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Wasted investment caused by climate change alarmists: Australia has mothballed $10bn of desal plants 11 Jan 2015 23:30 #21

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Wasted investment caused by climate change alarmists: Australia has mothballed $10bn of desal plants 12 Jan 2015 12:59 #22

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Taxpayers rejoice! The science-propaganda agency is gone for good. One down — scores to go.

Tony Abbott was sworn in yesterday. Today Greg Hunt rang Tim Flannery to tell him the commission is closed. His $180,000 3-day-a-week job as a sales agent for “climate change” is over.

BREAKING (ABC):  The Abbott Government has abolished the Climate Commission, pushing ahead with its plan to scrap government bodies associated with Labor’s carbon pricing scheme and climate change policy.

The commission was set up under then prime minister Julia Gillard in February 2011 as an independent body “to provide reliable and authoritative” information on climate change.

Jo Nova applauds the Abbott government decision to cut waste and to stop funding an inept unscientific agency which was unbalanced to the point of beinggovernment advertising in disguise.  Today is a great day for taxpayers. This agency propped up billions of dollars in pointless futile government spending trying to change the weather. Nothing will bring back money spent on desal plants that were mothballed when the floods came that real scientists predicted. Likewise the money burned on solar panels and windfarms is gone for good too, and still going.

Emma Thompson reports on this from the ABC. As a fan of big-government she doesn’t challenge Flannery when he says the commission was independent and apolitical, despite it being completely dependent on government funds, not just to run, but to carry out its plans. And despite the fact that the commissionomitted every inconvenient fact it wanted to, presenting a continuously one-sided story that served their own personal agendas. She interviewed no citizens or scientists who might have expressed a view that this move was wholly beneficial, a good step scientifically or very sensible and popular.  (See my bolded quote above).

Tim Flannery speaks plain unvarnished nonsense:

“”We’ve stayed out of the politics and stuck to the facts,” he said.”

“As a result we’ve developed a reputation as a reliable apolitical source of facts on all aspects of climate change.

“I believe that Australians have a right to know – a right to authoritative, independent and accurate information on climate change.

In 2011 he compared “climate change deniers to flat Earth believers “. Another Flannery apolitical fact?

The Abbott government has these in their targets too, but needs to pass legislation to remove them:

“The Coalition Government also wants to dump the Climate Change Authority, which was set up in 2012 to provide independent advice to the government on the carbon price and emissions reductions targets.

Mr Hunt yesterday instructed his department to begin drafting repeal legislation to abolish the authority, in keeping with its over-riding plan to scrap the carbon pricing scheme.

In what is likely to be a harder task, the Government has also announced it is preparing legislation to scrap the Clean Energy Finance Corporation (CEFC).

Also set up in 2012, it has been provided with $10 billion in funding over five years to support private investment in renewable energy.”

It is not over yet. The Labor Party and Greens have left toxic bombs in the legislation they hope will stop the voters being able to remove unpopular, wasteful programs.

“…the Australian Conservation Foundation has released legal advice that the CEFC is “obliged to follow its legislated mandate and cannot be frustrated in that regard by attempted ministerial interference”.

It also says the board “would be obliged to ignore” any direction to cease operations.

If the Climate Commission had served the public they would have helped the public understand the limitations of models, their failed predictions, their weak assumptions, and they would have revealed that renewable energy rarely reduces CO2, and that even if it did, Australian’s were not likely to reduce global temperatures by even 0.01C without spending exorbitant sums. If they had served the public, they might still have jobs.
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Wasted investment caused by climate change alarmists: Australia has mothballed $10bn of desal plants 12 Jan 2015 13:17 #23

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Turning up the heat on climate change alarmists

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John Roskam

In February this year, Penny Wong, the then climate change minister said: ‘Globally, 14 of the 15 warmest years on record occurred between 1995 and 2009' and she argued that the Bureau of Meteorology had concluded that ‘2009 was the second hottest year in Australia on record and ended our hottest decade. In Australia, each decade since the 1940s has been warmer than the last.'

It is claims such as these that provide the justification for Australia putting a ‘price on carbon' to reduce our emissions of carbon dioxide. However, as Professor Bob Carter explains, what Penny Wong said might be true, but in the debate about climate change the minister's claims are meaningless. As Carter says ‘Minister Wong's statement, and others like it, are scientifically trivial and appear to be deliberately intended to mislead. In reality it is no more significant that 14 of the last 15 years are the warmest since instrumental records began than it is that the hottest days of each year cluster around and shortly after midsummer's day.'

That's because we only have about 150 years of accurate, instrument-measured, temperature records. In the context of the history of the earth's climate what's occurred in the last few decades is not unusual. In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries temperatures increased following the ‘Little Ice Age', successive phases of which lasted from roughly 1350 to 1860. The Little Ice Age followed the ‘Mediaeval Warm Period' of 800 to 1000 AD. Reconstructed temperatures for the Mediaeval Warm Period are based upon proxy data such as tree ring analysis and various geochemical measurements, which imply that at many localities temperatures then were as warm or warmer than those of today. Similarly, during the ‘Holocene climatic optimum' of several thousand years ago, temperatures were a degree or so warmer than they are now; during the last interglacial period 125,000 years ago temperatures were approximately two degrees warmer than now; and six million years ago, temperatures were about two to three degrees warmer than now.

None of this was mentioned by Penny Wong. Nor did she mention that it is likely that global temperatures peaked in 1998 and started declining in 2002. The new minister for climate change, Greg Combet, hasn't taken the trouble to talk about any of this either.

As we find out from Climate: The Counter Consensus there's lots of other things we haven't been told by those politicians who believe that humans are causing potentially catastrophic global warming and that therefore drastic action must be taken.

While the politicians are constantly telling the public ‘the science is settled' and there's a ‘consensus', they have never dared inform the public of the basic facts of climate change. Thankfully it's an omission rectified by Professor Carter.

Carbon dioxide, water vapour, methane, nitrous oxides, and ozone are called ‘greenhouse' gases because they absorb heat and warm the atmosphere. Without greenhouse gases the temperature of the earth's atmosphere would be about minus 19°C. The proportionate impact of each of the greenhouse gases on atmospheric warming is approximately as follows: 78 per cent from water vapour, 20 per cent from carbon dioxide, and 2 per cent from the other gases. Of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, up to 5 per cent is the result of burning fossil fuels. What this translates into is that 0.45 per cent of the greenhouse warming in a particular year is the result of human activity. Or expressed in another way, 99.55 per cent of the greenhouse effect has nothing to do with carbon dioxide emissions caused by humans. It's widely acknowledged that partly as a result of human activity atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, but as Carter points out the impact of this increase is disputed. For one thing our understanding of important processes like the exchange of carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the oceans remains limited. But the context is clear, for:

even if human emissions were to be reduced to zero, the difference would be lost among other uncertainties in the global carbon budget. What is presently missing from the public debate, then - and it is not provided by computer model outputs, either - is an appreciation of both the small scale (in context) of human emissions, and the range of uncertainty in the carbon budget.

Uncertainty, and the limits of our knowledge of climate change is a constant theme of Carter's book. What we do know is that the climate is constantly changing, and that the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been unable to demonstrate that anything that has so far happened to the earth's temperature is not part of normal climatic variation.

Carter's position on climate change can be summarised as follows:

There is unanimous agreement that human activities can affect climate at local scale; summed across the globe, these local affects may have a measurable effect on global climate; for the period of the instrumental record (say the last 100 years), however, climate change has proceeded at rates that lie within previous natural rates and magnitudes, and any anthropogenic effect cannot be distinguished from the noise and natural variation in the system.

There are few people in the world better able to marshal the evidence on climate change than Professor Bob Carter. He's an Emeritus Fellow of the Institute of Public Affairs and one of the world's leading climate change ‘sceptics'. His qualifications include a degree in geology from Otago University, and a PhD in palaeontology from Cambridge University, and he's taught at Otago University, the University of Adelaide, and James Cook University. Famously, Carter was a witness, against the scientific might of the UK's Meteorological Office, in the London High Court case which identified nine major errors in Al Gore's film An Inconvenient Truth.

Climate: The Counter Consensus is one of the very best expositions of both the science and the politics of climate change yet written. It can serve as an outstanding introduction to the issue of climate change, and as an accurate and up-to-date summary of the latest research. It includes a discussion of Climategate and the Copenhagen Conference. The range of scholarship that Professor Carter has mastered is astonishing. The language is clear and simple, but never over-simplified.

At the end of the book Carter asks the question ‘how did it come to this?' How did we get to the sort of the situation whereby in 2006 the former president of the Royal Society, Robert May told a meeting of BBC journalists and executives ‘that the science supporting global warming alarm was so certain that it was the BBC's public duty to cease providing airtime to alternative viewpoints.' How did we get to the position whereby policymakers around the world have been dictated to by a handful of scientists who have shown themselves willing to fabricate evidence, destroy original data, and defeat public scrutiny? How did we get to a situation whereby one of Australia's two major political parties is demanding a substantial reduction in the nation's standard-of-living which would make practically zero contribution to limiting the increase in global temperature?

In a nutshell, according to Carter what's happened is the result of ‘noble cause corruption', a modern political disease that has been analysed in depth by Tasmania's Professor Aynsley Kellow in his book Science and Public Policy. When belief in moral righteousness overwhelms dispassionate and disinterested research, noble cause corruption takes hold. The significance of Kevin Rudd calling climate change a ‘moral challenge' is that he was implying that anyone who disagreeing with him was not just wrong, they were immoral. Claims to a superior morality have little to do with science.

Vaclav Klaus, the president of the Czech Republic is quoted on what happens when noble cause corruption is turned into a political movement:

As someone who lived under communism for most of my life I feel obliged to say that the biggest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity at the beginning of the 21st century is not communism or its various softer variants. Communism (has been) replaced by the threat of ambitious environmentalism...

Man made climate change has become one of the most dangerous arguments aimed at distorting human efforts and public policies in the whole world.

There's much about the science of climate change in Carter's book that challenging and thought-provoking. But perhaps what gives the work a unique importance is that Carter is willing to also examine the socio-political pathology that now surrounds Australian public policy on climate change. And he's willing to be more than a critic -he's willing to chart a way forward through what he terms ‘Plan B: a fresh approach'.

Recall that the public argument over climate policy in Australia has already weakened the position of one Australian prime minister (Howard), toppled two successive leaders of the opposition (Nelson and Turnbull), helped to topple another prime minister (Rudd) and elevated another opposition leader to his current position (Abbott). Maybe a fresh approach might just be useful.

Carter's Plan B, also espoused by Nigel Lawson in the UK, is a classic no-regrets policy that is both cost-effective and politically feasible. It is that we acknowledge the very real dangers of natural climate change, and plan so as to minimize the impacts of future climate-related disasters by better preparation, and by adapting to such events-which include floods, storms, droughts and bushfires, as well as longer term climate trends-as and when they occur. As Carter concludes:

It is ... time to move away from stale ‘he-says-she-says' arguments about whether human carbon dioxide emissions are causing dangerous warming, and on to designing effective policies of hazard management for all climate change, based on adaptation responses that are tailored for individual countries or regions. The key issue on which all scientists agree is that natural climate change is real, and every year brings new examples that exemplify the substantial human and environmental damage that it can cause. By their very nature, strategies that can cope with the dangers and vagaries of natural climate change will readily cope with human caused change too should it ever become manifest.
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Climate Change's History

An Act of God, one could say. 

Climate change’s history — Syndicated columnist George Will

WASHINGTON — We know, because they often say so, that those who think catastrophic global warming is probable and perhaps imminent are exemplary empiricists. They say those who disagree with them are 'climate change deniers' disrespectful of science.

Actually, however, everyone can agree is that climate is always changing. And if climate Cassandras are as conscientious as they claim to be about weighing evidence, how do they accommodate historical evidence of enormously consequential episodes of climate change not produced by human activity? Before wagering vast wealth and curtailments of liberty on correcting the climate, two recent books should be considered.

In 'The Third Horseman: Climate Change and the Great Famine of the 14th Century,' William Rosen explains how Europe's 'most widespread and destructive famine' was the result of 'an almost incomprehensibly complicated mixture of climate, commerce, and conflict, four centuries in gestation.' Early in that century, 10 percent of the population from the Atlantic to the Urals died, partly because of the effect of climate change on 'the incredible amalgam of molecules that comprises a few inches of soil that produces the world's food.'

In the Medieval Warm Period (MWP), from the end of the ninth century to the beginning of the 14th, the Northern Hemisphere was warmer than at any time in the last 8,000 years — for reasons concerning which there is no consensus. Warming increased the amount of arable land — there were vineyards in northern England — leading, Rosen says, to Europe's 'first sustained population increase since the fall of the Roman Empire.' The need for land on which to grow cereals drove deforestation. The MWP population explosion gave rise to towns, textile manufacturing and new wealthy classes.

Then, near the end of the MWP, came the severe winters of 1309-1312, when polar bears could walk from Greenland to Iceland on pack ice. In 1315 there was rain for perhaps 155 consecutive days, washing away topsoil. Upwards of half the arable land in much of Europe was gone; cannibalism arrived as parents ate children. Corpses hanging from gallows were devoured.

Human behavior did not cause this climate change. Instead, climate warming caused behavioral change (10 million mouths to feed became 30 million). Then climate cooling caused social changes (rebelliousness and bellicosity) that amplified the consequences of climate, a pattern repeated four centuries later.

In 'Global Crisis: War, Climate Change & Catastrophe in the Seventeenth Century,' Geoffrey Parker, a history professor at Ohio State University, explains how a 'fatal synergy' between climatological and political factors produced turmoil from Europe to China. What he calls 'the placenta of the crisis' of that century included 'the Little Ice Age' (LIA) between the 1640s and the 1690s. Unusual weather, protracted enough to qualify as a change in climate, correlated so strongly with political upheavals as to constitute causation.

Whatever caused the LIA — decreased sunspot activity and increased seismic activity were important factors — it caused, among other horrific things, 'stunting' that, Parker says, 'reduced the average height of those born in 1675, the 'year without a summer,' or during the years of cold and famine in the early 1690s, to only 63 inches: the lowest ever recorded.'

In northerly latitudes, Parker says, each decline of 0.5 degrees Celsius in the mean summer temperature 'decreases the number of days on which crops ripen by 10 percent, doubles therisk of a single harvest failure, and increases the risk of a double failure sixfold,' For those farming at least 1,000 feet above sea level this temperature decline 'increases the chance of two consecutive failures a hundredfold.'

The flight from abandoned farms to cities produced 'the urban graveyard effect,' crises of disease, nutrition, water, sanitation, housing, fire, crime, abortion, infanticide, marriages forgone, and suicide. Given the ubiquity of desperation, it is not surprising that more wars took place during the 17th-century crisis 'than in any other era before the Second World War.'

By documenting the appalling consequences of two climate changes, Rosen and Parker validate wariness about behaviors that might cause changes. The last 12 of Parker's 712 pages of text deliver a scalding exhortation to be alarmed about what he considers preventable global warming. Neither book, however, supports those who believe human behavior is the sovereign or even primary disrupter of climate normality, whatever that might be. With the hands that today's climate Cassandras are not using to pat themselves on the back for their virtuous empiricism, they should pick up such books.

 
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What went wrong?

A major peer-reviewed climate physics paper in the first issue (January 2015: vol. 60 no. 1) of the prestigious Science Bulletin (formerly Chinese Science Bulletin, the journal of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and, as the Orient’s equivalent of Scienceor Nature, one of the world’s top six learned journals of science, exposes elementary but serious errors in the general-circulation models relied on by the UN’s climate panel, the IPCC. The errors were the reason for concern about Man’s effect on climate. Without them, there is no climate crisis.

Thanks to the generosity of the Heartland Institute, the paper is open-access. It may be downloaded free fromhttp://www.scibull.com:8080/EN/abstract/abstract509579.shtml. Click on “PDF” just above the abstract.

The IPCC has long predicted that doubling the CO2 in the air might eventually warm the Earth by 3.3 C°. However, the new, simple model presented in theScience Bulletin predicts no more than 1 C° warming instead – and possibly much less. The model, developed over eight years, is so easy to use that a high-school math teacher or undergrad student can get credible results in minutes running it on a pocket scientific calculator.

The paper, Why models run hot: results from an irreducibly simple climate model, by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley, Willie Soon, David Legates and Matt Briggs, survived three rounds of tough peer review in which two of the reviewers had at first opposed the paper on the ground that it questioned the IPCC’s predictions.

When the paper’s four authors first tested the finished model’s global-warming predictions against those of the complex computer models and against observed real-world temperature change, their simple model was closer to the measured rate of global warming than all the projections of the complex “general-circulation” models:

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Thanks for link to Monkton & Co's pdf paper. I use Google Chrome at the moment. It's OK for general use but I find it often fails to function, (perhaps by design?), when trying to access info that contradicts the "official line" on important issues. I got to the page but the PDF download refused to function. I then tried Internet Explorer and the download worked. Just saying ......if other Chrome users are having the same problem downloading the pdf try IE. The paper is well worth a read......... :up:
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The Australian prime minister's chief business adviser says that climate change is a ruse led by the United Nations to create a new world order under the agency's control. The statement coincided with a visit from the UN's top climate negotiator.



Maurice Newman, chairman of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's business advisory council, said the UN is using false models which show sustained temperature increases because it wants to end democracy and impose authoritarian rule.

"It's a well-kept secret, but 95 percent of the climate models we are told prove the link between human CO2 emissions and catastrophic global warming have been found, after nearly two decades of temperature stasis, to be in error," he wrote in an opinion piece published in The Australian newspaper on Friday, without providing evidence.

"The real agenda is concentrated political authority. Global warming is the hook,” he said, adding that the UN is against capitalism and freedom and wants to create a “new world order.”

The adviser's inflammatory comments coincided with a visit from UN climate chief Christiana Figueres.

According to Newman, Figueres is “on record saying democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. Communist China, she says, is the best model.”

Figueres was in Australia to discuss practical climate change action, urging the country to move away from heavily polluting coal production. She also urged Australia to play a leading role at the climate summit in Paris in December.

But that call is unlikely to be heeded. During November's G20 meeting in Brisbane, Abbott warned that the Paris summit would fail if world leaders decided prioritize the cutting of carbon emissions over economic growth.

Abbott, who called the science behind climate change “crap” in 2009, also repealed a tax on carbon pricing and abolished the independent Climate Commission advisory body in Australia.

The prime minister has been reluctant to take part in climate change politics, trying but failing to keep it off the agenda at last year's G20 summit.

Both Abbott's office and the United Nations have so far declined to comment on Newman's statements.

A well-known climate change skeptic, Newman has made similar provocative comments in the past, calling the notion a “myth” and a “delusion.”
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I missed this thread when nov posted it - and I'll read through ..but just 'off hand' - the IPCC is totally corrupt , along with all the poliTICians - they know exactly what both the natural and weather warfare manipulated weather is doing .
This funds aren't 'wasted' - they are embezzled .
The desal plants have been 'mothballed' because they don't want an abundant clean water source - they want the scarcity AND the want the land infertile - so it can to be sold off cheap - probably to the Chinese.
There are other sinister ramifications to what they're doing and none of them are in the goyim's best interest.
With the impact of fracking and immigration / migration to the cities - $10B is a drop in the bucket these days - the UK GIVES the EU $20B a yr. to turn the UK into a toxic dump for France .
Australia , like other 'western' countries id under Agenda 21 and the under the yoke of the usual Talmudic parasites out to cull at max profit.

Even if they all came out and said 'we had it all wrong' - at this point it hardly matters - they're achieving what they want - once these TTP and TAP go through - all sovereignty will be lost .
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Lizzy wrote:
This funds aren't 'wasted' - they are embezzled.

I agree... the title of the thread was taken from the article, but the fact is that they know exactly what they are doing, which is 'public' taxpayers money going to private corporations to ultimately provide returns to wealthy private shareholders, same old same old. (this is a big fucking deal said biden to obama, that was their biggest one yet)
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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