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Abovetopsecret.com is controlled 22 Mar 2016 03:32 #1

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Made an account on abovetopsecret.com, the biggest conspiracy site out there, to get some more of the word out.
However, I got banned after only opening 3 topics already.

I just read the site is controlled and most of the moderators seem to be freemasons. (which they even admitted)

Now I am wondering WHY those masons don't want the truth to come out and why they are digging their own graves along there with it?

What is in it for the masons you guys think, when the NWO gets to be complete? I mean.. we've got the white genocide going on
and the masons will definately go down along with us if it can't be stopped.

Are those guys crazy or what?
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

- Adolf Hitler, in Berlin, 01 May 1935
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Abovetopsecret.com is controlled 22 Mar 2016 03:49 #2

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What 3 topics did you post?

Sorry for your banning - ya gotta chuckle though - ;)


Truth is anti-semitic
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Perhaps it depends on the subject matter.

WW2 revisionism for example is perhaps the most censored material on the web, many places wont allow it.

Many so called truth sites are lame as fuck tbh, ive found other special interest sites with political sections to be much more free, like car sites for example and other places people might hang out online. They make most 'truth' sites look like a kindegarden with a strict head teacher.

Im sure one could post about little green men from uranus on ATS all day though, no problemo.
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freemasonic bloody arrogant gatekeepers at ATS and wherever you find them
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Abovetopsecret.com is controlled 22 Mar 2016 04:05 #5

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Voltaire wrote:
What 3 topics did you post?

Sorry for your banning - ya gotta chuckle though - ;)

Topic 1: "Adolf Hitler fought the New World Order" got taken down within minutes
Topic 2: "Why can't Adolf Hitler be discussed on ATS?" :D also down within minutes
Topic 3: "The decay of Western Civilization" (White genocide content) down after 3 more posts

And I got kicked, even received an IP ban :chuckle:
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

- Adolf Hitler, in Berlin, 01 May 1935
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Abovetopsecret.com is controlled 22 Mar 2016 04:20 #6

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novum wrote:
Perhaps it depends on the subject matter.

WW2 revisionism for example is perhaps the most censored material on the web, many places wont allow it.

Many so called truth sites are lame as fuck tbh, ive found other special interest sites with political sections to be much more free, like car sites for example and other places people might hang out online. They make most 'truth' sites look like a kindegarden with a strict head teacher.

Im sure one could post about little green men from uranus on ATS all day though, no problemo.

Yea, I must hand it to you that you are running an excellent Truther site here. Probably one of the best out there.
Only made the account on ATS just to spread the Truth a bit more... would have stayed on TZ anyway ;)

Indeed, most other sites don't go all the way... as once people get to the bottom of the rabbit hole, it all leads back to WW II and it will make the forums eventually look like stormfront 2.0 a bit. Seems like a lot of ppl started topics on ATS like "Hitler the hero" and the owner made a topic in which he told it is forbidden to discuss him anymore.

So yea, every real Truther-forum will have a lot about Hitler going on, as he was the greatest Truther / conspiracy theorist of all.
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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Abovetopsecret.com is controlled 22 Mar 2016 04:24 #7

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freemasonic bloody arrogant gatekeepers at ATS and wherever you find them

Yea... but then the question remains... what's in it for them to keep the truth buried?

I mean, they are obviously digging their own graves along with it... or not? Or will they have a special place to go once our
lands are completely overrun with immigrants or something? I don't think so.

Can't really get my head around their motives as it's kind of crazy to think they are happily working on their own destruction...
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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Those fascists! :joker:
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novum wrote:
Those fascists! :joker:

:chuckle:
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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Yea... but then the question remains... what's in it for them to keep the truth buried?

I mean, they are obviously digging their own graves along with it... or not? Or will they have a special place to go once our
lands are completely overrun with immigrants or something? I don't think so.

Can't really get my head around their motives as it's kind of crazy to think they are happily working on their own destruction...


Like all useful clowns they think they are special and will reap rewards at the end, without fully understanding the real consequences once they have played their role.

Just like any religions that promises riches in the end times. Nothing works better than a nice juicy carrot to lust after.

This video explains some stuff, except they don't reference the two characters in grey suits looking longingly towards the tower (moated castle) those two represent the sell outs in our societies.

Watch until the end to see the explanation of the people in the fore and mid ground.



Just like the police and military might discover when robotics have gone through a couple more generations of development. Total Recall, I Robot, Robocop, Terminator, Avatar and Almost Human et al are all predictive programming for what is fast becoming reality, and google are
positioning to becoming the masters of this empire, with big pharma/agri close by.

Everyone is expendable once they have served their useful purpose and that includes one percenter's who go off piste.
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The Freemasons (who control ATS) wouldn't really be up for pro-Adolf Hitler/NSDAP threads/commentary considering some of the history during WW2. :D



Following WW2, the film's writer, Jean-Marie Rivière, was imprisoned. Its producer, Robert Muzard, and director, Paul Riche (the pseudonym of Jean Mamy), were EXECUTED (+1949) for their part in the production of this film. "Occult Forces" was the last film Riche directed before his unjust execution.

Plot: The film recounts the life of a young député who joins the Freemasons in order to relaunch his career. He thus learns of how the Freemasons are conspiring with the Jews and the Anglo-american nations to encourage France into a war against Germany.

The film was commissioned in 1942 by the Propaganda Abteilung, a delegation of Nazi Germany's propaganda ministry within occupied France by the ex-Mason Mamy. It virulently denounces Freemasonry, parliamentarianism and Jews as part of Vichy's drive against them and seeks to prove a Jewish-Masonic plot. On France's "liberation" its writer Jean Marquès-Rivière, its producer Robert Muzard and its direction Jean Mamy were purged for collaboration with the enemy. On 25 November 1945, Muzard was condemned to 3 years in prison and Marquès-Rivière was condemned in his absence (he had gone into self-imposed exile) to death and degradation. Mamy had also been a journalist on L'Appel under Pierre Constantini (leader of the Ligue française d'épuration, d'entraide sociale et de collaboration européenne) and on the collaborationist journal Au pilori, and was thus condemned to death and executed at the fortress of Montrouge on 29 March 1949.
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You'd have thought the son of a bootlegger would have been a bit smarter about how he approached such a problem.
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Flare wrote:
Voltaire wrote:
What 3 topics did you post?

Sorry for your banning - ya gotta chuckle though - ;)

Topic 1: "Adolf Hitler fought the New World Order" got taken down within minutes
Topic 2: "Why can't Adolf Hitler be discussed on ATS?" :D also down within minutes
Topic 3: "The decay of Western Civilization" (White genocide content) down after 3 more posts

And I got kicked, even received an IP ban :chuckle:

Does this actually come as any surprise to you given the subjects you chose?

Then you come on here whining like a bitch. :facepalm:
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The Freemasons (who control ATS) wouldn't really be up for pro-Adolf Hitler/NSDAP threads/commentary considering some of the history during WW2. :D



Following WW2, the film's writer, Jean-Marie Rivière, was imprisoned. Its producer, Robert Muzard, and director, Paul Riche (the pseudonym of Jean Mamy), were EXECUTED (+1949) for their part in the production of this film. "Occult Forces" was the last film Riche directed before his unjust execution.

Plot: The film recounts the life of a young député who joins the Freemasons in order to relaunch his career. He thus learns of how the Freemasons are conspiring with the Jews and the Anglo-american nations to encourage France into a war against Germany.

The film was commissioned in 1942 by the Propaganda Abteilung, a delegation of Nazi Germany's propaganda ministry within occupied France by the ex-Mason Mamy. It virulently denounces Freemasonry, parliamentarianism and Jews as part of Vichy's drive against them and seeks to prove a Jewish-Masonic plot. On France's "liberation" its writer Jean Marquès-Rivière, its producer Robert Muzard and its direction Jean Mamy were purged for collaboration with the enemy. On 25 November 1945, Muzard was condemned to 3 years in prison and Marquès-Rivière was condemned in his absence (he had gone into self-imposed exile) to death and degradation. Mamy had also been a journalist on L'Appel under Pierre Constantini (leader of the Ligue française d'épuration, d'entraide sociale et de collaboration européenne) and on the collaborationist journal Au pilori, and was thus condemned to death and executed at the fortress of Montrouge on 29 March 1949.

Yes, they probably don't like him since Hitler tried to destroy Freemasonry, but he had obvious reasons for it.

Nevertheless, I still can't get my head around the fact that all those masons are willfully working on their own genocide. At least, for the ones that are 'in the know' by the likes of those ATS moderators... I mean, how can those idiots shut down topics regarding white genocide..?
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The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is better than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it. Next to this, the form of a learned or literary society is best suited to our purpose, and had Free Masonry not existed, this cover would have been employed; and it may be much more than a cover, it may be a powerful engine in our hands. By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries, and taking these under our direction, and supplying them through our labours, we may turn the public mind which way we will.”

– Adam Weishaupt (Order name Spartacus), founder of the Illuminati in John Robison’s Proofs of a Conspiracy, 1793.

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In his own words, Weishaupt explains the importance of using Freemasonry as the ideal cover, saying, “None is fitter than the three lower degrees of Freemasonry; the public is accustomed to it, expect little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it.”

Weishaupt wrote, “I declare and I challenge all mankind to contradict my declaration, that no man can give any account of the order of Freemasonry, of its origin, of its history, of its object, nor any explanation of its mysteries and symbols, which does not leave the mind in total uncertainty on all these points. Every man is entitled therefore, to give any explanation of the symbols and a system of the doctrine that he can render palatable.” (Robison, John – Proofs of a Conspiracy p. 63) (See Freemasonry p. 225)

Albert Pike writes: "The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is NOT INTENDED that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall IMAGINE he understands them. (Pike, p 819)

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Mr. Pike claims, that all of the worlds religions are "one religion and one worship" and combined, all the world religions are really the same religion (sound familiar?)

Mr. Pike promotes this "unitarian" belief throughout his book, Morals & Dogma:

Masonry, around whose alters the Christian, the Hebrew, the Moslem, the Brahmin, the followers of Confucious and Zoroaster, can assemble as brethren and unite in prayer to the one God who is above all the Baalim, (Morals and Dogma, pg 226)

Every Masonic Lodge is a Temple of religion; and its teachings are instructions in religion (pg 213)

Morals and Dogma page 102



On page 321, Mr. Pike posts the question "How could Lucifer be equated with Spirit of Darkness?" Pike draws our attention to the fact that Lucifer, in Hebrew is "Heylel" which means - "morning star" (in the sense of brightness)

Pike believed the pagan doctrine that Lucifer was the beneficent god who taught men science."



Mr. Pike, then argues that the Christian doctrine which teaches that Lucifer is the "Devil" is man's attempt to explain Evil. Therefore, Mr. Pike contends on page 102 above, identifying Lucifer as "Satan" is a legend ... a creation of men.

Rev. 12:9-10 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.



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What must a person do to join the Masonic Lodge? It is in this process where the truly occult nature of Freemasonry begins to reveal itself. To begin, each prospective Mason must go thru an initiation process where they are blindfolded, with a noose placed around their neck, and led, with a sword to their chest, into the inner room of the Lodge where an altar is set-up. Behind the alter stands a man called "The Worshipful Master." He is the master of the Lodge and presides over the initiation ceremony. All prospective Masons will bow down before "The Worshipful Master" and say the following, "I am lost in darkness, and I need the light of Freemasonry."

Following this declaration, the initiate is required to take a blood oath, swearing allegiance to the Lodge and pledging to protect all of the secrets of Masonry. This blood oath, repeated by every Mason who has joined the Lodge goes like this, "Binding myself under no less a penalty than having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sands of the sea…" Blood oaths such as this one are not limited to the initiation ceremony, but are repeated at each new degree as the Mason progresses through the secrets of Freemasonry.

And what are the secrets one learns as they progress through the degrees of Freemasonry? It soon becomes apparent that Freemasonry is very much a religion and its goal is to unify the people and religions of the world under the banner of a universal religion, where creeds, doctrines, and individual faith are done away with and replaced by a universal brotherhood of good works.

Dr. Albert Pike, the most universally accepted authority on Freemasonry who wrote what is termed by many to be the "Bible of Masonry" (Morals & Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Rite), said this, "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion, and its teachings are instruction in religion" (p. 213). Pike also declared that Masonry is, "The universal, eternal, immutable religion, such as God planted it in the heart of universal humanity. No creed has ever been long lived that was not built upon this foundation… The ministers of this religion are all Masons… Its sacrifices to God are good works… and perpetual efforts to attain to all the moral perfection of which man is capable" (p. 219).

One thing that is important to understand is that Masons do not discriminate against people of any religious background- they only require that their members have a belief in a god, any god. The name of a person's god is not important to the Masonic Lodge. Why? It is unimportant because as you progress thru the degrees of Freemasonry you will discover and learn the true identity of god, the Masonic god.

Manly P. Hall, another prominent Masonic leader declared, "The true Mason is not creed-bound. He realizes with the divine illumination of his lodge that as a Mason his religion must be universal: Christ, Buddha, or Mohammed, the name means little, for he recognizes only the light and not the bearer. He worships at every shrine, bows before every altar, whether in temple, mosque or cathedral, realizing with his truer understanding the oneness of all spiritual truth" ("The Lost Keys of Freemasonry", p. 65).

Thus, the goal of Freemasonry is to discover the true identity of god. Masons say that the name of the true god was lost when the architect of Solomon's temple, Hiram Abiff, was murdered; and so, the goal of Masonry is to progress through the degrees of the Lodge to learn the true identity of god. This process further reveals the occult nature of Freemasonry.

As you progress through the degrees of Masonry, to any discerning mind, it becomes readily apparent who the god of Freemasonry truly is. On the way to discovering the true identity of god, the Mason, in the 17th degree of the Scottish Rite, is first given a secret password and a sacred word that will allow them to continue their progression through the degrees of the Lodge; this sacred word of Masonry is "Abbadon". What or who is "Abbadon"? Well, in Revelation 9:11 Abbadon is the king of the demons in the pit of Hell. And the name of this demon king is the sacred word, needed by all Masons, to advance in degrees so that they might discover the true identity of god.

To be initiated into the Shrine, to become a Shriner, as part of their blood oath at the altar of initiation, the Shriner must bow down, with his hands tied behind his back, and swear an oath in the name of "Allah, the God of our Fathers!"

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The topic of Islam and Freemasonry is a very sensitive topic for Muslims because Shrine Masonry in particular, employs Islamic symbolism, philosophy and the entire general theme of Shrinedom evolves around so-called aspects of Islamic history and the Islamic religion.

The Mystic Shrine legend so-called had its inception in 644 A. D. in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, relative to Shia Islam in particular, and Caliph Ali Ibn Ibi Talib in general, the son-in-law and cousin of the Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, the founder of the Islamic religion.

NOBLES OF THE MYSTIC SHRINE

There is a contemporary belief in Shrinedom teachings that acknowledge that the ritual (the Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine) was compiled, arranged and issued at Aleppo, Saudi Arabia, by Louis Maracci, the great Latin Translator of Muhammad's AI-Koran. In 1871 the ritual was brought to America by transient foreign members and representatives and placed in the hands of Dr. Walter M. Flemings 33rd degree, Sovereign Inspector General A and A. Rite, and Eminent Commander of Columbia Commandry No.1. Knights Templar of New York.

W. J. Florence came from Europe bringing with him the Oriental Ritual of the order, as it was worked in foreign countries. 1876 W. J. Florence called together such of the original members of the organization of 1871 as were living and constituted in December 1876 Mecca Temple No.1 as head of the Ancient Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Caucasian Shrine Order) III America.

There is some belief that Caucasian Shriners do practice Islam in secrecy, but African American Shriners who belong to the Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine founded in 1893, has a romanticized ritual and view of Islam, that lack the seriousness, in which Caucasian Shriners truly observe Islam as the final Masonic step in their traveling from west to east in search of more light in Masonry.

Muslims in general, view Shrine Masonry as profane, heretical and blasphemous. However, the majority of African-American Islam had its roots in Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine; moreover, Noble Abdul Sharrief Ali (Noble Drew Ali) the founder of the Moorish Science Temple of America in 1913 formalized the first Islamic organization in America in Newark, New Jersey, he himself was 33rd degree Mason.

This writer interviewed some African American Prince Hall Masons that were Initiated, Passed and Raised in a Prince Hall lodges and they shared with me that each degree required study and recitation of ritual, which other than the subject matter was no different than the experiences of many Muslims whom I interviewed in the Nation of Islam.

ELIJAH MUHAMMAD SAYS MASONRY WAS NOT MEANT FOR THE BLACK MAN

Elijah Muhammad depicts Freemasonry as a true rendition of the Caucasian man's history whom blacks permitted to come amongst them in the Holy Land, but once they started causing trouble and confusion, according to Muhammad they were stripped of everything (interpreted to mean the Islamic Supreme Wisdom), other than the original man's language, e.g., of the royal garments and gave him an apron to hide his shame, hoodwinked and cable towed him and ran him 2200 miles across the hot Arabian Desert. Muhammad teaches that the Asiatic Black man chased him back to the hills and cave sides of Europe (a place of darkness and un-enlightenment).

THE SHRINERS RECOGNITION TEST

Muhammad also maintains that when the black Shriners crosses over the hot burning sands, it is an indication that he lacks the knowledge of self and history (the black man is original home is the East but he has been made blind, death and dumb to the knowledge of self). The Caucasian man who is originally from the West, it is he who must TRAVEL East in search of attaing those higher lessons of knowledge.

In the Shriners recognition test, it is formatted in a Question and Answer sequence it reads:

Are you a Noble of the Mystic Shrine?"

ANSWER: "I am so accepted by all men of noble birth."

QUESTION: "Have you traveled any?"

ANSWER: "I Have."

QUESTION: "From where to what place have you traveled?"

ANSWER: "Traveled east over the hot burning sands of the desert."

QUESTION: "Where were you stopped at?"

ANSWER: "At the Devils Pass."

QUESTION: What were you requested to do?"

ANSWER: "I was requested to give a few drops of urine."

QUESTION: "Why were you requested to do this?"

ANSWER: "As a token of my renouncing the wiles and evils of this world, and be granted permission to worship at the shrine"

QUESTION: "At what shrine did you worship?"

ANSWER: "At the Shrine of Islam." QUESTION: "Did you ride?"

ANSWER: "Yes I rode the camel, until I was caused to dismount."

QUESTION: "Then what you do with your camel?" ANSWER: "I tied him."

QUESTION: "Where did you tie him?"

ANSWER: "I tied him to a date tree where all true and good Shriners so do."

Muhammad stated: "I will not go into the history of the Masons since I was a Mason myself once and I swore, too, not reveal the secrets. Masons who have reached such degrees as 32nd and 33,d are not called Masons. They are called Moslem Shriners. They are reaching up to us. When you take the 33rd degree you are taught to greet each other; 'As- Salaam Alaikum '. You are taught Islam from then on because you become a Muslim when that degree is conferred on you. At least you are supposed to be a believer in Islam. They teach you, almost from the start, to turn your face to the east."

Elijah Muhammad stated" "Only in higher freemasonry is there a little teachings at the top, mostly of this particular order that mentions the teachings of Almighty God Allah, but ( you have to pay a lot of money to become a 33'rd degree Mason. .. A Mason cannot be a good Mason unless he knows the Holy Qur'an and follow its teachings ... "

Shriners claim the Son-in-law and cousin of Noble Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al-Amin (aka Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, Amiyrul Mu 'Miniyn Ali (Ali Ibn Abi Talib), the commander of the faithful, founded this secret society in 644 A.D.

Incorporated within their studies are the basic precepts of AI-Islam. The laws of the Mystic Shrine are not to be broken. They are to be kept secret and never let out or passed on to anyone

SHRINERS SPEAK THE SAME AS MUSLIMS

Here is another example of a Shriner's traveling card explicitly using Islamic vernacular that reads:

"In the name of Allah, Merciful, and Compassionate. I desire to visit a Temple or Shrine in many cities. He is a good man, patient, cultural of sterling worth. There is no conqueror but Allah. Authorized with power by the Imperial Council Ancient Arabic Order Lodges of The Mystic Shrine. Witness the deputy and representative of temples in the East. Mohammed traveled from Mecca in the South to the North in Medina. Please Allah, we shall travel every where in safety. Small things influence great. Do not travel in the heat of the day. Travel with your eyes and ears open. By the grace if Allah, we have found repentance. Politeness is small solver. Action is power. Everything is from Allah. There is no deity, but Allah".

My research revealed that the Holy Qur'an is used in the Shrine Temple, in fact the first Quranic chapter titled, "Al-Fatihah" (the opening) is recited. This is the language used by the Shriners: "Assalamo Aleikum was rahmatullah " which the Shriners translate from Arabic to English interpret as "Be Our Salutations and God's Blessing on You". 40

It is further stated in broken Arabic: Alhamdo-Lilahi Rabbil A 'lamen Arrahman Irrahim Malik -I Youmiddin. Iyyaka Na ' Buda- Iyyaka Nasta' In Ehdinnassiraim Ustabin Sinatallazina An ' Amta Ailaihim Ghairil Maghzubilalahim Walazzalin Aamin. 41

This Arabic Islamic prayer is translated by the Shriners in the English language as such, "All possible amount of praises and thankfulness goes to God who is the creator and cherisher of all the worlds. He is most kind, most merciful. He is the only King of the day of judgment. 0' Allah! Only thee do we worship and only thee do we beg assistance (in all our needs). Guide us the right wiry; the way of those to whom you been gracious and bountiful; not those who go astray, Aamin! (Grant my prayers)."

This above phraseology is the identical Quranic verses that are often recited in Islamic Mosques and Masjids as one of the majestic prayers of Islam, with the exception to the poor Arabic as cited by the Shriners.

The Shrine Obligation explicitly uses Islamic terminology " ... On my voluntary desire, uninfluenced and of free accord do hereby assume, without reserve, the Obligations of the Nobility of the Mystic Shrine, as did the elect of the Temple of Mecca, the Moslem and the Mohammedan. I do hereby, upon the Bible, and mysterious legend of the Koran, and its dedication to the Mohammedan faith, promise and swear and vow on the faith and honor of an upright man, come weal or woe, adversity or success, that I will never reveal any secret part or portion whatsoever of the ceremonies I have received ."

The Shrine Obligation goes on "In willful violations where of I may incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to the center with a three-edged blade, my fleet flayed and I be forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the Red Sea until the flaming Sun shall strike me with a livid plague, and may Allah, the God of Arab Moslem and Mohammedan, the God of our fathers, support me the entire fulfillment of the same Amen. Amen. Amen".

www.dailygrail.com/blogs/fahim-k ... they-share

This early Islam Temple badge is made of brass and commemorates the 1905 trip by them to Niagara Falls, N.Y. It is full of Shrine symbolism with the pyramid on the bottom and Horn of Plenty at the top. The border is decorated in flowers and scenes of Niagara Falls are in the center.



1915 Islam Shrine Temple

Etched Glass Vase




The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, also commonly known as Shriners and abbreviated A.A.O.N.M.S., established in 1870
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So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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...every real Truther-forum will have a lot about Hitler going on, as he was the greatest Truther / conspiracy theorist of all.

:larf: :larf: :larf:

He was:
- a statist
- a national socialist
- the founder of a very imperialistic (Lebensraum) empire
- extremely self-confident and arrogant
- saw no problem in dragging millions of people into war
- no respect for others, only for himself and his doggy

You call that a truth seeker? Then your standards are very very skewed.

The question is what may falsify your belief in him as an honest man. What data has to be found in order for you to change your world view. If there's nothing and he will always be your hero, then it's called belief, religion, superstition.

The belief in supernatural things (Gods) is far less dangerous than the belief in people who displayed a very gruesome way of dealing with other human beings... :yerright:

And that forums are controlled is I think no surprise to anyone a little bit awake. I understood most (if not all) of the long-term members of Truth Zone come from the David Icke forum. David Icke is a disinfo clown himself, so his forum (never checked it) would be controlled (opposition) too...
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...every real Truther-forum will have a lot about Hitler going on, as he was the greatest Truther / conspiracy theorist of all.

:larf: :larf: :larf:

He was:
- a statist
- a national socialist
- the founder of a very imperialistic (Lebensraum) empire
- extremely self-confident and arrogant
- saw no problem in dragging millions of people into war
- no respect for others, only for himself and his doggy

You call that a truth seeker? Then your standards are very very skewed.

The question is what may falsify your belief in him as an honest man. What data has to be found in order for you to change your world view. If there's nothing and he will always be your hero, then it's called belief, religion, superstition.

The belief in supernatural things (Gods) is far less dangerous than the belief in people who displayed a very gruesome way of dealing with other human beings... :yerright:

And that forums are controlled is I think no surprise to anyone a little bit awake. I understood most (if not all) of the long-term members of Truth Zone come from the David Icke forum. David Icke is a disinfo clown himself, so his forum (never checked it) would be controlled (opposition) too...

- National Socialism means something completely different then socialism.
Matter of fact, it is the opposite of socialism! Yet, you see only the word socialism and are blinded by it.

- He was no founder of "Lebensraum".
Only thing he did was reunite with Austria and wanted Germany to be independent.. but you have been propagandised by your schoolbooks

- He certainly was self confident.. but that's what you get with one of the greatest leaders the world has ever known.
What else did you expect of a leader of his magnitude? To be less selfconfident..?

- He saw no problem dragging millions of people into the war?
Well, it were the Jews who started it in 1933, by putting a boycot onto Germany in order to starve the German people into surrender
Matter of fact, Hitler tried everything to prevent the war and sent approx. 20 peace proposals to Churchill, but he would have none of it.
So guess who the warmongers really were back in the day?

- No respect for others?
The man respected his people like none other.
Matter of fact again; the guy received more fanmail then the Beatles, Mick Jagger and Madonna combined and didn't have to drive around
in armored vehicles. The people loved him. Now do you really think that would be the case if he would have no respect for anyone and he was a tyrant against his own people??
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

- Adolf Hitler, in Berlin, 01 May 1935
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