over the city.

    "It was noted that a successful BW [biological warfare] attack on this area can be launched from the sea, and that effective dosages can be produced over relatively large areas," concluded a later-declassified military report, cited by the Wall Street Journal.

    Successful indeed, according to Leonard Cole, the director of the Terror Medicine and Security Program at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School. His book, "Clouds of Secrecy," documents the military's secret bioweapon tests over populated areas. Cole wrote:

    Nearly all of San Francisco received 500 particle minutes per liter. In other words, nearly every one of the 800,000 people in San Francisco exposed to the cloud at normal breathing rate (10 liters per minute) inhaled 5,000 or more particles per minute during the several hours that they remained airborne.

    This was among the first but far from the last of these sorts of tests.
    _______________________________________________


    Tests included the large-scale releases of bacteria in the New York City subway system, on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and in National Airport.

    Over the next 20 years, the military would conduct 239 "germ-warfare" tests over populated areas, according to news reports from the 1970s (after the secret tests had been revealed) in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Associated Press, and other publications and also detailed in congressional testimony from the 1970s.

    In a 1994 congressional testimony, Cole said that none of this had been revealed to the public until a 1976 newspaper story revealed the story of a few of the first experiments -- though at least a Senate subcommittee had heard testimony about experiments in New York City in 1975, according to a 1995 Newsday report.
    A MYSTERIOUS DEATH

    When Edward Nevin III, the grandson of the Edward Nevin who died in 1950, read about one of those early tests in San Francisco, he connected the story to his grandfather's death from a mysterious bacterial infection. He began to try to convince the government to reveal more data about these experiments. In 1977, they released a report detailing more of that activity.

    In 1950, the first Edward Nevin had been recovering from a prostate surgery when he suddenly fell ill with a severe urinary-tract infection containing Serratia marcescens, the theoretically harmless bacterium that's known for turning bread red in color. The bacteria had reportedly never been found in the hospital before and was rare in the Bay Area (and in California in general).

    The bacteria spread to Nevin's heart and he died a few weeks later.

    Another 10 patients showed up in the hospital over the next few months, all with pneumonia symptoms and the odd presence of Serratia marcescens. They all recovered.

    Nevin's grandson tried to sue the government for wrongful death, but the court held that the government was immune to a lawsuit for negligence and that they were justified in conducting tests without subjects' knowledge. According to The Wall Street Journal, the Army stated that infections must have occurred inside the hospital and the US Attorney argued that they had to conduct tests in a populated area to see how a biological agent would affect that area.

    In 2005, the FDA stated that "Serratia marcescens bacteria ... can cause serious, life-threatening illness in patients with compromised immune systems." The bacteria has shown up in a few other Bay Area health crises since the 1950s, according to The San Francisco Chronicle, leading to some speculation that the original spraying could have established a new microbial population in the area.

    While Nevin lost his lawsuit, he said afterward, as quoted by Cole, "At least we are all aware of what can happen, even in this country ... I just hope the story won't be forgotten."
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    Related BBC Documentary on British Tests on British Population
    Another documented event was the St Louis MO spraying
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo8CmOpotW4
    where US Government Sprayed Toxic RADIOACTIVE Chemicals on unsuspecting Americans.

    9/11 WAS ANOTHER SUCH TEST
    http://www.asbestos.com/news/2013/09/11/asbestos-exposure-mesothelioma-threat-still-causing-uneasy-future-911-survivors/


    IF US GOVERNMENT sprayed San Francisco and St. Louis, they are capable of anything....Thanks Andrew

    http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/germ-warfare-tests-on-public.html


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    What's going on with chemtrails? 31 May 2016 16:47 #56

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    novum wrote:
    Ive postulated before that the criss cross effect of those plain trails is merely multiple planes taking off on the same flight paths, but some time apart.. as occurs with the busier airports in the larger cities... then with just the right wind current/drift, the entire trail will move over before the next plane takes off and lays the same trail.. the end result under the right conditions is a bunch of parallel lines in the sky.. then add a second flight path that happens to intersect those, and you get the criss cross or grid if you will happening.

    I see it unfolding myself in the sky above me many times.

    Im not denying that there are planes spraying shit up there, but sometimes when people cry chemtrails i dont think its the case, but what i just said doesnt go down to well with some. :hahano:

    And i think some photos of planes kitted out with chemicals + spray enabled and then claimed to be chemtrail planes are 'fake' .. ie they are simply agricultural planes that are spraying big crops for legitimate purposes (say what you want about chemical farming thats another story) .. but chemtrails, perhaps no, in some cases... im quite familiar with crops being aerial sprayed myself, especially the larger scale producers with the huge acreages. Spraying food with chemicals aint up my alley, but it aint chemtrails is what im saying.

    Not every trail in the sky is a chemtrail. Though im sure jet waste is unhealthy enough as it is to humans when it falls on them constantly. :hahano:
    Source: truth-zone.net/forum/science-and-physics/67207-the-impossibility-of-space-travel-ever.html?start=100#213791



    It's easy to compare the flight paths with what you see in the sky by using www.flightradar24.com
    and the patterns I observe just don't add up with the tracks on flightradar24. No way!


    And I will never forget those 3 or 4 days, as far as I recall it was end of summer, September,
    a few years ago when there was a NATO manoeuvre in the Baltic Sea:

    No stripes, no grid and uncountable people, including myself noted that something was totally different,
    the contrast in the overall perception was clearly palpable, everybody felt happy and sort of relieved
    from a heavy burden to which we apparantly had adapted and suddenly it was gone - hard to describe
    for those who did not experience it - completely clear minded ... like having awakened from a bad dream
    or something like that, but unfortunately it lasted only those few days.

    It felt like a certain "field" had been switched off.

    Make of it what you will.

    :)

    Further reference on TZ:

    :right: Chemtrails , harrp , scalar ect...... truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/64394-chemtrails-harrp-scalar-ect.html

    :right: Black Goo, Transhumanism, Geo-Engineering, Chemtrails, Morgellons truth-zone.net/forum/paranormal/63549-black-goo-transhumanism-geo-engineering-chemtrails-morgellons.html

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    where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
    feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 09 Oct 2016 23:18 #57

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 10 Oct 2016 16:43 #58

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    Belief in 'chemtrails' is a form of religion to some folks.
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    What's going on with chemtrails? 10 Oct 2016 16:59 #59

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    The difference between Chemtrails and Contrails.

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    What's going on with chemtrails? 12 Oct 2016 14:21 #60

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    Flare wrote:
    The difference between Chemtrails and Contrails.


    Amen
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