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Alternative views & Spiritual Models to view Scriptural Issues Gnosis 24 Jun 2014 05:34 #1

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by Noel Huntley
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Many of the concepts and understandings involved in this extraordinary event of the birth of ’Jesus Christ’ will be found too astounding to believe by most.

On the basis of our limiting and suppressive educational system this is unfortunately not surprising. What is not realized, though considered normal, is that modern man now has a mind structured quantitatively on objective knowledge (knowledge separate from self), forming a context-dependent mind, deficient in intuition and direct knowingness, which is experiential through the mind and spirit and is of the nature of beingness.

The more emphasis there is on objectivity and left-brain consciousness, the more separated are the elements of experience and thought (hence the emphasis on (3D) logic), requiring intellectual understanding only, and based on concrete external 3D-world phenomena only. Under these objective conditions experience actually becomes more unconscious as perceptive and mental data become representational (objective).

The spectrum of perception reduces to the lower end and paranormal experiences no longer form a natural part of everyday life.

Energy patterns of perception and understanding relating to qualities and higher perception are being filtered off and diverted, bringing about a programmed mind with fixed thinking and subject to thought control. An objective mind without the subjective link being recognized will simulate more a machine or robot.

A civilization operating on objective understanding only, will consider itself advanced, in particular, since nearly all its knowledge is at the objectively-provable level and anything outside this spectrum is not perceived and is considered nonexistent. Any knowledge outside this establishment territory is ignored or ridiculed. The inner-workings of life and true knowledge can be experiential with an expanded and balanced consciousness.

This dumbing down of qualitative perceptions, which are direct, and involve resonance and expansion of consciousness, prevents us today from detecting phenomena outside the objectively enforced band of frequencies, and common knowledge (from periods of ancient history), such as Earth portals, are not recognized today.

The Earth apparently has countless such electromagnetic or etheric gateways which lead to Inner Earth. This is not hollow Earth, but a frequency modulation zone between our Earth and its anti-universe pair, referred to as parallel Earth or antiparticle Earth, forming a separate ’Inner’ Earth.

The following is a brief and simplified account of the true birth of ’Jesus’, transmitted from the Guardians by Ashayana Deane.

The correct name for Jesus was ’Jesheua’, though religious historians will refer to ’Yesheua’ (or similar spelling). Apparently several letters of the Hebrew alphabet were changed, in particular, ’J’ was changed to ’Y’. Thus the original name of the spiritual avatar that we recognize by the name, Jesus, was ’Jesheua’.

Jesheua’s parents weren’t Joseph and Mary, as depicted in the Biblical version. This is apparently not a natural confusion but a deliberate fabrication to present a different story. Another priest by the similar sounding name ’Jeshewua’ but slightly different spelling, was born to Joseph and Mary, and furthermore this spiritual leader married Mary Magdeline, hence the rumor that it was Jesus.

These spiritual figures are distinguished thus:

The numbers signify their qualification in relationship to dimensions and DNA.
[Jeshewua-9 was of the Hyksos Illuminati lineage and was on a bio-regenesis rehabilitation contract under the supervision of the Guardians.]

Now any planned birth will be fulfilled through a complex program involving many beings.
This would be even more pronounced in the case of the birthing of an avatar and, in particular, on an important mission. On this occasion a group of six significant incarnations were arranged, including Jesheua-12, from higher realms.

These were called Eckars, three pairs of spiritual twins, denoting their ascended level of origin.
John the Baptist and his twin were the first to arrive. John in 46 BC and his twin Merigedra in 34 BC.

The second pair of Eckars were Immanuelle, 23 BC, and Ashridari, 14 BC.
Finally Jesheua-12 in 12 BC, and his twin Marahari (later changed to ’Mary’) earlier in 13 BC.

All were Indigos - probably all type-1 Indigo, who were dedicated to the Christos Re-alignment Mission.
Our calendar time system was not started at Jesheua’s birth but when he was 12 years old. This relates to the highly technical process by which an avatar soul incarnates into this density. This entity came from the 4th (frequency) density level of this sector of the galaxy, referred to as the Avatar level or Christos consciousness, and could not with safety (to the body’s physical structure) fully ’walk-in’ until the age of 12 years, whence the advanced DNA (fully intact requirement) was activated and integrated.

All six Eckars were carrying required codes (frequency patterns) in their DNA and blueprint, with the purpose of anchoring them into Earth’s blueprint and field system to align Earth’s energies in preparation for the next ascension cycle (Stellar Activation cycles) between the years 2000 and 2017. These three pairs of twins were known as the Eckatic Trinity and were related to the incarnated 144,000 Indigos during the Christ period.

The mere presence of these Indigos, down-stepped the Eckars’ frequencies for DNA compatibility of the human race.
On November 22, 12 BC, Jesheua-12 was born of natural conception to parents Jeudi and Joehius, Essene priests, in the home of Ben-Yumen (Benjamin in the Bible) on the outskirts of Bethlehem, where Jesheua and his mother Jeudi remained in hiding from Herod. Then on December 20 they took their child to their home in Bethlehem.

The three kings (three wise men) also played a significant role in the preparation of the avatar infant for a proper integration between DNA and consciousness. As stated, a complex procedure with specific developments was necessary, and it wasn’t until the age of 12 that the full 4th density being could enter the body.

The three kings, whose attendance at Jesheua’s birth was prophesized, were informed of their role and their assistance requested by an Inner-Earth being. The kings were from India, Tibet, and Egypt respectively. How did they travel such great distances? One of the major and hidden, guarded secrets in our modern society is the existence of many inner-space portals on Earth, which would reveal the presence of other civilizations and lead to universal Inner-Earth portals.

This is why explorers’ - such as Admiral Byrd - accounts have been suppressed.
The Inner-Earth visitor provided the kings with portal security access codes (frequency patterns, which either are inherent or are embedded in the DNA, or meditated upon visually or by oral sound, in the form of symbols resonant to the frequency patterns). This meant they could enter portals in their own country and exit a portal in Bethlehem a short time later.

This Inner-Earth being became known as ’The Way-Shower’, and the ’Shepherd of the Light’, and also ’Father Christmas’ from which the legends were built.

Unexpectedly the kings entrance into Bethlehem through the portal was spotted by Herod’s guards. This, combined with knowledge of the prophecy, endangered still further Jesheua’s whereabouts being found out by Herod. The three kings brought with them herbs, minerals and sacred preparations described in the biblical version as frankincense, myrrh and gold.

The ’gold’ was in fact a transmutation of the hard metal gold into gold powder, known as ’stardust blue’ or ’blue-powder gold’. This was a dried form of a powerful chemical called celestalline; a liquid secreted through the skin either during so-called ’stargate’ passage (major portals in Inner Earth requiring body transmutation to the dimensional frequency beyond) or at death of the body when of sufficient ascension status.

(Celestalline - Stardust Blue - White Powder Gold)

from Educate-Yourself Website

A natural transient (very short life) element. The ancient Egyptians try to find them in the substance called white gold powder, and also tried to manufacture it. The substance only appears during the process of natural biological Star Gate passage Ascension when the body transmutes temporarily into light and rides in the Celesteline wave and then it re-manifest on the other side. When the process of natural biological Star Gate passage happens the body leaves a powder (pale blue) residue - Celesteline - that was eagerly tried to collect in the ancient days in Egypt and also tried to chemically create it as a white or gold powder.

By the way, white powder gold and other type of mono-atomic substance that some are playing with these days and putting on the market as supplements they advance and accelerate the process of Molecular Compaction, so you know. What it does is that it radically stimulates the introduction of higher dimensional currents, but out of order and if your templates are damaged, without the D-12 Sub-harmonic carrier wave, you get a rush and feel better for a while your templates are eroding right underneath you.

It also creates a dependency of the body and in the long run your body gets sicker faster. You don't need to take artificial white powder gold, it is a trickery, since you have the ability to use your mind to run your body in a way that before long you will be able to manufacture your own Celesteline form inside out. Celesteline actually pops out in the DNA. It comes out in the Hydrogen bonds that link together the DNA spirals.

Those hydrogen molecules change in the process of cellular transmutation. That is the place where the element Celesteline that only activates for the purpose of bodily transmutation as part of the natural chemical process. (Phoenix 8-2002 Lectures. DVD 2 - Track 2. 29:00 Min ) Upon contact with oxygen, liquid Celestalline secretions dry to a fine powder, which rapidly breaks down into inert elemental units.

Celestalline powder is a natural bio-chemical by-product secreted by the body during Star Gate passage, or upon death of the physical body if the consciousness is able to achieve Star Gate ascension out of Density-1. Pure Celestalline powder can be collected in minute amounts gently dusting the skin after one has passed through a Star Gate and re-manifest on the other side. If it is rapidly collected and specially stored, pure Celestalline powder is a powerful healing agent as it can trigger temporary burst of 12-Strand DNA Template activation for anchoring and individual's D-12 Divine Blueprint.

In ancient Egypt impure Celestalline powder or its aged residue was harvested from corpses of mummies whenever discovered. Impure Celestalline powder, known as "White Powder Celestalline" or "White Powder Gold" was used by illuminati Pharaohs to trigger psychic powers by unnatural activation of higher strands of DNA Template; this process led to permanent disability of the lower DNA strands, physical addiction to the substance and eventually insanity.

Celestalline dries on contact with oxygen and eventually degenerates into white-powder gold.

Note that this white powder gold has apparently been rediscovered more recently and has been sold as a stimulant for the enhancement of consciousness. Unfortunately the ’high’ created by this white powder eventually results in mental and spiritual impairment and ultimately insanity, as the Pharaohs of Egypt and the Anunnaki ETs eventually found out after the latter created the Neanderthal-man race (see article on Neanderthal Man and the Illuminati) to mine for gold and infuse the white powder product into their atmosphere.

On rare and sacred occasions the ’stardust blue’ can be used safely and to advantage. A small quantity of the blue-powder gold was given to the infant and ingested to trigger a temporary burst of the 12-strand DNA for anchoring the Divine blue print. After Jesheua’s Regent Ordination, as it was called, there was still the imminent threat from Herod discovering the whereabouts of the baby, the three kings, and the Indigos.

The ’Way-Shower’ with the help of Ben-Yumen made preparations for the safe passage of the return of the kings to their homelands by camel and donkey from the house of Joehius in Bethlehem. Eleven-year old Immanuelle was given a drum and two drum-beat codes: ’safe passage’ and ’guard warning’ and positioned himself on watch by the stables.

When the grounds were clear of guards the ’safe passage’ signal enabled the kings to escape and with instructions from the Inner-Earth visitor to follow the ’brightest star’, which was a spacecraft, into the desert and await to be escorted to the Bethlehem portal.

The Inner-Earth being then returned to collect Immanuelle to safely return him to Ben-Yumen’s house. Further danger arose as the soldiers again appeared on the scene. Immanuelle drummed the ’guard warning’ to alert the returning Inner-Earth being, who in turn saw that the young boy was in danger of being found by the soldiers.

Immanuelle was vital to the mission; it was also essential none of the Indigos were located. In attempting to save Immanuelle the two of them found themselves in the stable surrounded by Herod’s men who set fire to the stables. In an attempt to protect the boy the Inner-Earth being placed him in a trough of water and lay down on top. Nevertheless the roof caved in and they both left their bodies.

A new plan had to be initiated for their reincarnation. In particular, Immanuelle had to reincarnate as soon as possible to fulfill his role in the mission. Meanwhile the three kings waited in the desert for their escort.

John the Baptist and Merigedra were next informed by further Inner-Earth beings that they would be ideal to serve as parents for Immanuelle. Unfortunately Merigedra was infertile. Both Merigedra and her twin, then her husband, dedicated to the mission, agreed that she must physically die and reincarnate in another body. Unfortunate as this was, it was carried through.

Several spiritual visitations were made by Immanuelle and the Inner Earth being, informing them of the new plan, which included Immanuelle’s rebirth, and further that the baby Jesheua would have to be taken to Inner Earth for safety until the age of 12. Also the three kings received a spiritual visitation in the desert from the Inner-Earth being who directed them to disguise themselves as beggars, and guided them to the Bethlehem portal, enabling them to return to their respective homelands.

Furthermore, Merigedra was given a cluster of golden-sage twigs by Immanuelle; a healing plant from Inner Earth and told to make a wreath like a golden crown.

On December 22, 12 BC the Indigo Eckars and family group met at Ben-Yumen’s for a celebration. This involved a fourth visitation from Immanuelle and the ’Way-shower’ It was on this occasion that the golden wreath was placed around the baby Jesheua’s head, and the ’Way-shower’, by placing his hand on the wreath, transmitted the access security codes of the Arc of the Covenant portal passage at Giza into the DNA of Jesheua.

This enabled Jesheua, when an adult, to conduct ascensions through the Arc of the Covenant in the Great Pyramid.

Six years after Merigedra left her body she was reborn to Jeudi, who had now married Ben-Yumen, Joehius having passed away and also Ben-Yumen’s wife. Merigedra returned in 5 BC as ’Miriam’ and in 10 AD was again married to John the Baptist. A year later Immanuelle was born, with the name Jeremiah-Immanuelle. The first part of the mission could now be completed.

This first objective, already mentioned, was to transmit the respective codes of the six Eckars into the Earth’s grid. Unfortunately this is a completely unfamiliar area to scientists and humans in general on this planet. Our current knowledge is inadequate to handle these technical procedures.

Also humans have to get used to new concepts; this is in addition to lack of understanding. Even 2000 years ago ’Jesus’ would have understood these mechanics and also the nature of the universe better than any scientist today, but not through equations or graphs, etc.); rewriting of history has been so thorough.

This transfer of codes into the Earth’s grid was achieved through the process of each individual, on separate occasions, being brought into the Arc of the Covenant - a portal bridge in the Great Pyramid. Thus by this means the codes within the Eckars’ DNAs were transmitted through the passage of the Arc of the Covenant into the Earth (see article on Arc of the Covenant).

The second part of the Eckars’ mission did not succeed. The aim was to cancel the program which activated the Nibiru Diodic Crystal under Stonehenge from Wormwood - a planet and relay station on the opposite orbit point of its controlling Anunnaki planet Nibiru, now approximately at is furthest point from us in the Pleiades system, with orbital period 3,600 years around our Sun.

To disconnect Wormwood required the team of Indigos to utilize special portal access tools and artifacts. Anunnaki, temporarily having defected to the Guardians, failed to carry out their promise of returning one of these (stolen by Thoth), referred to as CDT holographic plate 11, which was necessary for the task.

Stonehenge was apparently built over the Nibiru Diodic Crystal to block its energies, when the circle of stones were intact. This Anunnaki global implant system has partially been deactivated more recently.

Who was Jeshewua-9? He had ET ancestry which the Elohim didn’t want revealed to the human race and thus fabricated the ’Immaculate Conception’ story. Both parents of Jeshewua-9, Mary and Joseph, were Nephilims. Joseph’s father was part of the Jehovah entity, which was involved in the creation of an Anunnaki species and worked with the Elohim. (See the role Jeshewua played in the crucifixion of Christ in the article, Who was Jesus?)

It is interesting to note that the parents of Jesheua-12, Jeudi and Joehius, had different ancestral lineages. Joehius was descended from King Solomon, son of King David of the Hyksos Illuminati line and Solomon’s mother, Bathsheba, of the Indigo Grail line.

Thus the Indigo line was carried into the Hyksos Illuminati through Solomon for bio-regenesis of the fallen Hyksos lineage - deliberately planned by the overseeing Founders.


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by Noel Huntley, Ph.D.
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Most channellings assume Jesus was crucified, for example, so-called Ascended Master Hilarion has referred to some karma being alleviated by Jesus's death in this manner.

The Urantia book agrees with this and many other sources (though we may find these are dubious, biased sources). However, a few disagree. Seth stated that Jesus was not crucified, but that a deluded, drugged person, who believed he was Jesus, was crucified (and three persons were involved in the Christ image).

The books by Barbara Marciniak channeled from a Pleiadian group of collective beings assert that the Dark forces have advanced holography and sometimes put holographic inserts into our time track. They state that the crucifixion was such an insert--a very complex one involving a great deal of energy. They stated that Jesus was well accepted.

The ’convincing information comes from Anna Hayes' book, Voyagers II. It agrees with the Seth material. Past information from three persons were merged to form the Jesus story. The first one was a 12-strand DNA avatar (12-D) who came to restore the Sphere of Amenti, a spiritual gateway (Bible: the pearly gates of Heaven), and restore the integrity of the Hebrew genetic lineage (hence, 'the savior of the Jews').

The second person was a 9-D avatar, also a spiritual leader, but this one was in trouble with the Romans.

The Elohim, to distract the Romans, acquired a volunteer soul to make a sacrifice. The human lower-self of this soul (higher fractal level), named Arihabi, was programmed to think he was Jesus, and this is the one who was crucified. The resurrection (of the 9-D avatar) was played out using holographic technology. Arihabi, however, because of his sacrifice, was resurrected and lived for another 30 years. The 12-D avatar completed a successful mission and left the planet at the age of 39 via the bridge portal of the Arc of the Covenant (and Sphere of Amenti) in the Great Pyramid; he did not die.

Now we are left with the question, Who, or what is the Jesus image? Does it simply mean that Jesus is the product of the three personages of the "three Christs" story? Not necessarily.

This is the author's version of what the "Jesus" image is. The fallen ETs perceiving the true events of the "three Christs" scenario, decided to exploit these circumstances to add to their control agenda for the human population. They gradually, subliminally and by any means of infiltrating knowledge into society, programmed the population with the story that a spiritually advanced being called Jesus was crucified, who basically allowed this to happen to save man from his sins.

Thus there was an emphasis on the idea that man had sinned and must be guilty - and must continue to feel guilty.

Note that "guilt" is one of the ’ destructive emotions. In effect then, the fallen ETs had created an idea which was agreed upon by the masses, who by perpetual thought and prayer, in accordance with this scenario, created a thought form. A powerful mental construct --- an energy expressing all the implications of this false story: guilt, sadness, sin, but praise and worship to this imaginary figure Jesus, including all the great qualities associated with Jesus.

Further to this, degraded spiritual entities - consciousness fragments, subpersonalities, beings who no longer have a suitably structured vehicle (body)--- would merge with this thought form, strengthening it, and forming a still more powerful collective thought form. Such a thought form has a life of its own governed by its programming: the ideas, thoughts, information, which have been put into it.

These entities are attracted to the basic thought form (which the fallen ETs started) since they would experience all the praise and validation, sympathy, etc. from the religious population. This is a huge boost to their egos and, in particular, gives them a continuous supply of energy - the big problem with a decaying species (caused by negative actions).

The above explanations no doubt will be disturbing to devout christians.

But in fact, rationally, the explanation ought to be welcomed. Surely it would be great news to find that no spiritual being was crucified after all. In addition, it explains why some religious people become obsessed through some kind of realization as they tune into this powerful thought-form.

A further point is that 'Jesus' was not 'Christ'. Christ is not a person but refers to the Christos consciousness: the 4th frequency density level (4 groups of 3 dimensions) at 9D - 12D. This is the highest level prior to leaving the time matrix (of 12 dimensions) and thus is a particular target of the negative forces - to confuse individuals and to block this level.

Thus in truth all humans have this Christ level of consciousness (existing now) and consequently all have been 'crucified', or we can say that Christ was crucified but on this basis.


In spirituality, channeling is the communication of information by or through a person (the channel or medium), from a deity, spirit or other paranormal entity outside the mind (or self) of the channel.


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Effects on Humanity's Religions, Beliefs and Others
...Made by Manipulative Extraterrestrials
Revealing an Extraterrestrial presence by modern science and institutionalized
Christianity, would inspire a Gnostic-like awakening, including a re-appreciation
of the human identity in relation to God.
Indeed, ancient Gnostics appeared to view the God associated with the evolution
of Christian dogma as a "false God", created under the influence of what was referred
to as the Manipulative Extraterrestrials associated with the Old Testament, and other
religious systems cultivated by repressive Empires on Earth.
These reportedly include the Gods of pre-"Christian" Rome, and Egypt, and other such
religious-based oppressive Empires.

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately.
Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing,
are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something.
They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful,
so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive,
that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924)
28th President of the United States

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The Nag Hammadi Scriptures Alternative views & Spiritual Models 24 Jun 2014 07:03 #4

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What is Gnosticism?

“Gnosis” and “Gnosticism” are still rather arcane terms, though in the last two decades they have been increasingly encountered in the vocabulary of contemporary society. The word Gnosis derives from Greek and connotes "knowledge" or the "act of knowing". On first hearing, it is sometimes confused with another more common term of the same root but opposite sense: agnostic, literally "not knowing”. The Greek language differentiates between rational, propositional knowledge, and a distinct form of knowing obtained by experience or perception. It is this latter knowledge gained from interior comprehension and personal experience that constitutes gnosis.1

In the first century of the Christian era the term “Gnostic” came to denote a heterodox segment of the diverse new Christian community. Among early followers of Christ it appears there were groups who delineated themselves from the greater household of the Church by claiming not simply a belief in Christ and his message, but a "special witness" or revelatory experience of the divine. It was this experience or gnosis that set the true follower of Christ apart, so they asserted. Stephan Hoeller explains that these Christians held a "conviction that direct, personal and absolute knowledge of the authentic truths of existence is accessible to human beings, and, moreover, that the attainment of such knowledge must always constitute the supreme achievement of human life."2

What the "authentic truths of existence" affirmed by the Gnostics were will be briefly reviewed below, but first a historical overview of the early Church might be useful. In the initial century and a half of Christianity -- the period when we find first mention of "Gnostic" Christians -- no single acceptable format of Christian thought had yet been defined. During this formative period Gnosticism was one of many currents moving within the deep waters of the new religion. The ultimate course Christianity, and Western culture with it, would take was undecided at this early moment. Gnosticism was one of the seminal influences shaping that destiny.

That Gnosticism was, at least briefly, in the mainstream of Christianity is witnessed by the fact that one of its most influential teachers, Valentinus, may have been in consideration during the mid-second century for election as the Bishop of Rome.3 Born in Alexandria around 100 C.E., Valentinus distinguished himself at an early age as an extraordinary teacher and leader in the highly educated and diverse Alexandrian Christian community. In mid-life he migrated from Alexandria to the Church's evolving capital, Rome, where he played an active role in the public affairs of the Church. A prime characteristic of Gnostics was their claim to be keepers of sacred traditions, gospels, rituals, and successions – esoteric matters for which many Christians were either not properly prepared or simply not inclined. Valentinus, true to this Gnostic predilection, apparently professed to have received a special apostolic sanction through Theudas, a disciple and initiate of the Apostle Paul, and to be a custodian of doctrines and rituals neglected by what would become Christian orthodoxy.4 Though an influential member of the Roman church in the mid-second century, by the end of his life Valentinus had been forced from the public eye and branded a heretic by the developing orthodoxy Church.

While the historical and theological details are far too complex for proper explication here, the tide of history can be said to have turned against Gnosticism in the middle of the second century. No Gnostic after Valentinus would ever come so near prominence in the greater Church. Gnosticism's emphasis on personal experience, its continuing revelations and production of new scripture, its asceticism and paradoxically contrasting libertine postures, were all met with increasing suspicion. By 180 C.E. Irenaeus, bishop of Lyon, was publishing his first attacks on Gnosticism as heresy, a labor that would be continued with increasing vehemence by the church Fathers throughout the next century.

Orthodoxy Christianity was deeply and profoundly influenced by its struggles with Gnosticism in the second and third centuries. Formulations of many central traditions in Christian theology came as reflections and shadows of this confrontation with the Gnosis.5 But by the end of the fourth century the struggle was essentially over: the evolving ecclesia had added the force of political correctness to dogmatic denunciation, and with this sword so-called "heresy" was painfully cut from the Christian body. Gnosticism as a Christian tradition was largely eradicated, its remaining teachers ostracized, and its sacred books destroyed. All that remained for students seeking to understand Gnosticism in later centuries were the denunciations and fragments preserved in the patristic heresiologies. Or at least so it seemed until the mid-twentieth century.

Discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library

It was on a December day in the year of 1945, near the town of Nag Hammadi in Upper Egypt, that the course of Gnostic studies was radically renewed and forever changed. An Arab peasant, digging around a boulder in search of fertilizer for his fields, happened upon an old, rather large red earthenware jar. Hoping to have found a buried treasure, and with due hesitation and apprehension about the jinn who might attend such a hoard, he smashed the jar open. Inside he discovered no treasure and no genie, but instead books: more than a dozen old codices bound in golden brown leather.6 Little did he realize that he had found an extraordinary collection of ancient texts, manuscripts hidden a millennium and a half before -- probably by monks from the nearby monastery of St. Pachomius seeking to preserve them from a destruction ordered by the church as part of its violent expunging of heterodoxy and heresy.

How the Nag Hammadi manuscripts eventually passed into scholarly hands is a fascinating story too lengthy to relate here. But today, now over fifty years since being unearthed and more than two decades after final translation and publication in English as The Nag Hammadi Library, 7 their importance has become astoundingly clear: These thirteen papyrus codices containing fifty-two sacred texts are representatives of the long lost "Gnostic Gospels", a last extant testament of what orthodox Christianity perceived to be its most dangerous and insidious challenge, the feared opponent that the Church Fathers had reviled under many different names, but most commonly as Gnosticism. The discovery of the Nag Hammadi texts has fundamentally revised our understanding of both Gnosticism and the early Christian church.

Overview of Gnostic Teachings

What was it that these "knowers" knew? What made them such dangerous heretics? The complexities of Gnosticism are legion, making any generalizations wisely suspect. While several systems for defining and categorizing Gnosticism have been proposed over the years, none has gained any general acceptance.8 So with advance warning that this is most certainly not a definitive summary of Gnosticism and its many permutations, we will outline just four elements generally agreed to be characteristic of Gnostic thought.

The first essential characteristic of Gnosticism was introduced above: Gnosticism asserts that "direct, personal and absolute knowledge of the authentic truths of existence is accessible to human beings," and that the attainment of such knowledge is the supreme achievement of human life. Gnosis is not a rational, propositional, logical understanding, but a knowing acquired by experience. The Gnostics were not much interested in dogma or coherent, rational theology -- a fact that makes the study of Gnosticism particularly difficult for individuals with "bookkeeper mentalities. One simply cannot cipher up Gnosticism into syllogistic dogmatic affirmations. The Gnostics cherished the ongoing force of divine revelation--Gnosis was the creative experience of revelation, a rushing progression of understanding, and not a static creed. Carl Gustav Jung, the great Swiss psychologist and a life-long student of Gnosticism in its various historical permutations, affirms,

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The Nag Hammadi Library

The Hypostasis of the (Archons)

(The Reality of the Rulers)

Translated by Bentley Layton
On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle – referring to the "authorities of the darkness" – told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.

Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power,
"It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying,
"You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, "god of the blind."

His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power – that is, the blasphemy he had spoken – he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.

As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their weakness
since beings that merely possess a SOUL :thdown: cannot lay hold of those that possess a SPIRIT :thumbup:

for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will, she might bring the entirety into union with the light.

The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth." They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" – not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground. A voice came forth from incorruptibility for the assistance of Adam; and the rulers gathered together all the animals of the earth and all the birds of heaven and brought them in to Adam to see what Adam would call them, that he might give a name to each of the birds and all the beasts.

They took Adam and put him the garden, that he might cultivate it and keep watch over it. And the rulers issued a command to him, saying, "From every tree in the garden shall you eat;
yet from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat, nor touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die."

They [...] this. They do not understand what they have said to him; rather, by the father's will, they said this in such a way that he might (in fact) eat, and that Adam might <not> regard them as would a man of an exclusively material nature.

The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam." And he slept. – Now the deep sleep that they "caused to fall upon him, and he slept" is Ignorance. – They opened his side like a living woman. And they built up his side with some flesh in place of her, and Adam came to be endowed ONLY with soul.

And the spirit-endowed woman came to him and spoke with him, saying, "Arise, Adam." And when he saw her, he said, "It is you who have given me life; you will be called 'mother of the living'. – For it is she who is my mother. It is she who is the physician, and the woman, and she who has given birth."

My Note:
Take very careful note of the exact Wordings used here (& compare it with other given verses!!):

(Wording is very Important at all times!) >>>

Then the authorities came up to their Adam. And when they saw his female counterpart speaking with him, they became agitated with great agitation; and they became enamored of her. They said to one another, "Come, let us sow our seed in her," and they pursued her. And she laughed at them for their witlessness and their blindness; and in their clutches she became a tree, and left before them her shadowy reflection resembling herself; and they defiled it foully. – And they defiled the stamp of her voice, so that by the form they had modeled, together with their (own) image, they made themselves liable to condemnation.
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after OUR ( (own) image ) likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

Then the female spiritual principle came in the snake, the instructor; and it taught them, saying, "What did he say to you? Was it, 'From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet – from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat'?"

The carnal woman said, "Not only did he say 'Do not eat', but even 'Do not touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die.'"

And the snake, the instructor, said, "With death you shall not die; for it was out of jealousy that he said this to you. Rather your eyes shall open and you shall come to be like gods, recognizing evil and good.
" And the female instructing principle was taken away from the snake,
and she left it behind, merely a thing of the earth.
>> My note & conclusion:
(The Earth & Nature is the Spirit Power & Instructor ) >>> and there is much more if you can read it out of the text with your Spirit switched on & the philosophical aspect of the scriptwriters needs to be considered at all time throughout all of scripture; because it comes out of the 4D realm understanding ways!!

And the carnal woman took from the tree and ate; and she gave to her husband as well as herself; and these beings that possessed only a soul, ate. And their imperfection became apparent in their lack of knowledge; and they recognized that they were naked of the spiritual element, and took fig leaves and bound them upon their loins.

Then the chief ruler came; and he said, "Adam! Where are you?" – for he did not understand what had happened. And Adam said, "I heard your voice and was afraid because I was naked; and I hid."

The ruler said, "Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!"

Adam said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.

The woman said, "It was the snake that led me astray and I ate." They turned to the snake and cursed its shadowy reflection, [...] powerless, not comprehending that it was a form they themselves had modeled. From that day, the snake came to be under the curse of the authorities; until the all-powerful man was to come, that curse fell upon the snake.

They turned to their Adam and took him and expelled him from the garden along with his wife; for they have no blessing, since they too are beneath the curse. Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.

Now afterwards, she bore Cain, their son; and Cain cultivated the land. Thereupon he knew his wife; again becoming pregnant, she bore Abel; and Abel was a herdsman of sheep. Now Cain brought in from the crops of his field, but Abel brought in an offering (from) among his lambs. God looked upon the votive offerings of Abel; but he did not accept the votive offerings of Cain. And carnal Cain pursued Abel, his brother.

And God said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?"

He answered saying, "Am I, then, my brother's keeper?"

God said to Cain, "Listen! The voice of your brother's blood is crying up to me! You have sinned with your mouth. It will return to you: anyone who kills Cain will let loose seven vengeances, and you will exist groaning and trembling upon the earth."

And Adam knew his female counterpart Eve, and she became pregnant, and bore Seth to Adam. And she said, "I have borne another man through God, in place of Abel." Again Eve became pregnant, and she bore Norea. And she said, "He has begotten on me a virgin as an assistance for many generations of mankind." She is the virgin whom the forces did not defile.

Then mankind began to multiply and improve. The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deluge with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man to beast." But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to Noah, "Make yourself an ark from some wood that does not rot and hide in it - you and your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large – and set it upon Mount Sir."

Then Norea came to him, wanting to board the ark. And when he would not let her, she blew upon the ark and caused it to be consumed by fire. Again he made the ark, for a second time.

The rulers went to meet her, intending to lead her astray. Their supreme chief said to her, "Your mother Eve came to us." But Norea turned to them and said to them, "It is you who are the rulers of the darkness; you are accursed. And you did not know my mother; instead it was your female counterpart that you knew. For I am not your descendant; rather it is from the world above that I am come."

The arrogant ruler turned, with all his might, and his countenance came to be like (a) black [...]; he said to her presumptuously, "You must render service to us, as did also your mother Eve; for I have been given [...]." But Norea turned, with the might of [...]; and in a loud voice, she cried out up to the holy one, the God of the entirety, "Rescue me from the rulers of unrighteousness and save me from their clutches - forthwith!"

The (great) angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?"

Norea said, "Who are you?" The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her.

He said, "It is I who am Eleleth, sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit. I have been sent to speak with you and save you from the grasp of the lawless. And I shall teach you about your root."

(Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow. No, truly, my mouth cannot bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!

Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe."

But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities – how did they come into being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their force?"

And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.

Opening his eyes, he saw a vast quantity of matter without limit; and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And a voice came forth from above the realm of absolute power, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" – which is, 'god of the blind'.

And he said, "If any other thing exists before me, let it become visible to me!" And immediately Sophia stretched forth her finger and introduced light into matter; and she pursued it down to the region of chaos. And she returned up to her light; once again darkness [...] matter.

This ruler, by being androgynous, made himself a vast realm, an extent without limit. And he contemplated creating offspring for himself, and created for himself seven offspring, androgynous just like their parent. And he said to his offspring, "It is I who am god of the entirety."

And Zoe (Life), the daughter of Pistis Sophia, cried out and said to him, "You are mistaken, Sakla!" – for which the alternative name is Yaltabaoth. She breathed into his face, and her breath became a fiery angel for her; and that angel bound Yaldabaoth and cast him down into Tartaros below the abyss.

Now when his offspring Sabaoth saw the force of that angel, he repented and condemned his father and his mother, matter. He loathed her, but he sang songs of praise up to Sophia and her daughter Zoe. And Sophia and Zoe caught him up and gave him charge of the seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the forces, Sabaoth', since he is up above the forces of chaos, for Sophia established him.

Now when these (events) had come to pass, he made himself a huge four-faced chariot of cherubim, and infinitely many angels to act as ministers, and also harps and lyres. And Sophia took her daughter Zoe and had her sit upon his right to teach him about the things that exist in the eighth (heaven); and the angel of wrath she placed upon his left. Since that day, his right has been called 'life'; and the left has come to represent the unrighteousness of the realm of absolute power above. It was before your time that they came into being.

Now when Yaldabaoth saw him (Sabaoth) in this great splendor and at this height, he envied him; and the envy became an androgynous product, and this was the origin of envy. And envy engendered death; and death engendered his offspring and gave each of them charge of its heaven; and all the heavens of chaos became full of their multitudes. But it was by the will of the father of the entirety that they all came into being – after the pattern of all the things above – so that the sum of chaos might be attained.

"There, I have taught you about the pattern of the rulers; and the matter in which it was expressed; and their parent; and their universe."

But I said, "Sir, am I also from their matter?"

"You, together with your offspring, are from the primeval father; from above, out of the imperishable light, their souls are come. Thus the authorities cannot approach them, because of the spirit of truth present within them; and all who have become acquainted with this way exist deathless in the midst of dying mankind. Still, that sown element will not become known now. Instead, after three generations it will come to be known, and it has freed them from the bondage of the authorities' error."

Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"

He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent.

Then he will teach them about everything, and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.

Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element belongs.

Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their destruction, and their demons will lament their death.

Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit. They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety", and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy – holy – holy! Amen!'"

The Reality [Hypostasis] of the Rulers


God said to Cain,, recognizing evil and good.Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!

Exactly ..... So 1 + 1 = 2 ............... Who was Cain in the Story? ............. Well 1 + 1 = 2 still stays strong!
Spirit is a rebel against all lies & Evil

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The Archons >> One has to die & two will live TO BECOME ALIVE! > Gnosis 25 Jun 2014 21:47 #6

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Maybe the unexplainable is explainable after all !?

A Brief Summary

The Secret Tradition

The Fall

The Aeons who are manifested by the Son are conceived as having some degree of psychological independence. They lie within God but are separated from him by a Limit or boundary. As a result, they do not know the one who brought them into being. The Aeons sensed that they were incomplete and longed to know their origin.

This longing passed to Sophia (Wisdom), the youngest of the Aoens. On behalf of the whole Fullness, she took up the quest to know the supreme Parent. She attempted to know him by thinking alone, something that is impossible. As a result, she became separated from her consort and fell into a state of deficiency and suffering. Through the power of Limit, Sophia was divided in two. Her higher part was returned to her consort but her lower part was separated from the Fullness into a lower realm along with the deficiency and suffering. This lower realm is identical with the physical world.

Valentinians envisioned the universe as a series of concentric spheres. The innermost sphere is the world or deficiency where the lower Sophia was exiled. Enclosing this is the Fullness (pleroma) where the Aeons are. The Aeons are enclosed within the Son. The outermost sphere which encompasses the Son is where the Father (Depth and Silence) is. There is a boundary or Limit between God and the Fullness. There is a second boundary or Limit between the Fullness and the deficiency. Just as the Fullness is a product of the Godhead and lies within it, so also the realm of deficiency is a product of the Fullness and lies within it. The deficiency arose as result of ignorance and it will be dissolved through knowledge (gnosis).

Through the mediation of the Son, the Aeons within the Fullness were given knowledge (gnosis) of God and received rest. All of the Aeons then joined together in celebration and became completely integrated into the personality of the Son. The reintegrated Son is also called the Savior. He is destined to be the male partner or bridegroom of the fallen Sophia. He is surrounded by a retinue of angels who were brought forth in honor of the Aeons.

The lower Sophia, trapped in the realm of deficiency, continued to suffer the emotional torments of grief, fear and confusion. As a result of her ignorance, she was trapped in a state of illusion and was unable to distinguish what was real and what unreal. She underwent a conversion when she thought of the light and she began to plead for assistance. In response, her bridegroom, the Savior, and his retinue of angels descended through the Limit to her. Through knowledge (gnosis) of the eternal realm she was freed of illusion and suffering.

The lower Sophia rejoiced at the sight of the Savior and his retinue of angels, and brought forth spiritual seeds in their image. These seeds are the spiritual element present in every Christian. For this reason the seeds are referred to as the spiritual Church. Just as the Savior is the bridegroom of the lower Sophia, so also the angels will be the bridegrooms of the spiritual seeds at the end of time.

Three states of being or "substances" came into being from Sophia as a result of her quest to know God. First the illusion which characterizes material existence came from ignorance and suffering; it is personified as the Devil. Second came soul which comes from conversion as an intermediate stage between ignorance and knowledge. It is personified as the Craftsman (demiurge) who forms the material world. Last the spiritual seed came from her knowledge (gnosis) and is personified in the lower Sophia herself.

Despite the fact that the lower Sophia was no longer ignorant, the ignorance was not fully dissipated. The spiritual seeds were immature and needed training. For this purpose, the creation of the material world was necessary. The lower Sophia and the Savior secretly influenced the Craftsman to create the material world in the image of the Fullness.
The Craftsman (Ignorance) (Ego) (Arrogance) is ignorant = (Blinded Smart Ass) of his mother and thinks that he acts alone, but he unconsciously acts as her agent. ( It will awake all sleeping Spirits to kick Ass)

Yep; Makes all logical sense to me! >>> One has to die & two will live


But which ONE of the three has to DIE for the other TWO to live?

For me to know & you all to find out!! :P

1 + 1 + 1 (-1) = The TWO = Bingo! Jackpot

Human Beings

Human beings were created by the Craftsman. In addition to a physical body, Valentinians believed that people were composed of three non-corporeal elements: a demonic part (chous), a rational soul (psyche), and a spiritual seed (pneuma). Human beings were divided into three types depending on which of the three natures is dominant within them.
That is why Adam and Eve are described as having had three children who they named Cain, Abel and Seth.
They are the prototypes of carnal (choic), animate (psychic) and spiritual (pneumatic) human beings respectively.

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No believe is necessary because those which believe do not know! -- Spiritual Models to view Scriptural Issues Gnosis 09 Sep 2014 21:45 #7

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No believe is necessary because those which believe do not know![/b

Cinta wrote:
I believe in Jesus Christ as my Saviour not in the Talmud.
Therefore the Talmud has no power over me !
That's the way to go & think!

So if you one day manage to stop this believing thing you on the right path.

Make it happen know it & understand it for yourself!
The Jesus image thing is not a believing thing & never was ........ its a action & self implementation thing.

(325/326a) Someone who says "I believe," even if he spends a long time pretending, he will not prevail, but he will fall; as your heart is, (so) will be your life.

Jesus = Redemption = become your Spirit through self consent & understanding the truth of things!
Christ = is in all = second name surname given by the Father of all Spirits.

Same as the symbolic Seth = the Son of Men = the Redemption & Spirit of Men = the Son = the Savior = the Jesus image.

Its correct when the wise forefathers wrote .......
No one gets to the Father except through me; this counts for every single human on earth no matter what Religion organization they following!

The real meaning as I understand it .....
No one gets to the Father except through self redemption.
Once done the Spirit becomes you; & you become Spirit by presenting it in person.
Then the Spirit-Mind combination will reveal all the hidden things to you through seeking!

92. The Savior said, "Seek and you will find.
In the past, however, I did not tell you the things about which you asked me then. Now I am willing to tell them, but you are not seeking them."

Simple like 1 + 1 = 2 = You the (Soul) and your Spirit become two in One....... that is the one all looking for!

Prove in text form:
108. Jesus image symbolic reality, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

My understanding of this meaning:
He who understands what I truly represent & learns from it; I myself the Spirit become you, & all the hidden things will be revealed to you the Spirit Mind combination."

Now these things I have presented to you - I am Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, who is exalted above the heavens - O perfect and incorruptible ones, because of the incorruptible and perfect mystery and the ineffable one. But they think that we decreed them before the foundation of the world, in order that, when we emerge from the places of the world, we may present there the symbols of incorruption from the spiritual union unto knowledge. You do not know it, because the fleshly cloud overshadows you. But I alone am the friend of Sophia. I have been in the bosom of the father from the beginning, in the place of the sons of the truth, and the Greatness. Rest then with me, my fellow spirits and my brothers, forever.

Sophia = Wisdom
It is not possible for anyone to see anything of the things that actually exist unless he becomes like them. This is not the way with man in the world: he sees the sun without being a sun; and he sees the heaven and the earth and all other things, but he is not these things. This is quite in keeping with the truth. But you saw something of that place, and you became those things. You saw the Spirit, you became spirit. You saw Christ, you became Christ. You saw the Father, you shall become Father. So in this place you see everything and do not see yourself, but in that place you do see yourself - and what you see you shall become.

Faith receives, love gives. No one will be able to receive without faith. No one will be able to give without love. Because of this, in order that we may indeed receive, we believe, and in order that we may love, we give, since if one gives without love, he has no profit from what he has given. He who has received something other than the Lord is still a Hebrew.

The apostles who were before us had these names for him: "Jesus, the Nazorean, Messiah", that is, "Jesus, the Nazorean, the Christ". The last name is "Christ", the first is "Jesus", that in the middle is "the Nazarene". "Messiah" has two meanings, both "the Christ" and "the measured". "Jesus" in Hebrew is "the redemption". "Nazara" is "the Truth". "The Nazarene" then, is "the Truth". "Christ" [...] has been measured. "The Nazarene" and "Jesus" are they who have been measured.
The Lord said to the disciples, "[...] from every house. Bring into the house of the Father. But do not take (anything) in the house of the Father nor carry it off."

"Jesus" is a hidden name, "Christ" is a revealed name. For this reason "Jesus" is not particular to any language; rather he is always called by the name "Jesus". While as for "Christ", in Syriac it is "Messiah", in Greek it is "Christ". Certainly all the others have it according to their own language. "The Nazarene" is he who reveals what is hidden. Christ has everything in himself, whether man, or angel, or mystery, and the Father.

My Conclusion:
The physical birth of the Jesus name was actually his non physical death but in spiritual understanding terms; because Jesus image (the inner Son of Men) should never become a part of the Physical and should only reside within the individual in silence. (Jesus is a Hidden name)
Through this understanding & corrective active action process the Christ image implementation gets revealed to the outer = (Christ is a revealed name!) = The Father gets revealed = the Father is Truth reality = Truth is the Father image & you become his revealer which is the Christ being as in being like it through implementation of true things!

The day the people made the Jesus name a spoken about thing; the true meaning of the Jesus image died & lost its true origin & place!
The day the Jesus image becomes internal & becomes a totally silence thing which is a personal redemption process; the Jesus image gets resurrected within the individual & only the Christ like Father image(Truth) gets revealed towards the outer (Christ in motion through action) = the Father is revealed which is the Christ like being!

Seek and you will find & once you found it you will be free forever from all Fiat-Jew & Religious leaders lying stuff ever told!

No one ever nailed any Jesus image to any cross! Because its impossible to do so!
Redemption can not be nailed onto anything ............
but once you managed your personal redemption this sick World system with all there lies & liars gets nailed onto the cross because of your four directional knowledge of the reality & truth of things!!

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When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, -- Alternative views & Spiritual 18 Sep 2014 01:02 #8

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Oracle wrote:
Mario wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Du hast echt nicht mehr alle Latten am Zaun, du schaffst dir selbst Gegner, total unnötig. :iitm:

Wow how long I never heard that expression ............ :chuckle:

This happens if you abandon your Vaterland and chose to go the convenient path of running away.
Quite different from being easy or convenient & there is no where to run away too anyhow.

Its all controlled by the same bullsh@t all over this World.
At least this is what my traveling & working all over within this World showed me.

But when I noticed that the Father (Vater) lost his Mother I went out to search for it in the world .............
But no luck so far.

What is a child without having Father & Mother being together in one house for the child to have a good complete upbringing..

You see the Father lost his marble (Pearl); so I went out to search for it!

There is no more family union if the Father (Fatherland (das Vaterland) & the Mother (Motherland (das Mutterland ) are not together anymore.

That's how all there Children end up in lah, lah land because of the Fathers & Mothers separation.

So maybe the time has finally come for the Father & Mother to find each other again to have some prime time together once more!! :wissl:

When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

Listen to this Wise saying >>>>

Für das Vaterland stirbt man, im Mutterland lebt man!

For the Fatherland you die; in the Motherland you live!

Not just this but this brings you right back to the Scriptures & Words spoken by our Wise Forefathers .........

Died Once; Born Twice!

You die for the Fathers truth & you live with the Mother forever; which is the symbolic Earth & the Father inner Earth & so called true heavenly Kingdom realm.

Once you become of the inner (because you die for the truth) then the outer also will be preserved & looked after by default!

It all makes Logical, Spiritual, Philosophical & real life sense in so many different ways! >>>> AT LEAST TO ME!

Remember the true Fatherland (Vaterland) (Kingdom) is within.
"If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

Yes the inner is the Father & the outer is the Mother & life-giver!

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When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, -- Alternative views & Spiritual 18 Sep 2014 13:28 #9

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A civilization operating on objective understanding only, will consider itself advanced, in particular, since nearly all its knowledge is at the objectively-provable level and anything outside this spectrum is not perceived and is considered nonexistent. Any knowledge outside this establishment territory is ignored or ridiculed. The inner-workings of life and true knowledge can be experiential with an expanded and balanced consciousness.

I would argue 2 things here

1) We operate under the fog of deception, enforced by law. Proofs used are conjuring tricks. Objectivity is out the window for the time being if you want to get on in academia for example.

2) At its heart there is no separation between mind and soul, art and science are expressions of fundamental truth, otherwise they are fraud.
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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ABRAXAS -- Can't we all just get Along? ...... but is it really about WE ..... or you yourself? -- Alternative views & Spiritual 21 Sep 2014 06:37 #10

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Can't we all just get Along? .......... but is it really about WE ..... or you yourself?

Just think about it if this would ever happen forums & all mod jobs like this would become totally obsolete; because they would start to communicate in the real kingdom World once more.

Think how strong we could be ..... again its not about being strong against things ....... just understanding things & the number one has more strength & power than being Strong together.

Once all joined within; there would be nothing to fight against. No one you would use for your own gains.
What would many females do if this would happen?
No more reason to have the last word.
No more male cock head fight games!

No usury, using & abusing anymore.

Could people even be without such things?? Appears not after 6000 years of favorite sport games.

Male & female become one; with no more competition games ......... could you ever imagine such thing??

That's why they giving you the Football games & the Olympics and all the other toys so you can keep on fighting for or against something.

I can imagine such thing because I learned to live it for myself, but could anyone else ............ what about the female side?

Would the female give up her female side & her newly awarded male side competition tool?

Why cant we? ............
because the EGG heads in this World always need some they can make toast from; which guarantees there EGG and toast breakfast.

Even the content of the Movie clip is totally leader brain Jewish usury mind set.

My bottom line comment:

Never mind others non of my business ever; because I can not & don't like to control such thing ...............

I can spit & sh@t on you & its all not important and never was ..............

If people could only understand this reality.
Its not the fighting with others which is of importance .............
the day you fight your own self from inside out is the day you have awoken to the real deal & number one problem on earth.

Just try it as I can do & did it many times ................ Stay in your room for one month plus (the key number days is 40 Days in your own wilderness) & communicate with no one but yourself!

Could you? ................ My longest so far; was once three month & the last time four month on my own .. just me & more of me!
No alcohol & no drugs ever for me! ............... but I needed water, coffee a meal a day & a packet of smokes over a day or two and something to keep busy with but no physical contact with anyone out there except myself.

Try it & once you past the 40 day mark you will know & understand who Satan was all along!
And what the Father truly is, means & can do for you.

All you big mouth weak wimps & pimps of the world; just do it & don't freaking talk no more!

What does this symbolics in the image really tells you? .........
Cock head, the two dirty like feed Snakes in the shape of the Omega sign & now guiding individually the direction of the Horses into one joint direction.......... ;) :cool2:

Minimum of 40 days on your own & you may get it? ..........
Some unique images are like a billion words & a million books in one; once understood correctly!

Alfa head
beginning mind over mater & body

The End
of your body
the Omega feet now moving
together into the same joined path!

The letter number counts talk ....
All just coincidental ....... Maybe
or by design by our Forefathers
to prove there knowledge & wisdom
to all of us once we worked out there code talks?

ABRAXAS = 66 = 12 = 3 Trinity = ∆
CCLXX (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
ABYSS (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
ELEVELE (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
I MARY (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
THE GATE (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
SABAOTH (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
FREEDOM (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆
33RD DEGREE (66) = 12 = 3 = ∆


And here we go again & your master Club manipulators are back at work creating there fictive images ............
ABRAXAS to my understanding is (male & female) in one ................
but your masters again separating the two again to mislead you all & to screw with your heads; as always!

The real deal & meaning and the image on the left is a clear fake<<

The Basilidan doctrine of "Emanation" was greatly refined upon by Valentinus, whose muster-roll of the celestial hierarchy shall be given in its proper place. Suffice it here to observe that the entire theory resembles the Brahminical; for in that theogony each Manifestation of the One Supreme Being, regarded by the vulgar as a separate self-existing deity, has a female partner the exact counterpart of himself, through whom, as through an instrument, he exerts his power--to express which doctrine this other half is styled his Durga, "Active Virtue." This last name, "Virtue," actually figures in all the Gnostic lists of Emanations; and the great Æon, Pistis-Sophia, in her second "Confession" perpetually upbraids herself for having quitted her male Σύςυχος, partner, in her proper habitation, to go in quest of the Supernal Light: whilst she equally reproaches him for not descending into Chaos to her aid. The system of Dualism, in fact, pervades the whole of that wondrous revelation.

Their secret constitution however is known to but a few, perhaps to one in a thousand or two in ten thousand. The local situation of their 365 heavens they parcel out just like land-surveyors. Their doctrine is contained in a sacred book, and likewise in Symbolic Figures. The Supreme Lord, the Head of all things, they call Abrasax, which name contains the number 365."

So much virtue being involved in a perfect knowledge of the names of the Æons, it would be unpardonable not to subjoin them, as far as they can possibly be procured at present and, the following may be taken for their most authoritative roll-call, having been drawn up by Valentinus himself, the profoundest doctor of the Gnosis, and who had elaborated to the highest degree the system first sketched out by Basilides. He arranges there in pairs, male and female, in the order of their successive emanation from Bythos, the pre-existing, eternal Principle. The number of pairs is fifteen, or the sacred number Five three times repeated. Their names, it will be seen, are Hebrew words, the va preceding some of the female powers being merely the copulative "and." Matter supposes Valentinus to have been of Jewish origin, although born at Alexandria. Tertullian states that he was first of all a Platonist, then a convert to Christianity, but having been disappointed in his aspirations to a bishopric he founded a religion of his own.

1. Ampsiu, Ouraan = Depth, Silence.

2. Bucua, Thartun = Mind, Truth.

3. Ubucua, Thardedia = Reason, Life.

4. Metaxas, Artababa = Man, Church.

5. Udua, Casten Udu, Vacastene = Comforter, Faith.

6. Amphian, Essumen = Fatherly, Hope.

7. Vannanin, Lamer = Motherly, Charity.

8. Tarde, Athames = Eternal, Intelligence.

9. Susua, Allora = Light, Beatitude.

10. Bucidia, Damadarah = Eucharistic, Wisdom.
11. Allora, Dammo = Profundity, Mixture.
12. Oren, Lamaspechs = Unfading, Union.
13. Amphiphuls, Emphsboshbaud = Self-born, Temperance.
14. Assiouache, Belin = Only begotten, Unity.
15. Dexariche, Massemo = Immovable, Pleasure.

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What is it about the 6,000,000 number? -- Alternative views & Spiritual Models to view Scriptural Issues Gnosis 24 Sep 2014 04:29 #11

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Do we need to keep posting the 30+ year history of the zionist movement fabricating 6 million dead jews from various world events to provide the fabricated event and "fulfill torah prophecy"?

They lied. Those news paper articles exist. The proof of the lies exist abs many many know it.

The lie of the 6 million came up again in WWII .

No one will ever know how many jews or any other group of people died in WWII, but it was far less than 6 million Jews.
What is the scam about the 6,000,000 number being pushed over & over? ........
Or is there a totally different meaning to to be found in regards of the insiders?

I think we do because it appears that chuck just wants to talk about soap... :chuckle:

Yes, it has already been proven that the holocaust story didn't originate with World War II. The same scenario was played out many times previously and used to garnish support for Jews and their scams.

The “Six Million” Myth

“The First Holocaust” by Don Heddesheimer documents the continuous Jewish attempts at floating out Holocaust propaganda before, during and after World War One, often invoking the magical “6,000,000″ figure and using the term “Holocaust”. Of course, these clever propagandists have since accomplished their goal of establishing the outrageous myth of the Jewish Holocaust™ in the public consciousness following the end of WW2. In large part due to fictional Hollywood movies like “Shindler’s List”.

But I still did not really figure out why is this 6,000,000 number so important to them & gets used over and over again in a sort of fanatic fixed minded way!

What is the symbolic meaning to them ........... what fanatic magic do they see in it??

It has to be something? ............ Everything has a logical reason no matter how mad; or crazy it may appears..... Everything!!

Maybe this:

6,000,000 has the 6 & SIX zeros


Then they feeding the Masons only with half of there knowledge 66/2 - 33

So bottom line is that some of the Hebrew controllers & organizers having the full knowledge base as in the truth of the 66 Books.........

Then they split the two Book-sets (OT & NT) into two major groups giving the Christians side the NT & the OT knowledge to the Muslim/Jewish & all the other groups to work within there individual created Religious groups.

OT = the Evil God's doing
NT = The true Fathers truth

Its like splitting the symbolic knowledge Paradise garden into two groups. Each group only has half of the knowledge to work with.
Meaning by default both sides will never manage to figure out the real truth being only supplied with half of the Historical given knowledge.

Same symbolic as being kicked out of the garden so they can not get to the two trees of knowledge which explains both sides of the fence.
Only by using both sides of the given knowledge is any individual able to figure out the real truth of the past.......... Fact!

These Controllers or key rulers & there pimp helpers are not for nothing called being the HALF MAKERS!

They only transmitted to the Masons half of the knowledge base; trained them to be half makers as in 33 Degrees knowledge!
Therefore the Masons Club gang can only transmit to the public as much they knowing themselves which is half of the original knowledge base as in symbolic number 33.


Its just a logical theory I come up with; which makes logical sense to me & should connects to this 6,000,000 number by using it over and over in a sort of fanatic way & they not willing to change this symbolic number used ......... by trying to get into the mindsets of these Evil minded controller type & there fanatic symbolic thinking ways!

This is also called the Tree of knowledge ......... EVE(Zoe) tree of life ....
and I say the Controllers having this knowledge understanding & keeping this knowledge to themselves as in the full 66 Books knowledge base!
GENDER: Feminine ...... USAGE: English, Greek, Italian, Ancient Greek..... OTHER SCRIPTS: Ζωη (Greek)
PRONOUNCED: ZO-ee (English), DZO-e (Italian) [key]
Meaning & History
Means "life" in Greek. From early times it was adopted by Hellenized Jews as a translation of EVE. It was borne by two early Christian saints, one martyred under emperor Hadrian, the other martyred under Diocletian. The name was common in the Byzantine Empire, being borne by a ruling empress of the 11th century. As an English name, Zoe has only been in use since the 19th century. It has generally been more common among Eastern Christians (in various spellings).

Just look at it ...........
Why the Jewish used Menorah symbol joining the two sides of knowledge and gets symbolically fed with the oil(knowledge) of the two sides knowledge trees.
Only true insiders understanding this symbolism & its full meaning. I am convinced I'm getting closer to there overall secret keeping and strategy they used to mislead the public and the resulting World outcome.

I'm maybe on to something here & it fits logically in many ways???

6,000,000 has the 6 & SIX zeros = 66 = books of full knowledge!

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Sorry this is only for the advanced minds which are ready for it.

Not suitable for believers......... don't even try should you are a believer of this World system.

This is from A to Z ....... & needs Spiritual understanding all the way from A to Z.

The most detailed explanation I ever come across so far.

Reading it once is not enough I'm only 40% through it & it sound good to me and it has the references of the source text.


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THE HIDDEN NAMES OF THE FATHER REVEALED THROUGH THE SON -- Scriptural Issues Gnosis 27 Oct 2014 01:29 #13

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Very interesting............. all just coincidental :wissl: :nono: >> don't think there is anyone here being interested in these things!


- The Father’s ‘invisible’ name cannot be spoken, but is ‘revealed’ through the Son: “Now the name of the Father is the Son. It is he who first gave a name to the one who came forth from him, who was himself, and he begot him as a son. He gave him his name, which belonged to him; he is the one to whom belongs all that exists around him, the Father. His is the name; his is the Son. It is possible for him to be seen. The name, however, is invisible, because it alone is the mystery of the invisible, which comes to ears that are completely filled with it by him. For indeed, the Father's name is not spoken, but (rather,) it is apparent through a Son.”
(Gospel of Truth)

- In the Book of Jeu, the ‘true God’ is called ‘Jeu’ (from ‘Jesus’): “The true God will be called Jeu, the father of all the Jeus; his name in the tongue of my Father is this.” (First Book of Jeu) Note: ‘Jeu’ is a mistranslation, and should be rendered through the five vowels ‘i-e-o-u

- Parts of The Gospel of the Egyptians appear to be instructional texts or hymns sung aloud in preparation for the baptismal rite. In one baptismal hymn, the name IEOU appears as a long vowel sequence. Through these vowels, the spirit was breathed out to pronounce the unpronounceable name of the Father, as manifest in the name of the Son, iEou e aO:

“And the throne of his glory was established (...)
on which his unrevealable name
is inscribed, on the tablet [...]
the word,
the Father of the light of everything,
he who came forth from the silence,
while he rests in silence,
he whose name
is in an invisible symbol.
A hidden, invisible mystery came forth:


And in this way,
the three powers gave praise
to the great, invisible, unnameable,
virginal, uncallable Spirit”
(Gospel of the Egyptians)

- Following the Trimorphic Protennoia, ‘the three powers’ would be the Voice, Speech and Word, which express the pneuma ‘Spirit’ through the breath.

- According to Bentley, the long vowel sequences spell out the name of the Son, ‘iEou’, followed by ‘e’ meaning ‘five’ (the Son as the Fifth Light?), followed by ‘a’ for alpha, and ‘O’ for omega (the ‘alpha and omega’ as ‘the beginning and the end’). Through this formula, all seven Greek vowels are pronounced to ‘give praise’ to the ‘unnameable Spirit’.

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I only have one word set missing >> but not really because it is as is!.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii = 198 = 18 = 9 = ⊕⊗ = wholeness = fullness
THE FIRST FRUITS (198) = 18 = 9 = ⊕⊗
THE HEART IS THE PEARL (198) = 18 = 9 = ⊕⊗
THE TRUTH OF MARY (198) = 18 = 9 = ⊕⊗ = the Consort

COMING ALIVE (110) = 2 = ∏
LIVING ONCE (110) = 2 = ∏

oooooooooooooooooooooo = 330 = 6 = æ = Men

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu = 462 = 12 = 3 = ∆ = Trinity = Spirit = The Unnameable one

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee = 110 = 2 = ∏
COMING ALIVE (110) = 2 = ∏
LIVING ONCE (110) = 2 = ∏

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa = 22 = 4 = †
AJAIA (22) = 4 = † = Roseate Spoonbill = Phoenix bird = PLATALEA AJAJA
ARC (22) = 4 = †
FIG (22) = 4 = † = fig tree = eaten the fruits from the tree of knowledge
V (22) = 4 = † = five = (the Son as the Fifth Light?) = the center of the cross


I-E-O-U = 50 = 5 = ⊕†
HYLE (50) = 5 = † = In philosophy, hyle (matter or stuff)
SNAKE (50) = 5 = † = the Instructor
VINE (50) = 5 = †
45 [40]. Jesus says: "A vine shoot was planted outside the Father.
It did not grow strong: it will be plucked up from the root and it will perish."
In philosophy, hyle (/ˈhaɪliː/; from Ancient Greek: ὕλη) refers to matter or stuff. It can also be the material cause underlying a change in Aristotelian philosophy. The Greeks originally had no word for matter in general, as opposed to raw material suitable for some specific purpose or other, so Aristotle adapted the word for "wood" to this purpose.[1] The idea that everything physical is made of the same basic substance holds up well under modern science, although it may be thought of more in terms of energy or matter/energy.[2]

Roseate Spoonbill (Ajaia, Platalea Ajaja) = 11 + 11 = 22 = Phoenix bird

PHOENIX = 91 = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω
CREATURE (91) = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω
PLATALEA AJAJA (91) = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω
ELEVENTH (91) = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω
THE STAR (91) = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω
SPIRIT (91) = 10 = 1 = Å to Ω

Invasion of the PLATALEA AJAJA

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the Eagle
To me the image shows me the symbolic trinity aspect.

The Serpent, Snake, Dragon = the Knowledge & Wisdom the Mind = the Instructor of the below .... positioned at the top above the Man's bodies & soul.

The Eagle, the Bird, the Dove, the watching Eye = the one thing which overlooks all from the above; but is together & in contact with the Serpent, Snake, Dragon quality image. = Spirit being free from all Earthly things & out of reach to be touched by the below.

The Body, the flesh, the heart the man = The body container the one at the below = the Body & Soul of man

The top pointing Arrow = Shows the direction towards the Knowledge & Wisdom one = The motion, the power; the Will the direction towards its target = Up & Left looking at the Picture ; but from the Spiritual view point, looking at it from the Eagles Image position its the Up & the Right way!

The Eagles full body shape = the Cross symbolic = connecting all for directions = the Mind of Men, the Body & Soul of Men, the Knowledge & Wisdom & the Spiritual heavens.

Man is looking up high towards the Eagle to find the way & direction towards the Knowledge & Wisdom Instructor through the Spirits high level position which knows & sees the location & correct way of all things around.

The body is holding the arrows; but all being unused & pointing downwards being Earth bound; but the Head & eyes of man is looking upwards towards the Eagles freedom & high level position.

So the Body is the representation of a male ........ the Spirit is the all seeing eye of Eagle ....... one missing the female Serpent with the "Knowledge & Wisdom"
Yes the female symbolic is the Snake & Serpent .......... the male symbolic is power, will, action & directional motion ....... the flying in hight elevated realms is the Spirit & image of the Eagle or bird in general!

The Father = Spirit = the Father/Mother in one union
The Son = the Body & soul of men together with Father/Mother in one union
The Holy/Spirit = the Mother/Father in one union

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Five Seals, Five Pressures Stones, Five Pearls, No, 72, 144, 360 Powers, 720 Will Powers 30 Oct 2014 10:04 #15

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Pagan Origins of Islam
Worship at the Ka’aba
According to the hadith, the Ka'aba in Mecca was a center of idol-worship, with the Ka'aba housing 360 idols:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Masud: The Prophet entered Mecca and (at that time) there were three hundred-and-sixty idols around the Ka’aba. He started stabbing the idols with a stick he had in his hand and reciting: "Truth (Islam) has come and Falsehood (disbelief) has vanished."
Sahih Bukhari 3:43:658
Prophet Muhammad discarded the 360 idols but retained for Islam, the Ka’aba with its Black Stone, justifying it with the claim that Abraham and Ishmael originally constructed it. However, there is no historical or archaeological evidence for the existence of the Ka’aba beyond a few hundred years before Muhammad's lifetime. In fact, Muhammad's own words disprove any connection he was attempting to make between Abraham, Ishmael and the Ka’aba.

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the Jesus/image & Mohammad/image are the same image representation!
And are of the non physical image type!
Its people which are twisted in there minds & not the messengers or image!

Anyway in the end all will be sorted 72 will end up in the Fire only one reminds ..........
so take your pick & its coming from there own side knowing very clearly they having some bad boys & girls in there own town!!

73 Divisions in Islam and One True Jama'at

The Prophecy

Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) among many of his prophecies has mentioned, in one hadith, a prophecy which many of us have seen fulfilled in our life time. More than 1400 years ago, our beloved master, Muhammad (peace be upon him) made a prophecy in the following words [1] :

Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections
but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said,
"They are those who will be like me and my companions."

In this hadith there are quite a few things to be noted. Firstly, it mentions the resemblance of Muslim Ummah with the Israelites (i.e. Jews). In another hadith [2] this resemblance is mentioned in the words that as among the Jews a prophet was raised in every century among Muslims a reformer will be raised and as among the Jews at the end of the chain of prophets a Messiah was raised a Messiah will be raised among Muslims. Among Jews there were 12 tribes each divided into six sects making a total of 72 sects at the time when the Messiah (i.e. Jesus, AS) was sent to Israelites (A full list of the Jewish sects at the time of Jesus, peace be upon him, is included in Appendix I). After the appearance of the Messiah among Jewish people the list of sects increased considerably. So while talking about 73 divisions among Muslims and taking into account the resemblances of Muslim Ummah to the Jewish people mentioned in both of the above tradition, it appears that these two ahadith relate to the time of the Promised Messiah (AS).

They must had interpreted there writing & number meanings in the wrong way >>> many other religions done the same thing!

Also the symbolic Spiritual key number code (72) has another meaning as far I understand; but Islam did not work this one out yet!

And the Fire mentioned IS NOT a physical Fire ; but from within the individuals.
Same with all other Religions which all having the same origin in the beginning anyhow!
And where does the Stone & the No. of 360 idols relationship fits into the game ..... look inside the Spoiler its all there>>>

In spoiler all about the Stone ...... "The Five Seals, The Five Pressures Stones, The Five Pearls," & the No. 72, 144, 360, 720

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Click to Expand to view details on the (72)                           → [ Click to expand ]

Also I can explain the mystery how the Sun will start to rise from the West on the End of times in Spiritual understanding terms!
But again the Islamic side did not work this one out yet either!


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This is my vision........ & I can not understand that these Christians never worked this on out & what's about the Vatican lot??
Now I clearly give the big fingers to this Idiot pointing his dirty finger << fools day is over Idiot!
These symbolic images are all of the exact same representations; all of them >>
I love solving Mystery's; just have one of my apples out of my garden too!

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these Stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

66. Jesus said, "Show me The Stone that the builders rejected: that is the keystone."
___________________ The Stones
Word starts with "S" as in the representation of >>
The Snake
The Serpent
The Savior
The Spirit
The Salvation = Sealed      X

What is the Holy Eucharist?

158. Which are the five initiatory sacraments?
The five initiatory sacraments (as explicitly stated in the Gospel of Philip) are: Baptism, Chrism (Confirmation), Holy Eucharist, Redemption and Bride-Chamber.

162. How many sacraments do the exoteric churches administer?
The Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican exoteric churches administer seven sacraments, to wit: Baptism, Confirmation (Chrismation), Holy Eucharist, Penance, Extreme Unction, Holy Orders and Matrimony. Many Protestant bodies have reduced the number of sacraments further. All of the exoteric churches have suppressed and forgotten the two greater sacraments of the Redemption and the Bride-Chamber.

174. What is a person to do after receiving the sacrament of Baptism?
A baptized person should participate diligently in sacred practices, particularly the Holy Eucharist. Such a person should also continue to study the sacred literature of the Gnosis.

180. What is the Holy Eucharist?
In the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ and are then received into the human organism. This sacrament unites us in a very special way with Christ the Savior and through Him with the Fullness (PLEROMA).

181. Is it the physical body and blood of Christ that we partake of in the Holy Eucharist?
No. It is His spiritual (PNEUMATIC) body and blood that we partake of under the appearance of the bread and wine.

182. How can the spiritual (PNEUMATIC) body and blood of Christ take on the appearance of the bread and wine?
Through the sacred phenomenon of Transubstantiation or Transelementation , which is brought about by the Holy Spirit.

183. Who instituted the Holy Eucharist?
Christ instituted the Holy Eucharist at the Last Supper, the night of Maundy Thursday. When He said, "This is My Body", the entire substance of the bread changed into His spiritual (PNEUMATIC) body, and when He said "This is My Blood", the entire substance of the wine was changed into His spiritual (PNEUMATIC) blood.

184. How is the Holy Eucharist of Christ perpetuated?
Christ said: "Do this in remembrance of me" and therefore His representative, the duly ordained priest, repeats Christ's Eucharistic sacrifice within the context of the ritual of the Mass.

185. Is the Mass called the Holy Eucharist?
Yes, both the ritual of the Mass and the sacred substance of the consecrated bread and wine are usually referred to as the Holy Eucharist.

186. What did the Gnostic Church at times call the Holy Eucharist?
It was called the Ineffable Mystery.

187. Should we be frequent participants in the Ineffable Mystery of the Holy Eucharist?
Yes, for not to take advantage of this great gift would be to scorn the words of Christ the Savior (SOTER): "If you do not eat of my flesh and if you do not drink of my blood, you will have no true life in you".

188. How is one to prepare oneself for the reception of the Holy Eucharist?
By prayer and sincere contrition that purifies one of the stain of faults and unworthiness. Otherwise, in the words of St. Paul, we eat and drink our own judgment and condemnation.

Tree 1) Baptism ...... [Seal 1]
Tree 2) Anointing ...... [Seal 2]
Tree 3) Redemption ...... [Seal 3]
Tree 4) Eucharist ...... [Seal 4]
Tree 5) Bridal Chamber ...... [Seal 5]

Holy Eucharist & Five Seals >>>> [ Click to expand ]

JHS = Jesus Holy Spirit ...... IHS = Implemented Holy Spirit

Jesus Has Crucified Satan I Have Crucified Satan

IHS (sometimes JHS) is a monogram of the name of Jesus Christ.

Oh God !, that you set your only begotten Son to be the Savior of the world and Jesus was called; grant in heaven enjoying favorable view of him whose holy name we venerate on earth. (Opening Prayer of the Mass of the day)

The church reveals the greatness of the Incarnate to sing the glories of his name Word.

In the name of Jesus means Savior. A San Jose has shown it to an angel in a dream (Matthew 1: 21) and the Blessed Virgin the Archangel Gabriel at the time of the Annunciation (Luke 1: 32-33).

The institution of the feast of the Holy Name of Jesus is relatively recent. Its origins can be searched in the Franciscan Order; devotion and preaching of St. Bernardine of Siena greatly contributed to its spread. The extended to the universal Church by Pope Innocent XIII, in 1721.

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Why have so many Christians come to assume that it was by His physical death that Jesus saved humankind? 01 Nov 2014 18:53 #17

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So Jesus was born and lived at least 4 years before BC ended, the time before his birth :dunno:
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As long people only playing within there self limiting physical reality ability ONLY; they will never work it out what is true & what is false.

Physical reality ONLY can not ever grasp the greater realities which are 100% spiritual in nature.

The Jesus/image true meaning is not something which is born like you and me & always needs another self excepting host (Body, Soul being) to do so.
If there is no body where this (Jesus/image) can manifest; means there can be no birth of it. (hence: the Son of Men)

Also the Jesus/image reality is a individual (Body, Soul, Mind, Spirit) combination/manifestation & not a group minded reality or a date on some man made calender system.

This (Jesus/image birth) & Christ emanation implementation result is a constant process within many individuals (ever growing) & is already going on for aeon's .........

The real non physical inner Spiritual first ever (Jesus/image) reality was at the time when the first Human being had this Spiritual realization in silence.

There is no fixed date ever which will be known; because it was for starters a silent reality within the individual whoever it was in the past & way, way before the (Christ/image) like implementation was revealed & came to be light; through implementation itself & through the first ever enlightened individual Human being on Earth.

The first ever acceptance of the image on Earth was the real starting date of its so called birth & will never be known because it was & is a silent process & always will be this way!

The first appearance of the (Adam, Eve, Seth) story expose is the first record of this process being revealed in written form. But the real deal was still way before this story came to light in the public arena.

The (Jesus/image) reality birth was way before the (Christ/image) came to be ... to my understanding of this reality process!

Always try to understand this reality:
The (Jesus/image) in silence
the (Christ/image revealed implementation) are not the same item or thing;
(like as in Father & Son); but works as one united manifestation; because one reality is depending on the other to ever manifest in the first place.
"No one can get to the Father; except through me!"
Also both processes are depending on a host (Body, Soul) which excepts one item first on a personal level to manifest the second part which always come in a set of two (but are really many more silent items) which makes the fourth one reveal itself = the Christ like being as in being it in form of implementation inspirited through the inner silent once.

What I have written & explained above is not written anywhere in this way because they are my personal wordings to make sense of it all & are on a personal individual IeveI of understanding.

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79. Why have so many Christians come to assume that it was by His physical death that Jesus saved humankind?

Because many of them possess a consciousness that appreciates only physical reality and
ignores the greater realities which are spiritual.

Maybe this text is very hard to grasp for most indoctrinated only physically thinking beings; but makes 100% sense to me personally & tells me something very, very clearly in regards of your real date searching activity.
77. Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained.

Split a piece of wood; I am there.

Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

Where the Spirit is there is also the (Jesus/image) .............. When was this date & time line? .......
My answer: the day the first person ever turned a stone with his Spirit being activated & splitted a piece of wood with his Spirit being activated!

Also called .... Amen, A-Men ........... A true Men was born! Spirit & Man united into one being & will result in the Christ/image being revealed in later stage of this Spirit being which also needs time to grow to overflow its developed Wisdom!

So the day some-once Wisdom overflowed in the past history of human kind into the Worldly arena; was the true date the Christ like being image was revealed & had to be way after the so called (Jesus/image) was excepted by the individual (Body, Soul being) = (the symbolic Virgin Birth of the Spirit)

The story is as old as (Melchizedek) & The Gospel of the Egyptians [ Click to expand ]

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No Country or Flags or Idols for me ever -- Scriptural Issues Gnosis 03 Nov 2014 20:59 #18

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Cinta wrote: No Country, Flags, Man or Idols for me ever ................ :nono: :noway:

>> and you the Spirit & Truth!

To follow a Country or place would make the place your Idol ........... !
110. The Savior said, "Let one who has found the world, and has become wealthy, renounce the world."
Where your Heart is there is also your Love & Soul.

But the Spirit is your true "YOU" & the Spirit you should Love.
47. The Savior said, "A person cannot mount two horses or bend two bows.

"If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father.
But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

Father = Truth.
Truth = the Son.
Son = the You.
You = the Spirit.
Spirit = the Truth within You = the Father came full circle.......

108. The Savior said,
"Whoever drinks from my mouth & listenswill become& talk like me; I myselfthe Spiritshall become that personin Spirit, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

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I am the utterance of my words; which is my true Name & is Truth! 05 Nov 2014 13:16 #19

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Nice try Mario, but the "bible" is thought to be a hoax written by a Jewish forger in the Middle Ages. Not like a Jew to lie, shit stir about Christianity and try and make money out of the scam as well is it?
Calls 1500-Year-Old Bible With Claim Jesus Was Not Crucified ‘A Probable Forgery’: Is It Authentic Or Not? [POLL]
By Donovan Longo | May 08 2014, 01:00PM EDT

Recent reports have revealed the discovery of a 1500-year-old bible in Turkey. However a new article from the Vatican Insider of "La Stampa" claims that the 1500-year-old bible is a "probable forgery" and "hoax." .

Even so it is irrelevant in so many ways; but I love the word use in your counter memo!

Note the Words used ;) .........
So original (Its like a photo copy of most responses here on the Forum ) >> Hint: Hollow Earth; we live inside the Earth! >>>
"probable forgery"
“La Stampa,” claims that the book is a “hoax.”
Claiming the work to be an “extraordinary hoax”
would have been unlikely when creating the Gospel of Barnabas.

Due to this fact, many followers of Islam believe the Vatican Library repressed the original work.

Love it! ........... & I love the truth!

The wording used to counter this find; reminds me on the word "Belief" ..........
>>> back to the herd flock & "believe" !
Don't ever think or change >>> & don't change what we have created for you!          :wissl: :chuckle:

You got to love it how easily believers are fooled with just words spoken by there leaders! >>
Real deal God/Father = Words >> False God = spoken Words!

And non of there wording ever making any point ever .............
the real Politics >> "believing" all Politics are based on it = "believes" >> fight anything which does not fit into "believes"!

All "believes" & all rhetorics are the enemy of all Truth! (Fact!)

The Pope & Vatican should be a Hoax too after there statement in May?............ so why "believers" following the Vatican Hoaxers ........... I tell you; because of blind "believes" which was the first original hoax & scam ever invented!

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One of the wise men's text left for humanity to be understood:
(325/326a) Someone who says "I believe," even if he spends a long time pretending, he will not prevail, but he will fall; as your heart is, (so) will be your life.

What a freaking Mary go around with ALL types of "believers" .......... & its so boring! >> Never waking up to reality for thousands of years!

Where there are "believers" there is no room for any truth! .......... Satan's/image original!

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Number 333 Symbolism and Meaning

Transistion, Change, Travel

To awake (physically or spiritually)

Bible Verses
There are a handful of passages related to sound. Sound travels.>> (Note on the end of post)

Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise. Psalms 33:3

Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. Jeremiah 33:3

Ezekiel 33:3
If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; =Cross

At the noise of the tumult the people fled; at the lifting up of thyself the nations were scattered. Isaiah 33:3

The Sun's mass is 333,000 times that of the Earth (NASA Sun Fact Sheet).

The number 333 is increasingly associated with the year 2012 and the completion of the current Mayan Baktun; a cycle of 144,000 days. The present Baktun is the 13th and is said to end on 12/21/12 which reduces down to 3/3/3. This will have concluded a Mayan Long Count of ~5,129 years and the setting of the 4th world according to the Popol Vuh.

The Hebrew שלג is translated as "snow" and is transliterated as sheleg. Snow is a transitional form of water and signals the changing of seasons. See Job 24:19 and Proverbs 25:13-14.

The Hebrew כָּל חַדְרֵי בָטֶן is roughly translated as "the whole interior of the body" and is transliterated as kol cheder beten. This structure is found in Proverbs 20:27 where it describes the revealing nature of the spirit.

The Hebrew לְךָ אָמַר לִבִּי is translated as "my heart said to you" and is transliterated as lecha amar leb. This structure is found in Psalms 27:8 where it commands one to seek the face of God (see Isaiah 59:2, Psalms 27:9, Psalms 80:3, 2 Corinthians 4:2-6).

The Hebrew בְּיֹ֪ום רָ֫עָ֥ה is translated as "day of trouble" and is transliterated as yom ra'. See Psalms 27:5 and Jeremiah 51:2.

The Hebrew כְּר֣וּב הַסֹּכֵ֔ךְ is translated as "covering cherub" and is transliterated as cakak kerub. The covering cherub is cast down in Ezekiel 28:16-17. For a more in depth discussion of Ezekiel 28 see Lucifer Has Fallen. :thumbup:

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The speed of sound waves in air is 333 m/s = Words Spoken :cool:
Well as they all saying .......... its a Spiritual War being played in all level's ....... of 's.

I am the utterance of my words; which is my true Name & is Truth!

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Did Jesus and Mary Marry and Have Children? -- Scriptural Issues Gnosis 05 Nov 2014 17:07 #20

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Did Jesus and Mary Marry and Have Children?

Who would have thought that such a simple question would raise such a controversy and even be taken seriously? To answer this one we need to break it down.

Firstly, if Jesus married Mary Magdalene then we have to admit that Jesus and Mary existed in the first place. Although we have a substantial amount of textual evidence for these biblical characters, this is due to the sheer amount of copying being carried out hundreds of years after the supposed event. We have no actual texts naming either character from the period; most of the texts date to hundreds of years after.

Even if we do admit that these people were real, then we would have to admit that Jesus did walk on water, cast out demons into pigs, and die and resurrect. That, or we would have another option: That the character of Jesus, just like that of Robin Hood and King Arthur, was based upon a real man somewhere, and all the extra mythical and mystical elements were added into the story. Just as Robin married Marion (Mary), and Arthur married Guinevere, so too in this mythical way, Jesus may have married Mary - even though there is no textual evidence for this.

Marion and Mary are the same and imply water and wisdom. Guinevere comes from similar roots, especially as the queen of heaven, which was a title for Mary the mother of Jesus and Isis the mother of Horus. And, as many scholars have pointed out, the two Marys may be amalgamations of a much older myth.

Guinevere is also the queen of serpents and, therefore, knowledge and wisdom, and her name is related in etymology to Eve, which means female serpent and is an indication of wisdom.

Just as the early Christian Church was forming groups such as the Gnostic Ophites or serpent worshippers, raising their communion cup to the good serpent, they were also splitting the threefold mother goddess - Mary - into distinct parts. First the Mother Mary, then the Sister Mary, and then Mary Magdalene, a mysterious element, and we shall see why.

Mary the mother is Isis the mother of Horus. As Horus is the son and in fact reincarnation of Osiris, so Isis or Mary is also his sister and lover. She is all three, the feminine trinity. Mary Magdalene therefore is the hidden lover of Jesus who is both God and the son of God, just like Horus. And all of this mystery tradition relates back to the ancient serpent cult, as Isis, Osiris, and Horus had strong associations with the creative, wise, and immortal serpent.

Jesus was eventually likened to the Mosaic “brazen serpent in the wilderness” and imaged hundreds of times as a serpent upon the cross. Here we have that parallel with Arthur, whose name, Pendragon, means “head serpent” or “head of the serpent.”

Now we can see with just these few examples that there is a real code afoot - an ancient code going right back into ancient Egypt and beyond, through Osiris and Isis and to Enki and Ninkhursag in Sumeria and Mesopotamia, who were known themselves as serpent priests or doctors.

But what is this code telling us?

Simply that in order to give birth to our own messiah or anointing, or in order to save ourselves, we need to be in union with wisdom, which is symbolized as both water and the serpent - hence Arthur Pendragon and his wife the queen of serpents, or the early Enki and Ninkhursag, who were serpent deities or Shining Ones and were therefore symbols of enlightenment.

As God was upon the face of the waters of the deep in Genesis, so too must we submerge ourselves in wisdom to bring about the divine creation within us.

So, now we understand that Jesus and Mary, in union, could be a metaphor or a copy of this ancient system. But what are we left with?

There are characters such as Yeshua who, it seems, may have been a real character of the 1st century or thereabouts, and who did preach a new Gnosis. But, there was also Apollonius of Tyana.

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