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AH religion 05 Apr 2015 14:17 #1

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The gang here denies the cult of personality and idolatry of AH,but it exists.Just as the occult new age of the SS did as well--

Developing an Adolf Hitler Religion 1 of 3

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part 2--

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part 3--



The deceptive approach of threads like this - truth-zone.net/forum/anthropology/65194-the-demonisation-of-paganism.html
now are exposed for what they are.
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The Nazi Mass suicide is a characteristic of a cult.
This kind of disgusting and disrespectful behaviour is condoned here

ORANGEAID verbal abuse

''Cinta is a whore.
I don't change one word I've said.''

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For somebody who moans a lot about others discussing this subject and who claims they're not interested in WWII you sure do post a lot of shit on the subject. What you really mean is that you're not comfortable having your little bubble burst..

You clearly have issues with others seeing through the lies zax. Obvious much.

Know your history.. not the version that was forced down your throat. Did you have a choice at school? No you didn't, so why deny yourself that choice now?

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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What I will say speaking for myself alone is that I wish Brain had not mixed his Shambala beliefs and modern 'alternative' history .

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The gang here denies the cult of personality and idolatry of AH,but it exists.Just as the occult new age of the SS did as well--

Developing an Adolf Hitler Religion 1 of 3

Adolf Hitler

(1889-1945)



OVERVIEW

Adolf Hitler, leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party, was appointed Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He acted as the military and political leader of Germany from 1933 until 1945.1 Though Hitler achieved this status through parliamentary means, his power transcended his official title, reaching into the depths of Germans and German society. The theory presented in this section asserts that Hitler became a seemingly flawless revolutionary figure for the German people. This section will discuss the circumstances that allowed such an image to resonate with the Germans, as well as the specific measures Hitler took to promote the view of himself as larger than life.



EVIDENCE

Hitler assumed the title Fuhrer, or "Lord."1 This name carried many implications. It framed Hitler as the final word and gave him supreme authority. Many Germans looked to Hitler as a godlike figure. The following excerpt from a speech by Robert Ley, a politician in the Nazi Party, illustrates the profound German belief in Hitler's abilities and the power of his words:


It was all due to the faith of one man! Yes, you who called us godless, we found our faith in Adolf Hitler, and through him found God once again. That is the greatness of our day, that is our good fortune!2

This view of Hitler as a supreme authority was complemented by official legislation. "Heil Hitler!" became legally obligatory as a greeting.3 Hitler's godlike aura also impacted the ways in which Germans interpreted various events. German perception of Hitler as infallible heavily influenced popular opinion of the Night of the Long Knives. On June 30, 1934, Hitler purged the party of high-ranking "deviant" SA guards.1 Ian Kershaw comments on the general reception of Hitler's actions:


The almost total absence of any criticism of Hitler was, in fact, already apparent even in the immediate aftermath of the events. 'Sympathy lay generally from the beginning on the side of the Fuhrer'... In Upper Bavaria 'unreserved recognition for the energy, cleverness, and courage of the Fuhrer could reportedly be heard everywhere.4

Though Hitler's actions could have been viewed as excessive punishment, the public reacted favorably, deeming Hitler's behavior courageous. Germans perceived Hitler's purges as means to maintain order and uphold morality:


The two most potent features of Hiter's perceived image following the 'Rohm Putsch' were, first, that he was the executant of 'natural justice' (even if flouting all legal convetions), defending the 'little man' against the abuse of power of the 'big shots'; and, second, that he was the upholder of public morality, cleansing public life of the dissolute immorality and corruption of the SA leaders.4

The German view of Hitler's actions as highly moral shows the degree to which a personality cult existed around Hitler. The Germans, so captivated by an image of Hitler as godlike, perceived his actions as well-intentioned to promote the general good. In The Hitler Myth, Kershaw writes that these incidents show how Germans fell victim to an "uncritical deification of Hitler."4 Kershaw also details how Germans held the myth that Hitler was not responsible for any troubles they felt. Rather, people blamed the corrupt Nazi party for anything negative and assumed Hitler had no knowledge of these actions:


And the myth of 'if only the Fuhrer knew' was already at work. Many genuinely believed that matters, especially if unpalatable, were deliberately kept from Hitler, and that if he learned of them he would act swiftly to set things right.4

Images of large crowds of Germans also help to show the deification of Hitler.
The following clip from "Triumph of the Will" also depicts the unwavering allegiance to Hitler. Germans in the crowd cheer in unison, practically worshipping Hitler during rallies: Closing Scene from Triumph of the Will



These examples show how Hitler achieved a godlike status in Germany. But through what methods was he able to accomplish such a feat? The following sections will discuss the circumstances and tactics that allowed Hitler to rise to this status.



CIRCUMSTANCES

Before discussing specifically how Hitler achieved such power through the personality cult, one must understand the prevailing circumstances in Germany before Hitler's rise to power. These circumstances allowed Hitler's tactics to work in that they created an ideal environment for a revolutionary figure to captivate the minds of desperate Germans.



Following their defeat in WWI, most Germans were depressed and lacked pride in being German. They felt as if the entire international community blamed them for the brutality and death toll of World War One.3 The War Guilt Clause of the Treaty of Versailles required Germany to take complete responsibility for the war. The following website contains useful information about the background and specific provisions of the Treaty of Versailles: Versailles Details



In addition to shame and embarassment, the Treaty of Versailles also contributed to a declining and stagnant German economy. The obligation to pay reparations mandated in the treaty hurt the German economy. This already dire economic situation worsened due to the hyperinflation of the German Reichsmark in the early 1920s, as well as widespread unemployment and a decrease in the standard of living.5 Such economic downturn represented a dramatic change from German pre-war prosperity. The Great Depression of the 1930s further plunged Germany into economic catastrophe, a period characterized by Ferguson as one of "economic chaos." For more information on the economic pitfalls in Germany following the war, refer to the following article from The Economist: Millenium Issue: German Hyperinflation


Many Germans associated these dismal economic circumstances with the Weimar government. Such widespread discontent and general desparation fueled German desire for a radical change in leadership. These sentiments provided an ideal venue for Hitler's ascent to power and use of personality cult. Germans, so down on their luck and depressed, longed for a strong, revolutionary figure to deliver them from their present depression:
Hitler, and Hitler alone, seemed in the end to stand in the eyes of many Germans between them and total annihilation.6

RHETORIC: DOMINATION THROUGH SPEECH

Hitler's manner of speaking contributed heavily to the development of a personality cult around him. Hitler's style was direct and made the Germans feel as though he understood their specific needs. Richard Breiting, a journalist, describes Hitler's rhetorical style:


He used simple, straightforward language that ordinary people could understand, short sentences, powerful, emotive slogans... There were no qualifications in what he said; everything was absolute, uncompromising, irrevocable, undeviating, unalterable, final. He seemed... to speak straight from the heart, and to express their own deepest fear and desires... Such uncompromising radicalism lent Hitler's public meetings a revivalist fervour.7

Joseph Goebbels, Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda under the National Socialists, also wrote about Hitler's effective oratory style in a book Hitler published in 1936:


One cannot imagine that the Fuhrer ever spoke differently than he does today, or that he will ever speak differently. He speaks his heart, and therefore reaches the hearts of those who hear him. He has the amazing gift of sensing what is in the air. He has the ability to express things so clearly, logically and directly that listeners are convinced that that is what they have always thought themselves. That is the true secret of the effectiveness of Adolf Hitler's speeches... The essential characteristics of his speeches to the people are: clear organization, irrefutable logical reasoning, simplicity and clarity of expression, razor-sharp dialectic, a developed and sure instinct for the masses and their feelings, an electrifying emotional appeal that is used sparingly, and the ability to reach out to the souls of the people in a way that never goes.2

This YouTube video of one of Hitler's speeches also helps to illustrate Hitler's passion and powerful speaking style: 1932 Hitler Speech. Hitler's speaking style fueled the personality cult because it allowed him to connect with the German people in a seemingly sincere and honest manner. Hitler demonstrated an emotional understanding of German needs and played off their vulnerability by speaking candidly and strongly. Desperate Germans found comfort and solace in Hitler's powerful words and direct style. Germans were drawn to Hitler's charisma and his interpersonal skills contributed to his ability to instill hope in Germans.



His manner, however, was not the only element that resulted in German reception of his ideas and the creation of a personality cult. In addition, the specific words and language used by Hitler promoted an image of him as the savior of the German people. He specifically addressed the needs of the German people. Because Hitler promised deliverance from economic hardships and provided hope for a prosporous future, Hitler came to be viewed as a beacon of hope for the German people:


Germany of post-World War I was demoralized and disorganized. Adolph Hitler's rhetoric was successful not only because of his personal charisma and his mastery of delivery, but because he spoke at the right time: the German people wanted a way out of its economic morass and its cultural shame, and Hitler provided them both with his strong, nationalistic oratory. Had Germany been doing better economically, Hitler's words would have bounced harmlessly off the air.8

For full texts of Hitler's speeches, visit the following website: Hitler Historical Museum



Hitler also used songs and music to boost allegiance and engender loyalty. In Unheard Witness, Ernst Hanfstaengl discusses how he introduced Harvard fight songs to Hitler as a means for creating excitement among Germans. Hanfstaengl says that Hitler was immediately taken with the idea of using marching bands.


I told him about the thousands of spectators being made to roar, "Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, rah, rah, rah!" in unison and of the hypnotic effect of this sort of thing... I had Hitler fairly shouting with enthusiasm... and he pranced up and down the room like a drum majorette. After that he had the S.A. band practicing the same thing.9

Hitler's use of song helped to restore happiness and joy to the German people. It built excitement among otherwise downtrodden Germans. In doing so, it furthered the personality cult around Hitler in that Germans viewed him as the gateway to happiness and prosperity.



SYMBOLS AND IMAGES OF THE FUHRER

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Hitler scrutinized every picture of himself, allowing only images he approved to be released.2 Specifically, Hitler prevented pictures of him wearing reading glasses from being distributed.2 This, and other restrictions, represented Hitler's efforts at systematic image control. Such actions contributed to the personality cult in that they promoted a strong image of Hitler. Images, like those of Hitler wearing glasses, could have suggested weakness and detracted from his godlike image. These images of a strong and statuesque Hitler played a large role in the public perception of Hitler in that portraits were displayed everywhere in Nazi Germany, even in private homes. The image to the right shows two German women admiring a portrait of Hitler. Photo Courtesy of: Cornell Institute for Digital Collections



Artistic representations of Hitler also furthered the personality cult. Many of these images were intended to exaggerate Hitler's power or represent him as a godlike figure. The image below clearly depicts Hitler as a Christ-like figure. The bright light coming from above helps to deify Hitler. It shows him as the savior of the German people, leading the masses to prosperity and toward the common German future. Also, the words at the bottom can be translated to "Germany lives." This implies that Germany can only thrive under Hitler's leadership. It also suggests Hitler's ability to bring together the German people under a common identity. Hitler created the myth of the German Destiny, in which he convinced the German people that Germany was destined to become an "imperial and great military power."10 Hitler framed himself as the man who could lead Germany toward this destiny. In doing so, Hitler caused the personality cult around him to grow as Germans looked to him to deliver them from current destitution and into prosperity
CONCLUSION

The personality cult around Hitler was of epic proportions. Germans, generally depressed about post-WWI conditions, looked to Hitler for guidance out of their dismal circumstances. Hitler's rhetoric and symbolic representations furthered this notion of Hitler as a savior. However, these are not the only factors that contributed to the personality cult around Hitler. Further research could include the role of the media and propaganda in fueling the personality cult, as well as other influences. A comprehensive understanding of the personality cult around Hitler could supplement the debate over how seemingly ordinary Germans participated in the implementation of the Final Solution. This theory helps to show how ordinary people became emotionally attached to a charismatic leader like Hitler and, because of this attachment, were willing to embrace his ideas and carry out his plans.
REFERENCES

1. "Adolf Hitler." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 4 December 2007

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

2. "German Propaganda Archive." Calvin College. 4 Dec. 2007

www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ley2.htm

3. "Adolf Hitler." Britannica Online Encyclopedia. 4 December 2007

www.britannica.com/eb/article-9106283

4. Kershaw, Ian. The Hitler Myth: Image and Reality in the Third Reich. London: Oxford University Press, 2001.

5. Stephenson, Jill. "The Rise of the Nazis: Sonderweg or spanner in the works?" in 20th Century Germany. Politics, Culture and Society, 1918-1990.

6. Lindner, Evelin Gerda. "Were Ordinary Germans Hitler's 'Willing Executioners'?" in Idea (2000).

2 Dec. 2007. www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=31.

7. Brooks, Michael. "The Rise of Nazi Germany, 1919-1933." HistoryMike (2007).

2 Dec. 2007.

historymike.blogspot.com/2007/08/rise-of-nazi-germany-1919-1933.html

8. "Analyzing Rhetoric." Research on Contemporary Diplomacy. DiploFoundation. 4 Dec 2007

www.diplomacy.edu/Language/Rhetoric/analysing.htm

9. Hanfstaengl, Ernst. "Tristan in the Theischstrasse," in Unheard Witness. Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Company 1957, pp. 52-53.

10. "Adolf Hitler." MSN Encarta Online Encyclopedia. 3 December 2007

encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761556540/Hitler.html
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The best and also funniest parts of this :arowup: "truther's" :roll: posts are always the typical ADL hasbara sources


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^^^ Mein German troll :hahano: ^^^^


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The German forum fizzled out for them. :roll:
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^^^ Mein German troll :hahano: ^^^^


:umm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3tAEaOxLsg

The German forum fizzled out for them. :roll:



Persecutory delusion when someone of German descent responds to your Germanophobe-Adolfophobe :chuckle: propaganda on a forum?
Or rather just the typical truth-zone.net/forum/history/65188-psychopathology-of-judaism.html

I've got you !

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Hitler is Huge in Thailand: Chicken Joints, T-Shirts, and A Govt.-Issued Propaganda Video
The brigade was led by a young woman dressed as Adolf Hitler, followed by a procession of students sporting SS uniforms and fake machine guns
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/10/thailand-s-bizarre-hitler-worship-propaganda-video-issued-by-prime-minister-glorifies-nazi-leader.html
Cult worship. :roll:
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Hitler is Huge in Thailand: Chicken Joints, T-Shirts, and A Govt.-Issued Propaganda Video
The brigade was led by a young woman dressed as Adolf Hitler, followed by a procession of students sporting SS uniforms and fake machine guns
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/10/thailand-s-bizarre-hitler-worship-propaganda-video-issued-by-prime-minister-glorifies-nazi-leader.html
Cult worship. :roll:



Didn't it ever cross your .... simple mind, that it's a bit strange, to say the least,
that STALIN - LENIN - MARX - MAO - POL POT ... worship is quite mainstream and of course not prohibited
in all countries with holocaust denial laws?

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^^ The big frau trolls again^^^ :roll:

PRIMITIVE WORSHIP OF HITLER

www.garethjones.org/german_articles/welshman_looks_at_europe_12.htm
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^^ The big frau trolls again^^^ :roll:

PRIMITIVE WORSHIP OF HITLER

www.garethjones.org/german_articles/welshman_looks_at_europe_12.htm



Why is it that you never ever respond like a normal human to any comment?

Constantly trying to smear members with most PRIMITIVE insults,
the threads you start and the links you post, but especially the MACH1 speed spamming
and the subjects you avoid like the devil avoids holy water, say it all about you, tay-zax.

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Problems arise if one rejects the explanations being offered by the trolls, then their troll nature becomes apparent very quickly as they resort to ridicule, smears and abuse.


truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63393-what-is-hasbara.html?start=380#146443


You expose yourself over and over again as the prototype of a hasbara troll, tay-zax.

:yup:

The only language you seem to understand is yours => apathetic reiteration of stereotypical phrases.

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^^ The big frau trolls again^^^ :roll:

PRIMITIVE WORSHIP OF HITLER

www.garethjones.org/german_articles/welshman_looks_at_europe_12.htm



Why is it that you never ever respond like a normal human to any comment?

Constantly trying to smear members with most PRIMITIVE insults,
the threads you start and the links you post, but especially the MACH1 speed spamming
and the subjects you avoid like the devil avoids holy water, say it all about you, tay-zax.

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Incorrect on the primitive insults, that would be the filthy one. A#1. Yep.
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A HYMN OF THE HITLER YOUTH:
"NO EVIL PRIEST CAN PREVENT US FROM FEELING

THAT WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF ADOLPH HITLER

AWAY WITH THE INCENSE AND HOLY WATER

THE SWASTIKA BRINGS SALVATION ON EARTH"


There is one myth we need to debunk that's a favorite nowadays of not only occultniks and Neopagans, but all haters of Christianity. One favorite rant I often hear from Wiccans and Neopagans and others is that "Hitler was a Christian!", and thus all Christians should be lumped together with him (which is the kind of reasoning bigots use). I have even heard this lie repeated by Christian ministers who should know better!

A variation of this idea was that Hitler was a Catholic, and the Holocaust was yet another "pogrom" that Hitler carried out by order of the Vatican (!). People who believe this stuff should be careful the squirrels don't bury them. While it is true that Hitler was baptized a Roman Catholic as an infant and even claimed he considered the priesthood as a young man, but this does not mean he held these beliefs all his life. If you count Hitler being a Christian in his youth, then you would have to count most Wiccans, Satanists, Scientologists, etc., as Christians since many of them come from Christian backgrounds as well.

Hitler was born in 1889 in Austria, and was indeed baptized a Roman Catholic as a baby, but as he got older, he abandoned his Christian faith. But so that he could win the German people to his way of thinking, he kept up the pretense of being a Christian when he became "Der Fuhrer".


Despite the belief by many pagans and even many Christians alike, Hitler was NOT a Christian. Hitler despised Jews and anything remotely Jewish and so naturally he despised Christianity. Hitler once said in a speech that "Christianity is the greatest trick the Jews every played on humanity". Does this sound like something a Christian would say??? Even though there are some neo-Nazi groups that claim to be "Christian" it doesn't make them so. You can claim to be a bullfrog and even go so far to paint yourself green, but it doesn't make you a bullfrog. In fact, had such "Nazi-Christian" groups existed in Hitler's Germany they would have surely been liquidated after the war. There was to only be one religion in the new Germany had Hitler won, and that religion would have been a state-run version of the Neopagan religion called Odinism.



There are statements Hitler made that could lead one to the conclusion Hitler was a Christian, but only if you're Naive. For instance, in Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." (Mein Kampf Pg 33, English Translation)

"The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation was built up. They regard Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as a basis of national life." (Hitler to the German People: Feb. 1 1933).

So Hitler not only tried to make himself sound like a Christian, and even tried to make anti-Semitism sound like a Christian cause. When reading such statements, people must use common sense (if you don’t possess any, please get some). First of all, Mein Kampf was not meant to be a book of factual statements, but instead meant to be a sort of sales brochure for evil. After all, Hitler never said "I plan to kill all the Jews in the whole world and get Germany in another world war! I will also kill anyone I don’t like, including Freemasons, handicapped people, Trade Unionists, or Jehovah’s Witnesses. I’ll make soap and dog food out of them in concentration camps. After that, I will eliminate Christianity altogether and replace it with a nationalistic Neopagan religion. Whoever defies me will be killed!".

But these are exactly the things he was planning while he was writing Mien Kampf. He couldn't tell people all his crazy schemes or what he really thought or he never would have come to power. Common sense can detect this is true.


Hitler’s Views on Christianity: The Facts


Let's look at a few things before you decide Hitler was a Christian. Here are some quotes which show what Hitler really thought of Christianity from the people that were in his inner circle:

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains...The war will be over one day. I shall then consider that my life's final task will be to solve the religious problem." [Hitler’s Table Talk, p. 142-4]

"Christianity is the biggest lie the Jews ever told humanity"

-- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

"When National Socialism has ruled long enough, it will no longer be possible to conceive of a form of life different from ours. In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together…The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity." [Hitler's Table Talk, p. 6-7]

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." [p. 51]

"Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline."[Hitler's Table Talk, pp 58-62]

"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?'" [Speer, Albert, Inside the Third Reich, Bonanza Books, New York, p. 96]

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity." [Hitler's Table Talk, p. 75]

"The Jew who fraudulently introduced Christianity into the ancient world----in order to ruin it----re-opened the same breach in modern times, taking as his pretext the social question. Just as Saul became St. Paul, Mardochai has become Karl Marx." [p. 314]

People who want to paint Hitler as a Christian (including some Neo-Nazis) state the above claims come mainly from the" recollections" of his followers and therefore may not be true, and then brainlessly fall back on quotes from Mien Kampf to paint Hitler as a Christian. But as we see, there are too many of these "recollections"(and from people who were closest to him no less) for it to not accurately reflect what Hitler thought about the Christians. Who would better know what Hitler really thought than the people closest around him? This may come as a shock for the more naive readers, but Adolph Hitler was not well known for his truth telling abilities! Mein Kampf is a book of lies. Are we also to believe the other things written in Mein Kampf, including German racial superiority, and an international conspiracy of Jews taking over the world? Hitler, like any dictator, lied to suit the situation as he saw fit.

Germany’s population followed the Christian religion, and Hitler knew that he needed the support of Christians, or else he would not be supported as the undisputed leader of Germany. Hitler merely claimed to be a Christian solely for political purposes. Albert Speer, the architect and weapons procurer for the Third Reich reveals why Hitler did not immediately gas Christians in the death camps. Albert Speer noted in his memoirs, " Around 1937, when Hitler heard the at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide." [ Inside The Third Reich by Albert Speer Pg. 146]


A person claiming they have "no real attachment" to the church is not a Christian! A person who uses church membership to further aims of world domination is not a Christian! Just going to church does not make one a Christian, going into a chicken coop does not make one a chicken! The enemies of the Christian religion try to paint Hitler as a Christian to detract from it. When Christians see such claims, we must fight back through the courts. We cannot allow these lies to continue.

Far from embracing Christianity, the Nazi’s, in fact, instituted a policy known as "Kircenkampf" (literally meaning "against the Church"), which was a campaign against the churches, both Roman Catholic AND protestant. The plan was to gradually eliminate Christianity and replace it with Odinism! The plan was not publicly announced, but the signs of it were obvious, and certainly Hitler’s inner circle knew of Kircenkampf. For some Nazis, Kircenkampf wasn’t going fast enough. Martin Bormann was one such Nazi who would have loved to have eliminated Christianity before the war ended.

"In Bormann’s mind, the Kirchenkampf, the campaign against the churches, was useful for reactivating party ideology which had been lying dormant. He was the driving force behind this campaign, as was made time and time again made plain around our round table. Hitler was hesitant, but only because he would rather postpone this problem to a more favorable time. Here in Berlin, surrounded by male cohorts, he spoke more coarsely and bluntly than he ever did in the midst of his Obersalzberg entourage. ‘Once I have settled my other problems,’ he occasionally declared, ‘I’ll have my reckoning with the church. I’ll have it reeling on the ropes." [Inside the Third Riech by Albert Speer pg 147]

Clearly Hitler and the Nazi high command wanted to eliminate all Christian Churches. It was not really a question of "if" but "when". Neopagans like Bormann wanted it done immediately, but Hitler wanted to wait until he had won World War II, and then with the world conquered. Hitler knew he needed people to fight for him, and he had to pay lip service to the church until his aims were met, and then he could destroy it. Hitler’s hatred for Judaism and all things Jewish was all consuming, so the tyrant, any Christian church was just another form of Judaism.



IF HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN, WHY DID HE SURROUND HIMSELF WITH PEOPLE INTO ODINISM AND THE OCCULT LIKE RUDOLPH HESS AND HIMMLER? WHY DID HITLER USE PAGAN RUNE SYMBOLS THROUGHOUT THE NAZI EMPIRE RATHER THAN CHRISTAN ONES? TO SEE THE PAGAN AND RUNE SYMBOLS USED BY NAZI GERMANY CLICK HERE.




New Evidence Discovered


In 2001 new documents from the Nuremberg trials were declassified and released to the public by Rutgers Law School that do indeed confirm Hitler was going to eradicate Christianity after the war had he won. The documents including original handwritten notes, appear on the web site of the Rutgers University School of Law in New Jersey in the United States. General William J Donovan, an investigator at the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg after World War II compiled The 148 volumes of material. According to Julie Seltzer Mandel in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer, "A lot of people will say, 'I didn't realize that they were trying to convert Christians to a Nazi philosophy...[the Nazis] wanted to eliminate Jews altogether, but they were also looking to eliminate Christianity."

The first installment, entitled "The Nazi Master Plan; The Persecution of Christian Churches", describes how the Nazis planned to replace Christianity with a religion based on racial superiority and the worship of Germanic gods like Thor and Odin. The report, prepared by the O.S.S. ( the forerunner of the CIA) states: "Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked... complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion...The best evidence now available as to the existence of an anti-Church plan is to be found in the systematic nature of the persecution itself...Different steps in that persecution, such as the campaign for the suppression of denominational and youth organizations, the campaign against denominational schools, the defamation campaign against the clergy, started on the same day in the whole area of the Reich...and were supported by the entire regimented press, by Nazi Party meetings, by traveling party speakers"

Eradicating Christianity is definitely not the actions of a Christian! In fact, Hitler was not a Christian at all, and I think that point is clear now (except to those who want to cling to conspiracy theories). Hitler's hatred of Jews was all consuming. He saw Christianity as just another "Jewish cult". It is true that he considered Jews a "race" rather than a religion, but his hatred for Christians seemed only slightly less. But unlike something genetic, a person's religion can be changed. So the Nazis would have used great coercion to stop the Christian faith, and would have executed the remainder who refused. Thank God Hitler lost I am not sitting here writing this as an Odinist. Wait a second, why would I be writing this as an Odinist?

I guess I wouldn’t be !

And thank God for brave men like my late father, a PFC in the 3rd Army Rangers, who fought against the Nazi Pagan devils. They knew the Holocaust really happened because they saw it.
usminc.org/hitler.html


The article is excellent and describes the pagans and occultists here that use the Christian angle when it suits them and then deride it when they need to defend their pagan views.
They will pull up some obscure quote by Adolph allegedly defending Christianity when the truth is the opposite.
Catholicism is not Christianity and there were many Catholics in the hierarchy,and certainly the Rat Lines show that the Vatican protected and aided the Germans during and after the war.
No amount of derailing by the German gang here will change the facts.
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