TOPIC: Point 3

"Progressives" have no morals, no principles, no honor, and no soul

Zorro wrote:
You really are a retard. What you call progressive has existed since ancient times...irs not a new concept that you5vr identified recently. Of course the far Right exists....you and Flare are yelling from it on a regular basis.

Modern progressiveness is a misuse of employment law, its not neo-communism you arse wipe. There arent any Progredsive Left politics, theyre just misusimg employment law to control people outside of their jobs. Its not Left thing per se you numbskull.

They certainly have no values or morals. If they did, they wouldn't lie and not give it a second thought in the way they all do, without any sense of wrongdoing. Yet, they somehow feel they have a right to thought police others, and govern what is and isn't acceptable discourse.

Indeed, that's why they are forced into lying and engaging in underhanded tactics in the first place. Because these people and their ideas are not good, and any open discourse that falls outside the bounds of their collective one-size-fits-all straight jacket, is very much seen as a threat to their own Utopian wet dream. It's a collective punishment which these Neo-Marxist ass clowns and weirdos try and impose on others. Which they also try and deny any existence of.

You're simply replacing your lack of facts with neo nazi rhetoric .

What a shameful abusive 'moderator' you are.

Ah, so Neo-Nazis, and far right extremists etc etc, all exist in your World, while anything which could be classed as Neo-Marxist, ''progressive'', or far left, doesn't exist.

Ya, O.K then. And you wonder why others here view you as a disingenuous establishment tool. Gee, I wonder why that is?

Frothy, since when are "new" and "progressive" synonyms?

Of course the progressive left exist. They are the pupils of the Frankfurt school, the cultural marixts, those who try psychological tactics to silence or shame people into speaking out.

The far right does that using physical violence, the progressive left using psychological violence.

Both because they lack principles grounded in reason and logic. It is all enemy seeking psycho warfare.

Gaia wrote:
I think you're right about the first bit, but I disagree in part with the second bit. Though the ''progressive left'' does indeed use psychological warfare, it also has no issues whatsoever using physical violence. Antifa is just one example of the far left readily using physical violence and intimidation. .

Zorro wrote:
But Antifa is not the progressive left, they are the far left, just like their counterpart the radical neoNazis, the EDL boys.

The progressive left you find among the Democrats in the US, LibDems and Labour in the UK and PvdA, GroenLinks and partly D66 in the Netherlands.

Their weapon is mainly shaming tactics to perpetraite their cultural marxism, "moral" relativism and oikophobia.

The cultural marxism and oikophobia do not need more elaboration, that has been covered widely here on TZ.

The "moral" relativism of the "progressive" left is particularly visible in the 1970s and early 80s, when prominent members of the PvdA (=Labour) and PSP (Pacifistic Socialist -yes, an oxymoron- Party, PSP, one of the predecessors of GroenLinks -GreenLeft-) were openly advocating to legalize pedophilia:

- 100% taxation on salaries above 100,000 guilders (=45,000 euros)
- ban on ownership of houses
- legalization of pedophilia

Rocco wrote:
Look ive got no intentions of banning him...not at the moment anyway.

But on his complaints about moderation, well, theres a plethora of platforms out there that are biased towards the left, and on many of those, most really, anyone on the right is deplatformed, yet leftists come here and want to entirely take over this place also and turn it left leaning.

What leftists moan about being biased (or nazi) is often just others putting up a counter argument or different opinion.

I say left because a lot of Frothys positions align with the left.

Just about the only place he seems to be non mainstream ie contrarian is on 9/11... the rest pretty much aligns with what the NWO wants , thats the way i see it anyway.

This entire thread by him is another moanfest, he constantly rubs people the wrong way online, gets booted, comes back to just about the only site that wont rid of him permanently, here, just to nit pick and moan some more about how its not free speech here.

He should be quarantined to his own sub forum were he can exercise his free speech without interfering with other posters free speech. Because that's what he's doing
He and his retarded sidekick are shouting everyone down who's not in their little progressive death cult

Gaia wrote:
I don't think Progressive is new, as I already posted the Vikings and Romans had progressive attributes. The Vikings were big on women's rights they had female warriors etc, the Romans had trade unions ..for workers rights, it's not a new thing at all.

Zorro & Rocco think it's neo-Communism, but that's horseshit. Yes there are people and small groups who are specifically Progressive but they aren't a coherent political force. It's nothing to be concerned about.

I'm getting tired of repeating this fact, what's occurred is that employment law in most if not all Western nations is there to protect workers from discrimination, so that is Marxian and Left but I don't think in that setting it's a bad thing specifically unless people take it too far.

The problem is that this employment law which should be a civil matter has been placed into peoples lives as criminal law and now applies when their not at work but in general in society, it's not progression it's transition.

novum wrote:
it says it's an all inclusive forum here but Zorro is bent towards the far Right and 'moderates' in that manner.

I'm not Left, I don't even like Lefties, but I'm having a go at explaining what it actually is and isn't to some of the retards here who don't seem to know, the msm is not Left.

As for my view except for 9/11 well you've obviously not read my posts about hidden history or biocentrism, in fact my views are less mainstream that most of the posters here who repeat shit from the Mail Online, or some CIA neonazi webpage, or yell about how great the US president is.

I'm not in the Left Right paradigm, i just seem Left here because I challenge the far Right brain dead idiots who can't see beyond. All this stuff about Progressive civilisation = neo-Communism is simply Right wing horseshit.

Civilisation in The West is progressive it's why we're not living in the stone age, and Communism hasn't ever been applied in reality.

I post on other forums too but do enjoy nazi whispering here. it's a shame that you don't really have a fair concept of moderation though, you can do better than that Zorro idiot surely

exilium wrote:
Well I have to go to court for calling someone a poofter.

Frothy wrote: I don't care how old it is. When Progressiveness goes unchecked by Social Conservatism total moral decay will be the result. As we are witnessing in Western society right now

Rocco
Yet on he trolls..

Frothy wrote: I was in this thread already

Rocco wrote:
You mean you never left since yesterday you sad twat?

Rocco wrote: Well yeah sure it needs to be confronted but so does a lot of other things. But it's simply not the force that you have made it out to be...

A lot of the things that you brought up you expect the State to intervene with, but then you say that you don't like State intervention, you can't have it both ways son.

Frothy wrote: Obviously you believe people can not get anything done without the State. That makes you the Statist not me