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TOPIC: Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth?

Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 23 Aug 2014 19:53 #261

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 23 Aug 2014 20:02 #262

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Frog wrote:
The Scots wouldn't have the opportunity to vote if the State didn't think they could engineer the result that they require! That's why they are letting pro-EU indoctrinated children vote. A Yes vote is exactly what the State wants and the suckers are dancing to the merry tune. Voting to become the next Ireland, Greece, Italy, Spain or Portugal really seems like a rational thing to do. :facepalm: Good like in your continued enslavement enjoy the benefits of increased poverty in your EU police state. :thumbup:

That'll be why every NWO body and Jewish controlled superpower is chiming in AGAINST independence?

Don't think we all fall for the EU etc. Once we get a YES the SNP will be called to brook...

I hope.... anyway lol

Good luck England under the sons of Ralph Milliband....

How Jewish IS the BBC?

Maybe we Scots can get a roll going on an honest local media, maybe not, but otherwise FOR SURE we are going to get full spectrum lies indoctrination via Westminster.
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"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 23 Aug 2014 20:03 #263

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Frog wrote:
The best way for threads to rise and fall is for people to participate in the threads that interest them. IMHO

Yes but what if these people are actually a person, or a tag team?
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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 23 Aug 2014 20:06 #264

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Frog wrote:
Cool, can you post the links to the supporting research and other verifiable evidence that we can review to establish the validity of your claims?

Already did over @ DIF but am ready to re-iterate in the light of new research I have done, not a short answer however.

Lets start with the aether. You are aware of the Sagnac effect? put to good use in LASER gyroscopes?

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will take this discussion onto a more deserving thread :yup:
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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 24 Aug 2014 02:33 #265

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How do a few threads exposing the nefarious nature of the DIF have an effect on the topics discussed here? Members here can discuss whatever they like as and when they like and the popular or most current topics reflect what they are interested in.

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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 24 Aug 2014 04:21 #266

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The Scots wouldn't have the opportunity to vote if the State didn't think they could engineer the result that they require! That's why they are letting pro-EU indoctrinated children vote. A Yes vote is exactly what the State wants and the suckers are dancing to the merry tune. Voting to become the next Ireland, Greece, Italy, Spain or Portugal really seems like a rational thing to do. :facepalm: Good like in your continued enslavement enjoy the benefits of increased poverty in your EU police state. :thumbup:


That'll be why every NWO body and Jewish controlled superpower is chiming in AGAINST independence?

Yeh right! The NWO aren't interested in manipulating borders and establishing divided populations. They have no interested in establishing small easily populations which they can exploit, abuse and extract sweat equity from while they bury them under a mountain of inescapable debt.

Don't think we all fall for the EU etc. Once we get a YES the SNP will be called to brook...

I hope.... anyway lol


You can laugh about it right now but we both know that the Scottish people wont have any say in the matter. Look at the state of Ireland ffs how hard is it to see where Scotland is being taken?

Good luck England under the sons of Ralph Milliband...

Thanks we need all the luck we can get!

How Jewish IS the BBC?

Maybe we Scots can get a roll going on an honest local media, maybe not, but otherwise FOR SURE we are going to get full spectrum lies indoctrination via Westminster.


Yep of course you can get an honest media system set up but I seriously doubt that you will achieve it.

All five million of you are sure to make a difference and stand against the oppression, on that craggy outcrop of rocky land, with poor productive value and limited growing season.

The vermin in Westminster many of who have been Scots infest many parts of the world. They don't restrict their lies and BS to the British Isles and them and the BBC there aren't many safe havens from at least some British establishment indoctrination.

I wonder how long it will take for the sectarian divide is provoked and erupts into an internal conflict? Pre or post the inevitable economic implosion?

This is what you can expect in the longer term http://www.bbc.co.uk/news and the same situation applies north of the border. Ireland is in real trouble and it's amazing that the Scots don't have the sense to see where they are headed. Not in the least bit surprising though the NWO have lead people round by the nose for centuries.

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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 24 Aug 2014 07:37 #267

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www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2ecuwy/in_concave_earth_sun_actually_goes_up_when_it/





Well, quite funny.
The space shuttle goes up all the time but it looks like it goes down. Same thing applies to sun in Concave Earth :)

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Well, quite funny.
The space shuttle goes up all the time but it looks like it goes down. Same thing applies to sun in Concave Earth :)

But can that observation of shuttle behaviour still makes sense in convex earth scenario, due to earths rotation. Id like illustrate my understanding of it with a crude gif image but its too involved for me to make one right now. :hahano: .

Shuttle is moving up (vertical) but the earth is rotating...now lets assume the shuttle is travelling in a fixed vertical direction once its off the ground and not rotating with the earth... the earths rotation changes the viewers relationship to the shuttle, changes the angle, and the shuttle will start to appear lower on the horizon until it vanishes altogether.

Im just debating here btw, i never claim to know all the answers. :D
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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 24 Aug 2014 10:03 #269

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I found this on some news site btw, i dont even know how i got there so dont ask, but i wasnt searching for it thats for sure. :hahano: But ignore what it is and look at the view.

Apparently it was filmed up to 60, 000 feet if you read the youtube 'about'.. though the rig got to 100, 000 feet before the balloon burst... now i know camera lenses play a part in what we see but make of it what you will.



It does show us that we too could probably make a balloon and launch it, get some footage, without spending too much money perhaps. :think: :scheme:
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But can that observation of shuttle behaviour still makes sense in convex earth scenario, due to earths rotation.

No, Earth's supposed 'rotation' plays no role here :) :thumbup:

For the same reason that shuttles and sun appear to go down (when they actually go up), ships hide behind the horizon. They sail up when they disappear or down when they emerge over the horizon.

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Hollow World Theory, Inner World Cosmos, Skycentrism - We Live In The Concave Earth? 24 Aug 2014 22:48 #271

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The Hollow World of the National Socialists



Note: This excerpt from an article describes an experiment and I would be very much interested
in the results, indeed. But apparently the results of this research cannot be found any more.




OUR KNOWLEDGE OF BEING - 1926


de.scribd.com/doc/233663062/Johannes-Lang-Unser-Wissen-Vom-Sein-1926
archive.org/details/Lang-Johannes-Die-Hohlwelttheorie




"It's April of the year 1942. Germany sacrificed all its forces for war. Nothing, it seems, can distract the
technicians, the scholars and the generals from their immediate task. And yet a mysterious expedition
leaves the mainland with the approval of Goering, Himmler and Hitler. The members of this research
group are some of the best German radar specialists.


Under the leadership of Dr. Heinz Fischer, who won fame with his work on infrared rays, they land on the
island of Rügen in the Baltic Sea. They are equipped with the most accomplished radars. What is more,
there are only a few of these devices at this time and they are needed especially at the critical points of the
German defense. The observations, however, that need to be adressed on the island of Rügen, are considered
indispensable by the General Staff of the Navy for the offensive, which Hitler prepared on all fronts.


No sooner have they landed, than Dr. Fischer has the devices set pointing at the sky at an angle of 45 degrees.
In the chosen direction, however, obviously nothing is to discover. The other members of the expedition believe
that this was just a test. The purpose of the investigation is to be communicated to them later on.
They note with surprise, that the radars remain in the same position for several days.
But then comes the explanation:


The Führer has good reason to suppose that the earth is not convex but concave.


We do not dwell on the earth, but inside and are thus comparable to flies, moving over the inner surface of a
glass ball. The expedition had received the order to provide scientific proof of this truth. By the reflection of radar
waves, which propagate in a straight line, you would get pictures of the most distant points inside the sphere.
The second purpose of the expedition was to procure images of the English fleet anchored at Scapa Flow by reflection.


Martin Gardner reports about this "crazy" venture on the island of Rügen in his 1952 work

"In the Name of Science".



www.amazon.com/In-name-science-Martin-Gardner/dp/B0007DPDJS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1408911594&sr=8-5&keywords=martin+gardner+in+the+name+of+science


Also Dr. Fischer himself alludes to it after the war.


Professor Gerard P. Kuiper from the observatory at Mount Palomar, in 1946 dedicated a series of articles
to the Hollow World theory, which had given rise to this expedition. In Popular Astronomy he writes:


"Important personalities of the German Navy and the Air Force believed in the Hollow World theory.
Above all, they thought that it is possible to observe the movements of the British fleet on the basis of this theory,
because the concave curvature of the earth would permit observations on very long distances by means of infrared
rays, which are less curved than the visible rays."



The engineer Willy Ley reports the same facts in his study "Pseudoscience in Nazi Land" (sic) [1]
written in May 1947. "As amazing as it sounds, it is true: high National Socialist officials and military experts
denied outright what is an obvious truth for every little child of our civilized world, namely that the earth is a
sphere and that we are living outside, on its surface." :wissl: (typical ridiculing)





See also: Hollow World theory / Inner World Cosmos (German)
Source: autarkes-rattelsdorf.blogspot.de/2013/07/die-hohle-welt-der-nationalsozialisten.html
Original Source: wiki.atlantisforschung.de/index.php/Die_hohle_Welt_der_Nationalsozialisten (deleted!)
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LOGIC



All theories based on the FALSE Copernican system are FALSE.









See the graphics and diagrams
archive.org/details/Lang-Johannes-Die-Hohlwelttheorie
I'll try to translate excerpts asap.


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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Frog wrote:
How do a few threads exposing the nefarious nature of the DIF have an effect on the topics discussed here? Members here can discuss whatever they like as and when they like and the popular or most current topics reflect what they are interested in.

Yes, TZ doesn't give a hoot for DIF, yet the major threads so far are DIF related lol

Never mind Frog, i am here to help change that....
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
LOGIC

I doubt you would recognize logic if it crawled out your humus.... :yup:

You have NO IDEA what E = 1/2 mv**2 means, yet you want us to revise our model of the physical world based on, what? Admiral Byrd of the Antarctic? Google Earth artifacts?

Now lets see

1) You try to discredit me from the get go, nothing to do with the fact i may be a dangerously sharp poster?
2) You run a tag team with Sky to keep the ludicrous Hollow Earth nonsense upfront on the main page.

Let's use logic here....


Hmmmm.... :ponda:
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
LOGIC

I doubt you would recognize logic if it crawled out your humus.... :yup:

You have NO IDEA what E = 1/2 mv**2 means, yet you want us to revise our model of the physical world based on, what? Admiral Byrd of the Antarctic? Google Earth artifacts?

Now lets see

1) You try to discredit me from the get go, nothing to do with the fact i may be a dangerously sharp poster?
2) You run a tag team with Sky to keep the ludicrous Hollow Earth nonsense upfront on the main page.


Let's use logic here....


Hmmmm.... :ponda:

First gogol result:

www.physikerboard.de/topic,11525,-e%3Dmc%5E2-vs-e%3D%281-2%29mv%5E2.html

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I guess you can spam your own threads, but please, not mine.I reported you for that borat post. i am not having that!

Now, most of your posts are what i would call "on message", but then so are Bother Nathaniel Kapner's, his job is to sell Putin to the truthers. I am sure you have one too now, after what i have seen since coming here.
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Brother Nathaniel Kapner's, his job is to sell Putin to the truthers.

:ponda:

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novum wrote:
rodin wrote:
Brother Nathaniel Kapner's, his job is to sell Putin to the truthers.

:ponda:

:D


Please do not EXCERPT this most ON TOPIC part, Novum!


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Its still about 'truther' stuff... youre free to start a stand alone thread about men vs women and so on :P

And nobody really wants to see borat in a mankini either. :noway:
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LOGIC

All theories based on the FALSE Copernican system are FALSE.


oi58.tinypic.com/3522g45.jpg

See the graphics and diagrams
archive.org/details/Lang-Johannes-Die-Hohlwelttheorie
I'll try to translate excerpts asap.




I doubt you would recognize logic if it crawled out your humus.... :yup:

You have NO IDEA what E = 1/2 mv**2 means, yet you want us to revise our model of the physical world based on, what? Admiral Byrd of the Antarctic? Google Earth artifacts?

Now lets see

1) You try to discredit me from the get go, nothing to do with the fact i may be a dangerously sharp poster?
2) You run a tag team with Sky to keep the ludicrous Hollow Earth nonsense upfront on the main page.

Let's use logic here....

Hmmmm.... :ponda:





None of the members, including yourself, who are ridiculing, defaming and derailing this thread on valid NON-MAINSTREAM research in the most base ways right from the start, was able to refute a singe result of this research.


The subject is not new, it only got hidden by the ptb and their orthodox = corrupt "science" propaganda department, researchers in the course of centuries received the very same treatment by the ptb and their minions like member Skycentrism and myself on this forum.
So nothing new under the sun.


German researchers eg Johannes Lang in the early and Rolf Keppler in the late 20th century restarted to work on it, nonetheless, and produced new proof, some of the statements of the latter might be looked upon as partially flawed, though.


Why is it that the 'critics' are stubbornly denying to do their own research on this topic, just like you and others here, and instead prefer to comply completely with the mainstream doctrine, of course this is the easiest way, and then start to call "BS" without having made the effort to understand a single post and not even the subject !.


The topic here is NOT the "Hollow Earth Theory", which can also be found on this forum in the most interesting thread started by Chandrakavi -> truth-zone.net/forum/planet-earth/64088-hollow-earth.html
There you will find what you are trying to discredit in your ardent frenzy: "Admiral Byrd of the Antarctic? Google Earth artifacts?".


The topic of this thread is "Skycentrism" aka "Inner World Cosmos" aka "Hollow World Cosmos" !


As you are most obviously not even able to distinguish between both of these theories,
- which differ fundamentally -
how dare you jump in on this thread and call the free NON-MAINSTREAM research,
that we are doing here under great personal trouble, for there is almost nothing available
which you can just copy & paste due to the - to me now LOGIC - suppression and destructiveness
by the ptb regarding this - LOGIC in every respect - theory,
"BS" !


This is outright typical shill behaviour.

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and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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