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TOPIC: The Origin of Christianity

The Origin of Christianity 03 Jan 2013 01:26 #1

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"The Greatest Story Ever Told" is part one of the movie Zeitgeist, a summation of the real origin of christianity and a clear demonstration that the Bible's authors plagiarized the astrotheological stories of older religions. Is it really just coincidence that Christmas (Jesus's birthday) replaced Sol Invictus, the Roman celebration of the sun? Why does so much artwork depict Jesus with a solar disk behind his head?

During the Roman Empire, a festival of the birth of the Unconquered Sun (or Dies Natalis Solis Invicti) was celebrated on the winter solstice - the "rebirth" of the sun. In Germanic mythology this is Sol, in Vedic - Surya, and in Greek - Helios (occasionally referred to as Titan) and sometimes as Apollo. Mesopotamian Shamash plays an important role during the Bronze Age, and "my Sun" is eventually used as an address to royalty. Similarly, South American cultures have emphatic Sun worship of Inti, the ancient Incan sun god of the Inca Empire. Svarog is the Slavic god sun and spirit of fire.

The Roman Empire adopted Helios into their own mythology as Sol. The title Sol Invictus (undefeated Sun) was applied to several solar deities, and depicted on several types of Roman coins during the 3rd and 4th centuries. The birth of the "undefeated Sun" was celebrated after the winter solstice on the 25th of December.

Sol Invictus (Invincible Sun) was the official sun god of the later Roman Empire. In 274 the Roman emperor Aurelian made it an official cult alongside the traditional Roman cults. The sun god was favored by emperors after Aurelian and appeared on their coins until Constantine. The last inscription referring to Sol Invictus dates to 387 AD and there were enough devotees in the 5th century that Augustine found it necessary to preach against them. During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a "solar monotheism." Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of solar qualities. The feast of Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the celebrated birthday of Christ.

The worship of the Sun in the Eastern world has its historical origin in Ancient Egypt. The Egyptians identified the Sun with Ra, one of the major deities in their religion, and the visible disk of the Sun (known as Aten) was either seen as the body or the eye of Ra. The pharaoh Akhenaten established a monotheistic religion during his reign, with Aten as its central figure.

The fundamental sun-sky gods of ancient Egypt were Osiris, Horus and Ra. Because of an extremely large timespan these and other gods flourished in Egypt, there is a considerable degree of overlap and permutation regarding their attributes and stories. For the purpose of simplification, this film encapsulates the general characteristics of various ancient Egyptian gods under the title of Horus.

To the Zeitgeist debunkers who don't seem to get it, the point here is to show similarities between Jewish-Greco-Roman Christianity and other ancient religions. This film is a summation of the greatest story ever plagiarized, not an all-inclusive detailed study of ancient religious mythology.

1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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The Origin of Christianity 10 Jan 2013 17:04 #2

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I haven't finished reading it yet, so can't say whether it's good or not, but might be interesting to some in this context



www.thegreatestlieevertold.co.uk/Home.html

www.thegreatestlieevertold.co.uk/Download_files/Chapter%201.pdf
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The Origin of Christianity 12 Mar 2015 18:39 #3

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Did you post this text because you agree, or just because you thought it might be interesting to share, Novum?


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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The Origin of Christianity 12 Mar 2015 21:31 #4

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Nice headline ....... but what is meant by it; comes to my mind?

The Origin of Christianity.

Do people believe its time line related?

I say it has nothing to do with past times; but has everything to do with the individuals & present time.

What is a so called Christian anyway?

1) Some one which sits in fancy buildings reading parts of a book & listening to a boring priest or pastor? = Not a Christianity prove!

2) A believer in a God which they can not even see or point too? = Not a Christianity prove!


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My true Origin Christian would be this in a very simple form.

1) A true Christian image is always just on an individual base & not ever a group sport.

2) Some one which noticed within his lifetime he is not doing right to himself or towards others. (self criticizing by thinking about yourself & things in general)
A just newly born Christian which could be any time within his lifetime.

3) Some one which is basically a good personality not doing anything towards anyone & started to notice that others are truly doing wrong things towards others. (started to be observing things externally realizing it internally within his mind.) saying to yourself I never like to become like those which I can see doing things wrong towards others.
Already an advanced Christian. ..... even so you never ever followed any Religion organization.


4) Because of having the ability of being (self criticizing) & the ability of being ( observant ) within your surroundings & you are getting interested in the forefathers stories & you start to read from scriptural records from historical time lines. "be it from scripture directly, bible, Koran ... etc" (you create interest of seeking more information generally to add things to your knowledge base)
Already an advanced seeking type Christian .....
You just keep learning more and more & after some time you start to understand the true meaning of Jesus & what the true Father reality truly means & stands for.

Nothing to do with believing anything but all related to understanding something & not to do things towards others and yourself which has negative outcomes.

Enough for now:
All these activities are Christian like activities, conclusions & actions even so if you never noticed it; or even considered yourself to be a Christian.

And this is what I would consider & call the true Origin of true Christianity & its being........... (even just one individual could represent the whole of Christianity any time & anywhere within your lifetime)
and has very little to do with book reading really; but reading some forefathers historical records could be used to add to your knowledge base but should be acquired on your own without external doctoring from others only giving you there personal interpretation of scripture the way they seeing it personally.


And once the Origin of Christianity manifested within the individual its very easy to stand on your own two feet & to communicate and mix with others within your surroundings because you understand yourself & therefore you understand others of your own kind by default.

So bottom line .... what is Origin of Christianity?
Its something which Originates the day you the individual found yourself from inside out & started to use the inner understanding in your external surroundings.

So its not something you just learn from a book or others writings (way pointers yes; but that's how far it goes) ........ but is something you started to realize & understand fully within yourself & no believes are necessary at all. Also believes or reading books is not a prove of being a Christian ........ its inner self understanding & implementation which proves it & always was this way from the day it was realized then or now.

Christianity to me is timeless & placeless; has no beginning or end it just happens where it happens within the moment of realization within any individual while still being alive. It happened a million years ago to some one or it just happens to some one tomorrow morning.
All records of the past are just individuals which recorded there realization individually & many will write down there realization in the future to come.

I go so far to say that true Christianity was on earth even before humans invented speech or any writing to communicate with each other.
Where there were humans they must had been some Christianity in some one even without the word being created then.
Also the so called modern time Jesus was around way, way before the Adam & Eve story was created by some one.
Seth was the representation of Jesus then only hiding behind a different name. Names can be changed but not the realization & attribute relating to the symbolic name giving.
1 + 1 = 2


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The Origin of Christianity 12 Mar 2015 21:50 #5

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www.revolutioninreligion.com/index.php?page=the-religious-ignorance-of-people

The authors are a Jewish atheist, a grandmaster freemason new age aficionado and another Jew (Singer). No bias in there amongst Christianity at all. No.
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The Origin of Christianity -- The Greatest Lie Ever Told! 12 Mar 2015 22:52 #6

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The Greatest Lie Ever Told!

In today’s world MANY People believe they are ‘Christians’ by practice or by definition. Those who are not Christians in the world, want nothing to do with Christianity because they either hate it for its hypocrisy or consider it a joke. Of all the World Religions that offer some kind of Purpose and Direction to people’s lives, Christianity falls far short of sustaining a dedicated following. Certainly people love the form of religion, whether Christian or non-Christian and simulate themselves to it in some nominal fashion to satisfy their psychological need to believe in a higher power.

However Christianity of itself has planted the seeds of its own destruction by creating a System where it brings the people in, requiring NOTHING but a mere confession of ‘sinfulness’ and a ‘Receiving’ of something non-tangible because it brings about no real change inside their hearts. The theme of Christianity is: ‘Not of Works!’ which has translated into ‘No one is Perfect’ and ‘You can’t Judge me!’ Under this premise the Convert is brought into the System under the assumption that God has Saved him as a miserable sinner and forgiven him because he now ‘Believes’ in Jesus. Nothing is required, but to ‘Believe’ or ‘TRUST’ in what they have told you Jesus did by dying on the Cross for your sins, paying the price you owe and then rising from the dead. Now you are Declared or Pronounced Right with God, despite what you feel inside or how wretched you remain. God has given you this Salvation as a Free Gift without Conditions and you dare not presume that you have to DO Anything to Receive it, or keep it.

Now that you are a ‘Christian’ the work begins to Convince you that the Bible actually teaches all of this and since you know nothing (or next to nothing) about the Bible or Christian history for that matter, you buy into the whole scheme assuming it must be true because a whole bunch of other people believe in it and are telling you it is! Naturally you are Not equipped to dispute anything they say or try to prove them wrong. The whole thing sounds good and gives most people a real sense of assurance that God really does love them and has sent Jesus to Save them from their many imperfections. The whole System is designed to keep reminding them they DON’T have to Work for their Salvation, it’s a done deal. And God is NOT going to Judge them any more for their ongoing sins. (There’s no Condemnation in Christ!)

Unlike the other major Religions of the world that require some kind of Sacrifice and self denial and may bring about real disruption in your life, Christianity is free wheeling and Easy. Anybody can be a Christian! God doesn’t really expect much from you; in fact He asks nothing more than you ‘Believe’ in Jesus. Beyond that He has taken care the rest. You get a Free trip to heaven when you die no matter what you do on earth and no matter what OTHERS may think of the duplicity of your Religion. They can laugh all they want, because you follow the one True God and He is coming to Rapture you out of here real soon.

Even though the ‘Devils Believe’ in God and fear Him, you ‘Believe’ and do not fear because you think He winks at your sin. That somehow the ritual of ‘Receiving’ Jesus has excluded you from any Judgment for your wrong doing. Christianity then becomes a way out of trouble, God is your benefactor and total source of blessing that flow from His throne to you. (because you believe) Your wrong doing is no longer an issue and no one has to constantly remind you to get right or do right or clean up your act. God is responsible for all of that! You just sit back and relax, attend your church, tithe, listen to your pastor and everything will fall into place in its own good time, while you enjoy the ride.

It doesn’t matter that the Converts coming in remain addicted to their Drugs, Booze, Lust, anger, strife, malice, gossip and back biting. You have your own problems to deal with, let God worry about them. After all Christians are forgiven but NOT Perfect! At least that’s what the Pastor is always saying and he has his own issues to solve. Again, if the world or other Religions think we are a bunch of hypocrites and reprobates so be it. They will die in their sins; ours have been forgiven and hold no further condemnation.
The Only Difference that’s important is who has ‘Received’ Jesus and Who Hasn’t.

So the Christians are told constantly that the Pornographer won’t go to hell for his hundreds of pornographic films or the debauchery of his life style, but ONLY because he Refuses to ACCEPT Jesus as his savior. The Practicing Homosexual too cannot be told that Hell awaits him for his sins, but only if he doesn’t pray the ‘sinner’s prayer’ and get converted! The World looks on this and sees the Child Molesters, Practicing Homosexuals, Pornographers, drunkards, lairs, thief’s, ect, ect. Professing Christianity in the churches because they’ve done the deal, and ‘PRAYED’ the Prayer, and they cover their noses at the horrible stench of the counterfeit Religion. Why is Christianity considered a Joke to most of the World? It’s not by Mistake, they’ve earned the reputation. It is a JOKE! Just listen to what the Pastors and Teachers are pumping out on a daily bases, all across the air waves, internet, everywhere they can be heard. Try and let it sink down into your ears for once and really listen. Would God, (if there really is a God!) impose such a Message on mankind at this? Would the BEST He could offer the Sinful, wretched Mess this Planet has become was a Blanket Forgiveness for DOING NOTHING???

That you merely ‘Believe’ in Jesus and go about your business of living your life anyway you wish? WHY does a Vast Majority of the world population who reject your phony Christianity BELIEVE in a God that Does Require something of them? But you Follow a God that has NO POWER to Do anything about your ‘Sinful’ Condition other than ‘Forgive’ you and pronounce you Right. The BEST you can hope for is to live as a Wretch and the Chief of Sinners while on earth and offer God some kind of mediocre Obedience when you feel obligated to do so out of your Gratitude for Saving you in your sins! What a Joke! The devils in hell are laughing at you now.

No wonder the other Major Religions of the world what to blow you up. You go out in the Name of God and wreck havoc on other countries and Justify your actions by some Divine decree. You warp yourself in the flag and march off to war believing God is on your side and your cause is righteous! You pray for your teams and ask for everything but a Heart Cleansing of Sin! You THINK God’s Kindness waiting for you to Repent of your sins and turn to Him for Mercy, is His Approval on your life style. You know NOTHING about what Jesus REALLY Said nor do you CARE that His Message is 1000% OPPOSITE of What you are hearing in your churches!
http://www.standingthegap.org/greatest_lie_ever_told.htm


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Extinct By 2067 15 Jun 2015 19:43 #7

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Christianity To Be Extinct By 2067 Says New Government Report
Read more at www.inquisitr.com/2170856/christianity-to-be-extinct-by-2067-says-new-government-report/#1SrU9YHuBdQp4dtO.99
Is this a target date ?
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A new governmental report on Christianity is making some waves, though, according to the report, not as many waves as one might think. The core of the report is that Christianity, once the religion that wasn’t to be trifled with, is quickly on the decline, and at a much faster rate than anyone really thought. Christianity is declining so quickly that experts believe the religion will be “statistically nonexistent” by 2067 — or, in other words, extinct.

The report that leads to a prediction of Christianity’s demise stems from the British Census Study, the British Social Attitudes survey, and the British Election Study. Though the report on Christianity centers on Great Britain, experts say that Christians would be naive to think that the United States isn’t far behind, and offers evidence and statistics to back up their predictions.

According to the statistics, between 2001 and 2011, the number of people who followed Christianity fell by over 5.3 million people. To put that on a timescale, that’s about 10,000 individuals per week forsaking Christianity. Following up on those stats, Christianity will fall to nonexistence in England in the year 2067.

The Social Attitude survey concurs with this data on Christianity. Believers in Christianity fell from 40 percent of the British population in 1983, to 29 percent in 2004, to 17 percent in 2014.

So how does all this affect Christianity in the United States and beyond? Well, again, according to the statistics, Christianity in the United States is falling out of influence almost as quickly as in Great Britain. Thirty-six percent (more than a third) of American citizens between the ages of 18 and 24 identify themselves as having no religious affiliation whatsoever — the largest unaffiliated cross-section of that demographic in history.

Furthermore, in an article on the decline of Christianity in Great Britain and beyond, writer Damian Thompson calls attention to one of the most contentious of legal issues in the United States, Roe v. Wade, and its effect on abortion. What’s more, Thompson talks about the inability of the Christian-minded conservative right to overturn the Supreme Court’s ruling on Roe v. Wade.

“The failure of American Christians to secure the repeal of Roe v. Wade is mirrored by British Catholics’ fruitless campaign against the 1967 Abortion Act. These failures can’t simply be ascribed to popular support for abortion. They are signs of the waning of religion in Britain and the United States, where Christianity is being attacked by, and accommodating to, European-style secularisation.”

The statistics don’t lie. Christianity is farther back on its heels than its ever been in 2,000-odd years. However, that doesn’t mean the current trends of demise will continue.

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/2170856/christianity-to-be-extinct-by-2067-says-new-government-report/#1SrU9YHuBdQp4dtO.99
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