TOPIC: satan

We have some GOD threads here, now I thought, let's start a thread on satan

What makes satanism so attractive for many?

This is a photo posted by member "luciferhorus" on DIF, nobody deleted it for months or even years on end, and he was a treated as a honourable, senior member by the admin, mods and other members - with thousands and thousands of posts.

CAUTION: not suitable for kids

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On this forum there are also several members who openly adore the entity commonly called satan.

I would like to start a discussion on the reasons, backgrounds, aims of those people and your opinions.
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Complete and utter rubbish!

If you think this is


"Complete and utter rubbish as usual"

you should delete the thread, Pheony.

Deleting your comment is not a real solution.

If you have a thing for satanism - speak out!

This is the Truth Zone after all.

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Always watching eh, PFIZIPFEI! How sad, you obviously don't have a life off of TZ....I pity you!

The post I deleted.....

"Complete and utter rubbish as per usual "...Happy now!

How very sad you are, PFIZIPFEI!

pheony wrote:
I have a REAL life, Pheony and above all I wish for the children and grandchildren to have a REAL REAL life in FREEDOM.

You seem to be completely unaware of what is going on, or denying it.

I am sad because a real human and friend of mine died yesterday.

And I am angry, because of millions of brainwashed humans in earth are denying their responsibility to use their brain!
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I don't know anyone on here who is a satanist. I remember there were a good number of them posting on DIFs (probably still are) and they were very vociferous in defending or promoting their beliefs - bikerdruid used to be very defensive of his Dark Arts and was always promoting his satan as actually benevolent and genuine. The twonk.

But none of that lot came over here.

I don't believe in 'satan' much as I do not believe in 'god'

Satanism itself is such a broad term that it is difficult to pin down why someone would identify as such unless we ask them directly.

I have no idea if anyone on this forum identifies as a satanist and have only met one person in my life thus far who does - he saw satanism as something which promoted personal responsibility and freedom. Can't say I see it myself but each to their own.

Do you think there is "good" and "bad", or are these only creations of the erring human mind?


Hexhammer wrote:
"Oy wey, this is just fiddler's fun!"

Anybody interested in starting an "anal sex-thread" instead perhaps?

a Crowleyist would most definitely.

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
I have never read this anywhere on Truth Zone...

I'm starting to see why other forum members don't like you PFIZIPFEI...

To believe in the theory of Satan you must believe the story's in the bible.

Who believes rivers turned to blood and Moses parted a sea with a magic rod?

.......... wrote: Show your colours with "Theory".

What you've said is not entirely true. Satan features equally as prominently in the Torah (from which much of the OT accords) and the Quran.

Are you not familiar with the child and animal sacrifices that King Solomon brought to Jerusalem (using the 6 point hexagram, in the ritual) from Canaan, and enshrined in Judaism practices at the Second Temple? Practices which were identified in Spain in the Middle ages and led to Queen Isabella expelling all Jews from Spain.

Are you familiar with Angie Bowie's "story" of the satanic ritual she and David conducted in their LA home in the 70s? She's pretty graphic in what was done and occurred.

Are you not familiar with Satanic Ritual Abuse of children?

Then there's this guy. Anton Lavey (a Jew).



Who wrote this.



Do I need to go on? I could.

Here's Angie Bowie ... this is straight from her biography.

Backstage Passes: Life on the Wild Side With David Bowie.

“There was a beautiful Art Deco house on six acres, an exquisite site property and a terrific value at just $300,000, but he took one look at a detail I hadn’t noticed, a hexagram painted on the floor of a circular room by the previous owner, Gypsy Rose Lee.

“A great deal of codling and reassurance got us through that crisis, and I went and found the Doheny Drive house. Built in the late fifties or early sixties, it was a white cube surrounding an indoor swimming pool. David like the place, but I thought it was too small to meet our needs for very long, and I wasn’t crazy about the pool. In my experience, indoor pools are always a problem.

“This one was no exception, albeit not in any of the usual ways. Its drawback was one I hadn’t encountered before and haven’t seen or heard of since: Satan lived in it. With his own eyes, David said, he’d seen HIM rising up out of the water one night.”

Feeling demonic forces moving in, David felt strongly that he needed an exorcism and asked that his new found friend white witch Walli Elmlark be called upon to lend her assistance to remove the evil from his surroundings.

“A Greek Orthodox Church, in LA would have done it for us (there was a priest available for such a service, the people had told me) but David wouldn’t have it. No strangers allowed, he said. So there we stood, with just Walli’s instructions and a few hundred dollars’ worth of books, talismans, and assorted items from Hollywood’s comprehensive selection of fine occult emporia.

“There he (David Bowie) was, then, primed and ready. The proper books and doodads were arranged on a big old-fashioned lectern. The incantation began, and although I had no idea what was being said or what language it was being said in, I couldn’t stop a weird cold feeling rising up in me as David droned on and on.

“There’s no easy or elegant way to say this, so I’ll just say it straight. At a certain point in the ritual, the pool began to bubble. It bubbled vigorously (perhaps “thrashed” is a better term) in a manner inconsistent with any explanation involving air filters or the like.”

The rock and roll couple watched in amazement. Angie says she tried to be flippant – “’Well, dear, aren’t you clever? It seems to be working. Something’s making a move, don’t you think?’ – but I couldn’t keep it up. It was very, very strange; even after my recent experiences I was having trouble accepting what my eyes were seeing.”

Angie insists that she would peak through the glass doors leading to the pool every so often and was dumb founded by what she saw. “On the bottom of the pool was a large shadow, or stain, which had not been there before the ritual began. It was in the shape of a beast of the underworld; it reminded me of those twisted, tormented gargoyles screaming silently from the spires of medieval cathedrals. It was ugly, shocking, malevolent; it frightened me.

“I backed away from it feeling very strange, went through the doorway, and told David what I’d seen, trying to be nonchalant but not doing very well. He turned white but eventually became revived enough to spend the rest of the night doing coke. He wouldn’t go near the pool, though.

“I still don’t know what to think about that night. It runs directly counter to my pragmatism and my everyday faith in the integrity of the “normal” world, and it confuses me greatly. What troubles me the most is that if you were to call that stain the mark of Satan, I don’t see how I could argue with you.”

“David, of course, insisted that we move from the house as quickly as possible, and we did that, but I’ve heard from reliable sources (Michael Lipman for one, the property’s real estate agent) that subsequent tenants haven’t been able to remove the shadow. Even though the pool has been painted over a number of times, the shadow has always come back.”

Well that's me convinced.
It's not as if the Bowie's were the types inclined towards massively creative imaginations or psychedelic drug use.



Ohh .....

What a surprise that that line gets pushed.

A response straight put of the biker druid handbook.

Silly Satan

Silly Satan, you’re a clown.
Never will you make me frown.
As you play your silly tricks.
Words and tuned play with sticks.

As you cast your fiery spells
Conjure up your tired old hells;
I can tell you plain and straight
Your promises are too late.

You pretend to make them rich
While their souls are black as pitch
You cannot win while I laugh aloud,
I will not join you, I am too proud.

I will stamp on your tail and pull off your horns,
Jump on your back and avoid your thorns.
When I am close to those I love,
I require the peace of the dove
You are banished as of now.
Out you go, kerpow!

Mary-Angela Bowie Barnett 1979

Orangeaid wrote:
Ever consider you may be spending a bit too much time online scaring yourself and seeking out confirmation bias?
Do you base all responses to your experiences and other users on DIF?

OK Since you posted Angie Bowie's poyum I'll concede.
I was wrong to cite "the Bowie's" as massively creative.
David is massively creative.

I said to stay quiet, but I just have to say something here...

PHIZIPFEI, I said devil has the best music, that was a sarcastic remark and secondly it seems to be true, the stuff that parents/girlfriends and fundamental religious people label as 'devils music' is just the stuff I happen to like. I've been into heavy metal for over twenty years and hell yes, there's a lot about the devil in that. But I don't worship the devil, I only worship the music. Make out of that what ever you wish, but I ain't a satanist, I'm a drummer.

I can admit that I've been into occult stuff before, interest into this area comes with the field I suppose. Does that make me into a evil devil worshipping occultist who burns churches and sacrifices babies for satan? Hell no.

I work full time and hardly spend too much time online scaring myself. Though nice to have people make statements about someone they don't even know to apologise for or talk kindly to protect satan.

Is satan the new Jew?

books.google.com.au/books?id=OomyGN_btTQC&pg=PA142&lpg=PA141&ots=Z6I27NdlWi&focus=viewport&dq=bowie+satan&output=html_text

Bowie was quite a fan of the satanic ramblings of Kenneth Anger and believed satan wanted his sperm to impregnate a witch and produce a son of Satan - just like in Rosemary's Baby.

Should we move on to satanist Jew boy Anton Lavey now?

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
That's the crux of it really, those who don't believe in good or evil so to speak. I've not seen any hard core satanists over here to be honest, just atheists, and there's a big difference between somebody not believing in God, to somebody who's a hardcore satanist. Like that ghastly clown bikerdruid for instance. It's interesting I think how these same clowns who slate religion (and I'm not religious at all myself) are always quick to defend the Talmud, using the usual now failed retorts towards anybody who points out the racist supremacist nature of their own most sacred religious text. Yet at the same time they're trying to tell others they don't believe in religion. What they really mean is they don't believe in other peoples religions, only their own. but of course they can't openly state that, because it makes them appear like a bigoted supremacist, which of course is exactly what they are.

Not only that, the same people will also try and tell you there's no such thing as right and wrong, or good and evil, yet they will fly off the handle when you point out the supremacist nature of their own belief structure. Which begs the question, if there's no such thing as right and wrong, or good and evil as they're suggesting, why do they all get so upset when others are criticizing them? Surely somebody who truly thinks that right and wrong doesn't exist wouldn't give two f***s, right. I think those who try and tell us that good and evil doesn't exist are only saying it to justify their own monstrous behavior, they only want their victims to think that evil doesn't exist, so their victims have no concept of what is being done to them.