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MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2 05 Aug 2015 13:16 #61

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MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2

The Mocking Talmudic Pi$$take is a recurrent "Kilroy was here" fake AshkaNazi Jew in-joke taking various forms, embedded in the fake nuke Test Films mocking the gullible gentile outsiders who their propaganda was designed to deceive and scare $hitless.

King Juda was "supposededly" the King of the Marshall Islanders who agreed that his people be uprooted from their homeland and transported to various places where they were subjected to terrible hardship and practically starved to death!!!!.
Go to this video (YouTube's talkingstick.tv channel. US Declassified Nuclear Test Film #02) and check it out for yourselves.




At 30:50 where fake "King Juda" is shown boarding a launch on his way to the US ship Mount McKinley we are told (verbatim) by the commentator:-
Flown from Rongerik to witness the historical event is King Juda, ruler of Bikini. It was he who unselfishly gave his island to the United States in order that these experiments could be conducted".

Do you believe the Islanders agreed to this of their own free will? I certainly don't. I also have grave doubts as to the existence of a real person called "King Juda".
The name was picked by the Hollywood "chosenites" to covertly pay tribute to one of their "Liar in Chiefs" J. Robert Oppen$limer.

Later at 36:06 the commentary continues verbatim:
Another angle to the blast is photographed from the Mount Mckinley where King Juda displays a marked interest in the proceedings.
"

To me, that seems a very strange comment to make. The King of these island people takes a marked interest in watching his peoples homeland being "allegedly" devastated?????????
King Juda is an actor. No Nukes were detonated as they never worked. The pose below is pure Lookout Mountain Hollywood.
Looking at the blast through binoculars is supposed to cause blindness and chorio retinal burns!!!!!!.....lmao!



The frame above^ at 36:10 shows a figure with his hand obscuring his face standing beside fake "King Juda" who is looking through a pair of binoculars.



At 36:11 he lowers his hand to reveal a fleeting glimpse of his face.



Have you got it yet?



The commentary refers to the figure on the left of the highlighted frames who fronted the HOAX!!!.

None other than the AshkeNazi liar and fraudster J. Robert Oppenheimer.....King JUDAH chief architect of the Nuclear Weapons Hoax.

What we see here is nothing short of depraved mockery aimed at the overwhelming majority of the worlds population, and perpetrated at the expense of the former inhabitants of Bikini.
They were booted out, treated terribly, for no other reason than to use their atoll homeland as a giant Hollywood stage set where the Nuclear Weapons Myth and the Cold War Myths were generated using Hollywood fakery.

Tragic though this may be, it pales into insignificance when compared to the destructive effect the creation of this false meme of non-existent doomsday weapons has had. By accepting the deception you have unwittingly given a very small group of people the ultimate psychological and political weapon they required to bring into being a system of global slavery.

Time to wake up!
US, UK, France, Russia, India, China's Nukes all a Hoax and a GIGANTIC $CAM! The Cold War was a Hoax. North Korea's Nukes are a Hoax, Iran's Nukes are a Hoax.
Israels Nukes are a Hoax.


You don't need three guesses to see who is behind the "fear porn" HAARP is a weather weapon Hoax either!
NUKES ARE A HOAX
TRUTH IS HATE FOR THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH
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MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2 05 Aug 2015 15:20 #62

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Exorcist wrote:
Have you got it yet?

Have you? My title was bang on from the get-go
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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Originally Posted by rodin on the DIF Nuke Hoax thread:

@Moving Finger - please explain

Moving Finger (schill) replied:
It's not the vapourising that makes the shadow, it's the fact that an object is between a very intense light/heat source and something else. The intense heat changes the colour of the receiving medium, while the areas blocked off by whatever is in the way is protected. The intensity of the effect depends on how direct the line is from the atom bomb to the objects.

I (kaito on the DIF) chipped in:
Which ignors the "bleedin' obvious" in that the shadows appear to be cast on lapped TIMBER horizontal boarding. The protected timber hidden by the man and the ladder should be light coloured and the unprotected boarding exposed to the infrared heat from the blast should be scorched BLACK!!!.....not "ar$e about face" as depicted in the FAKED PHOTOGRAPH!!!.....

MF well and truly got his ar$e kicked on this one :pmsl:
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 05 Aug 2015 16:38 #64

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Originally Posted by Exorcist (kaito) on the DIF
@Ranb
Would you like to reconsider what you've said in your post #1485 before I expose it's method and content as typical disinformation troll Bull$hit? ........just for you I'll also include some frame grabs from another US Government "Fake" Declassified Nuclear Test film:
Operation Castle (1954) from YouTube's talkingstick.tv channel. Total of 73 Declassified US Nuclear Test Films
It shows another fake mushroom. Unfortunately the incompetent "sanitizers", who checked the film before release, failed to notice that it also shows the faker cameraman reflected in the back projection screen....

Look at the sequence starting at around 4:46.





Interested followers of the thread can confirm the veracity of the framegrabs by watching
Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #13 on the YouTube talkingsticktv channel.





Note the juddering of the fake Mushroom Cloud sequence is exactly in sequence with the faker cameraman's head/hand movement.....
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 05 Aug 2015 17:09 #65

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Relating to the previous post^ at about 18:11 there is another short sequence of the same fake test film where the fakers make another "mega cockup" They used a mirrored version of the fake Mushroom in the later sequence. (Mushroom possibly created by some sort of Lava Lamp apparatus as suggested by rerevisionist of BigLies.org)



Above I've placed a framegrab at 18:11 below a Frame grab at 05:21 for comparison.
The formation of the mushroom head was probably faked using a "lava lamp" technique, The moving stem was added as a separate lavalamp elememt as was the cloud scene element and the condensation "smoke ring" element.
The 18.11 sequence is a mirror of the 5.21 sequence with some incompetent alterations!



Above I've mirrored the 18:11 framegrab and placed it below the 05:21 framegrab for comparison.

1) Note the horizon is almost parallel to the bottom of the mushroom skirt in the 05:21 sequence but has a distinct angle to the horizon in the 18:11 sequence.

2) Cloud scene is completely different in the two sequences therefore definite fake.

3) "Smoke ring halo" is different in the two sequences.

4) Mushroom stem formation turmoil rises in the 5:21 sequence and is static in the 18:11 sequence.

The test film is faked.......Reason? Nukes never worked! The whole "Nuclear Weapons" $hitpile is a scaremongering Psyop Hoax....
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 05 Aug 2015 19:32 #66

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In this post I am pointing out anomalies in the US Declassified Nuclear Test Film #16 viewable here on YouTubes' talkingsticktv channel.




It deals with the the supposed effects of blast on the wings of a B-50 bomber flying close to the faked "DIXIE" Nuclear Test at Frenchman Lake on 6th April 1953.

The film purports to show filmed evidence of wing vibration caused by the blast wave. From my analysis of the wing vibration clips I can only draw the conclusion the vibration clips were "faked".



At 11:52 above we see a left wing sequence which should have been thrown on the cutting room floor as it betrays how the vibration sequences were faked!!! See the annotation for an explanation.

My comment regarding the rod anomaly vibrating in sync with the wing is conclusive proof of fakery. It can NOT be a feature on the ground and it's certainly not part part of a normal B50 wing!

The background is probably a real shot taken by an aircraft passing through clouds projected onto a back projection screen and spiced up with some mist created with dry ice. Standard Hollywood technique



At 14:10 above we see a left wing sequence where the camera direction has been corrected to exclude the rod, and the near reference marker has fallen off!!!.......:pmsl:

Also note the size of the image of the far marker reflected in the wing. It stretches almost to the decal and is thus completely out of scale!


Compare it with a USN photo of a B50 below.



At 14:54 above we have a right wing sequence. Another obvious "giveaway" in all these sequences is the orientation of the rectangular film frame (aspect) to the wing. If shot from the aircraft with a conventional tripod mounted movie camera the plane of the wing would be on the long edge of the film frame, not perpendicular to it.



Above we have a B50 schematic obtained from:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-50.htm[url]

I downloaded the drawing jpeg, imported it into AutoCad, scaled it up so the wingspan corresponds with the Boeing specification of 141.2 ft. I then measured the wing flap (2.9 say 3.0ft).



On the above photo of a B-50 bomber I have indicated with reasonable accuracy where the positions of the two wing reference markers in the faked vibration clips should be. This was deduced from the size of the decal, and the dimensioned schematic of the aircraft. The wing marker at midspan, being halfway between the inboard edge of the flap and the engine, is about 30 feet away from the marker on the wingtip.



This framegrab above at 07:16 shows the aircraft being made ready for takeoff before the test with a bullseye target marker on the wing. Note the pattern of the marker changes from bullseye to four quadrants in the faked vibration sequences!!!



If we now enlarge the above image we can fit 4 of the targets along the 3 ft flap length. This makes the diameter of the reference marker conservatively 9 inches.

This means the vibrating wing frames are DEFINITE FAKES!!!

The markers are about 30 ft apart ie 40 times the diameter of the markers.

Proof:
Stand two £1 coins upright on a table, the distance between them being 40 x their diameter. Now crouch down and look along the line of the coins comparing the apparent size of the near coin to that of the distant one.......now compare this with the size of the markers in the fake wing deflection clips! .....QED!




Just to hammer home the point at 18:14 we are shown a shot of the B50 supposedly returning to Kirtland Air Force Base after the mission. UNFORTUNATELY THE FAKERS FORGOT TO ATTACH A REFERENCE MARKER TO THE WINGTIP!!!!......:pmsl:
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MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2 05 Aug 2015 21:55 #67

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rodin wrote:
Exorcist wrote:
Have you got it yet?

Have you? My title was bang on from the get-go

I don't think Exorcist was directing this comment at you rodin and merely using the subject box to denote his recent posts - ;)
(Mario does this frequently , I believe for google search purposes )
Anyway - I have followed this thread here as I did the one in the pit and was by and large convinced back then and posted to that effect.
With all respect to those I usually find myself in agreement with but mayn't here and suggest in a friendly way to reconsider .

I'm totally convinced nuclear bombs are a hoax .
Many Pacific islanders were forced to give up there islands only for them to become military bases which deprived forever the inhabitants of their self sufficient way of life , forcing them into a squalid 'modern' life - US Gov dependents along with the usual poor housing, tinned food, medical mafia and more lab rats .
The hoaxed cold war was defined by the hoaxed nukes , redefining the post war culture of 'us and them' - making many trillions $$$$$$$$$$$$ for the Talmudic elites / cohorts, along with more trillions extorted by NASA over the last 60 + yrs .
I tend to think that deaths that have been attributed to nuclear fall out are probably due to other chemical / biological contamination that these sub-humans subjected whole communities too past and present.
The real threats like Hanford, WA, usa and so many other contaminated sites are not being cleaned up intentionally - DU is a cancer causing tool for the medical mafia. ( and slow depopulation ) .
To me all evidence strongly suggests this has been another huge hoax . Thanks to rodin and Exorcist for their posts and I would like to say Alexis1111 is highly incredible with an inside track on nasa bar none - top draw .

That the words bikini , bombshell ect go hand in hand with 'promiscuity ' and sexualization isn't a coincidence either.
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MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2 05 Aug 2015 21:58 #68

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Exorcist wrote:
MOCKING TALMUDIC PI$$TAKE 2

The Mocking Talmudic Pi$$take is a recurrent "Kilroy was here" fake AshkaNazi Jew in-joke taking various forms, embedded in the fake nuke Test Films mocking the gullible gentile outsiders who their propaganda was designed to deceive and scare $hitless.

King Juda was "supposededly" the King of the Marshall Islanders who agreed that his people be uprooted from their homeland and transported to various places where they were subjected to terrible hardship and practically starved to death!!!!.
Go to this video (YouTube's talkingstick.tv channel. US Declassified Nuclear Test Film #02) and check it out for yourselves.




At 30:50 where fake "King Juda" is shown boarding a launch on his way to the US ship Mount McKinley we are told (verbatim) by the commentator:-
Flown from Rongerik to witness the historical event is King Juda, ruler of Bikini. It was he who unselfishly gave his island to the United States in order that these experiments could be conducted".

Do you believe the Islanders agreed to this of their own free will? I certainly don't. I also have grave doubts as to the existence of a real person called "King Juda".
The name was chosen by the Hollywood "chosenites" to covertly pay tribute to one of their "Liar in Chiefs" J. Robert Oppen$limer.

Later at 36:06 the commentary continues verbatim:
Another angle to the blast is photographed from the Mount Mckinley where King Juda displays a marked interest in the proceedings.
"

To me, that seems a very strange comment to make. The King of these island people takes a marked interest in watching his peoples homeland being "allegedly" devastated?????????
King Juda is an actor. No Nukes were detonated as they never worked. The pose below is pure Lookout Mountain Hollywood.
Looking at the blast through binoculars is supposed to cause blindness and chorio retinal burns!!!!!!.....lmao!



The frame above^ at 36:10 shows a figure with his hand obscuring his face standing beside fake "King Juda" who is looking through a pair of binoculars.



At 36:11 he lowers his hand to reveal a fleeting glimpse of his face.



Have you got it yet?



The commentary refers to the figure on the left of the highlighted frames who fronted the HOAX!!!.

None other than the AshkeNazi liar and fraudster J. Robert Oppenheimer.....King JUDAH chief architect of the Nuclear Weapons Hoax.

What we see here is nothing short of depraved mockery aimed at the overwhelming majority of the worlds population, and perpetrated at the expense of the former inhabitants of Bikini.
They were booted out, treated terribly, for no other reason than to use their atoll homeland as a giant Hollywood stage set where the Nuclear Weapons Myth and the Cold War Myths were generated using Hollywood fakery.

Tragic though this may be, it pales into insignificance when compared to the destructive effect the creation of this false meme of non-existent doomsday weapons has had. By accepting the deception you have unwittingly given a very small group of people the ultimate psychological and political weapon they required to bring into being a system of global slavery.

Time to wake up!
US, UK, France, Russia, India, China's Nukes all a Hoax and a GIGANTIC $CAM! The Cold War was a Hoax. North Korea's Nukes are a Hoax, Iran's Nukes are a Hoax.
Israels Nukes are a Hoax.


You don't need three guesses to see who is behind the "fear porn" HAARP is a weather weapon Hoax either!

great post :) thankyou :up:

but HAARP isn't a hoax though - it really is real - this, chemtrails,scalar, all play a part in weather warfare / geo-engineering , food / crop , GMO's control through low rainfall and flooding ect .......and dovetails into post humanism .

www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/geoengineering/
www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/storms/
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 06 Aug 2015 11:34 #69

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The following is an analysis I posted on the now defunct Nukelies Forum and also on the DIF.

More "faked" Hiroshima photographs from the US Strategic Bombing Survey on the Emuseum site.

Building 15
Ruins of Chugoku Electric Company, Transformer Repair Station, Hiroshima]
Date: October 25, 1945
Stated cause of structural damage...Blast




Above image shows Pages 184 and 185 from the report. Page 184 gives a completely false report of the damage but not in the way you may at first think. Bear in mind the following as it is important:

1) THERE IS NO STEELWORK IN THE BUILDING!
The photo has been faked. The steel trusses, stanchions, beams etc have been drawn in by an artist (verified by the vanishing point cock-up].

2) NO HEAVY MACHINERY OR TRANSFORMER PARTS ARE VISIBLE IN THE INTERNAL PHOTOGRAPH!



Next we have Pages 186 and 187^. Page 186 shows two external shots of the building. Page 187 contains a plan and section of the building which is the "faker" artist's story board.



Next^ an analysis of the internal photograph of the large bay (PHOTO 1) in Autocad. The anomalies in the steelwork vanishing points (green lines) clearly indicate the steelwork is "faked". I can also use the two measurements taken to establish by ratio the correct height of the truss ridge line in the external photos.



Above we have the analysis drawing of the external view (PHOTO 2) with all of the perspective construction lines shown, and the correct profiles of the four trusses added using the height ratio extracted from the measurements in PHOTO 1.



In the image above I've removed the construction lines and parts of the truss profiles hidden by the walls.
Correction
The annotation in the bottom right hand corner of the image above should read:
"Where are the trusses that are present in the small bay in PHOTO 3?"



The next image (PHOTO 3) shows another external view from the south west on which I've pointed out further anomalies. The dark areas at the bottom of the cylindrical transformer components suggest they are from another photo and have been pasted in. Also note the ridge member in the large bay which is not present in the internal shot! (PHOTO1)

There are several other instances in the Emuseum photos where "fake" steelwork has been added by the Allied propagandists. You may ask "WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY WISH TO DO THIS?"
If you think about it the answer is obvious. They wished to give the impression that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were relatively undamaged before they allegedly dropped the fake nuke. I am suggesting this was not the case and.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki had already been "Tokyoed" with conventional bombs and fire bombs months before.
(Edit.....I now think there was no conventional HE bombing (no craters in the aerial photos unlike Tokyo) but fire bombs were used to complete the destruction already caused by a major earthquake....the A-Bomb missions were HOAXED!

When they sent in the photo team to provide "fake" evidence for the "fake" A bomb blast they found, to their dismay that the steelwork in the bombed out buildings had been removed months before by the Japanese for reuse in their armament industry. Steel was in short supply as Japan had become a country under seige. This is entirely credible as the same thing happened in Britain during the Blitz.

If the Allies provided photos showing no trace of roof steelwork then people would notice and start asking awkward questions so they added it in. Many of the Hiroshima & Nagasaki photos were taken within a month or so of the surrender and the fact that they show a lot of "tidying up", road clearance, trams and trains running etc suggests that the Hiro/Nag devastation happened well before the 9th/6th of August.

Also I think it's unlikely they dropped warning leaflets before, or as they say they did, afterwards. It would have drawn the attention of people in and around Nagasaki and Hiroshima to what they knew could NOT have happened. I believe the Japanese Gov. was in contact, through the Swedes? with Stalin et al and we are told they wanted to surrender months before. I seem to recall "cactusneedle?" stating the allies imposed a 12 month clampdown on all news coming out of Japan after the surrender. The reason for this would be to fake the A bomb evidence.

IMO there are two "staged history" possibilities here …..either


1)The Japanese Royal and Freemasonic Industrial Elite were secretly given the choice of supporting the A Bomb hoax and continuing in power on penalty of facing a Japanese "Nuremburg Trial". It was mainly the Japanese Military who "took the hit" in the War Crimes trials.

or….

2)The Japanese Elite together with Hitler, in full knowledge of their role, were co-opted by the Fake "Askanazi Jewish" Bankers to participate in and LOSE WWII to further the Banker's Zionist World Government agenda.

Edit
Since I first made this post in 2012 I've come across various info suggesting the civilian population of Nag or Hiro was evacuated before the date of the "supposed A-Bombings". IIRC the info's on the "Lets Roll" Forum. If I can find it I'll post a link. This further backs up the contention the damage was caused by a major earthquake and later spiced up with a fire bomb attack to support the Nuke Hoax.

Edit2
Found it!...Phil Jayhan's Post #18 on the Lets Roll Forum Thread "Do Nuclear Weapons Exist?..Are they also a Hoax?"


www.letsrollforums.com/forum/forum/the-last-american-forum/government-media-corporate-hoaxes/29174-do-nuclear-weapons-exist-are-they-also-a-hoax/page2
Hiroshima's population reached a peak of 381.000 citizens before the war, but just before the attack rapidly went down cause of a general evacuation ordered by the Japanese government, insomuch as the population at the 6th of august counted about 255.000 citizens. This amount is based on the data obtained by the provisions for the population (that were rationed)........
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UK Atomic Weapons Establishment AWE 06 Aug 2015 21:01 #70

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AWE The British?? ATOMIC WEAPONS ESTABLISHMENT



I think members of the British Electorate would be surprised and astonished to learn the true nature of the Atomic Weapons Establishment which is supposed to be part of our country's defence assets. Have a look at the site:

http://www.awe.co.uk/about-us/our-company/


Rather than being under the control of the MOD it is a private company which is part of, what has been described by others as, the "military industrial complex". As Nuclear Weapons are supposed to be Britain's last line of defence does anyone else find it strange that control of such an important asset should be entrusted to an outside agency, the constituent companies of which, are not even British? They are all American! For American read ZOG!

The extracts below both from the AWE site and Wiki are in italics.....my comments in normal text.
The Company
AWE employs around 4,500 staff and over 2,000 contractors, whose work covers a vast range of disciplines. We employ scientists, engineers, technicians, crafts-people and safety specialists, as well as business and administrative experts – many of whom are leaders in their field.
AWE is managed for the Ministry of Defence (MOD) through a contractor-operated arrangement. While our sites and facilities remain in government ownership, their management, day-to-day operations and the maintenance of Britain’s nuclear stockpile is contracted to a private company: AWE Management Limited (AWE ML).
AWE ML is formed of three equal shareholders – Serco, Lockheed Martin and Jacobs Engineering Group. AWE ML was awarded a 10-year contract to manage AWE in April 2000. This was extended in 2003 and is now set to run until March 2025.
AWE plc is the company that AWE ML has delegated to deliver the contract. It employs the workforce, maintains the nuclear site operating licenses and discharge authorisations, and its directors have total responsibility for management and operations.

The MOD, apart from being our customer, holds a golden share in AWE plc and monitors our operations and performance, and along with other regulators assures high safety and security standards.

Code for the MOD is our servant but, for PR reasons and to protect ourselves from scrutiny in the event of difficult questions we'll get our puppet MPs in Parliament to "stonewall" on the grounds that release of information could "compromise national security".

If you look up these companies in Wiki you'll find they are ALL AMERICAN COMPANIES!

From Wiki:

Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) is an American global aerospace, defense, security, and advanced technology company with worldwide interests. It was formed ...

Serco was founded in 1929 as a United Kingdom division of the Radio Corporation of America and initially provided services to the cinema industry.[2] It changed its name to Serco in 1987[2] and has been a London Stock Exchange listed company since 1988.[


Jacobs Engineering Group Inc., a publicly traded company with 60,000 employees and 2011 revenues of more than $10 billion, provides technical, professional, and construction services globally. Headquartered in Pasadena, California, it was founded in 1947 by Dr. Joseph J. Jacobs. Jacobs offers support to industrial, commercial, and government clients across multiple markets. Services include scientific and specialty consulting as well as all aspects of engineering, architecture, construction, and operations and maintenance. Annual revenues have made Jacobs Engineering a Fortune 500 Company.

On security grounds alone, if Nuclear weapons actually exist, would a Government in its right mind entrust these weapons to such an agency? If you search the site you will find that the main activity of AWE is to brainwash our children with the pseudo science of the Anthropogenic Global Warming $cam and release occasional comic Health and Safety reports to support the facade of "Fake" Nuclear Weapon maintainance. We the taxpayers are funding this $cam.

Incidently Lockheed Martin is the same NWO global company that collected all our identity details in the last British Census!

The Serco $cammers recently (2013) made the headlines. In addition to charging the British Taxpayer millions of pounds for the maintenance of non-existent "Fake" Nuclear weapons they were caught out ripping off the same taxpayers in connection with the electronic tagging of criminal offenders to the tune of £68,000,000!!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/dec/19/offender-electronic-tagging-serco-repay-68m-overcharging
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 07 Aug 2015 00:03 #71

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Serco - what a turn up for the book - there's v little they haven't got their evil fingers into in the UK . It's almost , if not literally the uk 'shadow zog'.front for all the privatizations , travel ,utility infrastructure and whole lot more - they're a massive zio black hand that so many social services have been contracted out to . No doubt they'll be in there somewhere with the unwinding of the NHS.
The lying msm have cranked up the 70th 'anniversary' of this hoax ,all in line with continued sanctions on Iran . Other than the mass radiation of japanese individually after the war , Fukishema has been the worst event for them, the north pacific ( above the equator) and the American - Canadian west coast.
It's a huge lie to get one's head around ( what hasn't been?) but the evidence is there .
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IMO there are two "staged history" possibilities here …..either


1)The Japanese Royal and Freemasonic Industrial Elite were secretly given the choice of supporting the A Bomb hoax and continuing in power on penalty of facing a Japanese "Nuremburg Trial". It was mainly the Japanese Military who "took the hit" in the War Crimes trials.


or….

2)The Japanese Elite together with Hitler, in full knowledge of their role, were co-opted by the Fake "Askanazi Jewish" Bankers to participate in and LOSE WWII to further the Banker's Zionist World Government agenda.




(...) The story told to us about the Manhattan Project can not be true, because it exploded over Japan in August 1945, 2 different atomic bombs: A uranium bomb and a plutonium bomb.

The Manhattan Project would therefore have developed 2 different types at the same time under extreme time pressure ... (...)




Full article by fatalist: fatalistnsuleaks.wordpress.com/2015/08/04/das-zdf-tastet-sich-zur-deutschen-atombombe-auf-hiroshima-vor/

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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 07 Aug 2015 21:18 #73

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 10 Aug 2015 22:20 #74

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The following frames are extracted from OFFICIAL NUCLEAR TEST FILM #11 on YouTube's talkingstick.tv channel at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC5l3s1wcuw&index=7&list=PLEFFE6316B694B346




The portion of the video I'm highlighting is alleged to be the film record of a battalion of US soldiers witnessing the explosion of an air dropped nuclear weapon.



Frame above at 42:45 just before the explosion.



A couple of frames later we see a semi-circular anomaly which on subsequent frames changes to a complete "white out". THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO FLASH IN THE DISTANCE TO CAUSE THIS ANOMALY!



At 42:54 the "white out" begins to clear, the soldiers stand up in their trenches and we see the mushroom appear. Look at the bright top of the "mushroom". It's rectangular! This is a tell tale sign of the Hollywood special effects technique of "back projection" The vista is, in fact, a film of a small scale pyrotechnic firework with a suitable desert backdrop "back projected" onto a screen with a rectangular spotlight added to increase the brightness. The near field sand bagged trenches with the soldier actors are filmed separately and added to the vista using what is termed the "matt technique".



At 42:58 we see the fake mushroom in its full glory.



At 43:02 we see the soldier "actors" hyping up their fear and awe of the fake nuke. Note their brightly polished helmets. What happens next should take the shine off them...... but doesn't....



At 43:06 we see the start of a pathetic attempt to fake the approaching blast wave. Excuse me Mr Goldwyn and Mr Mayer..WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE MUSHROOM CLOUD?....IT SEEMS TO HAVE DISAPPEARED!!!...:pmsl:



At 43:08 the fake blast wave dust storm reaches the standing soldier actors. THE MUSHROOM CLOUD IS STILL MISSING!!!



..and at 43:10 they get enveloped in dust.



....and at 43:12, as if by magic, THE MISSING MUSHROOM CLOUD REAPPEARS!!!

I've heard of magic mushrooms but this is ridiculous!!!.... :larf:



And as the soldier actor, at 43:18, fakes his scripted emotional response to the FAKE NUCLEAR WEAPON TEST we are left to ponder the really important question of why his helmet is bright and shiny when it should be covered in dust....:pmsl:

To those who pour scorn on the "Nukes are a Hoax" proposition please explain the following:

1) The semi-circular anomaly before the "white out" when there is no flash in the distance to cause it.

2) Explain the Physics behind the disappearance of the Mushroom cloud during the passage of the shockwave from the point of detonation to the soldier actors in their trenches.

3) Explain the Physics behind it's re-appearance a few seconds later.

Alternatively admit the truth which is obvious to everyone....The Declassified Nuclear Test Films were faked by the US Government (ZOG).

I initialy posted this frame grab analysis on the Nuke Lies Forum (later resurrected at biglies.org) and later on the DIF.
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People may ask "How easy is it to produce fake nuclear explosion films?"
The anwer is it's very easy. Just film a suitable small scale conventional chemical "pyrotechnic" reaction with a high speed camera against an appropriate background and slow the projection frame rate down to produce a convincing "fake" Nuke. You don't actually need an "explosion" as such. Just compare the effect produced in the above video (Aluminium Alkyl sprayed with water) with the official US Nuclear test films on YouTube's talkingsticktv channel. BTW "talkingstick" is code for Hollywood.
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The following is a "condensed version" of a couple of posts I made on the DIF Fake Nukes thread with some added info on the unreliability of the drones.

DIF POST 860
Heres another video viewable on the talkingstick.tv channel
US Declassified Nuclear Test Film #17,


It's listed as Operation Teapot, Military Effects Studies - 1954 - 30:20 - Color - Operation Teapot consisted of 14 "fake" nuclear tests detonated from February 18 to May 15, 1955.
The title "Operation Teapot" is another Pisstake mocking your guillibility. Nukes don't work, the tests were faked as was the "proof" they present here.
Russell's Teapot or the Celestial Teapot was an analogy devised by the philosopher Bertrand Russell intended to refute the idea that the burden of proof lies upon the skeptic to disprove the claims of religions .

In this film they try to convince you three F80 fighters were converted to pilotless drones which were flown over the "fake" nuke explosion at varying heights by accompanying "guide" aircraft. Early in the sequence you are shown a clip of "instrument pods" allegedly being blown off the lower drone by the blast.

The film actually shows a normal piloted F80 jettisoning it's long range fuel tanks.

They then show an actor approaching some "fake wreckage" probably lifted onto the mountain by helicopter. We are then told they managed to land the remaining two drones but only one of them at the airfield they took off from. We are told the drone's "blast damaged" front landing gear failed at the end of the runway. The landing sequence is hilarious....Enjoy! .



At 24:15 we see the "fake drone" (pilot in cockpit) touching down...



...and at 24:24 it comes to rest with a "faked" collapsed front landing wheel....lol

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Originally Posted by ranb
So it is against the law or something to use alternate footage in what appears to be a training video and not a documentary?
So you say the wreckage of the lowest drone is fake why? Why can’t it be real?
They say the second drone landed on the emergency strip and the top drone landed at Indian Springs where it sustained damaged nose gear. The drone they show landing is not identified as either the middle or top drone. It may be the middle drone as the top drone is identified as having a damaged nose wheel.
So why is this stuff fake again?
Ranb

It's not a training video. It's a propaganda film, full of lies and fakery, to brainwash people with the fear of non-existent nuclear weapons.
The wreckage is faked because aircraft cannot receive blast damage from weapons that don't exist. The sequence starting at 22:47 shows a normal piloted F80 jettisoning it's long range fuel tanks. The concept of guided "drones" in the early 50's is also extremely suspect as the technology was new and is on record as being totally unreliable. The Lockheed Shooting Star F-80A "alleged" drones in the propaganda films were IMO flown by pilots in the cockpit. The F-80A drone "conveniently" had this facility. (see sources for this info at the end of this post)

Here is the video commentary relevant to the 3 drones quoted verbatum:
1) "The wing tip instrument pods of the bottom drone are blown off and drop in an arc to the ground"
2) "The bottom drone,en route to the emergency landing strip after the burst, crashed because of lack of control before landing could be accomplished."
3) "The middle drone was landed successfully on the dry lake emergency strip....."
4) .......while the top aircraft was brought back to Indian Springs. THERE THE NOSE WHEEL COLLAPSED AND THE PILE UP OCCURED AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY."

Do you agree with that Ranb? So they are telling us the drone that landed at Indian Springs Airforce Base is the top drone and is the one that sustained the collapsed landing gear.

After dealing with jon galt, flyermay and truegroups comments I will go on to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that the F80 with the number QF-077 has to be the one they say LANDED AT INDIAN SPRINGS AIRFORCE BASE. In my opinion the whole video is a Fairy Tale.

Originally Posted by jon galt
are you implying them to be the same plane? in both photos the back ground is clearly different. as are the actual planes. whats the "oops'' suppose to imply?

You are well aware of what I am implying. The problem you have is that I can prove it. The "background" is crucial but not in the way you are looking at it. Read on.....lol

Originally Posted by flyermay
He claims it's a hoax because in the first footage it has one number, and in the second another number... but if you watch the video you will see that there were in fact 3 drone planes, one crashed, the other landed (picture 1), and the other had a problem with the landing gear (picture 3).

Correct! .......you're almost there!....

Originally Posted by truegroup
You didn't acknowledge how your "OOOPS" conclusion on 2 of the 3 drones was just two different planes as the film says. Care to?

When you read on a little further and find your comment comes back to bite you in the ar$e would you care to retract it?........

@Ranb
OK. Enough hilarity......Now for the proof.

I simply took the sequence from 24:02 to 24:21 and grabbed about 30 sequential frames, imported them into AutoCad and overlaid them in a line making sure identical points of the background hill profile are coincident in sequential frames. I ended up with an accurate panoramic view of the background hills. Those interested can verify for themselves the aircraft number is QF-077 by stopping the video at 24:15.

I then craftily snuck into the US Airforce Base at Indian Springs Nevada......:pmsl: (Via GOOGLE EARTH) and, using the "tour" pan function, "printscreened" a 360 degree pan into Autocad above the line of the F80 sequence. (Screenshot below)



Lo and Behold the hill profile in the QF-077 F80 landing sequence matches exactly a section of the hill profile surrounding the Indian Springs Airfield! Fancy that!......

Ergo the drone numbered QF-077 should be the one with the collapsed landing wheel. The video is faked along with all the rest of them.

I'll now leave Ranb and his team to Bull$hit their way out of this^....lol

Additional info supporting F80 drone's unreliability:
Lockheed QF-80
Sperry Gyroscope began converting eight F-80s to QF-80 drone configuration in 1951 under a project known as Bad Boy. The armament was all removed, and radio control equipment was installed. The pilot's controls were retained, which made it possible for the drone to be operated either manned or unmanned. ..............Many QF-80s were operated as pilot less drones to collect radioactive samples from mushroom clouds during nuclear tests.

Source for above quote:
http://www.456fis.org/F-80_SHOOTING_STAR.htm

The B-17 drones were employed in a similar manner in Operation Sandstone in 1947, and in Operation Greenhouse in 1951. In this latter test, also several Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star jets were used, modified into drones by Sperry Corporation (F-80A); however, the complex system resulted in a very high accident rate.
Source for above Wiki info illustrating high unreliability of the drone technology of the time.....scroll down to Nuclear Tests section:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicles#Nuclear_tests

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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 13 Aug 2015 13:46 #77

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Sez the dishonest poster^ above (post# 106) who dismisses the mountain of credible evidence of fakery in the Official Nuke films footage as "a turd in the punchbowl".....:pmsl:


What exactly does fakery of footage prove about the existence of working nukes, exodin, except
that the footage is faked - if it is faked?


First question must be: Who created the "credible evidence" ? :cool2:


"credible evidence" :chuckle: "BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH"

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As I had to realise lately

Nuclear Weapons Are A Hoax theory goes together well with Flat Earth theory

www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/02/nuclear-weapons-do-not-exist.html

www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/02/flat-earth-curvature.html



If TZ did not exist, I would still believe, like in the dif pit, that rodin/exorcist-kaito are credible researchers.
Thanks to this place I had to get to know the character, too, which to me says even more, than the "credible
evidence"
presented.

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No, I do no longer believe that nuclear bombs are a Jewish hoax, thanks to you!
But honestly, I would not exclude the possibility completely.
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US Military an 'Insurmountable Obstacle to a Nuclear-Free World

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An American nuclear missile facility in Montana: "This country would enjoy total military supremacy if nuclear weapons were abolished."

In a SPIEGEL interview, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev discusses morals and politics in the nuclear age, the crisis in Russian-American relations and his fear that an atomic weapon will some day be used.

    

SPIEGEL: Mikhail Sergeyevich, during your inaugural speech as general secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in March 1985, you warned of nuclear war and called for the "complete destruction of nuclear weapons and a permanent ban on them." Did you mean that seriously?

Gorbachev: The discussion about disarmament had already been going on for too long -- far too long. I wanted to finally see words followed by action because the arms race was not only continuing, it was growing ever more dangerousin terms of the number of weapons and their destructive capacity. There were tens of thousands of nuclear warheads on different delivery systems like aircraft, missiles and submarines.

SPIEGEL: Did you feel the Soviet Union was under threat during the 1980s by the nuclear weapons of NATO member states?

Gorbachev: The situation was that nuclear missiles were being stationed closer and closer to our adversary's borders. They were getting increasingly precise and they were also being aimed at decision-making centers. There were very concrete plans for the use of these weapons. Nuclear war had become conceivable. And even a technical error could have caused it to happen. At the same time, disarmament talks were not getting anywhere. In Geneva, diplomats pored over mountains of paper, drank wine, and even harder stuff, by the liter. And it was all for nothing.

SPIEGEL: At a meeting of the Warsaw Pact nations in 1986, you declared that the military doctrine of the Soviet Union was no longer to plan for the coming war, but rather to seek to prevent military confrontation with the West. What was the reason behind the shift in strategy?

Gorbachev: It was clear to me that relations with America and the West would be a lasting dead end without atomic disarmament, with mutual distrust and growing hostility. That is why nuclear disarmament was the highest priority for Soviet foreign policy.

SPIEGEL: Did you not also push disarmament forward because of the financial and economic troubles facing the Soviet Union in the 1980s?

Gorbachev: Of course we perceived just how great a burden the arms race was on our economy. That did indeed play a role. It was clear to us that atomic confrontation threatened not only our people but also all of humanity. We knew only too well the weapons being discussed, their destructive force and the consequences. The nuclear catastrophe at Chernobyl provided us with a rather precise idea of what the consequences of a nuclear war would be. Decisive for us were thus political and ethical considerations, not economic ones.

SPIEGEL: What was your experience with US President Ronald Reagan, who many saw as a driving force in the Cold War?

Gorbachev: Reagan acted out of honest conviction and genuinely rejected nuclear weapons. Already during my first meeting with him in November of 1985, we were able to make the most important determination: "Nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought." This sentence combined morals and politics -- two things many consider to be irreconcilable. Unfortunately, the US has since forgotten the second important point in our joint statement -- according to which neither America nor we will seek to achieve military superiority.

SPIEGEL: Are you disappointed in the Americans?

Gorbachev: So many decades pass, but unfortunately some things do not change. Already back in the 1950s, President Dwight D. Eisenhower stated the problem by its name. The power of the military-industrial complex continued to be enormous under Reagan and his successor George Bush. Former US Secretary of State George Shultz told me a few years ago that only a conservative president like Reagan could have been in a position to get the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty through the Senate. Let's not forget that the the "Zero Option" that Reagan himself proposed (eds. note: the proposal to remove all Soviet and American intermediate-range nuclear missles from Europe) had many opponents in the West. They considered it to be a propaganda stunt and they wanted to thwart Reagan's policies. After the Reykjavik summit in 1986 (eds. note: the subject of the summit between Reagan and Gorbachev was nuclear disarmament), Margaret Thatcher declared: We won't be able to handle a second Reykjavik.

SPIEGEL: Did you really believe at the time that you could achieve a world free of nuclear weapons?

Gorbachev: We not only proclaimed a nuclear weapons free world as a major goal -- we also named concrete interim goals. In addition, we aspired to the destruction of chemical weapons and are now close to achieving that goal. Limiting conventional weapons was also on our agenda. That was all inextricably linked to a normalization of our relations. We wanted to move from confrontation to cooperation. We achieved a lot, which shows that my approach was completely realistic.

SPIEGEL: Many accused you of using your demand as a tactic to present the Soviet Union as a peace-loving country.

Gorbachev: No, there was no propaganda at play and it was not tactical. It was important to get away from the nuclear abyss our countries were marching toward when they stationed hundreds of intermediate-range nuclear missiles in Europe.

SPIEGEL: Why were the negotiations over intercontinental ballistic missiles so much tougher than those over intermediate-range missiles?

Gorbachev: In Reykjavik, Iceland, in October 1986, Reagan and I not only established the framework for eliminating intermediate-range missiles, but also for halving the number of intercontinental missiles. But Reagan was up against strong resistance from the hawks in the US administration. This continued under Bush, so, in the end, we only finally signed the treaty in summer 1991. With the strategic long-range weapons there were also technical questions. And then we also had the problem with the missile defense.

SPIEGEL: You were unable to convince Reagan to abandon his SDI project, which aimed to create a defensive shield against nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. Did that upset you?

Gorbachev: Reagan wanted it no matter what. That's why in Reykjavik we weren't able to turn our agreements on intercontinental missiles and intermediate-range missiles into treaties. In order to break the impasse, we offered the Americans concessions and uncoupled the negotiating package. We agreed on a separate treaty addressing the intermediate-range missiles. Reagan and I signed it in Washington in December 1987.

SPIEGEL: The stationing of American intermediate-range missiles led to mass demonstrations by the peace movement in Germany …

Gorbachev: … and Helmut Kohl then played a very positive role in the establishment of the treaty with the elimination of the Pershing 1A missiles.

SPIEGEL: The nuclear warhead belonged to the Americans, but the missiles were German. Kohl declared that the missiles could be destroyed if the US and Russia came to an agreement on the destruction of the intermediate-range missiles.

Gorbachev: If Kohl had not dispensed with them, we would not have signed.

SPIEGEL: Was there actually resistance to your disarmament policies within the Soviet ruling elite?

Gorbachev: Every member of the leadership at the time understood the importance of disarmament. All the leading politicians had experience and a sober view of things. Just think about Foreign Minister Andrei Gromkyo …

SPIEGEL: … who had the nickname "Mr. Nyet" in the West because of his hardline negotiating tactics …

Gorbachev: … but like all the others, he understood how dangerous the arms race was. At the top, we were united at the time about ending it.

SPIEGEL: How did disarmament treaties materialize under your leadership?

Gorbachev: The Soviet Union had a strict and clear system for the preparation of politburo decisions. They happened through the so-called Five, a committee made up of representatives from relevant agencies and experts. We took into consideration the positions of our negotiating partners without jeopardizing the Soviet Union's state security. The politburo weighed proposals and then issued directives to our negotiation delegations and also to me, the general secretary and later president, for summit meetings. That happened prior to Reykjavik in 1986, Washington in 1987 and other meetings. The politburo, in turn, fell back on proposals from experts, which it then reviewed and discussed.

SPIEGEL: Can the goal of a nuclear free world still be achieved today?

Gorbachev: It is the correct goal in any case. Nuclear weapons are unacceptable. The fact that they can wipe out the entirety of civilization makes them particularly inhumane. Weapons like this have never existed before in history and they cannot be allowed to exist. If we do not get rid of them, sooner or later they will be used.

SPIEGEL: In recent years, a number of new nuclear powers have emerged.

Gorbachev: That's why we should not forget that the elimination of nuclear weapons is the obligation of every country that signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Though America and Russia have by far the largest arsenals at their disposal.

SPIEGEL: What do you think of the oft-cited theory that mutually assured destruction prevents nuclear wars?

Gorbachev: There's a dangerous logic in that. Here's another question: If five or 10 countries are allowed to have nuclear weapons, then why can't 20 or 30? Today, a few dozen countries have the technical prerequisites to build nuclear weapons. The alternative is clear: Either we move toward a nuclear-free world or we have to accept that nuclear weapons will continue to spread, step by step, across the globe. And can we really imagine a world without nuclear weapons if a single country amasses so many conventional weapons that its military budget nearly tops that of all other countries combined? This country would enjoy total military supremacy if nuclear weapons were abolished.

SPIEGEL: You're talking about the US?

Gorbachev: You said it. It is an insurmountable obstacle on the road to a nuclear-free world. That's why we have to put demilitarization back on the agenda of international politics. This includes a reduction of military budgets, a moratorium on the development of new types of weapons and a prohibition on militarizing space. Otherwise, talks toward a nuclear-free world will be little more than empty words. The world would then become less safe, more unstable and unpredictable. Everyone will lose, including those now seeking to dominate the world.

SPIEGEL: Is there a risk of war between Russia and the West over the crisis in Ukraine?

Gorbachev: We have reached a crossroads in relations between America and Russia. Many are already talking about a new Cold War. Talks between both powers over important global problems have practically been put on ice. That includes the question of nuclear disarmament. Trust, the very capital we worked so hard to build, has been destroyed.

SPIEGEL: Do you believe there is a danger of nuclear war?

Gorbachev: I'm very worried. The current state of things is scary. The nuclear powers still have thousands of nuclear warheads. Nuclear weapons are still stationed in Europe. The pace of reducing stockpiles has slowed considerably. We are witnessing the beginning of a new arms race. The militarization of space is a real danger. The danger of nuclear proliferation is greater than ever before. The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty has not entered into force, primarily because the Americans did not ratify it. This would have been extremely important.

SPIEGEL: Do you think Russia will once again begin to use its nuclear capablities as a bargaining chip in international relations?

Gorbachev: We have to view everything in context. Unfortunately, formulations have reappeared in the nuclear powers' military doctrines that represent a relapse to the language that predated the Soviet-American declaration of 1985. We need a new declaration, probably from the United Nations Security Council, that reasserts nuclear war as inadmissible -- it knows no winners.

SPIEGEL: Isn't a world without nuclear weapons just a nice dream?

Gorbachev: No matter how difficult the situation is, we must not fall into resignation or panic. In the mid-1980s, there was no shortage of people who thought the train to atomic hell was unstoppable. But then we achieved a lot in very short space of time. Thousands of nuclear warheads were destroyed and several types of nuclear weapons, such as intermediate-range missiles, were disposed of. We can be proud of that. We accomplished all that together. It should be a lesson for today's leaders: for Obama, Putin and Merkel.

SPIEGEL: Mr. Gorbachev, we thank you for this interview.
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 16 Aug 2015 01:36 #79

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Rocket powered missiles exist but Nuclear Weapons are a Hoax. Frame by frame analysis of the Test films shows beyond a shadow of doubt they were faked but you avoid addressing this evidence like the plague. Why are you doing this?.......Please suggest a reason why they would fake them.
There is only one credible answer to this question. :chuckle:
NUKES ARE A HOAX
TRUTH IS HATE FOR THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH
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Nuclear Bombs are a Jewish Hoax like everything else 16 Aug 2015 01:54 #80

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I live in the South Pacific and completely disagree with you. As do the people of French Polynesia.

Thyroid cancer in French Polynesia between 1985 and 1995: influence of atmospheric nuclear bomb tests performed at Mururoa and Fangataufa between 1966 and 1974.

de Vathaire F1, Le Vu B, Vathaire CC.

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BACKGROUND:

Between 1966 and 1974, France performed 41 atmospheric nuclear weapon tests in the Mururoa and Fangataufa atolls in French Polynesia.

METHODS:

We performed a geographic analysis of thyroid cancer incidence, using data from the cancer registry of French Polynesia, medical evacuation files, insurance records and hospital and pathology laboratory files.

RESULTS:

A total of 153 thyroid cancers were diagnosed between 1985 and 1995 in the population born before 1976 and residing in French Polynesia. The incidence of thyroid cancer was 2-3 times larger in French Polynesia than in Maoris of New Zealand and Hawaiians of Hawaii. Based on few cases, a nonsignificant (p = 0.1) increase with decreasing distance between Mururoa and the birth place was observed in women born between 1950 and 1975 for thyroid cancer.

CONCLUSION:

Because the difference between Polynesian and reference populations was not larger for Polynesians who were children during the tests than for Polynesians born earlier; as would be expected in the case of radioiodine contamination, the high thyroid cancer rates in French Polynesia could hardly be attributed to radioiodine fallout. Nevertheless, a surveillance of the population born close to Mururoa is necessary to confirm or deny the existence of a higher risk of thyroid cancer in this population.
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Britain downplayed State terrorism by the French Government blowing up the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland Harbour in the 1980s, killing Greenpeace activists about to sail to French Polynesia to protest against French nuclear testing.
Margaret Thatcher refused to sanction official criticism of the French over the blowing up of the British-registered Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior even after Paris had admitted being behind the bombing, newly released documents show.

The then prime minister sided with the foreign secretary, Geoffrey Howe, who did not want to "rub salt in French wounds", despite calls from cabinet colleagues who thought the government should take a firmer line.

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The then transport secretary, Nicholas Ridley, described the incident as "an outrageous act of terrorism".

The papers also show that the Thatcher government refused to hold an inquiry into the sinking, as it had the power to do, but kept this decision secret until the public outcry had faded.

French secret agents blew up the Rainbow Warrior to prevent Greenpeace protesting against the testing of nuclear weapons at Mururoa in the South Pacific.

The bombing of the ship when it was moored in Auckland harbour, New Zealand, in July 1985 killed one of the crew and brought protests from around the world
www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/aug/23/uk.freedomofinformation

NZ rejected the ANZUS Treaty and withdrew from it because of nuclear testing.

Basic logic:

1. If men landed on the moon, why have they not been back?
2. If the holocaust is true why are there laws in place across Europe to criminalize people questioning it?
3. If nukes are a hoax why did Britain and France test them on far flung colonies and not on home soil?
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