Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC: The Moon is Flat

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 12:29 #21

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 12:31 #22

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
I noticed that stars in the sky were fading, and as they faded my balls disappeared..... :ponda:

To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Last Edit: 22 Apr 2016 12:33 by rodin.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 12:40 #23

  • ragnarok
  • ragnarok's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7808
  • Likes received: 714
Keep your greedy eyes off it.

Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 16:38 #24

  • bd
  • bd's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Silver Member
  • bikerdruid
  • Posts: 3658
  • Likes received: 471
some of the inane shit here never ceases to amaze.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 16:55 #25

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
bd wrote:
some of the inane shit here never ceases to amaze.

You are aware this thread is ironic?
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 22 Apr 2016 21:44 #26

  • annabelle
  • annabelle's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Silver Member
  • Posts: 2776
  • Likes received: 1824
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 01:42 #27

  • Flare
  • Flare's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 17469
  • Likes received: 6326
Some crazy facts about the Moon:



- Did you know the moon rotates exactly around it's axis, so that it always faces the earth with exactly the same side, while the earth also rotates around it's axis?

- Did you know the moon is positioned on exactly the correct distance of the earth, so it has just about the same size as the sun? And so it exactly positions itself in front of the sun so we have a solar eclipse?



...however, would the moon be positioned a bit closer or further of the earth, then we wouldn't have a solar eclipse as we exactly get to see? For if the moon would be positioned closer, we totally wouldn't get to see the sun anymore and if it would be positioned further, we wouldn't be seeing a solar eclipse at all. It positions itself exactly in front of the sun from our/earth perspective.


- Besides that, the moon is covered with silicium-oxide, which makes it look like the moon radiates light once the the sun reflects on it. Would it be just consist of rock, then we wouldn't see the moon 'shine'.



- And besides that, the moon is approx. 400 x smaller then the sun, but it is also positioned approx. 400x closer to the sun. Therefore it looks like the sun and the moon are the same size viewed from earth perspective.

- And last but not least; the female period is (mostly) the same amount of days as the full moon eclipse:



Crazy ain't it?
"Freedom is not a measure of good, but good is the measure of freedom." - Bishop Williamson


ww2truth.com/
Last Edit: 13 May 2016 01:49 by Flare.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 03:12 #28

  • Gaia
  • Gaia's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7675
  • Likes received: 1668
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

The Nazi Gnome is talking like a 10-year old "wise" guy (Dennis is his name probably). :roll:

The 400 point is the same as point 2, not a new point.

The Moon is not always "as big as the Sun" yet varies over time. That's why not all solar eclipses are the same.

The sidereal month and sinodic month (so lunar cycles) are both imperfect in the sense that they do not commit to exact days (so solar cycles) (27.321661 and 29.530587 days respectively) nor are equal to each other.

That the lunar cycle has influence on the menstrual periods is also not "crazy" when you think about her size and proximity to Earth. Tides are also affected by her.

"The Moon is made from silicium oxide, not rock?? Where did you get that bullshit from, apart from that amateur site?
We don't know for sure what the Moon is exactly made of as nobody has been there nor will ever come there, but lunar meteorites do give us clues.

SiO2 is in pure form quartz, the most common of surface silicates on Earth but in other forms it's the basis building component for many minerals; feldspars, plagioclases, amphiboles, olivine and many many many more, list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_minerals

The silicate minerals are rock-forming minerals, constituting approximately 90 percent of the crust of the Earth

Those minerals form rocks, so the statement becomes as meaningless bullcrap as saying "did you know that a forest is not made of trees, yet of wood?".

Study some basic geology (and this is all really wiki-basic), then you wouldn't come across as a fool like now. :facepalm:
The Only Limit is Your Own Imagination
A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale - Gaia
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
Last Edit: 13 May 2016 03:15 by Gaia.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 06:26 #29

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
The really odd coincidence is the size issue. Odds against are big. All the rest have prosaic causes
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 07:02 #30

  • Gaia
  • Gaia's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7675
  • Likes received: 1668
rodin wrote:
The really odd coincidence is the size issue. Odds against are big. All the rest have prosaic causes

The apparent size can well be coincidence, can't it? Or are you of the religious type that sees "a sign" in the similar apparent size of the Moon and the Sun?

My sister Selene surely is a magical celestial body, but her apparent size shouldn't be much of debate?
The Only Limit is Your Own Imagination
A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale - Gaia
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 08:48 #31

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
Gaia wrote:
rodin wrote:
The really odd coincidence is the size issue. Odds against are big. All the rest have prosaic causes

The apparent size can well be coincidence, can't it? Or are you of the religious type that sees "a sign" in the similar apparent size of the Moon and the Sun?

My sister Selene surely is a magical celestial body, but her apparent size shouldn't be much of debate?
Why is the Moon exactly the same apparent size from Earth as the Sun? Surely this cannot be just coincidence; the odds against such a perfect match are enormous.

www.astronomy.com/magazine/ask-astro/2000/10/why-is-the-moon-exactly-the-same-apparent-size-from-earth-as-the-sun-surely-this-cannot-be-just-coinciden...t-match-are-enormous
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 09:18 #32

  • Gaia
  • Gaia's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7675
  • Likes received: 1668
rodin wrote:
Gaia wrote:
rodin wrote:
The really odd coincidence is the size issue. Odds against are big. All the rest have prosaic causes

The apparent size can well be coincidence, can't it? Or are you of the religious type that sees "a sign" in the similar apparent size of the Moon and the Sun?

My sister Selene surely is a magical celestial body, but her apparent size shouldn't be much of debate?
Why is the Moon exactly the same apparent size from Earth as the Sun? Surely this cannot be just coincidence; the odds against such a perfect match are enormous.

www.astronomy.com/magazine/ask-astro/2000/10/why-is-the-moon-exactly-the-same-apparent-size-from-earth-as-the-sun-surely-this-cannot-be-just-coinciden...t-match-are-enormous

Why is the Moon exactly the same apparent size from Earth as the Sun?

Not true. Not "exactly the same" apparent size

Indeed, the odds against it are enormous.

As compared to what? How are those "odds" determined? No information

highly improbable coincidences

Again, how is the "high improbabilty" calculated? Which benchmarks are used?

Who is this "Robert Naeye"?
Robert Naeye spent several stints at Sky & Telescope, first as an intern and budding journalist, then as senior editor, before returning as editor in chief. It was during his senior editor years (2006 – 2007) that he blogged regularly for the site. With diverse interests in astronomy, his coverage never failed to stimulate debate. He shared his strong and well-formed opinions

www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-blogs/robert-naeye-world-of-astronomy/
Through the Eyes of Hubble: The Birth, Life, and Violent Death of Stars
By Robert Naeye '85
Kalmbach Books, 1998

Using photos taken by the Hubble """"Space"""" Telescope and computer-generated illustrations :chuckle: , Naeye's user-friendly text explains the new in-sights Hubble has helped generate about the universe. Details of the life cycles of stars and nebulae are illustrated in this highly acclaimed work. The London Times wrote that Through the Eyes of Hubble "gives us both the stunning pictures and a highly readable account of... the scientific research crucial to our understanding of the origins and future of the universe." Naeye lives and writes in Waukesha, Wisconsin, where he is associate editor of Astronomy magazine.

www.oberlin.edu/alummag/oampast/oam_spring98/Alum_n_n/issued.html

Naeye is:
- a writer
- an editor
- not possessing any relevant education
- a promoter of NASA lies
- promoted and "acclaimed" by the spooks and perpetraitors of lies of astronomical proportions

So this "highly improbable coincidence" should be taken with some megatons of salt. :yerright:
The Only Limit is Your Own Imagination
A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale - Gaia
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 09:47 #33

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
Moon at apogee and perigee



How many OTHER diameters could our moon be? :ponda:

Obviously solar eclipes occur on outer planets with moons, but are any of these CORONAL?

I could not find an immediate answer

I guess can be worked out.. fancy a go? :D

www.windows2universe.org/our_solar_system/moons_table.html
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 13:35 #34

  • GMP
  • GMP's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Silver Member
  • Posts: 3506
  • Likes received: 858
Flat for sure AND prone to expansion or contraction.
Depending on phase.
:)
On the other hand it could just be 'moon' shaped.
Maybe there's a clue in the name.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 15:29 #35

  • Gaia
  • Gaia's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7675
  • Likes received: 1668
rodin wrote:
Moon at apogee and perigee



How many OTHER diameters could our moon be? :ponda:

The Moon could have been (apparent size):
1 - much bigger than the Sun
2 - more or less same size as the Sun (with some range x)
3 - much smaller than the Sun

So if you review it like this the "improbable 'coincidence'" becomes 0.33, not spectacular.

If you review it in more detail relatively the change in size of the Moon between apogee and perigee as you showed becomes more relevant and we see that some eclipses are coronal and some are total. Then that "specialty" is also lost; if it would be "a perfect match, improbable coincidence" they either would be exactly same apparent size (so always showing same type of eclipse) or the Moon would be a little farther away/smaller to always have coronal eclipses. That we have two types of eclipses makes it less "special".
Obviously solar eclipes occur on outer planets with moons, but are any of these CORONAL?

I could not find an immediate answer

I guess can be worked out.. fancy a go? :D

www.windows2universe.org/our_solar_system/moons_table.html
None of them of course. The closer planets have no moons and would need a much bigger moon to produce coronal eclipses as they are much closer to the Sun and the more outer planets have tiny moons (Mars) or are much farther away so Titan would not produce a coronal eclipse.

The ecliptic of the Moon and the Sun are also not the same. If it were, at every New Moon there would be a solar eclipse and at every Full Moon a lunar eclipse.

This looking for "special", "crazy" and "unique" things is typical cherry picking.
GMP wrote:
Flat for sure

Flat can refer to:
1 - planar, leveled; Denmark or Holland
2 - a term for a dish; circle in 2D

1 would be impossible as you can clearly observe the crater depths at the terminator line when looking at the Moon (best with a small telescope)
2 is impossible as the Moon always looks like a circle, from wherever you are on Earth at the same moment. Only a sphere can produce that; any other shape would cause it to apparently deform. Hence even "Flat Earth"ers need a spherical Sun and Moon, which makes their "model" inconsistent. The Moon phases don't change that effect; only the lighting, but the overall shape is always a circle (2D), from different locations seen must mean it's a sphere (3D).
The Only Limit is Your Own Imagination
A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale - Gaia
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
Last Edit: 13 May 2016 15:38 by Gaia.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 16:07 #36

  • Exorcist
  • Exorcist's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 1779
  • Likes received: 653
Gaia wrote:
GMP wrote:
Flat for sure

Flat can refer to:
1 - planar, leveled; Denmark or Holland
2 - a term for a dish; circle in 2D




You forgot to mention "Flat" can also refer to living accomodation!
This is GMP's high rise holiday apartment @ Vancouver Island in Canada.

It's 100% "Flat"....lol

:joker:
NUKES ARE A HOAX
TRUTH IS HATE FOR THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH
Meet the New Boss.....Same as the Old Boss

http://www.stopthecrime.net/Henry-Makow---Illuminati----(2008).PDF
(((ROCCO))) is a Sayanim Troll
(((HotRod))) is a (((ROCCO))) sock account
MrAnderson is a Bollock….lmao
Last Edit: 13 May 2016 16:11 by Exorcist.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.
User(s) who Liked this post: Gaia

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 16:17 #37

  • GMP
  • GMP's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Silver Member
  • Posts: 3506
  • Likes received: 858
Bleddy good spot for birdwatching.
I'd give it a go.
I do love a bit of birding.
.........
Seriously, the Moon!
FFS it's a moon-shaped moon, sorta ball shaped with wrinkles.
As any fule knoe.
:)
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 16:29 #38

  • Gaia
  • Gaia's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold Member
  • Posts: 7675
  • Likes received: 1668
GMP wrote:
Seriously, the Moon!
FFS it's a moon-shaped moon, sorta ball shaped with wrinkles.
As any fule knoe.
:)

Now that you are retired and like "co-operatives", have you thought about teaching some geography or physics to the younger generations? Your "shaped like a moon, sorta ball with wrinkles, any fule knoes" would be very good lesson! :hahano:
The Only Limit is Your Own Imagination
A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale - Gaia
"What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things."
- Vladimir Nabokov (1938)
"The silence of conspiracy. Slaughtered on the altar of apathy." - Lords of the New Church (1982)
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.
User(s) who Liked this post: GMP

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 16:39 #39

  • GMP
  • GMP's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Silver Member
  • Posts: 3506
  • Likes received: 858
',Gaia wrote:
GMP wrote:
Seriously, the Moon!
FFS it's a moon-shaped moon, sorta ball shaped with wrinkles.
As any fule knoe.
:)

Now that you are retired and like "co-operatives", have you thought about teaching some geography or physics to the younger generations? Your "shaped like a moon, sorta ball with wrinkles, any fule knoes" would be very good lesson! :hahano:

This week since Monday last up to yesterday tea time I had worked about 32 hours.
Took early retirement (HM nurse training inspectorate) in September 2014. Downsized to the seaside. Got totally bored totally fast so started a little business.
I own, rent out, clean and service 8 holiday chalets.
Totes busy from Easter to October, not so much in winter time.
Did a spot of teaching ( nursing) for a few years, enjoyed it but no ambitions EVER to do any more teaching.
Cleaning chalets is far more satisfying than attempting to impart knowledge to thirty tired student nurses imprisoned in a lecture theatre on a hot Friday afternoon.
:)
Last Edit: 13 May 2016 16:42 by GMP.
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.
User(s) who Liked this post: Gaia

The Moon is Flat 13 May 2016 16:44 #40

  • rodin
  • rodin's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Spam Killer
  • BELIEF IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH
  • Posts: 4862
  • Likes received: 1818
Haven't had a flat for a few years

Apart from when I hit that traffic island...
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
Only registered members can reply. Create an Account to join the discussion.

Related topics

Topic subjectRelevanceDate of latest post
Flat Earth7.04Tuesday, 23 July 2019
Flat Earth is the Most Important Truth6.89Saturday, 10 April 2021
Any Flat earthers here/globe deniers6.89Monday, 22 July 2019
Flat Earth Theory - FE Hypothesis6.89Wednesday, 08 August 2018
The Earth is flat and convex at the same time !6.89Friday, 19 September 2014
The Earth (not flat) is filled with precious people and enticing experiences...6.67Saturday, 03 December 2016
The Moon6.08Tuesday, 11 July 2017
Something moved on the Moon?6.01Tuesday, 09 July 2019
The Moon Illusion6.01Monday, 24 November 2014
American Moon6.01Saturday, 23 November 2019
Moderators: novum, rodin, Flare
Powered by Kunena Forum

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation $122 USD
4th January 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ
 

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.