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TOPIC: What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'?

What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 09 Jun 2014 04:25 #41

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@I AM, here's a message from Christ written especially for you: ...

G'day Orangeaid.

It appears that your continued lying is to cover up your ignorance/lack of knowledge. :ponda:
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 08:16 #42

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I love you

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and this temple of truth urgently needs a good cleansing of the old kind

www.lds.org/bc/content/bible-videos/videos/jesus-cleanses-the-temple/images/35_jesus-cleanses-the-temple_1800x1200_300dpi_2.jpg

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:
G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Still no 'message' eh. It would appear that you do not know what it is. :ponda:

PFIZIPFEI wrote:

Seems you don't recognise a message
from and by CHRIST
if it bites you :)


JOHN 8:43

"How is it you do not understand me when I speak? It is because you cannot bear to listen to my words."

I AM ALL I AM wrote:

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

I checked back over the posts, and no, no post there by a forum member named "CHRIST". Maybe you could point it out to everyone reading along. Unless you are meaning that YOU are "CHRIST"? :dunno:


:iitm: :joker: :facepalm:



Orangeaid wrote:
@I AM, here's a message from Christ written especially for you:

Jesus says to fools:
"If you turn at my reproof, behold, I will pour out my spirit to you. I will make my words known to you.

When I called out, you refused to listen. When I stretched out my hand, no one heeded. You have ignored all my counsel and would have none of my reproof; therefore, I also will laugh at your calamity.

I will mock when terror strikes you; when terror strikes you like a storm and your calamity comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you.

Then you will call upon me, but I will not answer; you will seek me diligently but will not find me. Because you hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the LORD and would have none of my counsel and despised all my reproof, therefore, you shall eat the fruit of your way; and, have your fill of your own devices.

The simple are killed by their turning away, and the complacency of fools destroys them; but, whoever listens to me will dwell securely and will be at ease, without dread of disaster.”


This IAMALLIAM is simply here to take the pee.
No interest in civilised communication or any response,
only trying to get his anti-Christian propaganda out.
Communist? Marxist? Atheist libtard? Self-chosen Christian hater?
Does not matter, at least not a likeable user of this forum.
Very bot-like, completely standardised and boxed.


Addendum: This may explain something ...


I AM ALL I AM wrote:
thetruthcollector wrote:
Hello I AM ALL I AM...

...is it true that you used to be a police officer?

G'day Thetruthcollector.

Yes. Two years in the NSW police force, stationed at Parramatta, Sydney, 1988–1990.
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 08:31 #43

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
This IAMALLIAM is simply here to take the pee.
No interest in civilised communication or any response,
only trying to get his anti-Christian propaganda out.
Communist? Marxist? Atheist libtard? Self-chosen Christian hater?
Does not matter, at least not a likeable user of this forum.
Very bot-like, completely standardised and boxed.

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Is that your best effort at insulting me? :dunno:

Very christian of you. :thumbup:
1 Timothy 2:11-13
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

Is the above a message to you from 'Jesus'? :ponda:

Or was it the one about slaves obeying their masters?
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 08:48 #44

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
.....
Addendum: This may explain something ...
I AM ALL I AM wrote:
thetruthcollector wrote:
Hello I AM ALL I AM...

...is it true that you used to be a police officer?

G'day Thetruthcollector.

Yes. Two years in the NSW police force, stationed at Parramatta, Sydney, 1988–1990.

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Yes, it explains that I spent two years in the police force ... and ? :roll:

Interesting that you continue to focus on me personally instead of what is posted. :ponda:

Well, such is the case for those that are unable to present verifiable evidence for their claims, they resort to ad hominem.

Please keep posting, you are destroying your credibility beyond anything anyone else could achieve. Thank you. :thumbup:
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 08:59 #45

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Is that your best effort at insulting me? :dunno:

Very christian of you. :thumbup:
1 Timothy 2:11-13
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

Is the above a message to you from 'Jesus'? :ponda:

Or was it the one about slaves obeying their masters?
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Yes, it explains that I spent two years in the police force ... and ? :roll:

Interesting that you continue to focus on me personally instead of what is posted. :ponda:

Well, such is the case for those that are unable to present verifiable evidence for their claims, they resort to ad hominem.

Please keep posting, you are destroying your credibility beyond anything anyone else could achieve. Thank you. :thumbup:



Why should I intend to insult you? I said "I love you".
Do you feel insulted by being categorized according to your personal behaviour?
Then you might want to rethink or even change it, as no other can do this for you.

The message of Christ is not imperatively the word of the bible.
You know one from the other by your heart and brain and soul.
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 09:37 #46

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Is that your best effort at insulting me? :dunno:

Very christian of you. :thumbup:
1 Timothy 2:11-13
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

Is the above a message to you from 'Jesus'? :ponda:

Or was it the one about slaves obeying their masters?
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Yes, it explains that I spent two years in the police force ... and ? :roll:

Interesting that you continue to focus on me personally instead of what is posted. :ponda:

Well, such is the case for those that are unable to present verifiable evidence for their claims, they resort to ad hominem.

Please keep posting, you are destroying your credibility beyond anything anyone else could achieve. Thank you. :thumbup:

Why should I intend to insult you? I said "I love you".
Do you feel insulted by being categorized according to your personal behaviour?
Then you might want to rethink or even change it, as no other can do this for you.

The message of Christ is not imperatively the word of the bible.
You know one from the other by your heart and brain and soul.

1 Peter 2:18
Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 10 Jun 2014 17:57 #47

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'?



For what reason did you put "Jesus" in inverted commas?


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 11 Jun 2014 13:49 #48

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For what reason did you put "Jesus" in inverted commas?

As you don't answer I have to guess that you did this because this is not his proper name?
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 11 Jun 2014 14:17 #49

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
.....
Addendum: This may explain something ...
I AM ALL I AM wrote:
thetruthcollector wrote:
Hello I AM ALL I AM...

...is it true that you used to be a police officer?

G'day Thetruthcollector.

Yes. Two years in the NSW police force, stationed at Parramatta, Sydney, 1988–1990.

G'day PFIZIPFEI.

Yes, it explains that I spent two years in the police force ... and ? :roll:

Interesting that you continue to focus on me personally instead of what is posted. :ponda:

Well, such is the case for those that are unable to present verifiable evidence for their claims, they resort to ad hominem.

Please keep posting, you are destroying your credibility beyond anything anyone else could achieve. Thank you. :thumbup:
Oh ..... so you're a Westie!!! :D

Were you outsmarted by people similar to those on Housos? It wouldn't be hard with you.

At least as a Westie you're not far from the Hillsong Church. You should go join the congregation!!

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 17:17 #50

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Hi guys, I'm new,

I just read thru this thread, as it was of importance to me - but didn't find anything helpful - what i did find was a lot of willy waving.

Truth-forum? try again... just another forum

I'm disappointed

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and right doing,

there is a field...

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 17:57 #51

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irongate wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new,

I just read thru this thread, as it was of importance to me - but didn't find anything helpful - what i did find was a lot of willy waving.

Truth-forum? try again... just another forum

I'm disappointed
IG
Don't go for a run yet ........... just give it a chance!!

I would be too :chuckle: ........ because, because.......... because!

Look at the next post & you may understand .......... the because, because ...... because!

I will skip this one post below; for better communication in such thread topic! ;) ;)

Just go Here:
https://truth-zone.net/forum/what-is-the-message-of-the-biblical-character-known-of-as-jesus 


And just watch what will happen now.......... very predictable at all times! :shitstorm:

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 18:20 #52

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Last Edit: 05 Nov 2014 19:17 Mario wrote:


If I were IG, this would be the icing on the cake to me.

:wissl:
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 18:37 #53

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irongate wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new,

I just read thru this thread, as it was of importance to me - but didn't find anything helpful - what i did find was a lot of willy waving.

Truth-forum? try again... just another forum

I'm disappointed
IG
Don't go for a run yet ........... just give it a chance!!

I would be too :chuckle: ........ because, because.......... because!


Try here ............ maybe something in there for you??
https://truth-zone.net/forum/anthropology/63796-alternative-views-spiritual-models-to-view-scriptural-issues-gnosis.html 


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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 18:59 #54

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THIS is the only kind of multiverse

To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 19:03 #55

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This thread might rightfully be renamed "How to successfully repel new members" now.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded. -- Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 19:30 #56

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irongate wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new,

I just read thru this thread, as it was of importance to me - but didn't find anything helpful -
Just ignore what does not relate! I even had to make me a permanent reminder in the Avatar to not forget! ;)

What would this mean to you??


These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke

and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.


             
1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.

For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."

5. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.

For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. [And there is nothing buried that will not be raised.]"

6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

8. And he said, "The person is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of little fish. Among them the wise fisherman discovered a fine large fish. He threw all the little fish back into the sea, and easily chose the large fish. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

9. Jesus said, "Look, the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on rock, and they didn't take root in the soil and didn't produce heads of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds and worms ate them. And others fell on good soil, and it produced a good crop: it yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure."

10. Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."

11. Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away.

The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive. When you are in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"

Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

13. Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like."

Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just messenger."

Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."

Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like."

Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended."

And he took him, and withdrew, and spoke three sayings to him. When Thomas came back to his friends they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"

Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the sayings he spoke to me, you will pick up rocks and stone me, and fire will come from the rocks and devour you."

14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.

When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them.

After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

15. Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father."

16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.

For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

17. Jesus said, "I will give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched, what has not arisen in the human heart."

18. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come?"

Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being.

If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

20. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what Heaven's kingdom is like."

He said to them, "It's like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

21. Mary said to Jesus, "What are your disciples like?"

He said, "They are like little children living in a field that is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Give us back our field.' They take off their clothes in front of them in order to give it back to them, and they return their field to them.

For this reason I say, if the owners of a house know that a thief is coming, they will be on guard before the thief arrives and will not let the thief break into their house (their domain) and steal their possessions.

As for you, then, be on guard against the world. Prepare yourselves with great strength, so the robbers can't find a way to get to you, for the trouble you expect will come.

Let there be among you a person who understands.

When the crop ripened, he came quickly carrying a sickle and harvested it. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

23. Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one from a thousand and two from ten thousand, and they will stand as a single one."

24. His disciples said, "Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it."

He said to them, "Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

25. Jesus said, "Love your friends like your own soul, protect them like the pupil of your eye."

26. Jesus said, "You see the sliver in your friend's eye, but you don't see the timber in your own eye. When you take the timber out of your own eye, then you will see well enough to remove the sliver from your friend's eye."

27. "If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father."

28. Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.

But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways."

29. Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.

Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

30. Jesus said, "Where there are three deities, they are divine. Where there are two or one, I am with that one."

31. Jesus said, "No prophet is welcome on his home turf; doctors don't cure those who know them."

32. Jesus said, "A city built on a high hill and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."

33. Jesus said, "What you will hear in your ear, in the other ear proclaim from your rooftops.

After all, no one lights a lamp and puts it under a basket, nor does one put it in a hidden place. Rather, one puts it on a lampstand so that all who come and go will see its light."

34. Jesus said, "If a blind person leads a blind person, both of them will fall into a hole."

35. Jesus said, "One can't enter a strong person's house and take it by force without tying his hands. Then one can loot his house."

36. Jesus said, "Do not fret, from morning to evening and from evening to morning, [about your food--what you're going to eat, or about your clothing--] what you are going to wear. [You're much better than the lilies, which neither card nor spin.

As for you, when you have no garment, what will you put on? Who might add to your stature? That very one will give you your garment.]"

37. His disciples said, "When will you appear to us, and when will we see you?"

Jesus said, "When you strip without being ashamed, and you take your clothes and put them under your feet like little children and trample them, then [you] will see the son of the living one and you will not be afraid."

38. Jesus said, "Often you have desired to hear these sayings that I am speaking to you, and you have no one else from whom to hear them. There will be days when you will seek me and you will not find me."

39. Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.

As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."

40. Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted apart from the Father. Since it is not strong, it will be pulled up by its root and will perish."

41. Jesus said, "Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have."

42. Jesus said, "Be passersby."

43. His disciples said to him, "Who are you to say these things to us?"

"You don't understand who I am from what I say to you.

Rather, you have become like the Judeans, for they love the tree but hate its fruit, or they love the fruit but hate the tree."

44. Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven."

45. Jesus said, "Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they yield no fruit.

Good persons produce good from what they've stored up; bad persons produce evil from the wickedness they've stored up in their hearts, and say evil things. For from the overflow of the heart they produce evil."

46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."

47. Jesus said, "A person cannot mount two horses or bend two bows.

And a slave cannot serve two masters, otherwise that slave will honor the one and offend the other.

Nobody drinks aged wine and immediately wants to drink young wine. Young wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into a new wineskin, or it might spoil.

An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, since it would create a tear."

48. Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move."

49. Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."

50. Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where have you come from?' say to them, 'We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image.'

If they say to you, 'Is it you?' say, 'We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father.'

If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

51. His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"

He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it."

52. His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you."

He said to them, "You have disregarded the living one who is in your presence, and have spoken of the dead."

53. His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision useful or not?"

He said to them, "If it were useful, their father would produce children already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become profitable in every respect."

54. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the poor, for to you belongs Heaven's kingdom."

55. Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate father and mother cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not hate brothers and sisters, and carry the cross as I do, will not be worthy of me."

56. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

57 Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a person who has [good] seed. His enemy came during the night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The person did not let the workers pull up the weeds, but said to them, 'No, otherwise you might go to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be conspicuous, and will be pulled up and burned."

58. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the person who has toiled and has found life."

59. Jesus said, "Look to the living one as long as you live, otherwise you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see."

60. He saw a Samaritan carrying a lamb and going to Judea. He said to his disciples, "that person ... around the lamb." They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it." He said to them, "He will not eat it while it is alive, but only after he has killed it and it has become a carcass."

They said, "Otherwise he can't do it."

He said to them, "So also with you, seek for yourselves a place for rest, or you might become a carcass and be eaten."

61. Jesus said, "Two will recline on a couch; one will die, one will live."

Salome said, "Who are you mister? You have climbed onto my couch and eaten from my table as if you are from someone."

Jesus said to her, "I am the one who comes from what is whole. I was granted from the things of my Father."

"I am your disciple."

"For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness."

62. Jesus said, "I disclose my mysteries to those [who are worthy] of [my] mysteries.

63 Jesus said, "There was a rich person who had a great deal of money. He said, 'I shall invest my money so that I may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouses with produce, that I may lack nothing.' These were the things he was thinking in his heart, but that very night he died. Anyone here with two ears had better listen!"

64. Jesus said, "A person was receiving guests. When he had prepared the dinner, he sent his slave to invite the guests.

The slave went to the first and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said, 'Some merchants owe me money; they are coming to me tonight. I have to go and give them instructions. Please excuse me from dinner.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master has invited you.' That one said to the slave, 'I have bought a house, and I have been called away for a day. I shall have no time.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said to the slave, 'My friend is to be married, and I am to arrange the banquet. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me from dinner.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said to the slave, 'I have bought an estate, and I am going to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me.'

The slave returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his slave, 'Go out on the streets and bring back whomever you find to have dinner.'

Buyers and merchants [will] not enter the places of my Father."

65. He said, "A [...] person owned a vineyard and rented it to some farmers, so they could work it and he could collect its crop from them. He sent his slave so the farmers would give him the vineyard's crop. They grabbed him, beat him, and almost killed him, and the slave returned and told his master. His master said, 'Perhaps he didn't know them.' He sent another slave, and the farmers beat that one as well. Then the master sent his son and said, 'Perhaps they'll show my son some respect.' Because the farmers knew that he was the heir to the vineyard, they grabbed him and killed him. Anyone here with two ears had better listen!"

66. Jesus said, "Show me the stone that the builders rejected: that is the keystone."


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114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

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What Is The Message Of The Biblical Character Known Of As 'Jesus'? 05 Nov 2014 19:31 #57

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HI again guys,

The message of Jesus (upon whom be peace) is the same message of all the prophets (peace be upon them all) who came before him .

Namely the following: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One. / And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’This is the first commandment. / And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark 12:29-31)

The rest is just detailing the morality of humanity, which is ingrained in our collective consciences but ignored because today we follow the material quest and neglect the spiritual reality of existence on this planet.

As for the verses I saw in the first page - regarding the "I come with sword" etc - they were taken out of context... the sword is the word of truth, al kawlu kawlu sawarim in Arabic.

That's all for now.

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irongate wrote:
HI again guys,
The message of Jesus (upon whom be peace) is the same message of all the prophets (peace be upon them all) who came before him .

Namely the following: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One. / And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’This is the first commandment. / And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark 12:29-31)

The rest is just detailing the morality of humanity, which is ingrained in our collective consciences but ignored because today we follow the material quest and neglect the spiritual reality of existence on this planet.

As for the verses I saw in the first page - regarding the "I come with sword" etc - they were taken out of context... the sword is the word of truth, al kawlu kawlu sawarim in Arabic.
That's all for now.
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Good to see you still around :thumbup: :thumbup: .................. It is not for nothing called truth-zone ........

There are many different truths here; so you got to pick the right zone you like & are interested in!

Yes most do take things out of context; because of ego, ignorance & self serving agenda reasons!
That's the only fight we all really facing which is our own ego & ignorance.
Once overcome the new life begins for the individual!
Those which searching within Wars, ex-leaders, present war mongering leaders pushing for Wars & physical fighting will never get to know themselves or the truth of themselves & others!

The Sword of The Spirit - The Word of the Father the true God
Eph 6:10-17 (NIV) ...Be strong in the Lord ▼life▲ and in his mighty power. Put on the full armour of God▼truth▲ so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, the "Half Makers" which are the "liars", against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armour of God▼truth▲, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled round your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Take the helmet of salvation and the Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of the Father the true God.

My personal understanding of these texts >>>

Sword = S -Word

S = Spirit

Word = Words of truth

S-Word = Spiritual Words


The double edge Sword:

One edge = Spirit

Second edge = Words of truth!

The interpretation of the texts by the Retards & big mouths on Earth >>
(Also called Reptilian mindsets)
As some are saying "My Mouth is My Sword" & act!

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I constantly wonder why don't you start a KABBALISTIC-CHRISTIAN-PSYCHO-FORUM with IAMALLIAM and HYPERTIGER, marioiram?

You would make a great triumvirate to save the tortured souls of dumb humankind right in time before the imminent end!

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Jesus messages

Wine is cool :cool:

Pharisees are spawn of Satan

Be nice to people

Unless they are shits

Turn the other cheek ......... hard one that...

Still, I am on side
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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