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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 10:05 #321

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Yep.. women (under the term 'feminists' because the word "feminist" is slyly interspersed with the word "women") are to blame for all or most of the ills of the world.. :yerright:

Funny how the mostly male power-mongers of the world push porn and the debasement of women and don't set up laws to protect women in real danger and don't put women in the limelight who deal on a day to day basis with the real struggles of women trying to make ends meet while ensuring an environment of safety at the same time.

Men apparently live in a different world and women cannot for the most part... expect men to come to their protection even though they are physically the stronger sex.... it is usually the case... if women are in physical danger, it is from men, men themselves far more apt to be in danger from another man, far more likely to be assaulted or murdered by another man than a woman.

In Europe (as elsewhere) it is women who are being gang-raped, sexually assaulted and murdered (in growing numbers) as well.... by who??...by men.... you can talk about the race of who is doing it but it is always men.

Yet European men who deem themselves to be awake go on blathering about how women are the cause of all their ills....

You would have thought men, by this time, would step up to the plate... you think there are not very many women very worried by the changing dynamics going on in Europe and elsewhere? worried about the assaults, the rapes, the threats, the murders, the molestations against children? you think many women don't want to be part of defensive and pro-active civilian action plans to help ensure their own and their own families safety and security at a community level?

If men were using their actual brain cells they would be doing everything to get women on board, bringing them up to speed on where this could all be heading if they are unaware on a political level, encouraging women to learn to protect themselves, to take classes in self-defence (teaching where the 'vulnerable' parts of the body are irregardless of strength etc..), helping supply them the means for self-protection such as handy (and legal) weapons they can carry on their persons and ensuring they know how to use them (especially if they are not thinking in these terms already due to a more passive nature or naivety).

Training in being 'consciously' aware of their surroundings and what to look out for and what to do in the event of any kind of potential or actual danger (usually at the hands of other men :O), ensuring they are being 'vigilant' and 'confident' in their body stature when outside in the world rather than giving off vibes of 'paranoid' and 'fearful' which is more apt to make them a target.

Including them in 'vigilant' groups in the neighborhoods with adequate and instant communication tools. There are lots of things to be done. And men ought to be looking out for women, girls, boys, children and other men, with women doing the same. Doesn't matter what she or they 'believe', if she is a liberal or conservative, a so-called 'feminist' or 'non-feminist'... women and girls as well as boys are being targeted for sexual assaults, rapes and violence not due to what they 'believe' or where they stand 'politically' but because they are 'easier targets' and because of the sick and twisted mindset of the assaulters.

Get your heads out of your defensive flipping asses.

Stop blathering on about 'oh... women this... women that.... us poor men... ' Grow the hell up and start being men. You seem to want to turn women off what needs to be done by going on about 'women this .. women that'... at the very time that women are under major assault and rightly afraid. All you want to do blame, cast blame.... while many women are nervous and afraid of these changes that are happening, and they are right to be nervous and afraid.


The men who are even so-called 'awake' are throwing them out to the wolves... good job.

And yes... a lot of people could be 'brought on board'... but apparently white conservative very right-wing men think they are the only ones worthy of being brought on board and everyone else in unacceptable, they are busy insulting everybody else, many of whom feel the same way they do about much that is happening but THEY end up being insulted and put down.

It will end up being your fight and your fight alone because you shoved everyone else off, everyone else who could have been of help, an intricate part of the movement even (God forbid). Yes there is an anti-white agenda but you want to make it only about a specific group of people (white right-wing males), people just like you and NO ONE ELSE, as if it isn't affecting anyone else.

One group Pfiz named I can't see being allies though are Muslims, perhaps that is because in my correspondence with even the most 'awake' Muslims they are most definitely Muslims first and foremost and view everything through the eyes of Islam, the Quran and Hadiths, even their 'awakeness' is completely filtered through the mindset of Islam. But vulnerable Muslims need protection as well, those under assault from their fellow. more extremist, Muslims. I do feel for Muslims (who had no choice in the matter) who are trying to break through their own oppression, it is difficult to become an ex-Muslim when it means being ostracized and with a possible death sentence. A strong stand must be made against such things as honour killings, child marriage, assaults and murders against gays by extremist Muslims (no matter how you feel about gays), polygamy, Halal dietary laws etc.. to stem the tide of Sharia in every which way.

One of the scariest individuals I ever talked to was a Muslim who was going on about "....what we do to gays where we come from..." and how "we don't just kill them..... we take them to the highest cliffs and throw them off....." (it wasn't even just what he was saying that unnerved me, which didn't altogether surprise me, it was the crazy look in his eyes.....), that Muslim (I don't know his name and only spoke to him once in a public place) would not have hesitated to do the same here in Canada, I can guarantee you that. And no matter what I think of gay rights and the gay rights agenda..... I realized the danger they were actually in......from Muslims here in the West......


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annabelle wrote:
you think there are not very many women very worried by the changing dynamics going on in Europe and elsewhere?

No not really, for the most part, and present company (you pfiz and lizzy) excluded of course.

My understanding and perception is that the majority of women support it (or else youre racist)

Your post was a good read though, many valid points, but some of these things (like forming vigilante groups) can get you thrown in a cage, there are people out there called police who are policy officers for the elite for one thing... vigilante groups cant be everywhere all the time, and cant go around beating up potential rapists now can they, what are they supposed to do.. beat up people who look like immigrants from ME or africa ffs. Its a complicated issue and awake and aware men and women have their hands tied to a degree because there isnt critical mass there, so the aforementiond cant affect/change policy (police-ey) and so on.

With man-woman relationships generally being in a worse state these days than the recent past, together with the controllers implementing their kalergi plan.. seems the goose is just about cooked regarding europa as she once was, its going to change whether people like it or not because nothing is stopping what is going on.

Those truther muslims you spoke about could end up right about some things.




I thought annabelle was addressing the men on this forum and their statements?


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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 10:33 #322

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Are there many of us here stating that....

annabelle wrote:
women are to blame for all or most of the ills of the world.

:dunno:

Women might be to blame for some of us here going abit nuts on a personal level, but its old white men who call the shots for the most part on the big stuff (unless you eat enough fluoridated froot loops to believe the beyonce song)

I wont blame women or say they are more succeptable to programming the way some truthers say, because there are enough men who are the same. I'll start with the US military for one, lots of useful pawns there, fighting for kings (and their agendas) that they will never know or meet.
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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 10:51 #323

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I didn't think annabelle was addressing you and I can't remember that you ever blamed brainwashed girls and women
eg for the "downfall" and "extinction" of the white race by holding "Rapists Welcome" banners in front of the cameras
of the mouthpieces of the system, so that these photos and videos can be reproduced - contrary to white babies - in eternity
to make white men hate white women. Division accomplished! Die out!


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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 11:02 #324

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How can one solely blame women when the kushes of the world have all these male junkyard dogs at their disposal...

truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/69139-trump-orders-cruise-missile-strikes-against-syria.html?start=40#256541

Incoming! And this ones a twofer! ( thats more bombs into Syria and more 'fugees coming in the other way)
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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 11:10 #325

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Such a shame that annabelle falls in the same trap as the feminazis. Blinded by a disgust blaming all men for the ills of some. Ironically that what she holds against men.

Every "us, women, against you men", just as "us, men, against you, women" approach is not only doomed to fail; it is exactly that peer-fighting the Elites hope for.
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Feminism - Empowerment or Oppression? 08 Apr 2017 11:24 #326

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How in earth did you extract this extremely biased view from her comment, Gaia?

Did you ever intervene when men spoke like this about women on this forum?
If so I must have missed it.

"Feminazi", ma! Another of those idiotic newspeak terms created by the eternal destroyers.
Whoever uses these terms is helping them. Jmho.


Stop blathering on about 'oh... women this... women that.... us poor men... ' Grow the hell up and start being men. You seem to want to turn women off what needs to be done by going on about 'women this .. women that'... at the very time that women are under major assault and rightly afraid. All you want to do blame, cast blame.... while many women are nervous and afraid of these changes that are happening, and they are right to be nervous and afraid.

The men who are even so-called 'awake' are throwing them out to the wolves... good job.




We all know whose combat motto is DIVISION and DISTRACTION by DECEPTION to make the white
genocide come true - among other goals - at the best by washing one's hands off any guilt, if they die
out due to divisive propaganda only. By their own gullibility and stupidity! Not even realising what is
going on.

Annabelle is speaking out against DIVISION! This is the most important message of her comment.


Playing all sides to control the tension and steer the outcome of the war is an old ruse de guerre.



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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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annabelle wrote:
you think there are not very many women very worried by the changing dynamics going on in Europe and elsewhere?

Novum wrote:
My understanding and perception is that the majority of women support it (or else youre racist)

That is the perception being put out (selectively) by the mainstream and unfortunately even the alternative media... deceptively, selectively and manipulatively imv.

Novum wrote:
Your post was a good read though, many valid points, but some of these things (like forming vigilante groups) can get you thrown in a cage...

I haven't read further but I just wanted to clarify here as I should have worded myself differently, when I wrote of vigilant groups... I didn't mean vigilante groups.. the spelling of the two words are almost identical so I should have used a different word but I meant vigilant groups in the sense of groups (and people) that are being vigilant... ie.

vig·i·lant

keeping careful watch for possible danger or difficulties.
"the burglar was spotted by vigilant neighbors"

synonyms: watchful, observant, attentive, alert, eagle-eyed, hawk-eyed, on the lookout, on one's toes, wide awake, wakeful, unwinking, on one's guard, cautious, wary...
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^ The fact that a LOT of women support the changing dynamics (mass-immigration) in Europe and elsewhere is proven by the fact that if one takes a look around him/her, you can see all the white women race-mixing with black and brown people.

If one walks the cities over here you can see white women with men from a different race literally all over the place.

So I guess those won't be anti-immigration (white genocide) at all.
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"Proven fact"?

Proven by what exactly?

By your personal perception when you look around your world from inside your head with your eyes?

(((Amsterdam))) and (((Rotterdam))) etc were flooded early with foreign people, drugs, prostitution/human trafficking/sex slave trade entailing all (((cultural achievements))) that usually go along with such transformations, because most of those flourishing seaport towns were (((money))) controlled since ships could sail the oceans and trade everything available, including humans.

Just imagine how different the world could have developed ....
if only the European Americans and the Britons had refused to obey their (((warlords))) a few decades ago
and not massacred their German brothers and sisters. Soon we'll have the same situation again.
What will they do this time?


What do you see when you travel the countryside, the Dutch reservations? Or are there none left?


SPOILER: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/69018-poll-should-women-have-the-right-to-vote.html?start=40#254373

Flare, I thought you might perhaps want to answer the questions eventually?

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
"Proven fact"?

Proven by what exactly?

By your personal perception when you look around your world from inside your head with your eyes?

(((Amsterdam))) and (((Rotterdam))) etc were flooded early with foreign people, drugs, prostitution/human trafficking/sex slave trade entailing all (((cultural achievements))) that usually go along with such transformations, because most of those flourishing seaport towns were ((())) money controlled since ships could sail the oceans and trade everything available, including humans.

What do you see when you travel the countryside, the Dutch reservations?

SPOILER: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/69018-poll-should-women-have-the-right-to-vote.html?start=40#254373

Flare, I thought you might perhaps want to answer the questions eventually?

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Well... anyone who race-mixes will obviously also be pro-immigration. Or at least, 999 out of 1000 times.

And what I see all over the place is a LOT of white women race-mixing. Far more than men do.

Which leads to the conclusion that more women are proponents of the 'change in dynamics' than men.
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You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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You are repeating yourself and I refuse to repeat my responses over and over again
until you might perhaps some time be willing and/or able to understand what I am saying
and perhaps be willing and/or able to respond to what I said.

No hard feelings, just bored.

:)

P.S.: Maybe you can at least accept that other people have different perceptions and that the world is not everywhere identical to your place?
I was still editing while you had already quoted my comment.
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One could scour the internet, social media, mainstream media, youtube videos, photos, images etc.. and find LOADS of examples of MEN who are pro-immigration and pro-refugees and then PLASTER them all over this forum and then blame the male sex for being so stupid while completely IGNORING all the very many examples, footage, real life men etc.. who are very concerned about the changes that are happening in Europe and against the flooding of (illegal) migrants. One could also point out the many (white) men walking around with 'mixed race' women, friends and family members at their side (sowing more division). I have listened to quite a number of legal immigrants who came to Europe in years past, sometimes generations past, who are very worried about the flooding of migrants into Europe and are against it for many of the same reasons 'whites' are, but let's ignore that as well.
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annabelle wrote:
annabelle wrote:
you think there are not very many women very worried by the changing dynamics going on in Europe and elsewhere?

Novum wrote:
My understanding and perception is that the majority of women support it (or else youre racist)

That is the perception being put out (selectively) by the mainstream and unfortunately even the alternative media... deceptively, selectively and manipulatively imv.

Novum wrote:
Your post was a good read though, many valid points, but some of these things (like forming vigilante groups) can get you thrown in a cage...

I haven't read further but I just wanted to clarify here as I should have worded myself differently, when I wrote of vigilant groups... I didn't mean vigilante groups.. the spelling of the two words are almost identical so I should have used a different word but I meant vigilant groups in the sense of groups (and people) that are being vigilant... ie.

vig·i·lant

keeping careful watch for possible danger or difficulties.
"the burglar was spotted by vigilant neighbors"

synonyms: watchful, observant, attentive, alert, eagle-eyed, hawk-eyed, on the lookout, on one's toes, wide awake, wakeful, unwinking, on one's guard, cautious, wary...

OK, my bad. You were talking about being a vigilant citizen. :P

As for the thread title, empowerment or oppression.. .well perhaps feminism is a bit of both.. the women doing it on their own might be free and empowered in many ways, but opressed by having to go to work and having to pay all the bills and mortgage .. vs how it used to be... so its a trade off.. social and sexual freedom on one side and more financial and work responsibility on the other.
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You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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O yea that bitch had it coming allright.

What the fuck was she thinking? That she could actually fight men? :facepalm:
.....]
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The antifa femtard wouldn't have been punched if she was playing her biological role as a mother and homemaker
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

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Flare wrote:
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O yea that bitch had it coming allright.

What the fuck was she thinking? That she could actually fight men? :facepalm:
.....]



:yup:
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Here is the feminist empowerment of Venus Rosales, the antifa "warrior" who got smacked down in the name of gender equality m

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A woman at ease with her sexuality. The scariest thing in the world to a pussified insecure male hooked up on female empowerment.
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