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The American Indian thread 28 Apr 2016 09:10 #61

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South Dakota Sex Abuse Scandal: A Peek Inside the Church’s Drawers

''The letters are casual, even chatty, from officials of St. Francis Mission, on the Rosebud Sioux Reservation, in South Dakota, to Catholic Church superiors. The mission ran one of many boarding schools to which Native American parents were required to send their children from the late 1800s until the 1970s, when most of the institutions were closed down or transferred to tribal control.

“All goes along quietly out here,” one priest wrote in 1968, with “good religious and lay faculty” at the mission. There are troublesome staffers, though, including “Chappy,” who is “fooling around with little girls — he had them down the basement of our building in the dark, where we found a pair of panties torn.” Later that year, Brother Francis Chapman was still abusing children, though by 1970, he was “a new man,” the reports say. In 1973, Chappy again “has difficulty with little girls.”

Some documents are more discreet than explicit. In 1967, two nuns at St. Paul’s Indian Mission, on the Yankton Sioux Reservation, also in South Dakota, had excessive “interest in” and “dealings with” older male students, says a report to Church higher-ups. (St. Paul’s, pictured below, was renamed Marty Indian School when the tribe took it over in 1975; 2008 graduation tipis are shown in the foreground.) Another nun has “too close a circle of friends, especially two boys.”

What ex-students describe as rampant sexual abuse in South Dakota’s half-dozen boarding schools occurred against a backdrop of extreme violence. “I’ll never forget my sister’s screams as the nuns beat her with a shovel after a pair of scissors went missing,” said Mary Jane Wanna Drum, 64, who attended a Catholic institution in Sisseton, South Dakota, for the children of her tribe, Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate.''


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The American Indian thread 28 Apr 2016 12:01 #62

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Polite reminder


If you have some time to spare, Gaia, you might perhaps want to answer my questions:



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Aren't we all sinners. ; men raping women is a universal problem

What the heck? You really believe this feminist socially engineered bullshit?

A "universal problem"? Well no, it's a problem of completely deranged minds who lack empathy.



When was feminism invented, by whom and to achieve what exactly?

When did men start to rape women and for what reason?

Could it be an archaic means of submission?

If so, would this be proof for the claim: the lower the cultural advancement, the higher the rape proneness?

Why is mass rape used as a strategic weapon in all wars up to this day and what does this tell about the cultural advancement of societies, whose troops receive (secret or subliminal) orders to apply rape as a weapon?



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The American Indian thread 28 Apr 2016 17:40 #63

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Polite reminder

Polite? Have you ever been "polite"? or when an answer is not to your linking you start screaming "Hasbara trolllzzzz!!!!!11!!!!!!!11!"? :roll:
If you have some time to spare, Gaia, you might perhaps want to answer my questions:
When was feminism invented, by whom and to achieve what exactly?

Jews of course. 19th century marxists. To divert real problems and criticisms. To submit women to craziness. Feminism is anti-woman as it assumes women are somehow lower than men and need to be helped by the state. It's all about power, they don't care about women at all.
When did men start to rape women and for what reason?
1 - men not only rape women, men also rape men and women rape men also
2 - as soon as the first Homo sapiens was able to walk or even before
3 - "reason" is a bit of a strange word here. Motive I'd say. Control and power, as always.
Could it be an archaic means of submission?

That and the inability to get a woman the normal way. That is what power does; it creates the opportunity for weak individuals to rise to positions they never would have reached based on rational grounds. Power destroys merits, because if you have power you don't need merits to reach a position.
If so, would this be proof for the claim: the lower the cultural advancement, the higher the rape proneness?
1 - this is useless without defining "cultural advancement"
2 - it doesn't depend on the culture per sé, it depends on the childhood. Rapists have been raised in households where there was no respect for physical (and mental) integrity.
3 - so in "highly cultural" households (think royals, nobles, priests, etc.) there was and is a lot of rape too. And in "low cultural" households based on hard work and values there was not necessarily rape.
Why is mass rape used as a strategic weapon in all wars up to this day

You answer your own question already; strategic weapon.
and what does this tell about the cultural advancement of societies, whose troops receive (secret or subliminal) orders to apply rape as a weapon?

Nothing. You cannot project the sick behaviour of soldiers on a society. US Americans are not suddenly rapists because some of their soldiers raped Iraqi (and many other) women in filthy wars. Or other actions.

Germans are not suddenly intrinsically bad people because filthy nazis were putting people in camps.
Even Israelis are not suddenly collectively child molesters because their IDF killed Palestinian kids for throwing a stone. If they approve it (and many do, brainwashed as they are because of the military indoctrination of 3 years draft), they are sick and mean, but they still didn't kill the child themselves.

Difference between collectivism (bad, because you strip individuals from their control over themselves) and individualism (good; taking every individual as responsible for his/her action).

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Back on-topic: same holds for the indigenous peoples of the Americas. That the powerful elites conducted horrible things as rape, sacrifices, indoctrination of the masses, scalping, etc. does not make indigenous people collectively responsible for that.

That is statist speech used in the news everyday; "The Russians are bombing in Syria". No, "the Russian army is bombing in Syria". Not 120 million Russians are doing those horrible things. But this Newspeak is of course not unintended as an awake mind knows. The Elites love to collectivise as that is a mean to set-up people against each other so they stay safe in the background.
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The American Indian thread 28 Apr 2016 17:50 #64

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Cinta:
Rape is not an evil thing according to your bible.
Women are forced to marry their rapists.
How does that fit your idyllic little book?
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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The American Indian thread 28 Apr 2016 21:39 #65

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Rape is not an evil thing according to your bible.
Women are forced to marry their rapists.
How does that fit your idyllic little book?

Your heart has bad intent with this remark,but I will answer you anyway bd.

I will even give you the verses in the OT that refer to rape,
and if I missed any feel free to add some more.

Judges 21:10-24
Numbers 31:7-18
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Deuteronomy 22:28
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
2 Samuel 12:11-14
Deuteronomy 21:10
Judges 5:30
Exodus 21:7
Zechariah 14:1


I am not a Jew,and not under the Mosaic Law..
This law has ended in the OT with the death and ressurrection of Jesus Christ:

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us''

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

John 1:17
For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ.

Philippians 3:9
and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law,
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the
basis of faith,


Pick up the Pearl bd one day when death has come, you wil also stand infront of the Throne of Christ then you cannot say : I didn't know.

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save your preaching for the street corner.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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The American Indian thread 29 Apr 2016 05:51 #67

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bd wrote:
save your preaching for the street corner.
What a sad little cunt you are. First you ask Cinta to explain the Bible's view on rape, then she gives it and then you respond like this.

You don't even make any effort to disguise your pathetic pygmy pose. :facepalm:
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you wil also stand infront of the Throne of Christ then you cannot say : I didn't know.

Our choices seal our fate

Gaia: what has this to do with rape?
it is preaching, plain and simple.
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you ask Cinta to explain the Bible's view on rape, then she gives it and then you respond like this.


see above.
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bd wrote:
save your preaching for the street corner.

The Word of God has pierced your heart,otherwise you would not have reacted in this disrespectfull way.

Hebrews 4:12

''For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword,

piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning

the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
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Cinta wrote:
bd wrote:
save your preaching for the street corner.

The Word of God has pierced your heart,otherwise you would not have reacted in this disrespectfull way.

Hebrews 4:12

''For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword,

piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning

the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

like i said, save your inane preaching for the street corner.
fuck off.
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On topic.
When we were last in the USA the Native American reservation nearby where we stayed ran a bingo and casino business.
They put on buses to transport little old ladies in for 'Indian Bingo' sessions.
Gambling wasn't allowed in the state itself.
That was a nice casino as well.
Seemed to be doing OK.
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On topic.
When we were last in the USA the Native American reservation nearby where we stayed ran a bingo and casino business.
They put on buses to transport little old ladies in for 'Indian Bingo' sessions.
Gambling wasn't allowed in the state itself.
That was a nice casino as well.
Seemed to be doing OK.

Good story. I didn't know the Native Americans were also Jews.

Maybe Agent Orange is right after all... :ponda:
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Cinta:
Rape is not an evil thing according to your bible.
Women are forced to marry their rapists.
How does that fit your idyllic little book?
Interesting ... one troll attacking another :hahano:

Commies LOVED rape.
One of this century's greatest crimes, and probably one of the greatest crimes against women in history, was the mass rape of the conquered women of Europe after the Judeo-Communist victory there in 1945. The rapists were mainly Red Army soldiers, some of them non-White troops from the Far East and Central Asian Republics of the Soviet Union. But I am sorry to say that many of the rapists were men of our own race, and some were Americans. They were brutes no doubt, but they were permitted and encouraged to indulge their lower than bestial urges by official "Allied" policies which incited hatred particularly against the Germans, but also against those of other European nationalities which were then allied with Germany in an anti-Communist bloc. One cannot contemplate this great mass orgy of rape, gang rape, and sexual slavery of innocent women and little girls without revulsion. It would be easy for you to toss this newsletter aside and pickup more pleasant or amusing reading. But if you want to know the truth about one of the darkest secrets of our present establishment, a horrible crime against women about which the Politically Correct feminists are strangely silent, then I urge you to read on.

I claim no originality for the documentation or recounting of this ghastly crime perpetrated mainly by what Franklin Roosevelt called "our noble Soviet ally." We are indebted to Dr. Austin J. App, a professor and scholar of English literature at Catholic University, the University of Scranton, and LaSalle College, among others, who risked career and livelihood to bring these truths to light. In April, 1946, when he published the work upon which this article is based, entitled Ravishing the Women of Conquered Europe, he was a lone voice crying out for justice in an America still high on war propaganda and on a "victory" that in the later Cold War years and after would be seen clearly as a defeat for America and the West as much as it was for Germany.

As the Red Army advanced toward her in 1945, the city of Berlin had become a city virtually without men. Out of a civilian population of 2,700,000, 2,000,000 were women. It is small wonder that the fear of sexual attack raced through the city like a plague. Doctors were besieged by patients seeking information on the quickest way to commit suicide, and poison was in great demand.

In Berlin stood a charity institution, the Haus Dehlem, an orphanage, maternity hospital, and foundling home. Soviet soldiers entered the home, and repeatedly raped pregnant women and women who had just given birth. This was not an isolated incident. No one will ever know how many women were raped, but doctors' estimates run as high as 100,000 for the city of Berlin alone, their ages ranging from 10 to 70.

On March 24, 1945, our "noble Soviet allies" entered Danzig. A 50-year-old Danzig teacher reported that her niece, 15, was raped seven times, and her other niece, 22, was raped fifteen times. A Soviet officer told a group of women to seek safety in the Cathedral. Once they were securely locked inside, the beasts of Bolshevism entered, and ringing the bells and playing the organ, "celebrated" a foul orgy through the night, raping all the women, some more than thirty times. A Catholic pastor in Danzig declared, "They violated even eight-year-old girls and shot boys who tried to shield their mothers."

The Most Reverend Bernard Griffin, British Archbishop, made a tour of Europe to study conditions there, and reported, "In Vienna alone they raped 100,000 women, not once but many times, including girls not yet in their teens, and aged women."

A Lutheran pastor in Germany, in a letter of August 7, 1945, to the Bishop of Chichester, England, describes how a fellow pastor's "two daughters and a grandchild (ten years of age) suffer from gonorrhea, [as a] result of rape" and how "Mrs. N. was killed when she resisted an attempt to rape her," while her daughter was "raped and deported, allegedly to Omsk, Siberia, for indoctrination."

The day after our noble Soviet allies conquered Neisse, Silesia, 182 Catholic nuns were raped. In the diocese of Kattowitz 66 pregnant nuns were counted. In one convent when the Mother Superior and her assistant tried to protect the younger nuns with outstretched arms, they were shot down. A priest reported in Nord Amerika magazine for November 1, 1945, that he knew "several villages where all the women, even the aged and girls as young as twelve, were violated daily for weeks by the Russians."

Sylvester Michelfelder, a Lutheran pastor, wrote in the Christian Century: "Bands of irresponsible bandits in Russian or American uniforms pillage and rob the trains. Women and girls are violated in sight of everyone. They are stripped of their clothes."

On April 27, 1946 Vatican Radio charged that in the Russian occupation zone of Eastern Germany cries of help are going up "from girls and women who are being brutally raped and whose bodily and spiritual health is completely shaken."

The rapists did not all wear a red star. John Dos Passos, writing in Life magazine for January 7, 1946, quotes a "red-faced major" as saying that "Lust, liquor and loot are the soldier's pay." A serviceman wrote to Time magazine for November 12, 1945 "Many a sane American family would recoil in horror if they knew how 'Our Boys' conduct themselves, with such complete callousness in human relationships over here." An army sergeant wrote "Our own Army and the British Army ... have done their share of looting and raping ... This offensive attitude among our troops is not at all general, but the percentage is large enough to have given our Army a pretty black name, and we too are considered an army of rapists."

An Italian survivor of American bombing states that Black American troops, stationed in Naples, were allowed by their superiors free access to poor, hungry, and humiliated Italian women. The result of this interracial rape and sexual slavery was the production of a generation of pitiable mixed-race children, a legacy of the brutal conqueror.

According to an AP dispatch of September 12, 1945, entitled "German- American Marriages Forbidden", the Franklin Roosevelt government instructed its soldiers that marriage with the inferior Germans was absolutely forbidden, but those having illegitimate children by German women, whose husbands and boyfriends were conveniently dead or held as prisoners or slave laborers, could count on allowance money. And, according to Time magazine of September 17, 1945, the government provided these soldiers with an estimated 50 million condoms per month, and graphically instructed them as to their use. For all practical purposes, our soldiers were being told: "Teach these Germans a lesson -- and have a wonderful time!" Such were the great crusaders who brought "democracy" to Europe.

For the Americans and British, open rape was not as common as among the Soviet troops. The Soviets simply raped any female from eight years up and if a German man or woman killed a Russian soldier for anything, including rape, 50 Germans were killed for each incident, as reported in Time magazine, June 11, 1945. But for most of our boys, having that "wonderful time" depended a great deal on the "cooperation" of the German and Austrian women. From the starving and the homeless, of course, sexual "cooperation" could be bought for a few pennies or a mouthful of food. I don't think we ought to dignify this arrangement with any other than its true name of sexual slavery.
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bd wrote:
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bd wrote:
save your preaching for the street corner.

The Word of God has pierced your heart,otherwise you would not have reacted in this disrespectfull way.

Hebrews 4:12

''For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword,

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the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

like i said, save your inane preaching for the street corner.
fuck off.
Anti Christian hate. How 'tolerant' of you.
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anti-asshole ... anti-preacher.
simple.
and, in your case, anti-hypocrite.
you ain't no christian.
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bd you are disrupting this thread with your attempted censorship of Cinta and your rudeness.





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