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TOPIC: Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression?

Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 18 Oct 2014 12:59 #21

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Timesarrow wrote:
Heterosexuals permanently bond to each other and raise their children within that bond. They don't just father them and then leg it to have sex with someone else.

Unless they are black

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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SEXIST ? 19 Nov 2014 09:49 #22

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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AGGRESSIVE FEMINISM = ANARCHISM 22 Dec 2014 11:21 #23

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Timesarrow wrote:
There were a lot of threads with this sort of title started on the Unmentionable Place, and they often used to get closed or descend into ranting, as they were either started or soon taken over by angry MRA misogynist types who were very embittered about women. So before we go any further, let's make it abundantly clear that I'm not an MRA or a misogynist or even a man.

However, I do have some issues with feminism that I would like to throw out to the forum as worthy of discussion.

I don't think feminism has ever been about liberating women, because it has never been about celebrating or encouraging what is specific to women or what comes more naturally to them, but rather about turning them into men.

Note it hinges around concentrating on education so women can get a good career, make a lot of money and be independent, as well as go out drinking and sleep around with no consequences. These have always been the preserves of men. Feminism seems to consider women in their natural state to be weak and worthy of contempt, and only has respect for them the more they ape (some of the worst aspects of) male behaviour.

I'm not sure how it has "empowered" women to spend decades in useless education focusing on a having a "fulfilling career" when only a tiny minority of people in the world, male or female, find fulfilment in their paid work and most people find work stressful and draining.

Also encouraging women to sleep around, "experiment with sex", to see no problem in casual sexual relationships or one-night stands, when this goes completely against hard-wired female biology and has left many millions of women with deep psychological and emotional scars (not to mention STDs and unwanted pregnancies).

I know people say "oh, but feminism gave women the vote!!!" - but really, does this matter an iota? So women now have the right to vote for one meaningless puppet over another, great. And it also suggests that all men were always able to vote while women weren't, which wasn't the case at all.

So, feminism - friend or foe, liberator or oppressor?

This short video is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but highlights many important truths about feminism I think:

"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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AGGRESSIVE FEMINISM = ANARCHISM 17 May 2015 08:58 #24

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Speech given by Bowden on the topic of the more radical tendencies of the feminist movement at the London Forum
on September 24, 2011.
Transcript www.counter-currents.com/2015/01/lilith-before-eve-transcript/


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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 28 May 2015 22:29 #25

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Timesarrow wrote:
Note it hinges around concentrating on education so women can get a good career, make a lot of money and be independent, as well as go out drinking and sleep around with no consequences. These have always been the preserves of men.
But if sleeping around with no consequences is preserved to men when who can these men sleep around with? Other men?

Timesarrow wrote:
I'm not sure how it has "empowered" women to spend decades in useless education focusing on a having a "fulfilling career" when only a tiny minority of people in the world, male or female, find fulfilment in their paid work and most people find work stressful and draining.
But there are many people man and women who have a very strong passion for their work nonetheless. Not everybody is the same.

I agree with you that the feminist mainstream wants to strip women off of all of their feminity and turn them into the Ellen Degeneres type. But there is a lot of variety among the female population and I think that many women can have jobs that are fullfilling to them and which are fitting their talents and desires without turning into men.
And what about those woman who never find a man to have children with? And some women simply don't want children. The people that are trying to push a new world order forward are trying to turn more and more women into the kind of people who are wearing short hair, don't want any children and don't have a desire to work with people but even if these people wouldn't push their agenda forward there would still be a small percentage of women who are like this anyway. What about those?
It is true that women prefer university subjects like psychology and medicine while there aren't as many women studying chemistry at university for example but that doesn't change the fact that there are still very talented and passionate female chemists out there and that is not because of the 'NWO'. The whole thing isn't as simple as some assume it is.

(People need to learn to trust in their own desires and to love themselves for who they are and then be granted the freedom to be who they are and follow their desires.)
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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 10 Jun 2015 11:12 #26

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Raising Little Jewish Feminists

How do we teach kids that gender equality is fabulous?


By Marjorie Ingall | April 23, 2015 12:00 AM






Read by yourself if you want to know how it's done exactly
tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/189974/raising-jewish-feminists
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7 Things Feminists Need To Understand







Why Objectification is Bullshit - #WomenNotObjects






Just for fun ... mine of course ... :) hope you'll enjoy the videos, too.


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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 29 Feb 2016 17:02 #28

FEMINISM: A JEWISH PSYOP TO DEMONIZE WHITE WOMEN




Just when we were really making some progress in exposing the jewish orchestrated genocide against Whites, a toxic narrative was injected. Instead of blaming jews for their obvious role in flooding all White countries with hordes of non-White invaders, while also condemning all the White traitors who let it happen, some of the biggest figures in our “movement” started pointing the finger at White women. Women are too horny and want to be ravaged by the savages, they are all feminists, they opened the borders because they are pathologically altruistic, and so on.

After our women started getting raped and assault en masse, some men started saying these women were asking for it, that they deserved it, and that they actually liked it, since “scientific” studies show many women fantasize about rape and even orgasm while they are being brutally defiled. Many of our kinsmen, acting as “good goyim”, lapped up this poisonous narrative that has been spreading like the plague.

Recently a video was released titled Why Women Destroy Civilization, which has been shared by many within our ranks and gone viral. It puts almost all of the blame for our current situation on the unrestrained sexual desires of White women. The video says that women have no loyalty to their in-group, which is why they are always out chasing after foreigners. It never mentions the conquering armies of men (both White and brown) who have created many of the mixed people of this world through rape, the fact that women actually have more loyalty to their men than vice-versa, and the jewish culprits behind race-mixing propaganda. Even still, most women stay loyal to their men, despite all of this programming.

Although there are some White women out fornicating with non-White men, it is still not a large percentage of our population, and not a reason to throw all of our loyal women under the bus. Also, why is it that White men having sex with Asian women is never seen as a problem by many people in our “movement”? In fact, many promote it, since Asian women make the perfect “waifu”.

Apparently no one saw the hypocrisy of The Daily Stormer posting this video about how women lack in-group loyalty, as Andrew Anglin did a video a few years ago with his “jail-bait” Asian girlfriend and was on radio program in 2012 saying that he does not date White girls and that Whites should be bred out of existence.

There have even been discussions on that site about how it’s perfectly righteous for White armies to rape the non-Whites they conquer.

Real Aryan!

The video mentioned above also blames “feminism” and basically states that all White women are feminists, without ever going into any details about some of the merits to first-wave feminist arguments, and who was behind the plague of second-wave feminism.

Lasha Darkmoon comments:

Kyle Hunt is making four important points here that need to be clarified:

(1) It is a mistake to assume that all women are feminists. (2) It is therefore wrong to blame all women for the excesses of feminism, given that many women are anti-feminists; such as myself, for example, who reject modern feminism completely. (3) The early feminists however, known as the “first wave feminists”, starting with Mary Wollstonecraft (1759-1797), are not to be included in the sweeping condemnation of feminism. This is because the reforms the early feminists suggested were valid ones: basically, that women should be treated fairly and not like chattels, nor should they be subjected to exploitation and brutal ill-treatment. No reasonable person, man or woman, would object to that basic principle. (4) The rot set in with second wave feminism, which was deeply influenced by Jewish sources such as Marx and Freud, and these evils were to be taken to a new level of toxicity by third wave feminism.

By this time, the entire movement had been coopted by Jews, with Jewish feminists — e.g., Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Andrea Dworkin — playing a disproportionate role in the promotion of a multitude of poisonous doctrines that have served to drive a wedge between men and women. The end result we see now: an enormous increase in misogyny and misandry. Never before in history has the hatred between the sexes been so virulent, thanks to the machinations of the cultural Marxists who tend to be disproportionately Jewish and serve a Jewish agenda. [LD]

The video [linked by Kaminski in his article] shows images of absurd feminist stereotypes, a photoshopped image of a woman holding a sign saying that she will trade racists for rapists, and Femen protesters, implying that this is the way all White women think and act. Of course the video does not make any mention of how Femen is funded by Jewish billionaire George Soros.



FEMEN : FUNDED BY JEWISH BILLIONAIRE GEORGE SOROS

The solution given by the video is for men to severely control the sexuality and thinking of their women. It is a little vague as to how this exactly should be done, but I imagine when they speak of a return of “patriarchy”, they mean a return to the traditional Christian mindset, where women are basically confined to household chores and bearing children, covered head to toe in clothing. This is just swinging from one extreme to another, without ever realizing there is a happy medium between slutwalks and the nunnery.

In National Socialist Germany, women were not feminist whores, and although they were encouraged to be mothers with large families, women were not simply powerless possessions. Some women, such as Leni Riefenstahl and Hanna Reitsch, even surpassed male counterparts in their fields. National Socialists, who had been mired in a jewish pornographic culture for decades, did not seek to cover up all nudity and sexuality, but instead elevated the human form to new heights of beauty and spirituality, as is evidenced by their high art. This was also the way of many of our pre-Christian ancestors.

This desire to control women and view them as essentially worthless comes directly from jewish brains, going all the way back to blaming evil Eve for taking the apple in the garden of Eden. Observant jews thank YHVH every morning “that He didn’t make me a gentile, that He didn’t make me a woman, that He didn’t make me an ignoramus.” The Tractate Shabbat, sums up the attitude of jewish religious law toward women: they are “a sack full of excrement” with a bleeding hole. Jewish men essentially enslave their women and treat them worse than dogs. Haaretz even admits:

If a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they’ll save the man, ‘who is obligated to perform more commandments,’ whereas a woman’s ‘wisdom is only in the spindle.’ In fact, ‘words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.’

This poison was passed onto the other two Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Islam. They all treat their women in a similar fashion, which is clearly demonstrated by their Orthodox dress (pictured). There’s no difference with a nun in her habit and a Muslim in her burka, but if you were to listen to the advice given by the video in question, this is the only solution to save civilization. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think that beautiful women in sundresses is really at the root of our problem.

Even though the video does not make ONE mention of Jews, many otherwise jew-wise people apparently could not see the jew rubbing his hands behind the scenes, and instead bought this psychological operation hook, line and sinker. John Kaminski, a former writer for this site, submitted a piece that I refused to post. In it, he says that blaming women is the ultimate third rail topic, which is even more dangerous than blaming jews:

More dangerous than talking about 9/11, Jews or exposing the government as a robotic phantom by the UN and the IMF, might well be this topic which is sure to set off at least half the world in an eruption of outrage and denial. Yes, this just might be the ultimate third rail topic, leading you to be torn apart, like the legendary Orpheus, by a rabid mob of outraged women.

‘Why women destroy nations’ (he links to the video)

Women don’t care about the welfare of their country or their civilization. They seek to maximize their chances of bearing viable offspring. The feminization of the West has been a disaster.

The damage done to the West might be irreparably damaged. It might not be able to be repaired.

So watch the video and know without doubt that when you do, you will have your hands tightly wrapped around the third rail. How you deal with the realization that women like the idea of their country being destroyed by a rampage of virile men might just determine the viability of our future and the fate of the world.

So he really thinks women like the idea of having their countries destroyed by these virile invaders?

I understand that generalizations can be useful sometimes, but this is poison being pushed here! Many, many women are vehemently opposed to what is going on, while many men are all for letting these invaders overrun their countries.

Also, the implication is that White women are in such a position of power that they can orchestrate the mass movements of millions of people and use government positions to provide the incentives and protections to the invaders. The people who espouse this line of thinking will use Angela Merkel as an example to prove how women are behind this, neglecting to mention that she is a Communist jew-lover (if not a Jewess herself), who is the puppet head of a still-occupied country.

No, let’s just blame White women for everything.

I bet those little girls in Rotherham (and all over the White world) actually invited the Pakistani rapists into their country and then begged to be sex slaves for them. They deserve what they get! It’s the same with all of those German women who were raped to death by Soviets in WW2, since “women like the idea of their country being destroyed by a rampage of virile men.” I’m sure they were orgasming all night before having their brains bashed in. They deserved it!



German women and children destroyed by Stalin’s Red Army rapists
“Women like the idea of their country being destroyed by a rampage of virile men.” — John Kaminski

LD comments: It is the above extremely toxic comment by Kaminski that has made the author of this article, Kyle Hunt, white-hot with rage — as he admits below. No matter how you look at it, it is an inexcusable comment to make. Did the two million German women who were mass raped by the Russian army after WWII welcome the attentions of the “virile men” who decided to go on a rape “rampage”? Did the German women in Cologne on Christmas Eve “like the idea” of being sexually assaulted by those “virile men” from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and North Africa?

Kaminski has argued that his comments have been misunderstood, misinterpreted, and taken out of context. It is not for me to pass judgement on Kaminski here except to say that he could have chosen his words more wisely. For example, how could he possibly say: “Women don’t care about the welfare of their country or their civilization.” Such a comment is not only grossly unfair, it is offensive in the extreme to the vast number of women who DO care about the welfare of their country and civilization.

I care about the welfare of my country. I certainly don’t wish to see my civilization go down the drain. I’m sure Kyle Hunt’s wife feels the same way about her country and civilization. I’m sure there are millions of good women everywhere who feel outraged to be told: “You don’t care about the welfare of your country! You don’t give a damn about our great Western civilization! All you want to do is open your legs to ‘virile men’ and be impregnated by their seed because all you’re after is ‘to maximize your chances of bearing viable offspring.’ “

Let Kyle continue. You can see he is really angry with Kaminski and would like to tear him apart apart, limb from limb, for uttering such abominations against the entire female sex. The crime Kaminski is being accused of is this: undiluted and indiscriminate misogyny. [LD]

KYLE HUNT: If I was on the air right now, instead of writing, I would be yelling!

I cannot express the rage I feel when White men allow their women to be blamed, instead of seeing how they are being victimized by Jews, non-White savages, and pathetic White men.

According to Kaminski, I am a male feminist for standing up for White women as they are being relentlessly assaulted from all angles. Others out there will say that I am “white knighting” for not going along with the toxic narrative of “Women Destroy Civilizations” and blaming our beloved mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters for everything that went wrong in our world.

Good, we need more White knights!!

Does this woman deserve to be spat upon by Muslims, jews, AND White men?



WHITE WOMAN BEING SPAT UPON

White women hold the key to our future – through their words, willpower, and wombs. Do not be fooled by the multi-faceted psychological operations being run to divide us from each other. White men and women need to stop fighting against each other, realize the existential threat facing us and our offspring, and come together to battle those who seek our destruction.

White women do not destroy civilization, Jews do!

And real White men do not condemn their women, they defend them! www.darkmoon.me/2016/feminism-a-jewish-psyop-to-demonize-white-women/
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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 09 Mar 2016 14:21 #29

Feminists don't care about you, and they never will. Feminists are absorbed with finding oppression to excuse their existence and stroke their ego, and they will pull you into their egotistical narcissistic borderline spirals. These are the top 3 reasons why you should NEVER date a feminist. If you're currently dating one, I hope the pussy is worth your soul.

Obviously though, Based Mom is exempt from this rule. If she isn't your waifu, you are a sexist.

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There are lots of different feminisms.
You neo dudes have invented your own, defined it on here and you obviously don't like it.
Fair play, possibly that's why you invented it, in order to attack it
Maybe you should look at some of the other feminisms.
You might find one that you enjoy.
Post-feminism is a good place to begin.
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The only people who'd object to groups of indiviuals of any flavour trying to shake things up are those with vested interests to protect. Those who have done very well for them and theirs in a patriarchal, male-dominated society are never going to be the biggest fans of feminism.
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The only people who'd object to groups of indiviuals of any flavour trying to shake things up are those with vested interests to protect. Those who have done very well for them and theirs in a patriarchal, male-dominated society are never going to be the biggest fans of feminism.

You got that right.
What amuses me is the ignorance, wilful or otherwise of those who use the word 'feminism' as if that described one single entity.
There are 'waves' of feminisms one following the other and each has or had its adherents.
For example, two feminists - Camille Paglia who has about as much in common with Germaine Greer as Pfiz has with myself.
Feminisms are vibrant in their diversity.
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That they can't put feminism and other things in practical pigeon-holes is what confounds control freaks the most.
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That they can't put feminism and other things in practical pigeon-holes is what confounds control freaks the most.

Gotta hand it to our chums for consistency though..
They do love to invent a term in order to define and then attack it.
Cultural Marxism.. BAD ( according to their definition of it).
Political Correctness...BAD ( according to their definition of it).
Feminism... BAD plus SCARY ( according to their definition of it).
Posting horrific images online in plain view for all to see... GOOD ( according to their definition of it).

Those guys never change and never learn.
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GMP wrote:
There are lots of different feminisms.
You neo dudes have invented your own, defined it on here and you obviously don't like it.
Fair play, possibly that's why you invented it, in order to attack it
Maybe you should look at some of the other feminisms.
You might find one that you enjoy.
Post-feminism is a good place to begin.

What about you just shut up and admit/realise the fact that nobody here bar an idiot or one of your fellow partners in crime is interested in your transparent lies, or indeed listens any more to a single fucking word any of you say. Or haven't you noticed yet? I think you must have noticed, but you'll carry on regardless, just like the good little zio-bot and cultural Marxist shill and broken record that you quite clearly are. Your repetition techniques no longer work, and as a result you will start becoming more marginalised and shunned by the masses.

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All anyone needs to do is check out Google Zorro.
There are myriad 'waves' of feminisms.
It isn't a single entity.
None of what you define as feminism here and elsewhere bears the least resemblance to any of the feminisms.
You have simply made it up in order to attack it old chum.
As is the wont of you and your ilk.
If anyone is transparent on here buddy it is you neos.
You guys are just Soooo last century.
Tried and failed buddy.
Tried and failed.
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If anybody took random examples of Men Behaving Badly and tried to pass them off as being representative of the entire male side of the species, people like zorro would be frothing at the mouth.
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I love how he pretends to care about suppressed muslim women, when really he views them as incubators for more muslims.
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