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Under A Black Sun 10 Jan 2016 07:32 #1

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Black Sun
The Black Sun, also known as the sonnenrad (sun wheel) in German, specifically comes from the floor of the north tower of Wewelsburg Castle, which was renovated by SS-leader Heinrich Himmler. The castle was a meeting place of only highest members of the SS, and Himmler considered it the axis mundi (center of the world) for their ideology.

The specific meaning of the symbol, if it even had one to Himmler, is unknown. There aren't even records of a name associated with this symbol. There is no suggestion that he called it the Black Sun; that term was associated with it afterward.
Origins
Himmler was highly interested in Germanic folklore and pagan belief and therefore appears to have adopted the symbol from similar historical shapes. While his Black Sun specifically has twelve arms, historical versions varied widely in the number of radiating spokes.

The historical versions are considered by many to be sun wheels, similar to sun crosses, which is why calling this symbol a sun comes easily to most.


Symbol
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Hitler

(However, one should note that the Wewelsburg symbol is made of green stone, not black.) The center of the Wewelsburg symbol also originally had a gold center to it, which is a common solar symbol.

Sun symbols commonly represent triumph, life and goodness, and sun symbols with central points to them often represent unity and centrality as well. All of these meanings fit well within Nazi ideology and worldview: the unity of a single race centered around a powerful party and leader triumphing over lesser, oppressive, evil races, embracing the fulfillment of life and goodness as defined by the Nazis.
Meaning of the Radiating Spokes
There are a variety of possible meanings in the design of the spokes. Germanic sun wheels commonly do have bent spokes. For Himmler, the bent nature was likely important because each spoke represented the Germanic sowilo rune of the Elder Futhark, which represented the sun. Himmler adopted a modern rune system which called the symbol sig and had it represent victory. His most known use of the sig rune is the insignia of the SS, which uses a double sig rune.

The pattern created by the crooked radiating spokes might also be interpreted as three overlaid swastikas. This interpretation has led some neo-Nazis to adopt the symbol, particularly in places where the display of swastikas are illegal.
Meaning of the Number Twelve
The chamber containing the Black Sun is known as the Obergruppenfuhrersaal, the Generals' Hall. Besides the Black Sun having twelve arms, this chamber also has twelve columns and twelve niches along the wall. There were twelve branches of the SS, so that may have been the relevance.

Other have advanced a comparison to the twelve knights of the round table. Himmler was a great fan of mythology and folklore, and two of the reading rooms within the castle were named Konig Artus (King Arthur) and Gral (Grail). As head of the SS, Himmler could potentially have also used such imagery in organizing the SS into twelve branches.

The number twelve also has relevance within Norse mythology. There are twelve Aesir gods, for example. Important groups of twelve can be found in other cultures as well, such as the twelve Olympic gods in Greek mythology and the twelve disciples who followed Jesus.

Beneath the Obergruppenfuhrersaal is another chamber that became known as the crypt or vault. It holds twelve seats against a wall surrounding a depression in the floor. The depression was meant to hold an eternal flame, a light emerging from darkness and rising up toward a swastika in the ceiling and then the Black Sun on the floor above.
Uses Today
The symbol is sometimes used by a variety of Germanic religious and esoteric groups, which may or may not promote racist ideologies.

altreligion.about.com/od/symbols/a/Black-Sun.htm
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Under A Black Sun 27 Dec 2016 04:58 #7

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^^It's just an avatar.........doesn't mean anything quote the Cup of Cake.

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Foxy wrote:
^^It's just an avatar.........doesn't mean anything quote the Cup of Cake.

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Germanic sun wheels commonly do have bent spokes. For Himmler, the bent nature was likely important because each spoke represented the Germanic sowilo rune of the Elder Futhark, which represented the sun. Himmler adopted a modern rune system which called the symbol sig and had it represent victory. His most known use of the sig rune is the insignia of the SS, which uses a double sig rune.

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There are a few members here that are connected to this esoteric bull shit 'black sun'/Thule, ect. They lack the balls/guts to admit this. What has the forum done since the wanna be dictator took over? :larf: Just bumped the WWII thread w/the same pix & quotes. While the planet is being prepared for the slaughter of 5+ billion people. People of color do not matter to the crew. No other nation matters except the German nation of the 30's & 40's. :facepalm:

Under A Black Sun 16 Jan 2017 09:22 #10

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“Saturn is an important key to understanding the long heritage this conspiracy has back to antiquity. The city of Rome was originally known as Saturnia or City of Saturn. The Roman Catholic church retains much of the Saturn worship in its ritual. Saturn also relates to Lucifer. In various occult dictionaries Saturn is associated with evil. Saturn was important to the religion of Mithra, and also the Druids.”

–Fritz Springmeier,

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It is no coincidence that since the end of WWII Die Schwarze Sonne [the Black Sun] has emerged as the primary symbol of esoteric National Socialism. Some would argue that on a superficial basis the Black Sun appears to have eclipsed the Swastika as the symbol of Aryan man.One reason for this may be that the Black Sun, unlike the Swastika is not generally known to the uninitiated wider world and so the wearing or display of this symbol meets little if any opposition. This is of course to our advantage. The Unconscious does not reason; it feels, it remembers. As I have said many many times before, a "symbol is worth 1,000 words" for it speaks directly to the Racial Collective Unconscious. Thus a favourable response is more likely than that which one would receive if displaying the Swastika for the masses have not been conditioned-yet to respond negatively to the Black Sun; thus the Unconscious presents no barrier, no resistance to the reception of this symbol. Likewise to those who are initiated, who have understanding it is a sign of brotherhood.

There is another and deeper reason why the Black Sun has eclipsed the Swastika. That reason is elaborated on in my The Black Sun [Die Schwarze Sonne] in Eddic Mythology and Fairytale article published on my Die Armanenschaft der Ario-Germanen blog on 26/12/13. Put quite simply the current active Sun, the Golden Sun is in the process of being `eclipsed` by the Black Sun, the currently passive Sun which will become active again after Ragnarok. It will become the active Sun of the new Golden Age of the Arya. The Eddic mythology from both the Elder and Younger Eddas makes this abundantly clear. At the time of the seeding of our race at the North Pole this ancient Sol Niger was visible in the sky and exerted a psychological and physiological influence upon our race. That influence will be felt again in its full power after Ragnarok. We know that the Arya will be purified through the fires of Ragnarok and the earth will be cleansed from its physical, biological and spiritual impurities due to the sacrifices of the Einheriar. The rejuvenated Arya will emerge from the safety of Odainsaker to replenish the earth. To meet them will be the rejuvenated Gods who will walk hand in hand with the Arya to accomplish the next phase of Aryan existence. Thus we must welcome Ragnarok. It cannot be avoided. The Gods know this and so do we.
However before the new can come the old order must be destroyed. The signs of its decay are already present and the end is in sight.

We know from the ancient Aryan science of Alchemy that the initial stage of the process of transformation is the nigredo stage, the darkening, representing all that is decaying and dying and that the initiate must proceed from this stage to the ultimate goal of attaining the internal Golden Sun. What will happen in the heavens, in the Macrocosmos must be achieved internally, in the Microcosmos, the Sun Initiate, the Sonnenmensch. Partly for this reason we currently wear black for we are the inheritors of the Lords of the Black Stone, Die Herren vom Schwarzen Stein [DHvSS], the SS, the Schwarze Sonne
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aryan-myth-and-metahistory.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-black-sun-and-golden-sun-task-of.html

No wonder the Gestapo Gang went apeshit over the Black Sun thread. :wissl:

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Foxy wrote:
There are a few members here that are connected to this esoteric bull shit 'black sun'/Thule, ect. They lack the balls/guts to admit this. What has the forum done since the wanna be dictator took over? :larf: Just bumped the WWII thread w/the same pix & quotes. While the planet is being prepared for the slaughter of 5+ billion people. People of color do not matter to the crew. No other nation matters except the German nation of the 30's & 40's. :facepalm:

Yes,and it was the apeshit spam and trollfest of the Black Sun thread that raised red flags for me on gatekeeping by the Gestapo Gang.
Then the other threads exposing NS ties to the Vatican and how bonkers they went on the discussion of paganism.

No discussions and agree to disagree.It was all spam upon spam and trolling to Birkenau and back to the Black Forest.
35 pages of spam and trolling in that one thread alone[The Black Sun].

Then having a couple of DIF trolls constantly trollling you even though you are in this Public Zone,and the trolls being defended.It took the focus off what the Gestapo Gang was doing for so long.They could sit back and play innocent with a snipe at you here and there,and a Glasshouse thread for a joke.All this brought to the attention of the owner,and still he doesn't see it,,and recently defended the trolls.

Go figure. :ponda:

This was all brought up in the okay,here's the deal thread,and that thread went south quickly
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Black Sun & other 'societies' has shown (oh, a pun indeed) struck a nerve w/those in charge of the web site. Or ones that call the shots as it were. :wissl:

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The Lords Of The Black Stone sound like a Game Of Thrones re-enactment group.

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Can't make this out, at all.
Care to translate?
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

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R wrote:
The Lords Of The Black Stone sound like a Game Of Thrones re-enactment group.
Ask Zorro what this Black Sun wheel is..............'why, it' JUST an avatar! www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_vril07.htm

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Black Sun
The Black Sun, also known as the sonnenrad (sun wheel) in German, specifically comes from the floor of the north tower of Wewelsburg Castle, which was renovated by SS-leader Heinrich Himmler. The castle was a meeting place of only highest members of the SS, and Himmler considered it the axis mundi (center of the world) for their ideology.

The specific meaning of the symbol, if it even had one to Himmler, is unknown. There aren't even records of a name associated with this symbol. There is no suggestion that he called it the Black Sun; that term was associated with it afterward.
Origins
Himmler was highly interested in Germanic folklore and pagan belief and therefore appears to have adopted the symbol from similar historical shapes. While his Black Sun specifically has twelve arms, historical versions varied widely in the number of radiating spokes.

The historical versions are considered by many to be sun wheels, similar to sun crosses, which is why calling this symbol a sun comes easily to most.


Symbol
Occult
SS
Religion
Hitler

(However, one should note that the Wewelsburg symbol is made of green stone, not black.) The center of the Wewelsburg symbol also originally had a gold center to it, which is a common solar symbol.

Sun symbols commonly represent triumph, life and goodness, and sun symbols with central points to them often represent unity and centrality as well. All of these meanings fit well within Nazi ideology and worldview: the unity of a single race centered around a powerful party and leader triumphing over lesser, oppressive, evil races, embracing the fulfillment of life and goodness as defined by the Nazis.
Meaning of the Radiating Spokes
There are a variety of possible meanings in the design of the spokes. Germanic sun wheels commonly do have bent spokes. For Himmler, the bent nature was likely important because each spoke represented the Germanic sowilo rune of the Elder Futhark, which represented the sun. Himmler adopted a modern rune system which called the symbol sig and had it represent victory. His most known use of the sig rune is the insignia of the SS, which uses a double sig rune.

The pattern created by the crooked radiating spokes might also be interpreted as three overlaid swastikas. This interpretation has led some neo-Nazis to adopt the symbol, particularly in places where the display of swastikas are illegal.
Meaning of the Number Twelve
The chamber containing the Black Sun is known as the Obergruppenfuhrersaal, the Generals' Hall. Besides the Black Sun having twelve arms, this chamber also has twelve columns and twelve niches along the wall. There were twelve branches of the SS, so that may have been the relevance.

Other have advanced a comparison to the twelve knights of the round table. Himmler was a great fan of mythology and folklore, and two of the reading rooms within the castle were named Konig Artus (King Arthur) and Gral (Grail). As head of the SS, Himmler could potentially have also used such imagery in organizing the SS into twelve branches.

The number twelve also has relevance within Norse mythology. There are twelve Aesir gods, for example. Important groups of twelve can be found in other cultures as well, such as the twelve Olympic gods in Greek mythology and the twelve disciples who followed Jesus.

Beneath the Obergruppenfuhrersaal is another chamber that became known as the crypt or vault. It holds twelve seats against a wall surrounding a depression in the floor. The depression was meant to hold an eternal flame, a light emerging from darkness and rising up toward a swastika in the ceiling and then the Black Sun on the floor above.

Uses Today
The symbol is sometimes used by a variety of Germanic religious and esoteric groups, which may or may not promote racist ideologies.

altreligion.about.com/od/symbols/a/Black-Sun.htm



The Hero's Journey - Mythic Structure of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth
(includes: The 12 Stages of the Hero's Journey)
www.movieoutline.com/articles/the-hero-journey-mythic-structure-of-joseph-campbell-monomyth.html

G'day Zax.

In Geometry, 12 Spheres can all fit around a central Sphere and all be touching it. You can also fit 12 Icosahedrons around a central Icosahedron with all 12 touching the 12 points of the central Icosahedron.

It is knowledge encoded into stories for hundreds upon hundreds of years, thousands even.

20 Tetrahedron Form 1 Icosahedron.
20 Octahedron Form around 1 Icosahedron.

The internal angles
720 Tetrahedron
1440 Octahedron
2160 Hexahedron
3600 Icosahedron
6480 Dodecahedron
_____
14400 Total

20 x Tetrahedron 720 = 14400
20 x Octahedron 1440 = 28800

A combined total of 43,200 ('A' scale, double = 432hz).

Add 12 Icosahedron Of Formed from 20 Tetrahedrons each ...

14400 x 12 = 172800

43200 + 172800 = 216,000 (216 is 'A' tuning)

The natural Frequency of the shapes in nature (the 5 Platonic Solids).
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.

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Yes, the forum controllers does not Black Sun/Saturn topic nor the secret society subject itself. They also use the rejects (brilliant idea, no real effort for the trolls) from DIF as even more disinformation/discredit threads unpopular w/the dictator. Just another compromised site, meeting the criteria of 'bending' the truth just enough to keep the real knowledge hidden.

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