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TOPIC: PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s)

PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 18 Oct 2015 06:26 #1

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Mystery Babylon and The rise of modern paganism

By Don Koenig

The Bible says that in the last days there will be a falling away from the true faith to doctrines of demons. The book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ tells us that in the end time a woman riding a Beast will appear (this pagan god riding a beast of burden is today displayed all over Europe as one of the symbols for the European Union). The woman on the Beast in Revelation is Mystery Babylon. The Beast according to Daniel and Revelation will come out of the area of the Roman empire. It will be the last Gentile world empire before the return of Christ. The woman on the Beast is described as a harlot, she is the world religious system led from Rome. She is identified as a harlot because she retains the name of God but has been infiltrated by pagan Babylonian doctrines of demons. She rides on the back of the last Gentile world empire but the Beast that will arise in the last days will hate her and devour her.

As a foreshadow Hitler used the Roman Church to get into power but documents now tell us that after the Jews were killed, Christians were to be next. In the same way, the world leader that will rise in Europe will get guidance and direction from the Vatican. (She will control all world religion in the end time.) However, in the end, the world leader (Antichrist) will claim to be above anything called God and seek to kill all those who will not worship him as God. When Satan indwells the Antichrist he will throw off anything identified with Christianity and Judaism, and paganism will rise to power in the world.

Many wonder how satanic religion could come to power in this day and age. We think we are too sophisticated to worship demons, practice witchcraft or be in the occult. However, if you examine the beliefs of world religions and the "new age/new spirituality" movement you will see that the demonic deceptions of neo-paganism and eastern philosophies have already infiltrated the whole world and most of what is called Christianity.

Some say paganism is not satanic since most pagans claim they do not worship Satan. However, adoration of any god or goddess outside of the true God of the Bible is idolatry and is satanically inspired. The belief that spiritual power can come to an individual outside of the God of creation through self-effort, by forces in nature, or from spirits separated from the biblical God, descends from the mystery religion of Babylonian paganism. In the final analysis, they all worship what is created instead of the Creator.

All world religious beliefs not founded on the absolute truths of the Bible have descended from Mystery Babylon and can therefore be described as religions from Babylonian paganism. Those who claim they are not pagans because they are not witches do not understand this common root and source of all polytheistic and pantheistic beliefs. The Bible says there is nothing new under the sun. There is nothing new in witchcraft, "New Age/New Spirituality" or in eastern polytheistic religions because they all came from the same root source. All these beliefs originated from Babylonian mystery religion that goes back to the rebellion against God at the tower of Babel over 4,000 years ago.


The "New Age/New Spirituality Movement" is a loose collection of many things that have pagan roots. This modern pagan movement is nothing more than ancient paganism put in a new package. The polytheistic religious of the East and those in "New Age/New Spirituality" beliefs and witchcraft all have a common root source in ancient Babylon and they share the common polytheist and/or pantheist beliefs of the mystery religion that began at Babylon.

Most "New Age" leaders have now rejected the term "New Age" they call themselves part of the "New Spirituality" movement. However, be assured, no matter how much they like to deny being "New Age", this "New Spirituality Movement" contains the same beliefs of "New Age" doctrine and Babylonian paganism. It just has a refined title. The "new spirituality movement" is a more refined pagan movement for those who rejected certain silly practices that were identified with the "New Age" movement. This "New Spirituality" concept or movement is the latest effort to make polytheistic and pantheistic beliefs acceptable to the mainstream public.


There are a few core beliefs that unites all the various forms of modern paganism but there are many common themes.


The "New Age" or "New Spirituality" movement in a nutshell:

We are all powerful spirit beings
We pre-existed before our present lives on earth
Reincarnation
Pantheism
Worship of the creation rather than the Creator
The human species will evolve into its Christ consciousness or God state
God is a force, everyone and everything is part of this creative force
Because God is in everything, collective thoughts create reality
The mother earth is part of the force and she is a living entity
If human abuse of mother earth continues she will have to defend herself with severe natural upheavals
We must reduce our population and eliminate all the negative thinking people (Monotheistic fundamentalism) by education or removal
Some in the "New Age" believe that our parent species are alien life forms. They say these aliens planted us here sometime in the past and that they are due to return. This belief will set the world up for the great deception
Some popular doctrines of demons, mystical practices, "New Age" or "New Spirituality" names, and themes: (many are in churches)

Getting in touch with your inner self
Inner healing
Signs and wonder ministries
The course in miracles
Contact with ascended masters
Contact with aliens
Soul travel
Out of body experiences
Near death experiences
Spirit Guides
Yoga
Positive confession
Possibility thinking
Your words have power, so you can speak things into existence
Imaging
Evolution
Visions from Mary
Apparitions related to Mary
Crying statues
Slaying in the Spirit
Laughing, barking and other strange out of control behavior claimed to have come by the power of the Spirit
Schools claiming to be Christian that teach one how to become a prophet
Witchcraft
Shamanism
Altered states of consciousness
Hypnotism
Collective consciousness
Tolerance for forbidden practices
Reaching Christ consciousness
Sweat lodges
The lord Maitreya
The Krishna
Maitreya Buddha
Imam Mahdi
Dalai Lama
The power of positive thinking
Gaia
The reincarnation of Christ in another body
There are many paths to God/all religion leads to God
Unity
Mormons
Masons
Scientology
Zen Buddhism
We are about to evolve to a higher life form
Animal rights and elevation of other species to the level of human beings
Alternative lifestyles
Rejection of Judo Christian morality and beliefs
There are no moral absolutes
Vegetarianism, health food, organic food products (as a higher life style)
Holistic healing, alternative medicine (taken to mystical extremes)
Psychics, remote viewers, channelers, astrologers, fortune tellers
Team concepts (to replace individualism)
Personality typing or profiling
Diversity training
Correct thinking people/right thinking people
The basic goodness of man
Personal gurus
Self improvement seminars
Outcome based education
It takes a village
You can be anything you want to be
Abortion, birth control, family planning, the right to choose
Alien encounters
Harry Potter books and movies
Psycho therapy
Reincarnation
Dominionism
Word of Faith
Latter Rain movement
New apostolic reformation
Joel’s Army
Manifest Sons of God
Replacement Theology
Supersession Theology
The force
Wizards
Edgar Casey
Pyramid power
Crystal power
New Spirituality
Kabbalah (also Qabalah, Cabala, Qaballah, Qabala, Kaballah)
"The Secret"
Alternate lifestyles
Communism disguised as social justice
All paths lead to God
Contemplative prayer
Centering prayer
Spiritual Reformation
Emergent church or Vintage Christianity (some concepts)
Many Christians identify with a few of the bullets listed above and a few of them may not necessarily be demonic. However, it certainly is demonic if it conflicts with the absolute truths of biblical Christianity. "New Age" or "New Spirituality" beliefs have infiltrated the liberal main line Protestant churches. Some "New Age" beliefs have even infiltrated many Evangelical and Pentecostal churches. (For example - so called ongoing movements of the spirit such as the laughing movement, the anointing of God is on me/slain in the spirit movement, the speak it into existence "Word of faith" clones, and the traveling circus healing gurus can hardly be distinguished from methods and practices used in the occult "New Age"/"New Spirituality" movement)

Now some of the leadership of the purpose driven seeker friendly church growth movement are pushing paraphrases of the Bible that have "New Age" terms (i.e. "The Message") and teaching in popular books that God is in everything and everyone (pantheism). They also teach psycho therapy from theories of psychology as truth.

The largest Protestant denominations have large numbers of their membership and leadership in the occult organization known as the Masons (whether the individual member actually is aware of its occult roots, teachings and practices or not).

The latest movement among the young that still identify with Christianity is the Emerging church movement. It has incorporated Eastern pagan altered state techniques and mysticism as a replacement for sound biblical theology.

Many Catholic practices are also pagan and parallel "New Age" theology. Most Catholics will not have any problem embracing any doctrine said to come from a Mary apparition or the so called vicar of Christ (the Pope). Unfortunately most Catholics do not embrace the scriptures as they ought and follow traditions of men instead of the word of God; They make the sacrifice of the atonement of Jesus insufficient and leave themselves wide open to demonic deception.

Just a few pagan practices in the Roman Catholic Church:

The rituals and practices of a priesthood to intercede and rule over the laity
A infallible vicar of Christ
Rote prayer
The Rosary (rote prayer to Mary for intercession)
Scapulars
Indulgences
Worship of Mary (in reality this pagan demon god with child pre-existed Mary and was known in the Old Testament as the Queen of Heaven)
Holy Rituals
Sacraments
Holy water
The mission, practices, and methods of the Jesuits
Eucharistic Christ (The bread and wine becoming the body and blood of Christ whenever conjured up by a priest)
Signs of the time

Paganism and Satan worship is the final form of religion before the second coming of Christ. Halfway through the tribulation the world rejects Judaism and Christianity. All remaining believers are told to come out of Babylon (Rev 18:4). At that point in time persecution by pagans begins in earnest against the believers of Jehovah/Jesus all over the world.

Modern paganism is on an exponential rise and is now found in all religions. It even has great influence in the forming of the new European super state. Paganism has taken over so much of our government in the US and Canada that the real God of creation cannot even be acknowledged in our schools, courts and public places. Pagan practices are now being set up, practiced and enforced at every level of society including in many of our churches.

It is obvious to the astute that there are many in high places who are pushing modern paganism as the answer to the world's problems. If you doubt the power of these modern pagan idealists look at what has happened in Europe. There are now 28 nation states in the EU. This is not the final configuration but a new Roman Empire will reemerge in some form under a central government and a single constitution. Many who said Europe would arise as a world power were laughed at just a couple of decades ago. Now look a decade or two in the future and honestly tell me that a world government will not be implemented by these same brand of idealists. After all, The EU is just a pilot project or working model of the one world pagan socialist utopia that they envision.

We are seeing what the prophets said would happen in the last days. It would be foolish to think that we are not living in the times that were written about when we can actually see political and religious leaders dancing to the end time script of evil puppet masters. Political and religious Mystery Babylon is ascending to the center stage and it is happening in this prophetic generation.
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 18 Oct 2015 19:31 #3

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Semitic Neopaganism / Jewitchery and Jewish Witchcraft

pagan.wikia.com/wiki/Semitic_Neopaganism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_neopaganism

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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 18 Oct 2015 20:39 #4

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The roots of paganism, as with all religious ideologies, is primitive superstition and the human yearning to have an answer for everything. There's no immaterial sky daddies, or even cheap human impersonations of gods moving the planets and dictating the weather, it's all just shit happening and humans riding the wave.
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 18 Oct 2015 22:30 #5

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In short this image really covers the entire issue....

All things in this World are man made (Soul Body); to get out of it you have to reject this World outright. (Get out of your body; strip out of your clothing & Soul which covers & blocks out the logical Spirit Mind!)
Same thing if you reject the Symbolic Satan image & what it really stands for!
Its also the "End of the World" Symbolic & being born again without ever being a part of there World system..

The World is a Man made reality ....... the Earth & all living things is natures reality!

All these verses hinting to the exact same thing..... (yes there is nothing new under the Sun!)
No one even needs to be religious to grasp the logical meaning contained within it....

10. Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."
16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.
For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

21. Mary said to Jesus, "What are your disciples like?"

He said, "They are like little children living in a field that is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Give us back our field.' They take off their clothes in front of them in order to give it back to them, and they return their field to them.

For this reason I say, if the owners of a house know that a thief is coming, they will be on guard before the thief arrives and will not let the thief break into their house (their domain) and steal their possessions.

As for you, then, be on guard against the world. Prepare yourselves with great strength, so the robbers can't find a way to get to you, for the trouble you expect will come.

Let there be among you a person who understands.

When the crop ripened, he came quickly carrying a sickle and harvested it. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

24. His disciples said, "Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it."
He said to them, "Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

27. "If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father."

28. Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.

But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways."

51. His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"
He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it." >> (because of blind believing ignorance!)

56. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."

110. Jesus said, "Let one who has found the world, and has become wealthy, renounce the world." >> (renounce Satan's World same thing!)

111. Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will roll up in your presence, and whoever is living from the living one will not see death." >> (roll up the Mount to higher grounds;(higher mindedness & Spiritual understanding Wisdom))

Does not Jesus say, "Those who have found themselves, of them the world is not worthy"?

The symbolic number meaning of 111 = The beginning of Wisdom!
Properties of the number 111
Symbolism


Symbol of the Trinity of God, One and Three times Saint. It represents the God-Father in the Holy Trinity. It symbolizes also the Sky.

A solar number according to the Cabal and the Tarot.

Bible
The sum of chapters of the four Gospels plus those of the Revelation (Apocalypse) gives as result 111: 89 for Gospels and 22 for the Revelation of John.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu111.php

You see the real deal GOD IMAGE did not created the World ... because that was the fictive god which said >>>>
(“I am God, and there is no God but me!”) :iitm: :thdown:

Bk 1 Chpt 1 Vs 1 = 111
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1) Earth = the Mother/Father life giving & supporting reality body.
2) Heaven = Higher Spiritual mind & Wisdom.
3) World = Simple Man made World system. (Satan's World!)

Yes once you renounce Satan; you also renounced his/this World at the same time!


Yes it all makes logical comm & sense in Human Spiritual understanding terms & philosophical illustrated symbolical talks!
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 18 Oct 2015 22:32 #6

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If you think anything you've just typed makes "logical common sense" you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

ps. Just try and explain why anybody should renounce an imaginary entity that has been used to control gullible peasants?
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ragnarok wrote:
If you think anything you've just typed makes "logical common sense" you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

ps. Just try and explain why anybody should renounce an imaginary entity that has been used to control gullible peasants?
To understand these things you got to have a logical mind & not just a mouth connected to your body only!

And what the hell is imaginary on this f@cked up World which simple man like yourself created with there mouths only?

You don't understand the meaning in the first place ....... so you don't even know what is imaginary or real.

Its clearly not me living in Hollywood TV cuckoo land where just about everything is based on Religious Talmud תַּלְמוּד Hebrew man made scripts & there own made symbolism!

And how many Talmud תַּלְמוּד script plays you just watched on your holy TV black Box today alone?
What was it last American idol; or UK idol!

Or do you follow there HOLY COW of Wall-street? ▼▼
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<< Talking about Fiat-Jew; Fiat-Money real illusionary cuckoo land!

Very much PAGANISM like; to follow there created Animal farm system!

Most out there in there World are more PAGAN then they even imagine!
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How do you pay for your internet connection? Do you use the fiat jew banking system, or do you pay in shiny buttons?
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Just get ready for it ... if you understand its meaning!

As in the old saying "nothing lasts forever."
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In modern-day European-based folklore, Death is known as the Grim Reaper depicted in the as wearing a dark hooded cloak and wielding a scythe.

The garb of Death or the black mourning robe, which the first references are found in the early fifteenth century, is very close to the robe of the priest or monk who officiated at the death bed. It is interesting to note that the dead body itself was never garbed in black -- the colour of the winding sheet or shroud seems always to have been white.

The scythe is an image that reminds us that Death reaps the souls of sinners like the peasant harvest corn in his field. Each movement of the scythe brings thousands of souls.
In Greek mythology, Chronos (Cronus) was the king of titans and the father of Zeus. He was also a harvest god called Father Time and carried a sickle which is a tool used in harvesting grain. The Grim Reaper carrying a scythe are directly derived from Cronus. The myth of Chronos eating his children was used in a poetic sense for time devouring all things, as in the old saying "nothing lasts forever."

The three Greek words that were either related originally or related through confusion later were: Chronus (meaning "time"), Cronus (the god of harvest before the Greek gods took over), and corone (meaning "crow"). Little wonder then that we often see a crow accompanying the Grim Reaper.
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^There is another pagan deity that is accompanied by crows. ODIN. Cronus aka Saturn.
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 19 Oct 2015 11:23 #11

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You're speaking in riddles, oiram. Stop pretending you are some kind of mystic and try responding for once as if you were talking to somebody in the real world, rather than one where everyone understands and believes your quasi-religious mumbo-jumbo.
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^There is another pagan deity that is accompanied by crows. ODIN. Cronus aka Saturn.

May I add the two headed Hindu idol Shani dev

who is embodied in the planet Saturn and is the Lord of Saturday.

Shani dev is also known as Śanaiścara rides a crow


Shani Dev is one of the most popular deities that the Hindus pray to ward off evil and remove obstacles.

Shani literally means the “slow-moving-one”. According to myths, Shani oversees the "dungeons of the human heart and the dangers that lurks there."

Shani is represented as having a dark complexion and is said to be the son of Surya, the sun god, and Chaya, the servant whom his wife Swarna surrogated.
He is the brother of Yama, the god of death and is believed by many to be an avatar of Shiva.

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Don't forget to give a mention to Mogwais, unicorns and the Sith lords, while we are talking about fictional characters, creatures and entities.
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Don't forget to give a mention to Mogwais, unicorns and the Sith lords, while we are talking about fictional characters, creatures and entities.

We could include Ragnarok in that list too I suppose :dunno:

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I don't have to believe in the mythology to like the username.
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I don't have to believe in the mythology to like the username.

"Ragnarökr" or "Ragnarøkr" means "Doom of the Gods", also called die Gotterdammerung,

what gods you think are dooming ?
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Every last fanciful one of them human beings have imagined. It's only fitting that a human should destroy the gods, seeing as a human invented the first one. We become great by doing great things, not by imagining them done by celestial beings.
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Every last fanciful one of them human beings have imagined. It's only fitting that a human should destroy the gods, seeing as a human invented the first one. We become great by doing great things, not by imagining them done by celestial beings.

How can a human destroy something that is ''invented''

Does the imaginary excist?
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 19 Oct 2015 21:45 #19

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"Destroy" is a misstatement. I suppose "transform into a more useful mental pasttime" would be more accurate. The end result will be that declaring reverence for any named god will be as embarrassing as declaring that you own everything Black Lace committed to vinyl.
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PAGANISM, It's Roots, Its Symbolism & It's Foe(s) 20 Oct 2015 00:16 #20

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ragnarok wrote:
Every last fanciful one of them human beings have imagined. It's only fitting that a human should destroy the gods, seeing as a human invented the first one. We become great by doing great things, not by imagining them done by celestial beings.
They did not invented the first one ....... it was man which presented the first one & all others which followed.

Its exactly what they doing to each other for more then 6000 years. Destroying each other!

It is man which plays God and Gods & he given the name towards himself.


The wise man told them this reality:
Psalm 82:6
I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Only Gods having names .......... the most High has no name & is unnameable; not being man in the first place.

He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.


The Savior said to them: "I want you to know that all men are born on earth from the foundation of the world until now, being dust, while they have inquired about God, who he is and what he is like, have not found him. Now the wisest among them have speculated from the ordering of the world and (its) movement. But their speculation has not reached the truth. For it is said that the ordering is directed in three ways, by all the philosophers, (and) hence they do not agree. For some of them say about the world that it is directed by itself. Others, that it is providence (that directs it). Others, that it is fate. But it is none of these. Again, of the three voices I have just mentioned, none is close to the truth, and (they are) from man. But I, who came from Infinite Light, I am here - for I know him (Light) - that I might speak to you about the precise nature of the truth. For whatever is from itself is a polluted life; it is self-made. Providence has no wisdom in it. And fate does not discern. But to you it is given to know; and whoever is worthy of knowledge will receive (it), whoever has not been begotten by the sowing of unclean rubbing but by First Who Was Sent, for he is an immortal in the midst of mortal men."

Matthew said to him: "Lord, no one can find the truth except through you. Therefore teach us the truth."

The Savior said: "He Who Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world until now, except he alone, and anyone to whom he wants to make revelation through him who is from First Light. From now on, I am the Great Savior. For he is immortal and eternal. Now he is eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. Since no one rules over him, he has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another."

(BG 84, 13-17 adds: He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another).

"And he has a semblance of his own - not like what you have seen and received, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the universe. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. Since it is infinite, he is ever incomprehensible. He is imperishable and has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is eternal. He is blessed. While he is not known, he ever knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishability blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'".

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