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Natural People 16 May 2013 18:26 #1

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This has been on my mind for a while now. Natural people.
Women shave their body hair, armpits, etc. Men wax the hair off their chests, backs, and balls, etc. We douse ourselves in chemicals created in labs that "smell attractive and pleasant".
Is that natural? Is that the way we should be?
Women have hairy armpits and legs, always have, accept it, get over it, and go about your day :D

A modern woman would probably think I was insane, sick, perverted, would maybe think I had an armpit hair fetish, or a body odour fetish :chuckle: I'm just being a real man I think. Natural. I've smelled women's natural body scent, sometimes it repulses me, sometimes it attracts me. Maybe that's why there are so many divorces, because people cop a whiff of each other at some point and realise they are genetically incompatible or something :D

If my future girlfriend/wife has hairy pits, etc. I don't think I'd mind. There, I said it... I've come out I think, I've come out as a human, as a man.

What do you think? What's more natural, a shaved woman, doused in chemicals made in a lab? Or a clean natural woman, with her own natural scent?

We seem to go out of our way to hide ourselves kind of thing. We seem to go out of our way to cover up our nature.

Thoughts? :D
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Natural People 16 May 2013 19:27 #2

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I dunno, irre. I don't think we live very "naturally" today, anyway; and what with the situations we have to undertake (bus journeys or train/tube journeys with lots of others. Centrally heated houses, offices and cars, etc) and the fashions we wear - which aren't "designed" to look good with hairy bits sticking out all over the place, it seems that exfoliation (in women, anyway) is as much to do with hygiene as with fitting a fashion image.

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"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
if he undaunted be....". (Beowulf).

"The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths... Beautiful people do not just happen". (Elisabeth Kubler-Ross).


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Natural People 16 May 2013 19:34 #3

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The hygiene issue... I've noticed that my pits don't stink. If I give them a wash every day, bathe, etc. :chuckle:
Clean but natural pits, don't tend to stink, although I have noticed that sometimes I have been repulsed a bit, if that's the word, by certain scents, even though the ladies in question were clean. Men always stink a bit if the truth be told, so I probably stink to other men :D
Since I stopped using deoderant, women stand very close sometimes :D

The fashion image, well there's probably something in that, but I think that's purely down to MSM conditioning.
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Natural People 17 May 2013 02:38 #4

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I have noticed that sometimes I have been repulsed a bit, if that's the word, by certain scents, even though the ladies in question were clean.

As long as a ladies you know what does not smell bad and she shaves her arm pits.. i don't like make-up on girls.
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Natural People 17 May 2013 18:31 #5

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Thanks for starting this thread, Irre. :up:
I will come back to this most important topic asap.
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
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Natural People 17 May 2013 18:36 #6

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I think there could be an agenda behind it. I think that it serves to further separate men and women from each other.
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Natural People 21 May 2013 12:42 #7

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If you re-engineer the genes of a natural human being, for example to contain animal genes, is it still a human being?

If you create a multiple or completely deranged personality by special methods, so that it will act like a puppet without a perceivable will or conscience of its own, is it still a human being?

What makes a humanoid a natural human being?


To me it's

- human body
- consciousness
- empathy
- responsibility for and love of nature (all that is)



Signs of degeneration/denaturalisation/dehumanisation are

- desire to alter/improve nature
- exploitation of nature
- reckless destruction of nature



Real natural humans will realise these signs in everything and on all levels of our nowadays lives and take them for what they are:

A deliberate struggle of annihilation against us.
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Natural People 21 May 2013 19:55 #8

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Although not very hairy, I couldn't imagine not shaving under my arms and lower legs. I feel cleaner and less spikey :P
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Natural People 21 May 2013 21:57 #9

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pheony wrote:
Although not very hairy, I couldn't imagine not shaving under my arms and lower legs. I feel cleaner and less spikey :P


What's your opinion on genitally mutilated men?
Do you think a mutilated penis is much more attractive and hygienic than a natural, intact one, too?

Shaving makes me feel spikey and I feel perfectly clean by birth and by shower/bath.
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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Natural People 21 May 2013 22:22 #10

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
pheony wrote:
Although not very hairy, I couldn't imagine not shaving under my arms and lower legs. I feel cleaner and less spikey :P


What's your opinion on genitally mutilated men?
Do you think a mutilated penis is much more attractive and hygienic than a natural, intact one, too?

Shaving makes me feel spikey and I feel perfectly clean by birth and by shower/bath.

Some men are "genitally mutilated" for medical reasons, some religious.

What the hell has shaving under ones arms got to do with the difference between a "Mutilated penis" and a" natural intact one"?...Hair grows back!

I don't judge a mans penis...you obviously do.

Good for you that you "feel perfectly clean by birth and by shower/bath".. :clap: .....How boring life would be if we were all the same.
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Natural People 22 May 2013 01:02 #11

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I was circumcised. I'm not religious, or from a religious background. I was more like a victim of the circumcision industry. Conned by doctors, doctors know best eh?
It was one of, if not the worst thing that has ever happened to me. I'm still coming to terms with it, and still have a way to go before I'm okay with it. I'll never be okay with it, but I can learn to live with it better I suppose.
It was done at 17. It was devastating really. I think I had a bit of PTSD, and then depression in the following months and years.
A huge amount of skin was taken, a real good old butcher job, that created problems, sometimes slightly painful erections, slightly stunted erections too probably... imagine squeezing a 6" sponge into a 3" cylinder, something along those lines (that's not the size of my willy btw :D)
Hair along the shaft that shouldn't be there, thanks to all that lovely smooth shaft skin that was sliced away, so hair bearing scrotal skin is pulled up. I have to shave every day almost, that's if I'm sexually active, a fucking rarity these days :D
It's definitely had a detrimental effect on my love life, it's affected my relationship with women, affected my relationship with myself. I just don't feel whole, something is missing, I feel vulnerable and exposed, slightly disconnected from something, like there is a big hole in my being almost.
Sex isn't as pleasurable as it should be due to keratinization of the glans and mucosal tissue, what's left of the mucosal tissue, we're talking hundreds of thousands of nerve endings removed by that lovely surgical procedure.
A foreskin is not just a flap of skin, it's much, much more than that, and don't some of our lovely religions, and our medical institutions know that eh?

So yeah, circumcision has been devastating for me, hard to come to terms with. Difficult to be confident with women, feeling different to men. Not a great thing to have to go through and feel.

Well how's that for a bit of divulgence haha :D
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Natural People 22 May 2013 03:36 #12

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pheony wrote:
Although not very hairy, I couldn't imagine not shaving under my arms and lower legs. I feel cleaner and less spikey :P

I've never experienced a woman with hairy pits :D But I am curious about it because women have hairy pits naturally. Women also never used to shave their underarms as commonly as they do today. Hairy pits used to be a common thing.
I'm not sure how I'd react, I don't think I'd be shocked or disgusted because it is natural after all. I will admit that hairy legs might possibly be a bit harder to get my head around :D But that is also natural.
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Natural People 22 May 2013 05:38 #13

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Hmm, Not shaving.

I heard that the shaving thing gained popularity during WW!....from the French. But that Yankee women don't shave during the winter, I have no idea if that's true; No disrespect, just what I "heard"....

Next thing ya know, women are getting their ears pierced!

So, anyway, Dad traveled a small bit around Europe (courtesy of the US Army and in the mid-70's and told tales of nude bathing and NO SHAVING. (for women)

Not to mention the brochure of the German 'spa' I saw featuring both genders butt nekkid at some spa that one time,as afforded tome by a very nice German lady, who probably got secret larfs from me reaction to said brochures.
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Natural People 22 May 2013 07:56 #14

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I think this looks ok....



& I like women unshaven 'down there' too. :)

As for circumcision. Its both un-natural & an un-necessary form of mutilation imo (unless it has to be done for genuine medical purposes of course). I'm glad I'm 'intact'...
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Natural People 22 May 2013 08:07 #15

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She's nice :D
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& I like women unshaven 'down there' too. :)

It's more womanly and inviting I think. If a woman prefers to shave herself though then I'd be okay with that as well because it's her body and her choice after all.

As for circumcision, they perform it all too often and all too quickly. The thing that pisses me off is that no other options were considered before I got mine, it was just "circumcision", end of story. I just went along with the doctors :roll:
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Natural People 22 May 2013 08:16 #16

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I'm very wary of doctors these days. They're invariably in the pockets of big pharma for a start (don't they just love that prescription pad?)

And a few years back, one at my local surgery broke the hippocratic oath, I kid you not!
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Natural People 22 May 2013 21:58 #17

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diamondgeezer wrote:
I think this looks ok....


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I think that looks gross. :noway:
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Sometimes natural can be ok....
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.......... wrote:
Sometimes natural can be ok....

still looks like her legs are shaved. :chuckle:

up top she looks like a young demi moore.

down below its more like rick james.
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.......... wrote:
Sometimes natural can be ok....
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:rofl: Yeah but that's not 'natural', cos it ain't actually real....
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