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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 20 Jan 2018 14:41 #101

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Gaia wrote:
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deliberately spreading disinformation.
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flat Earhers (all inclusive) no planers, holocaust deniers, etc etc..are one in the same.

The schizoaspie of TZ.

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 30 Jan 2018 03:34 #102

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Because you are a guest. I can't like your post.

But I do like your post.

For Millennia people thought the earth was flat afaik, so investigating the subject is not necessarily a distraction from the NWO or in my words Jew World Order. I'm not a scientist, so much of the information is beyond me.

There may be powerful Jews behind the flat earth theory to distract the population, but who be can sure if this is the case.

Contrary to Zorro saying not to waste my time on this theory .... I'll do as I choose, as I always do! :D


I appreciate your encouragement in the face of such strong and misguided opposition. I'm not sure we go back for millennia or even close to that in fact? Heliocentrism in its current guise certainly doesn't go back beyond about 500 years, and only really took hold in the last hundred years through indoctrinated schooling, and the decline of western religions, as far as I'm able to tell. Having said that you're correct in thinking that our ancestors understood that the earth is a fixed stationary plane, as historical records plainly demonstrate. In fact it was a generally accepted fact up until recently even in Western civilisations.



Of course the nay sayers who seem to have lost touch with reality and their five senses will attempt to claim other wise, despite observable and demonstrable facts and evidence.

I support your stance to trust your own mind despite others attempting to discourage your personal pursuit of knowledge, based on genuine unbiased research. It takes courage to investigate subjects that challenge conventional group think, and accept that you may have been deceived on an unimaginable scale.

"I'm not a scientist, so much of the information is beyond me." That's a fallacy 'appeal to authority'...you are as capable as anyone else to establish the fact that we do not live on a space ball. All your senses are telling you that you live on a stationary plane.

I have to laugh at the nay sayers when the evidence is in plain sight, and easily verified first hand on a personal level. Furthermore the evidence is immovable removing all possibility of a cover up.

It's interesting to note that not one element of my argument has been challenged by the nay sayers. The indoctrination has totally consumed them, to such a degree that they are no longer able to trust their own senses to discern fact from fiction.

I have no idea who is responsible for creating the original fraud, or whether the renewed interest in exposing it is being controlled? Regardless of who is responsible the fact of the matter is we don't live on a spinning ball. It also means that governments, academics and media etc. are supporting the fraud, so they are all complicit regardless of any group they belong to.

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You seem to be assuming that I believe the earth is flat, when I made no such claim! Your response/reaction is a clear demonstration of your failure to comprehend information accurately, without apply personal bias and fallacious reasoning.

For clarity what I know is that we do not live on a magical spinning ball that is hurtling through infinite space. I have no idea whether or not this realm is flat throughout its entirety. The fact is that the known area that we can observe is a flat plane, with various geographic contours of varying heights and depths (i.e. no one claims the Earth is flat in an absolute or the literal sense). Simple observation of the horizon, and the natural behaviour of vast bodies of water, determine that we do not live on the outer surface of a ball. Simple geometry and a rudimentary understanding of perspective verify observable facts. The horizon always rises to the height of the observers eye level. Water always finds its own level and conforms to the shape of whatever contains it.

You are assuming/imagining that other so called planetary objects, planets and moons are in fact spherical physical masses, when you have no practical method of verifying such a claim! When you look out across a field and observe a herd of cattle do you automatically assume you're a cow? The fact of the matter is no one knows the precise distance, shape or physical composition of any so called planetary object, within the Solar system. Everything the heliocentric theory claims beyond the physical limitations of earth and its immediate atmosphere is based on assumptions and theories. Furthermore most if not all the founding scientific claims that are based on our physical surroundings are nothing more than theories, which can not be demonstrated practically nor replicated in physical models, much less repeated. The reason for that is the fact that those theories require the implementation of generally accepted assumptions, rather than demonstrable and repeatable facts. Valid science can't be asserted as a fact when it requires a general consensus of acceptable opinions and assumptions.

Feel free to provide evidence of a scientific experiment that can be repeated and validated by others to prove the Earth is in fact a sphere in motion?

Things didn't go that well for Michelson-Morley.


Airy's Failure seems to validate the lack of motion.


Please explain how it is possible to determine that the Sun is 93000000 miles away, without 'assuming/guessing/inventing' the known distance of another planetary object? While doing that try to consider how it is possible to establish the size and distance of a reference object, to be used use as the basis of the assumed known distance, by which to calculate the distance of the Sun, or any other extraterrestrial object for that matter? By the way, I'm fully aware of the fact that 'assumed known distance' is an oxymoron.

If the so called Law of Gravity (it's a theory by the way) states that the influence of big G's force on opposing object increases or decreases dependent on distance and mass, in accordance with the inverse square law, how do planetary objects maintain stable orbits, despite continually increasing and decreasing variations (elliptical orbits) in the distances between multiple objects of greater or lesser masses? I would be interested to see a practical demonstration which provides a working solution to a three object problem? I'm sure there is an ideal opportunity for the creator of such an example to obtain a Nobel prize.

Here's a visual aid demonstrating the Heliocentric model


Gravity? Sure!


Please explain how an observer can observe a horizon consistently at eye level at any elevation if they are standing on a ball? Basic geometry correctly and clearly demonstrates that the observable horizon on a spherical object must fall below the observers eye line, equally in all directions, at an ever increasing rate of decline with respect to any increase in elevation.

Here's another visual aid for those with poor geometry and spacial awareness skills


Under what conditions is it possible to retain a large mass of water upon the outer surface of a spinning ball? I would be very interested to see examples of practical and repeatable scientific demonstrations!



If I'm as stupid as you infer you should have no problem establishing your superior intellect, by providing sound answers to the questions posed to you above. I'm sure others in this thread eagerly await my humiliation, upon your rapid verifiable responses to all of the questions raised. Meanwhile Roastie and I shall share a carton of popcorn, while staring out at the passing tumble weed.

And for those with eyes to see and functional left and right hemispheres of their brain, who have self awareness and trust their own senses, check this out and digest.


The Moon is not a spherical object and anyone can observe that fact first hand, without the need for any specialist equipment. You can also model it here on earth, and establish exactly how light and shadows fall on spheres, as well as flat disks, by casting shadows using various combinations of the objects. All you need are two footballs and two table tennis bats and a light source. Cast a shadow on one ball using the other ball, and then do the same using one of the bats. Now repeat using one bat to cast a shadow upon the other and then use one of the balls to cast the shadow. Your observations should tell you everything you need to know. Of course you wont do the experiment yourself will you? Luckily for you a similar demonstration is provided in the video above. My guess is you wont take the time to watch the video, in case you are places in a position where you have to start accepting the reality you live in! I'm not sure why anyone would value their ignorance so highly?

@Flare no offence was taken from Gaia's response, because no substance was presented to dispel any of the issues raised. Anyone witnessing the absence of substance should recognise the weaknesses in Gaia's post.

The joke is Gaia seems to have managed to figure out that rockets can't and don't function in space (a vacuum). The notion of space and space travel is a complete and utter fraud! It shouldn't be too challenging for anyone capable of thought to understand that by extension the shape of the earth NASA presents is also false. They provided/presented fake images of Earth as a sphere using the fake space program and lunar missions. I doubt Gaia has ever stopped to consider the fact that presenting those pictures was a primary objective of the program, in order to seal the magical space ball fraud?


@Gaia You stated "Heliocentric or geocentric is irrelevant." which suggests there is no value in understanding the very nature of the reality you/we live in, or what the wider implications are if our understanding is based on a fraud. While you may willingly accept being deceived there are growing numbers of people who don't appreciate the deception, and all that it entails. If you choose to believe you are riding along on a magical space ball, created from nothing, that amounts to little more than a speck of dust, travelling within the vacuum of an endless expanse of ever expanding space, conveniently trapped within a goldilocks zone, good for you. Enjoy the ride.

@backfromthebrink Gaia is right about what exactly?

Simply reviewing the content of post in this thread in support of the Heliocentric model should be enough for the discerning mind to question the validity of the theoretical heliocentric model.

Open your eyes people and trust your own mind and senses. That's all that's required...no one needs to appeal to some third-party academic/scientist with a phd, or worse someone claiming to be a 'theoretical physicist/scientist or astro-theologist' (the clue is in the name).

The NASA budget is over 50 million dollars a day, in order to support the ball earth deception. Most of that money goes to deep state projects designed to secure your enslavement.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 30 Jan 2018 04:01 #103

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You use the non sequitur fallacy; "NASA lies, so the Earth is flat".
@Gaia You stated "Heliocentric or geocentric is irrelevant." which suggests there is no value in understanding the very nature of the reality you/we live in, or what the wider implications are if our understanding is based on a fraud. While you may willingly accept being deceived there are growing numbers of people who don't appreciate the deception, and all that it entails. If you choose to believe you are riding along on a magical space ball, created from nothing, that amounts to little more than a speck of dust, travelling within the vacuum of an endless expanse of ever expanding space, conveniently trapped within a goldilocks zone, good for you. Enjoy the ride.

No, what it "suggests" is that the position of Earth with respect to the observable celestial bodies (Sun, Moon, the ancient planets until Saturn, stars, comets, etc.) has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.

I have spent thousands of hours with flattards and am back with some of them right now.

It's a pity this clear psyop has infested the minds of otherwise sharp thinkers.

I have produced 2 videos proving the Earth cannot be flat, so you're way behind here.

This post already... the Moon HAS TO BE a sphere. Because only a sphere (3D object) can look like a circle (2D object) when seen from different angles. No other shaped object can produce that.

Flat Earth fails in everything;
- no views behind the horizon
- wrong explanation about the horizon "perspective" vs curvature
- never produced a correct map (2D object) of the "Flat" Earth (if that's 2D it should be an easy-peasy job)
- no explanation for plate tectonics that fails on a flat Earth
- Sun and Moon cannot be observed as we do with them in size, angle and sets and rises
- never predicted a lunar or solar eclipse

and many more points.

It's a sick disinfo strategy used to swipe good analysis of NASA fakery under the rag of idiocy.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 13 Feb 2018 16:32 #104

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Excellent, easy to understand videos confirming Flat Earthers are just trolls:

- the southern celestial pole is IMPOSSIBLE in Flat Earth:


- the Moon as we see her is IMPOSSIBLE in Flat Earth:


Highly recommend watch, especially for you Roastie, as you were "on the fence".
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 13 Feb 2018 22:28 #105

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I honestly cannot believe that this whole flat earth thing is a anymore than some convincing trolls that are leading fools along by the nose.
No one with any sense can take it as anymore than this.
"trust your senses" is either a troll perpetuating the bullshit, or is a fool that has fallen for it.
All flat earthers fit in either slot.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 24 Feb 2018 17:16 #106

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 24 Feb 2018 17:34 #107

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A lovely lunar eclipse, as seen by FlatEarthers.

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 25 Feb 2018 14:18 #108

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I don't recall seeing them, here is a photo from the NASA website of the Earth, I don't see stars on it.

www.nasa.gov/image-feature/nasa-captures-epic-earth-image

I saw it in a vid somewhere here, perhaps i just cant remember which one. The stars wouldve been added.

What are the reasons for not being able to see stars in photos from space. :dunno:

Apparently stars don't show up on photos due to their dimness, even if you take a photo of the night sky from Earth. Unless you have a decent camera with the correct setting. I don't know much about photography, but if you take a photo of the night sky with an average mobile phone camera, stars don't appear on the photo.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 25 Feb 2018 14:27 #109

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The flat Earth theory is bollocks.

The twat Gaia doesn't read the thread and posts the same videos over again.... :iitm:
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 25 Feb 2018 19:15 #110

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Yeah, stars are dim because suns are dim. M'kay
You are dim , Spacca. It would be too logical to research astral photography for an answer, anyone serious about photographing solar displays is going to use a proper camera and lens. Not that you'd ever understand logic you logically dissolute prat. Shoa yourself and get on that electrified, pedal powered, sausage making skull bashing extermination machine.
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Lux Interior wrote:
Yeah, stars are dim because suns are dim. M'kay
You are dim , Spacca. It would be too logical to research astral photography for an answer, anyone serious about photographing solar displays is going to use a proper camera and lens. Not that you'd ever understand logic you logically dissolute prat. Shoa yourself and get on that electrified, pedal powered, sausage making skull bashing extermination machine.

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Do you ever comment on the thread, or just troll other members?
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Lux Interior wrote:
Yeah, stars are dim because suns are dim. M'kay
You are dim , Spacca. It would be too logical to research astral photography for an answer, anyone serious about photographing solar displays is going to use a proper camera and lens. Not that you'd ever understand logic you logically dissolute prat. Shoa yourself and get on that electrified, pedal powered, sausage making skull bashing extermination machine.

As I already said, no wonder you usually stick to posting one liners, look at the state of your posts when you type more....

Of course someone is going to use a proper lens if they're going to specifically photograph stars you absolute plonker!!

The point is, there would not be stars on the photos of the moon, or Earth as those lenses are set to capture different exposure, as are the cameras on the 'car is space'.

So you won't see stars on photography unless you have the correct lens equipment and specific settings, as I said already.

I'm not going into another three day explanation to pacify a lame troll.

Obviously the bringer of our daylight, the star Sun is much brighter because it's much closer, you half baked twonk, if it was much further away like other stars it would appear dim to us also and would not show up on photography unless as I said, the correct equipment and settings were used.

Have you got anything else to say on the topic? Because it is quite amusing watching you make an arse out of your self... :larf:
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Yeah, stars are dim because suns are dim. M'kay
You are dim , Spacca. It would be too logical to research astral photography for an answer, anyone serious about photographing solar displays is going to use a proper camera and lens. Not that you'd ever understand logic you logically dissolute prat. Shoa yourself and get on that electrified, pedal powered, sausage making skull bashing extermination machine.

What-A-Twat.
Do you ever comment on the thread, or just troll other members?

It's astounding that Pfiz is banned and not this TROLL MUNTER fool, like her or not, at least she has provided constructive points for the forum categories.

This prick the fool MUNTY is a waste of cyber space, destructive, low life housing scheme scum. Of value, he contributes nothing. He's not even any good at trolling...it's just one big cringe :emb:

And if that's not bad enough, he hardly ever logs out, he's got nothing better to do......:killinme:

Oh, and creates a thread about Pfiz in the general section to cause a distraction from the fact that it should be his ass that got fired out instead...


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Fungi Tobewi wrote:
bd wrote:
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Yeah, stars are dim because suns are dim. M'kay
You are dim , Spacca. It would be too logical to research astral photography for an answer, anyone serious about photographing solar displays is going to use a proper camera and lens. Not that you'd ever understand logic you logically dissolute prat. Shoa yourself and get on that electrified, pedal powered, sausage making skull bashing extermination machine.

What-A-Twat.
Do you ever comment on the thread, or just troll other members?

It's astounding that Pfiz is banned and not this TROLL MUNTER fool, like her or not, at least she has provided constructive points for the forum categories.

This prick the fool MUNTY is a waste of cyber space, destructive, low life housing scheme scum. Of value, he contributes nothing. He's not even any good at trolling...it's just one big cringe :emb:

And if that's not bad enough, he hardly ever logs out, he's got nothing better to do......:killinme:

Oh, and creates a thread about Pfiz in the general section to cause a distraction from the fact that it should be his ass that got fired out instead...


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It really bugs your OCD that I didn't post in a section to your liking doesn't it? Still, you have the fat poof on board so that's alright. FAF.
And that thread isn't going your way either is it? You might consider requesting a cyberhug from vd once he finally comes up for air from his canuck gloryhole.
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I've never seen a poll on the David Icke Forum to ban any subject, but the Mighty Zhiba (a moderator) decided
to start a thread to ban Flat Earthers!

He says:

"And, my personal thought on this is that they only exist to make the make the conspiracy world and alternative media look bad by association.

So, do we need them?"

So the reptilian conspiracy is OK, but a flat earth theory is out of the question! Hmmmmmm


forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=320867

It sounds to me like David Icke doesn't like Flat Earthers, although he's OK with Jews and Judaism. Just saying.

I'm going to buy "The Greatest Lie on Earth" to get a better understanding. I believe Edward Hendrie knows his stuff about the chosen ones, connecting a possible lie promoted by Judaism and the Talmud. Who'd have thought they would lie about such a thing!



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"Phenomenal book. Having read Zetetic Astronomy immediately prior, I was familiar with some of the arguments. But Hendrie is a little bit more thorough and convincing in his arguments. Furthermore, he has the benefit of high-res photo evidence, which Rowbotham did not have at his disposal. I was pleased to see Hendrie delve into the moon hoax, another subject I've been interested in. I've tried twice to get through Dark Mission by Richard Hoagland and twice have failed. The book is dry and, to me, not very believable. So I was pleased again when Hendrie affirmed a thought I had about Hoagland. Quote: "Bill Kaysing has good reason to believe that Hoagland is a shill working for NASA, who is trying to divert attention away from the fact that NASA never went to the moon." (p. 183)

The final half of the book turns toward the pervasive influence of Judaism throughout the world, including science. This was an unexpected twist, but it fits perfectly -- and, again, dovetails nicely with my research into the Holocaust, Zionism, false flags, etc. The book's primary shortcoming is that it does not address the issue of satellites. I have been looking for a comprehensive text or video on this subject, but have not found one yet."
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What is your best guess as to the purpose of this deception, roastie? How does this fit into the jewish total conquest of mankind agenda exactly, to your knowledge?
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What is your best guess as to the purpose of this deception, roastie? How does this fit into the jewish total conquest of mankind agenda exactly, to your knowledge?

Hello Curious Guest

I haven't concluded it's a deception, nor have I stated it's a Jewish agenda to conquer mankind, but that's a possibility.

I'm formulating some ideas .... Satan and God, Creationism, Geocentrism and what the Talmud says about flat earth, which appears to be conflicting.

I'll post my thoughts when I've read Hendrie's book and done some independent research.

In the meantime, George Orwell wrote in 1946 the following quote:





The book 1984, published in 1949 has this interesting extract:

"But how can you control matter?' he burst out. 'You don't even control the climate or the law of gravity. And there are disease, pain, death --'

O'Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. 'We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation -- anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.'

'But you do not! You are not even masters of this planet. What about Eurasia and Eastasia? You have not conquered them yet.'

'Unimportant. We shall conquer them when it suits us. And if we did not, what difference would it make? We can shut them out of existence. Oceania is the world.'

'But the world itself is only a speck of dust. And man is tiny helpless! How long has he been in existence? For millions of years the earth was uninhabited.'

'Nonsense. The earth is as old as we are, no older. How could it be older? Nothing exists except through human consciousness.'

'But the rocks are full of the bones of extinct animals -- mammoths and mastodons and enormous reptiles which lived here long before man was ever heard of.'

'Have you ever seen those bones, Winston? Of course not. Nineteenth-century biologists invented them. Before man there was nothing. After man, if he could come to an end, there would be nothing. Outside man there is nothing.'

'But the whole universe is outside us. Look at the stars! Some of them are a million light-years away. They are out of our reach for ever.'

'What are the stars?' said O'Brien indifferently. 'They are bits of fire a few kilometres away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out. The earth is the centre of the universe. The sun and the stars go round it.'

Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection:

'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?'
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Ah yes, eclipses. How do they occur in FE world? Has any Globe World Denier done a youtube vid explaining them yet?

As to "outside man there is nothing", I don't buy that usually religiously motivated clap-trap. I'd need a better argument than an extract from a fiction writer's limited imagination to convince me, that's for sure.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 28 Feb 2018 18:13 #120

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curiousobserver wrote:
Ah yes, eclipses. How do they occur in FE world?

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