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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 28 Feb 2018 18:15 #121

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"Outside man, there is nothing?"
What ridiculous anthropocentric drivel.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 02 Mar 2018 11:16 #122

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If FE tards are to be believed, everybody mentioned in the following link must either be idiots, jews, or at least employed by jews.

Hermann Noordung's Das Problem der Befahrung des Weltraums, published here in English translation, was one of the classic writings about spaceflight. Its author, whose real name was Herman Potocnik, was an obscure former captain in the Austrian army who became an engineer. He was born on 22 December 1892 in Pola (later, Pula), the chief Austro-Hungarian naval station, located on the Adriatic in what is today Croatia. As the location might suggest in part, his father served in the navy as a staff medical officer. The name Potocnik is Slovenian, also the nationality of Herman's mother, who had some Czech ancestors as well. The young man was educated in various places in the Habsburg monarchy, attending an elementary school in Marburg (later, Maribor) in what is today Slovenia. He enrolled in military schools with emphases on science and mathematics as well as languages for his intermediate and secondary schooling, in the obscure town of Fischau, Lower Austria, and in Mährisch-Weißkirchen (later the Czech city of Hranice), respectively.

Following that, he attended the technical military academy in Mödling southwest of Vienna. Upon graduation, he received his commission as a lieutenant in the Austro-Hungarian army, where he served during World War I in a railroad (guard) regiment. From 1918 to 1922 he studied electrical engineering at the Technical Institute in Vienna, although tuberculosis had forced him to leave the army in 1919. While he appears to have set up a practice as an engineer, his illness evidently prevented him from working in that capacity. But he did become interested in the spaceflight movement. He contributed monetarily to the journal of the German Society for Space Travel (Verein für Raumschiffahrt or VfR), Die Rakete (The Rocket), begun in 1927, and he corresponded with Hermann Oberth (1894-1989), whose book Die Rakete zu den Planetenräumen (The Rocket into Interplanetary Space, published in 1923) essentially launched the spaceflight movement in Germany and laid the theoretical foundations for future space efforts there. Another correspondent was Baron Guido von Pirquet (1880-1966), who wrote a series of articles on interplanetary travel routes in Die Rakete during 1928 that suggested space stations as depots for supplying fuel and other necessaries to interplanetary rockets. The rockets, in his conception, would be launched from the stations rather than from the Earth to avoid the amounts of propellants required for escape from the home planet's gravitational field, which would be much weaker at the distance of a few hundred kilometers.

Oberth encouraged Potocnik to express his ideas about rocketry and space travel in a book, which he completed with its 100 illustrations in 1928. Potocnik's gratitude to Oberth and the enthusiasts around him in Germany led the still young but ailing engineer to assume the pen name of Noordung (referring to the German word for north, Nord) in honor of the fellow space enthusiasts to his north. He published the book with Richard Carl Schmidt & Co. in Berlin in 1929, only to die soon afterwards on 27 August 1929 of tuberculosis. (1)

Potocnik's book dealt, as its title suggests, with a broad range of topics relating to space travel, although the rocket motor that forms the book's subtitle was not especially prominent among them. What makes the book important in the early literature about space travel is its extensive treatment of the engineering aspects of a space station. Potocnik was hardly the first person to write about this subject, as the comment about Pirquet above would suggest. The idea in fictional form dates back to 1869-1870 when American minister and writer Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909) published "The Brick Moon" serially in The Atlantic Monthly. The German mathematics teacher, philosopher, and historian of science Kurd Laßwitz (1848-1910) followed this up in 1897 with his novel Auf zwei Planeten (on two planets), which featured a Martian space station supported by antigravity that served as a staging point for space travel. (2) Two years before the appearance of Laßwitz's book, the earliest of the recognized pioneers of spaceflight theory, the Russian school teacher Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky (1857-1935), published a work of science fiction entitled (in English translation) Reflections on Earth and Heaven and the Effects of Universal Gravitation (1895) in which he discussed asteroids and artificial satellites as bases for rocket launches. He also discussed the creation of artificial gravity on the man-made space stations through rotation. (3) Unlike Laßwitz, Tsiolkovsky was not content with science fiction, however. Between 1911 and 1926, the Russian spaceflight theorist expanded his ideas and subjected them to mathematical calculation. In the process, he elaborated a concept of a space station as a base for voyages into space but did not develop it in any detail. (4) Others in what was then the Soviet Union also developed ideas about space stations, (5) but they were little known in the West. Thus, for the development there of conceptions about space stations the writings of Oberth were much more important. The Romanian-German spaceflight theorist wrote briefly about "observation stations" in his 1923 book and discussed some of their possible uses such as observation and military reconnaissance of the Earth, service as a fueling station, and the like. (6) In the expanded and more popular version of his book published in 1929, Wege zur Raumschiffahrt (translated as Ways to Spaceflight), Oberth covered these ideas in more detail, but he devoted most of his attention to a space mirror that could reflect solar energy upon a single point on Earth or upon a wider region for keeping northern ports free of ice in winter, illuminating large cities at night, and other applications.

ps. Oh, wait, it's got nasa in the link, therefore nothing within the link can be taken seriously. :roll:
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 03 Mar 2018 00:51 #123

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Globalist propaganda to brainwash your kitty.

The poop is flat.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 03 Mar 2018 13:20 #124

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trust your senses wrote:
Roastie wrote:
Because you are a guest. I can't like your post.

But I do like your post.

For Millennia people thought the earth was flat afaik, so investigating the subject is not necessarily a distraction from the NWO or in my words Jew World Order. I'm not a scientist, so much of the information is beyond me.

There may be powerful Jews behind the flat earth theory to distract the population, but who be can sure if this is the case.

Contrary to Zorro saying not to waste my time on this theory .... I'll do as I choose, as I always do! :D

I appreciate your encouragement in the face of such strong and misguided opposition. I'm not sure we go back for millennia or even close to that in fact? Heliocentrism in its current guise certainly doesn't go back beyond about 500 years, and only really took hold in the last hundred years through indoctrinated schooling, and the decline of western religions, as far as I'm able to tell. Having said that you're correct in thinking that our ancestors understood that the earth is a fixed stationary plane, as historical records plainly demonstrate. In fact it was a generally accepted fact up until recently even in Western civilisations.

Of course the nay sayers who seem to have lost touch with reality and their five senses will attempt to claim other wise, despite observable and demonstrable facts and evidence.

I support your stance to trust your own mind despite others attempting to discourage your personal pursuit of knowledge, based on genuine unbiased research. It takes courage to investigate subjects that challenge conventional group think, and accept that you may have been deceived on an unimaginable scale.

"I'm not a scientist, so much of the information is beyond me." That's a fallacy 'appeal to authority'...you are as capable as anyone else to establish the fact that we do not live on a space ball. All your senses are telling you that you live on a stationary plane.

I have to laugh at the nay sayers when the evidence is in plain sight, and easily verified first hand on a personal level. Furthermore the evidence is immovable removing all possibility of a cover up.

It's interesting to note that not one element of my argument has been challenged by the nay sayers. The indoctrination has totally consumed them, to such a degree that they are no longer able to trust their own senses to discern fact from fiction.

I have no idea who is responsible for creating the original fraud, or whether the renewed interest in exposing it is being controlled? Regardless of who is responsible the fact of the matter is we don't live on a spinning ball. It also means that governments, academics and media etc. are supporting the fraud, so they are all complicit regardless of any group they belong to.

You seem to be assuming that I believe the earth is flat, when I made no such claim! Your response/reaction is a clear demonstration of your failure to comprehend information accurately, without apply personal bias and fallacious reasoning.

For clarity what I know is that we do not live on a magical spinning ball that is hurtling through infinite space. I have no idea whether or not this realm is flat throughout its entirety. The fact is that the known area that we can observe is a flat plane, with various geographic contours of varying heights and depths (i.e. no one claims the Earth is flat in an absolute or the literal sense). Simple observation of the horizon, and the natural behaviour of vast bodies of water, determine that we do not live on the outer surface of a ball. Simple geometry and a rudimentary understanding of perspective verify observable facts. The horizon always rises to the height of the observers eye level. Water always finds its own level and conforms to the shape of whatever contains it.

You are assuming/imagining that other so called planetary objects, planets and moons are in fact spherical physical masses, when you have no practical method of verifying such a claim! When you look out across a field and observe a herd of cattle do you automatically assume you're a cow? The fact of the matter is no one knows the precise distance, shape or physical composition of any so called planetary object, within the Solar system. Everything the heliocentric theory claims beyond the physical limitations of earth and its immediate atmosphere is based on assumptions and theories. Furthermore most if not all the founding scientific claims that are based on our physical surroundings are nothing more than theories, which can not be demonstrated practically nor replicated in physical models, much less repeated. The reason for that is the fact that those theories require the implementation of generally accepted assumptions, rather than demonstrable and repeatable facts. Valid science can't be asserted as a fact when it requires a general consensus of acceptable opinions and assumptions.

Feel free to provide evidence of a scientific experiment that can be repeated and validated by others to prove the Earth is in fact a sphere in motion?

Things didn't go that well for Michelson-Morley.

Airy's Failure seems to validate the lack of motion.

Please explain how it is possible to determine that the Sun is 93000000 miles away, without 'assuming/guessing/inventing' the known distance of another planetary object? While doing that try to consider how it is possible to establish the size and distance of a reference object, to be used use as the basis of the assumed known distance, by which to calculate the distance of the Sun, or any other extraterrestrial object for that matter? By the way, I'm fully aware of the fact that 'assumed known distance' is an oxymoron.

If the so called Law of Gravity (it's a theory by the way) states that the influence of big G's force on opposing object increases or decreases dependent on distance and mass, in accordance with the inverse square law, how do planetary objects maintain stable orbits, despite continually increasing and decreasing variations (elliptical orbits) in the distances between multiple objects of greater or lesser masses? I would be interested to see a practical demonstration which provides a working solution to a three object problem? I'm sure there is an ideal opportunity for the creator of such an example to obtain a Nobel prize.

Here's a visual aid demonstrating the Heliocentric model

Gravity? Sure!

Please explain how an observer can observe a horizon consistently at eye level at any elevation if they are standing on a ball? Basic geometry correctly and clearly demonstrates that the observable horizon on a spherical object must fall below the observers eye line, equally in all directions, at an ever increasing rate of decline with respect to any increase in elevation.

Here's another visual aid for those with poor geometry and spacial awareness skills

Under what conditions is it possible to retain a large mass of water upon the outer surface of a spinning ball? I would be very interested to see examples of practical and repeatable scientific demonstrations!

If I'm as stupid as you infer you should have no problem establishing your superior intellect, by providing sound answers to the questions posed to you above. I'm sure others in this thread eagerly await my humiliation, upon your rapid verifiable responses to all of the questions raised. Meanwhile Roastie and I shall share a carton of popcorn, while staring out at the passing tumble weed.

And for those with eyes to see and functional left and right hemispheres of their brain, who have self awareness and trust their own senses, check this out and digest.

The Moon is not a spherical object and anyone can observe that fact first hand, without the need for any specialist equipment. You can also model it here on earth, and establish exactly how light and shadows fall on spheres, as well as flat disks, by casting shadows using various combinations of the objects. All you need are two footballs and two table tennis bats and a light source. Cast a shadow on one ball using the other ball, and then do the same using one of the bats. Now repeat using one bat to cast a shadow upon the other and then use one of the balls to cast the shadow. Your observations should tell you everything you need to know. Of course you wont do the experiment yourself will you? Luckily for you a similar demonstration is provided in the video above. My guess is you wont take the time to watch the video, in case you are places in a position where you have to start accepting the reality you live in! I'm not sure why anyone would value their ignorance so highly?

@Flare no offence was taken from Gaia's response, because no substance was presented to dispel any of the issues raised. Anyone witnessing the absence of substance should recognise the weaknesses in Gaia's post.

The joke is Gaia seems to have managed to figure out that rockets can't and don't function in space (a vacuum). The notion of space and space travel is a complete and utter fraud! It shouldn't be too challenging for anyone capable of thought to understand that by extension the shape of the earth NASA presents is also false. They provided/presented fake images of Earth as a sphere using the fake space program and lunar missions. I doubt Gaia has ever stopped to consider the fact that presenting those pictures was a primary objective of the program, in order to seal the magical space ball fraud?

@Gaia You stated "Heliocentric or geocentric is irrelevant." which suggests there is no value in understanding the very nature of the reality you/we live in, or what the wider implications are if our understanding is based on a fraud. While you may willingly accept being deceived there are growing numbers of people who don't appreciate the deception, and all that it entails. If you choose to believe you are riding along on a magical space ball, created from nothing, that amounts to little more than a speck of dust, travelling within the vacuum of an endless expanse of ever expanding space, conveniently trapped within a goldilocks zone, good for you. Enjoy the ride.

@backfromthebrink Gaia is right about what exactly?

Simply reviewing the content of post in this thread in support of the Heliocentric model should be enough for the discerning mind to question the validity of the theoretical heliocentric model.

Open your eyes people and trust your own mind and senses. That's all that's required...no one needs to appeal to some third-party academic/scientist with a phd, or worse someone claiming to be a 'theoretical physicist/scientist or astro-theologist' (the clue is in the name).

The NASA budget is over 50 million dollars a day, in order to support the ball earth deception. Most of that money goes to deep state projects designed to secure your enslavement.

Thank you for your post Trust Your Senses.

I do trust my senses and I'm looking into the subject.

As I described earlier ... The David Icke forum which is a conspiracy website wants to ban any discussion about the
theory of a flat earth. LOL ......... Reptillians are OK, but the theory of a Flat Earth is not according the moderators and
therefore David Icke himself. What happened to freedom of speech with Icke? Alarm bells!

The video you posted about Sir John Gorst (Education Minister in England in 1900) is a revelation to me.

At that time in 1900 it is recorded English children were taught in schools the earth was flat.

I believe the press release in the US originated from an article in the Daily Mail 5 October 1899, page 3.

London Daily Mail Newspaper Archives, Oct 5, 1899, p. 3
It may be remembered that some time ago Mr. Breach wrote to Sir John Gorst threatening to put in force against him an old; statute which is said to have made it illegal to teach in schools that the earth is round. Source Newspaper archive

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 05 Mar 2018 11:23 #125

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Seeing as "argument via youtube" is so popular round here...

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 06 Mar 2018 03:07 #126

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Finally some sharp mind put my argument into video:

What I was saying all along.

Flattards, you fail, over and over and over and over again. Trolls.
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Masons know the sun is close

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What we call "planets" today were called wandering stars by the ancestors. In ancient cosmology, there are 7 wandering stars and this includes the sun and moon. All wandering stars were personified into Greek deities and this explains why earth is the only so called "planet" that is NOT named after a Greek deity! It's because the deities were given attributes that were based on the behavior of their wandering star/planet but since the earth /heart was always taught to be stationary and at the the heart of the cosmos it was hard to personify along with the other 7 wanderers that became named after Greek deities. All early personifications of earth deities are all centered around mother goddesses and cosmic egg creations. THIS VIDEO DISCUSSES MANY OTEHR TOPICS, SOME ARE THE FOLLOWING: The Jewish Menorah, The GD Pitchfolk coincidence? , Norse cosmology and myths, giants, bee goddess/hex politics, life/death/cosmic journey, terra mater, perception and much more!!! We are being ruled by heliocentric, Copernican, sun worshiping atheists who have hidden mother nature and manifested chaos on earth by creating chaos in our minds. if your cosmology is chaotic, then your deities are chaotic and if your deities are chaotic then the people will be chaotic. As above so below
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