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TOPIC: Freedom of Speech?

Freedom of Speech? 15 Jun 2016 14:10 #21

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Im wellaware1 of it too (see what i did there)

Ok ok, yes i took his comment as gospel, didnt check my facts etc etc, so sorry then. I apologise, seriously.

Youve cleared it up now.. rags comment does not equate to your words..i conceed that.

You still have to find out who sent him here right? .. maybe it is one of those cyber teams Hillary has working for her. :larf: (i bet lynn pays for it.. second thought.. bet the taxpayer pays for it, smart business people always use other peoples money)

And you still think amal is a man.
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Freedom of Speech? 15 Jun 2016 14:12 #22

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This was the last comment on the previous page:


PFIZIPFEI wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
novum wrote:
Frothy, at least rags asks questions or typically comments on the topic, or both. Some think its trolling, usually those are the people who dont like what he is saying or asking.

On the other hand, you spend an awful amount of time an energy thinking about what other members are doing.


One could deduce from this comment that you usually like what he is saying or asking.

How much time do you spend on spreading tales about what you think other people allegedly think?


novum wrote:
Why would you deduce such a thing.

Its like saying DG was an adolf booster because he defended your freedom of speech. He certainly wasnt.


Because it is the most stringent, most logic conclusion to be deduced from your words.

The most striking difference between ragnarok and mhs is that he was an infamous troll already in the dif pit for many years
and especially that - contrary to mhs - he is an ardent proponent of all things system and mainstream - while I am exactly the
opposite. This is why my opinion is litigable in many countries, suppressed not only in the dif pit while with his "opinion" exactly
the opposite is true.

DG was well aware of this fact - this is why he defended my right to free speech on TZ - while you are trying to equalise and negate reality.


Would you mind to respond to my previous comment on this thread instead of trying to divert to another subject:

truth-zone.net/forum/anthropology/60696-freedom-of-speech.html#217908



I accept your due appology.


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Freedom of Speech? 15 Jun 2016 14:14 #23

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ok, thankyou.

Now, do you accept that amal is a woman? :joker:
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Freedom of Speech? 15 Jun 2016 19:08 #24

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Inquisitor weekid reincarnate? :wissl: Anal's private parts should be discussed in the relevant thread only. Jmho.



PFIZIPFEI wrote:
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The most striking difference between ragnarok and mhs is that he was an infamous troll already in the dif pit for many years
and especially that - contrary to mhs - he is an ardent proponent of all things system and mainstream - while I am exactly the
opposite. This is why my opinion is litigable in many countries, suppressed not only in the dif pit while with his "opinion" exactly
the opposite is true.

DG was well aware of this fact - this is why he defended my right to free speech on TZ - while you are trying to equalise and negate reality.


Would you mind to respond to my previous comment on this thread instead of trying to divert to another subject:

truth-zone.net/forum/anthropology/60696-freedom-of-speech.html#217908
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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Freedom of Speech? 16 Jun 2016 08:49 #25

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Anal's private parts should be discussed in the relevant thread only. Jmho.
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Your repeated intentional mis-spelling is rather telling, despite your reluctance to admit what you really think.

Its no wonder you see hasbaras where there aint none, since you also see men where there aint none. :chuckle:
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Freedom of Speech? 19 Jun 2016 23:37 #26

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novum wrote:

Your repeated intentional mis-spelling is rather telling, despite your reluctance to admit what you really think.

Its no wonder you see hasbaras where there aint none, since you also see men where there aint none. :chuckle:


DG was a decent man, a gentleman in the truest sense of the word,
as you can see e.g. from page 1 of this thread.

Frog was the same and I very much appreciated his advice, which I am still trying
to internalise and implement to the best of my abilities.

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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Freedom of Speech? 20 Jun 2016 17:51 #27

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I guess that's no Xmas card for you this year, Nov.
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Freedom of Speech? 20 Jun 2016 19:42 #28

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She still might want to send me something for hanukkah. :cruiselarf:
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Freedom of Speech? 20 Jun 2016 22:34 #29

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We cannot have freedom of speech if we do not know all that there is to say.
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Freedom of Speech? No rules, no freedom of speech. 30 Aug 2016 22:11 #30

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No rules, no free speech.




Freedom of speech does not mean - figuratively - being allowed to speak while a mob is shouting you down.

Freedom of speech is directly related to social rules and values. If there are none it's anarchy.

Freedom of speech basically does not mean that you are allowed to express your opinion reasonably and in a low voice
in a crowd of intoxicated headbangers.

This is why freedom of speech is an illusion in the value vacuum of the licentious mind.

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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Freedom of Speech? 31 Aug 2016 15:26 #31

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In saying all that Pfizi - you were exercising your right to free speech.
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Freedom of Speech? 31 Aug 2016 15:29 #32

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Possibly wrote:
We cannot have freedom of speech if we do not know all that there is to say.
We all of us have limited understanding of lots of topics but that doesn't prevent us freely sharing ( by speech or other media) of our opinions on any topics that may interest or concern us.
We do here in Blighty anyway.
That said I can see that Pfizi in Germany may not have the same freedom of speech on some issues, such as the Nazis; that us Brits enjoy.
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Freedom of Speech? No rules, no freedom of speech. 02 Sep 2016 21:01 #33

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:

No rules, no free speech.




Freedom of speech does not mean - figuratively - being allowed to speak while a mob is shouting you down.

Freedom of speech is directly related to social rules and values. If there are none it's anarchy.

Freedom of speech basically does not mean that you are allowed to express your opinion reasonably and in a low voice
in a crowd of intoxicated headbangers.

This is why freedom of speech is an illusion in the value vacuum of the licentious mind.




Addendum:


Playing by the rules requires rules.

If freedom of speech is limited, you need to know the limits.

Everything else is subjected to pure www.dict.cc/?s=Willk%C3%BCr.




Reference: truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/63305-subjects-and-facts-which-i-don-t-dare-to-discuss-in-the-public-section.html?start=80#229642
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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Freedom of Speech? No rules, no freedom of speech. 03 Sep 2016 15:27 #34

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:

No rules, no free speech.




Freedom of speech does not mean - figuratively - being allowed to speak while a mob is shouting you down.

Freedom of speech is directly related to social rules and values. If there are none it's anarchy.

Freedom of speech basically does not mean that you are allowed to express your opinion reasonably and in a low voice
in a crowd of intoxicated headbangers.

This is why freedom of speech is an illusion in the value vacuum of the licentious mind.




Addendum:


Playing by the rules requires rules.

If freedom of speech is limited, you need to know the limits.

Everything else is subjected to pure www.dict.cc/?s=Willk%C3%BCr.




Reference: truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/63305-subjects-and-facts-which-i-don-t-dare-to-discuss-in-the-public-section.html?start=80#229642
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Rules are fine just as long as they are equitably applied.
Not sure that you were such a fair mod back when you had your own modding area Pfizi.
Doubt that some of us here on TZ would last very long if it was down to you to interpret and apply the modding 'rules' as you saw fit.
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Freedom of Speech? No rules, no freedom of speech. 04 Sep 2016 08:58 #35

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GMP wrote:
Rules are fine just as long as they are equitably applied.
Not sure that you were such a fair mod back when you had your own modding area Pfizi.
Doubt that some of us here on TZ would last very long if it was down to you to interpret and apply the modding 'rules' as you saw fit.
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I totally concur with your first sentence and logically this is the basic prerequisite
for any rules, no matter where they apply,
which renders just another of your typical commonplaces obsolete from my pov.


If you missed it, I still have my own tiny sub forum truth-zone.net/forum/my-zone-by-pfizipfei.html
and as you may have noticed I comment almost every post, which, from my pov, is off-topic
or otherwise inappropriate, with or without excerpting them. I haven't seen any other
mod here or elsewhere making every effort to explain the reasons.


What you imagine and think about me is your very own. No more, no less.
You could call this personal opinion, prejudice or character assassination.
Depends on the reader.


Btw, don't miss my latest contribution to your CULTURAL MARXISM thread.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66423-cultural-marxism-in-context.html

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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
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Freedom of Speech? No rules, no freedom of speech. 24 May 2017 11:46 #36

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"Mein Gehirn ist der Schlüssel zu meiner Freiheit.“

“My brain is the key to my freedom.”


- Harry Houdini born Erik Weisz


Btw:
Harry Houdini wurde 1874 als Sohn des jüdischen Seifenmachers Mayer Samuel Weisz (1829–1892) geboren. Als er vier Jahre alt war, zog seine Familie von Ungarn nach Appleton (Wisconsin) und später nach New York, wo sie sich schließlich endgültig niederließ. In den USA änderte die Familie die Schreibung ihres Namens in „Weiss“. Erik nannte sich fortan „Ehrich“.
Harry Houdini was born in 1874 as the son of the Jewish soapmaker Mayer Samuel Weisz (1829-1892). When he was four years old, his family moved from Hungary to Appleton (Wisconsin) and later to New York, where they finally settled. In the United States, the family changed the spelling of their name to "Weiss". Erik then called himself "Ehrich".
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Freedom of Speech? 05 Jun 2017 20:40 #37

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Trial Begins for Teen Accused of Urging Boyfriend to Suicide

What you need to know about the case against Michelle Carter, accused of using text messages to push her boyfriend into taking his own life


Attorney Joseph Cataldo talks to his client, Michelle Carter on Monday, June 5th

Update: Michelle Carter waived her right to a jury trial, opting instead for the decision to be reached in by the judge in a bench trial.

A Massachusetts woman is currently on trial for allegedly manipulating her boyfriend via text messages to take his own life.

Michelle Carter was a 17-year-old high school student when, according to the Bristol County District Attorney's Office, she used text messages to encourage her boyfriend Conrad Roy III to kill himself on July 12th, 2014.

Roy, 18, a high school graduate who had just been accepted to Fitchburg State University, rigged up a gasoline-powered water pump and sat in his truck in a Kmart parking lot in order to kill himself by carbon monoxide poisoning.

He had second thoughts and stepped out of the vehicle, but then he talked with his girlfriend on his cell phone and received a text pushing him to "Get back in." And so he did.

According to local news reports, Carter sent Roy dozens of texts helping him plan his death. She told him he was hesitating and insisted he was prepared to follow through with the plan. She texted, "No more pushing it off. No more waiting."

Carter's defense lawyers argued that Carter's words were "free speech" and cannot be criminalized under state law.

The two were normal high-school kids, but had dealt with mental illness in the past

Roy was a brown-haired, athletic Red Sox fan who grew up in a coastal former whaling town about 60 miles south of Boston. He earned high marks at Old Rochester Regional High School in Mattapoisett, and had his captain's license because, according to New York Magazine, his grandfather owned a tugboat company. He lived an hour drive south from Carter, a blond-haired, athletic honor roll student at King Philip Regional High School in Wrentham.

According to New York, the two met when vacationing on the Gulf of Mexico in Naples, Florida. They returned home where they hardly saw each other, but fostered a relationship based on texting and social media.

Despite their outward appearances, they both had "admitted mental illness," according to the Boston Globe. Roy would struggle with social anxiety and saw therapists and counselors after overdosing on acetaminophen. Carter received treatment at McLean Hospital, the psychiatric affiliate of Harvard University.

Carter kept up appearances after her boyfriend's death

Since Carter's arrest, her defense created a narrative that she was a confused teenager who was manipulated by her suicidal boyfriend. But prosecutors, in turn, described Carter as a sociopath who preyed upon a fragile-minded young man.

Roy's family said Carter's actions after her boyfriend's death made her appear calculative rather than innocent. Three months after Roy's death, Carter organized a softball tournament and raised funds for mental health awareness. She took to Twitter, "I can't believe today already marks four months without you. I love you and miss you always Conrad."

Police have said she also texted Roy's mother, Lynn, until the end of that year and wrote, "I saw my life with him" and "you need to know that it is not your fault." She told the grieving mother that Roy "didn't think he'd be a good husband or father and didn't want his kid to have the same problem."

Defense wanted the case thrown out of court

Early in court proceedings, Cataldo pressured Bristol District Attorney Thomas Quinn, Roy's third cousin, to rescind himself from the case. Quinn turned the case over to Bristol prosecutors Katie Rayburn and MaryClare Flynn.

Cataldo then tried to have the involuntary manslaughter case thrown out, contending that Carter's actions did not violate any state law and prosecutors charged her with manslaughter as a "transparent effort calculated to circumvent the fact that the legislature has not criminalized words that encourage suicide."

In September 2015, Bristol County's Taunton Juvenile Court Judge Bettina Borders rejected Cataldo's motion to dismiss the charge.

At the time, Bob McGovern, the Boston Herald's legal columnist, wrote that when Carter told her boyfriend to get back into the vehicle, she "broke every law of human decency – but she didn't commit an actual crime" since the state does not have laws against encouraging suicide.

In April 2016, Cataldo repeated his arguments before the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.

Three months later, the high court ruled that Carter could indeed be tried as a "youthful offender" for involuntary manslaughter since she could have had "verbal communications" with her boyfriend to "carry more weight than mere words, overcoming any independent will to live he might have had," Supreme Judicial Court Justice Robert Cordy wrote.

Carter told investigators that she wanted to help her boyfriend. "I told him I loved him," Carter said, according to the Boston Herald. "I told him a lot of people loved him ... I told him he should come with me and get the help he needed."

But prosecutors plan to argue that her kind words contradict her unlocked texts sent before Roy's death.

"Just go somewhere in your truck and no one is really out there right now because it's an awkward time," she said, according to court documents.

"If you don't do it now you're never gonna do it, and you can say you'll do it tomorrow, but you probably won't."

She even seemingly admitted guilt later, texting a friend, "It's all my fault because I could have stopped him but I [expletive] didn't. All I had to say was I love you and don't do this one more time, and he'd still be here."

www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/trial-begins-for-teen-accused-of-urging-boyfriend-to-suicide-w485803
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Freedom of Speech? 07 Jun 2017 15:27 #38

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Freedom of Speech? 07 Jun 2017 16:13 #39

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Freedom: is a state ,Its an internal place of dwelling
Speech : Real power is knowledge of self ,Im not talking about reading a book ,Im talking self inquiry self exploration!
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At this moment in time the power to control freedom of speech is in the hands of a minority of
evil psychopaths with a distinctive superiority complex. To throw dust in the eyes of the"cattle",
that provides for their well-being and wealth, they "graciously grant" the good-natured slaves
a smoke-and-mirrors system called "democracy", defined by their usual prerogative of inter-
pretation. The slaves have to learn those distorted, upside-down "laws" of this "democracy"
by heart from childhood on, so that they will never be able to question or doubt the lawmakers,
if they believe in the hubristic superiority of the slave drivers.


On Truth Zone those laws are leveraged by a policy of nonintervention, which, at the same time
opens the doors to abuse of freedom of speech by bullies, trolls of all kinds and system shills,
who are doing their best to distort the truth about the slave-drivers and trying to mislead, confuse
and divide the slaves.


This is the negative side-effect of free speech and thus I say:


No rules, no free speech.


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