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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 03 Aug 2017 01:42 #61

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I don't recall seeing them, here is a photo from the NASA website of the Earth, I don't see stars on it.

www.nasa.gov/image-feature/nasa-captures-epic-earth-image

I saw it in a vid somewhere here, perhaps i just cant remember which one. The stars wouldve been added.

What are the reasons for not being able to see stars in photos from space. :dunno:
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 03 Aug 2017 02:59 #62

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@novum, I'm unsure about the star thing, but I Googled ''NASA Earth images'' and didn't see any stars on the results, so I assume that stars are not usually seen, perhaps simply because there are no stars close enough to the Earth to be seen from such angles?


Anyway I was discussing the flat Earth issue with the videos posted, when you waded in with this ''Earth/Star/NASA'' issue, is it related to Flat Earth theory?
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Agree Zorro it is easy to debunk. But has become like a cult now & people wont admit they are wrong.

I used to like Santos Bonacci until he got locked up then became a flat head over night & lost all cred with me.
Hes an intelligent guy also but seems to been blackmailed to push this shit.

Same as 'no planers' I used to believe that but now admit I was wrong, but there seems to be a sort of mental illness that people get, they just can't admit their wrong, no matter how obvious to everyone else it is that they are so...

....it's as though they set out to give the impression that 'truthers' are a bunch of whack0s. Each time an aspect of their theory is shown to be wrong instead of seeing it for what it is, they just move onto the next element, and so on, so really they know it's a crock of shit but they just want to sustain an argument from the 'handbook of conspiracy theories'.

I don't think that 'no planers' nor 'flat Earthers' really believe what they're posting, they're just playing a superficial game of 'I'm a conspiracy theorist' it's like one huge cringe.
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Bobby Batter wrote:
Anyway I was discussing the flat Earth issue with the videos posted, when you waded in with this ''Earth/Star/NASA'' issue, is it related to Flat Earth theory?

Well it isnt directly related but I feel that discussion about NASA manipulating photos of the earth its on topic. Not a sticking point for me though, im really not that fussed about this topic myself tbh as i feel there are more important things... now those who feel we are being duped might strongly disagree with my position but it is what it is. I wouldnt even be posting in this thread right now if it wasnt raining, ive got things to do outside. :hahano:

Honestly after having looked into alot of the things posted here both in FE and the concave thread, i feel that one of the things that is perhaps most difficult to debunk is the flight times mentioned earlier in this thread, sydney to sth africa and sth america etc... you could perhaps have either or working on an existing FE model, where the flight times would be that short from sydney to one or the other.. but not both. So id like to see how that could work on a non round earth (non convex or concave), nobody to my knowledge has produced a model or map that could work.

Many other observations and effects we see can be explained within various models but some cant, and the flight time thing is one of those things that cant at present with the FE models presented.
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Well for me the lunar landing footage is fake, but just because that's fake it does not mean that nobody went to the moon, or since.

And i have no doubt that NASA do things to photographs either to colour them in, change the settings with software etc... but I have no idea about them adding stars around the Earth where they would not usually be seen.


With regards to 'faking photography' did you watch the video that I posted on the last page, where it makes a comparison (starting at 10;20) between the best special effects films regarding space/science fiction from the 1970's &1980's and notes that the NASA footage from the 1960's is even better defined and superior.

So it would have to be that NASA had better special effects technology in the 1960's than the best special effects movies in the 1970's into the 1980's.... it does seem so bizarre that if such technology did exist in the 1960's movie makers were not using it themselves, it's really worth watching that part of the video, it might make some sensible people think again.

For the flat Earth theory to be a reality, all satellites and space agencies have to be one big lie, have you any idea how many people would have needed to be in on this hoax since the 1950's or whenever such technology was first used.

Anyway back to debunking flat Earth theory...
Many long-haul flight times will be dramatically reduced as planes are allowed to take a short cut over the North Pole.
Changes in aviation rules, which apply to twin-engine jets such as a Boeing 777, will mean passengers can reach exotic destinations without making a stop.
During the flights passengers will be treated to stunning views of the Arctic.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078301/Mind-sleigh-Airlines-given-permission-fly-North-Pole-time-slashing-hours-exotic-destinations.html

What are the flattards saying about that? Are Boeing and many Airlines in on the spherical Earth hoax, and they're all just pretending that their planes fly over the Antarctic regions?
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Here one can flick through this video and watch the plane fly over the North Pole, the flat Earth theory is relying on the North Pole to be an area that rings the circumference of the 'flat Earth' so that the water does not fall off the edge... but as flights are now going over the North Pole their theory now has fallen apart from that aspect....yet on they go about the flat water etc... oh and there is no gravity etc etc etc...it's horseshit.

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I've flown directly over the north pole on a route from ATL to PEK (beijing). Here's a pic of the seatback flight map from a United 747, where I spent the entire flight with my face pressed to the window. Amazing scenery from Hudson Bay north through Baffin Island and on. It was July of 2008.

When we crossed the pole (as indicated in the flight map) the icon of the airplane began to flip back and forth, not knowing exactly which way it was pointing. I thought that was really cool and shot video of it trying to establish it's direction over the course of about 3 mins. Once we get a little bit of distance from magnetic north, the icon settled down and pointed toward Beijing.


travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22095/do-airlines-fly-directly-over-the-north-pole
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 03 Aug 2017 11:19 #68

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Actually its the south pole , or rather antarctica, thats supposed to circle the flat earth model, the north pole area wouldnt be that different flat vs globe.

No i didnt watch the vids but i always had heard that kubrick was involved with some of that stuff. Perhaps this is a subliminal hint at what the 69 moon landing was.... its from 1971

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Qantas are doing flights over Antarctica (South Pole).

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@novnov, I think you misunderstand me, the NASA footage of the 1960's is better/clearer/more defined than any science fiction moves in the 1970's into the 1980's how can this be? What technology did NASA have in 1960's to create better 'special effects' on film than movie makers had 10-20 years later? It's worth watching the few minutes of the video below to better see what I mean. It can only be that the NASA footage is real and not 'special effects' hoax' etc.. no?

It's better explained if you watch this video from 10:20 onwards...

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Not much hope that this message stays after my latest attempt was censored from the thread, but is this the umpteenth LetBobbyRattyBooyDerailtheThread or is ir about Flat Earth?

And NASA IS Hollywood. Just different front, same science fiction.
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^ troll alert ^

I guess it missed the bit where I posted ''@novnov'' and novum's questions about NASA photography. Which he has explained are not directly connected to flat Earth theory but are somewhat connected as the theory depends on NASA imagery being fake etc...
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 05 Jan 2018 15:37 #74

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It's an intriguing theory, but I'm still on the fence, trying to learn more.

Here's a snappy tune to keep everyone in a good mood!

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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 05 Jan 2018 20:10 #75

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It's an intriguing theory, but I'm still on the fence, trying to learn more.

Here's a snappy tune to keep everyone in a good mood!


How do you think the average open-minded person is going to react when one minute you're educating them about Jewish bankers & Israel etc, then the very next minute you turn around and tell them the Earth is flat

I'll tell you exactly what these stupid flat Earth theories etc are all about, it's all about smearing and ridiculing people by association, e,g the ''alternative media'' or those who don't subscribe to the popular mainstream narrative & culture.

In other words it's all about making people who might otherwise have sound and sane alternative views, look like a bunch of kooks on the lunatic fringe. And it's working quite well, too.

It's amazing how naive some people have become to all this rubbish.

Obviously the Earth is not flat. It's just another Kook theory put out there to lead people on an endless wild goose chase, and to smear more rational and sane 'alternative views' by association, not to mention the pointless circular arguments that come hand in glove with these stupid and childish theories.
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Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis 06 Jan 2018 20:53 #76

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^ Not only is the whole theory ridiculous and make us look like idiots.

It's also a massive 'sub-conspiracy' distraction in which LOADS of people spend days, weeks, months studying it and even forming Flat-earth groups etc.

It's designed to let people hold endless nonsensical debate, like the moonlanding-hoax, NASA, Global warming, chemtrails, "9-11 CGI planes", hoaxery etc.

All nice and well... but it all distracts from the main subjects, which is the NWO, the jews and the fact that Hitler was right.
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Those people think they're in the right about FE simply because they're being censored. But they don't understand how systems like Bolshevism work. Such systems want to blot out ALL other competing ideologies from consideration. If a video/comment on Christianity or nationalism is removed, then that's just part of a general clean sweep. The only exoteric ideology in direct opposition to Marxism was National Socialism, which has received the severest censorship.

BTW Hitler himself said that the earth was a globe and paid tribute to Copernicus, Galileo, and especially Kepler (with the observatory he was going to build in Linz, which can be verified in Hermann Giseler's memoirs). The National Socialists proclaimed a pluralist universe, filled with planets, suns, moons, and stars, with possible organic life on them. Hitler even appropriated the Islamic title Lord of the Worlds in his speeches. No National Socialist can be a FE adherent. He should instead incline himself to the theories of Hans Hoerbiger.

It should be the duty of all thinking Christians and non-Christians to oppose FE, out of consideration for order, common sense, and deity. Why did Hitler also pay tribute to Ptolemy, despite his error? Because Ptolemy sought to explore the constitution of the universe, which the ancients ranked as the highest among the gods. What this FE disease does is make people envision their whole existence as a prison, which is not far off from modern gnosticism. Incidentally, I have come across gnostics who say that the earth is the only world in the universe. It could even be argued that FE inculcates a worship of the Earth itself, by prioritizing it's existence over other worlds. It is doing an injustice to god's creation to only deify parts of the whole. Some FE adherents even go so far as to reject the existence of space or they see the sun, moon, and stars as mere luminaries. This undermines the entire Copernican revolution.

FE makes them turn from simple observation (the sun rises and sets, some places are perpetually in light/darkness, round moon, weather balloons) to dogma (the great trick of FE is that they claim you can see it all by observation, but what they really do is make people reflect about it. They resort to dozens of logical arguments and questions which can be destroyed with a single photograph or video).

Rosenberg:
In the Phaedon, for example, Platon relates that Sokrates had admitted that he possessed no aptitude for investigation of organic events. The true nature of things for Sokrates therefore consisted ultimately not in their investigation by observation, but in our thinking about them. One should not ruin one’s eyes by viewing things to excess. If man wishes to discover whether the earth is flat or round then it does not suit him to carry on research. Rather, he should ask: What does reason say of this? Is it rational to conceive the earth as the centre of the universe?

Someone (incidentally, he was arguing against FE) once said to utilize one's senses over one's eyes. What does your sense of balance tell you? That there's this giant mass of land beneath your feet.

Rosenberg apparently had prophetic insight, for he perfectly described how we tend to overthink things.

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In addition our people here, like the German people before them, are cursed with an overweening objectivity and lack of emotional maturity so that they are born suckers for the immensely powerful yet brilliantly subtle Jewish propaganda which floods our country 24 hours a day year after year.

I concur with Christian National Socialists that there is no room for atheism and that we should not throw out everything related to Christianity. It is sufficient that the Acts, Pauline letters, other epistles, and Old Testament are disposed of and a revision/purification/Germanization of the New Testament Gospels is opened up.
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How do you think the average open-minded person is going to react when one minute you're educating them about Jewish bankers & Israel etc, then the very next minute you turn around and tell them the Earth is flat

An open mined person would most likely conclude that both theories are nonsense, and that the holocaust did happen once the holocaust deniers narrative is undone, which I have done here, time and again, and easily, but because most of the members here are closed mined, they just carry on regardless because they want to defend their narrative in the most closed minded of ways...and simply pretend it is intact and constitutes proof.

Just like how flat Earthers and no planers behave when their theories have been shown to be wrong too. I don't know why you bother to disassociate yourself from them. At least cranks like Gaia believe a lot of this shit, you're more selective, because you're trying not to look like a crank, and you're trying to pretend the theories that you like are the truth, by attempting to distance yourself from these others.

Here's a bit of info for you, you're on a conspiracy website that spawned from David icke's forum. You're even 'moderating' it, so your theory is in the right place, along with flat Earther's, no planers, moon landing hoaxers etc etc...

Posting up a photograph of an Asian regiment of 3rd Empire soldiers to pretend that Hitler was no racist, is just like a flat Earther posting up a photograph of a canal with no curve on it, to 'prove' the Earth is flat.

That's all, you can put your head back in your bucket.
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Those people think they're in the right about FE simply because they're being censored. But they don't understand how systems like Bolshevism work. Such systems want to blot out ALL other competing ideologies from consideration. If a video/comment on Christianity or nationalism is removed, then that's just part of a general clean sweep. The only exoteric ideology in direct opposition to Marxism was National Socialism, which has received the severest censorship.

BTW Hitler himself said that the earth was a globe and paid tribute to Copernicus, Galileo, and especially Kepler (with the observatory he was going to build in Linz, which can be verified in Hermann Giseler's memoirs). The National Socialists proclaimed a pluralist universe, filled with planets, suns, moons, and stars, with possible organic life on them. Hitler even appropriated the Islamic title Lord of the Worlds in his speeches. No National Socialist can be a FE adherent. He should instead incline himself to the theories of Hans Hoerbiger.

It should be the duty of all thinking Christians and non-Christians to oppose FE, out of consideration for order, common sense, and deity. Why did Hitler also pay tribute to Ptolemy, despite his error? Because Ptolemy sought to explore the constitution of the universe, which the ancients ranked as the highest among the gods. What this FE disease does is make people envision their whole existence as a prison, which is not far off from modern gnosticism. Incidentally, I have come across gnostics who say that the earth is the only world in the universe. It could even be argued that FE inculcates a worship of the Earth itself, by prioritizing it's existence over other worlds. It is doing an injustice to god's creation to only deify parts of the whole. Some FE adherents even go so far as to reject the existence of space or they see the sun, moon, and stars as mere luminaries. This undermines the entire Copernican revolution.

FE makes them turn from simple observation (the sun rises and sets, some places are perpetually in light/darkness, round moon, weather balloons) to dogma (the great trick of FE is that they claim you can see it all by observation, but what they really do is make people reflect about it. They resort to dozens of logical arguments and questions which can be destroyed with a single photograph or video).

Rosenberg:
In the Phaedon, for example, Platon relates that Sokrates had admitted that he possessed no aptitude for investigation of organic events. The true nature of things for Sokrates therefore consisted ultimately not in their investigation by observation, but in our thinking about them. One should not ruin one’s eyes by viewing things to excess. If man wishes to discover whether the earth is flat or round then it does not suit him to carry on research. Rather, he should ask: What does reason say of this? Is it rational to conceive the earth as the centre of the universe?

Someone (incidentally, he was arguing against FE) once said to utilize one's senses over one's eyes. What does your sense of balance tell you? That there's this giant mass of land beneath your feet.

Rosenberg apparently had prophetic insight, for he perfectly described how we tend to overthink things.

George Lincoln Rockwell:
In addition our people here, like the German people before them, are cursed with an overweening objectivity and lack of emotional maturity so that they are born suckers for the immensely powerful yet brilliantly subtle Jewish propaganda which floods our country 24 hours a day year after year.

I concur with Christian National Socialists that there is no room for atheism and that we should not throw out everything related to Christianity. It is sufficient that the Acts, Pauline letters, other epistles, and Old Testament are disposed of and a revision/purification/Germanization of the New Testament Gospels is opened up.

Wonderful post and a pleasure to read! :notworthy:

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Roastie wrote:
It's an intriguing theory, but I'm still on the fence, trying to learn more.


Here's a snappy tune to keep everyone in a good mood!


Great performer and his ISS puppet show is hilarious. It's such a pity otherwise good thinkers fall for/push this FE meme.
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