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TOPIC: The Expert Witness the legitimacy of Criticising Jewish Supremacy & Criminality.

The Expert Witness the legitimacy of Criticising Jewish Supremacy & Criminality. 11 Nov 2015 20:25 #1

I didn't quite know where to post this. I guess it deserves it's own thread anyway. Some of you may already be aware of the Arthur Topham trial taking place in Canada at the moment?

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The following is the first part of Gilad Atzmon’s Expert Witness Testimony at Arthur Topham’s criminal trial. This part contains a brief summary of Atzmon’s perception of the Jews and their politics. In the next part Atzmon will explain how these ideas serve to vindicate all forms of criticism of Jewish politics, ideology, symbols, rituals and so on.

Attorney Barclay Johnson: Mr Atzmon, can you please elaborate on the notion of Jewish Identity Politics.

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: Identity politics is a relatively new study that looks into the meaning and the means of identification of various groups. Instead of asking what is X or Y, identity politics delves into the question of what identifying as X or Y may entail. I have gone through the court case documentation and detected a considerable lack of understanding of the complexity of the terminology related to Jewish matters: identity, religion, race and politics. In particular, I encountered confusion in the comprehension of the crucial distinction among:

A: Judaism (the religion)

B: The Jews (the people)

C: Jewishness (the ideology)

In order to grasp these notions we must elaborate first on the meaning of Jewish Identity Politics.

Instead of asking what or who are the Jews, we will simplify the question. We will ask what those who identify themselves as Jews mean by that.

Years of studying of Jewish identity politics led me to the conclusion that we are dealing with three non-exclusive categories.

A: The Religion – people who identify as Jews because they believe and follow the Torah/Talmud. Ladies and gentlemen-this category is innocent. The history of hundreds of years of rabbinical Judaism proves that orthodox Jews have never been involved in a genocidal act against another people.

B: Ethnicity – people who identify as Jews due to ancestry and family lineage. Ladies and gentlemen, this category is also innocent. Having a Jewish mother doesn’t make one into a war criminal!

C: Politics – those who identify politically as Jews. Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, this category is far from innocent. Zionism-the promise to bring about a Jewish homeland in Palestine was executed at the expense of another people: namely the Palestinians. But Zionism is not alone. In fact all forms of Jewish politics are racially exclusive. Ask yourself, can Mr. Topham or any other ‘Goy’ (gentile, non-Jew) in this room join the group ‘Jews for Peace’ or ‘Jews for Human Rights’? The answer is NO. And why? Because the Goyim in the room are not racially qualified. The conclusion is inevitable. The 3rd category is racially oriented and to a certain extent, racist to the bone. ‘Jews for peace’ is in practice as racist and exclusive as “Aryans for Palestine” or “Whites for free love.” And yet, most of us would react angrily to White only clubs but we are somehow forgiving when it comes to Jews only associations.


Attorney Barclay Johnson: Mr Atzmon, please make sure that we understand you correctly. Are Jews a race?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: Not at all. Jews are neither a race nor they are a biological entity, but Jewish politics is always racist or at least driven by racial orientation!


Attorney Barclay Johnson: How does the model you sketched above help to understand Israeli politics, Jewish Identity or progress in this court case?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: In practice, every Jew who identifies as a Jew subscribes to one, two or three of the categories above. Let’s examine the case of an American Jewish settler living in occupied West Bank. Yes he follows the Torah (1st category), yes he is Jew by ancestry (2nd category) and certainly, he identifies politically as a Jew (3rd category). But what about the Jewish Marxists who went as far as Spain to fight Franco in the name of the revolution? These revolutionary Jews didn’t follow the Jewish religion, they were not the 1st category. They only subscribed to the 2nd and the 3rd categories. What about Noam Chomsky? He is not a religious Jew. Again, he only subscribes to the 2nd and the 3rd categories. He is a Jew by ancestry and also identifies politically as a Jew[1]. Albert Einstein? The Jury is out on that one but it would be reasonable to argue that he subscribes to the 2nd category.

I argue that it is the Jewish political element, the subscription to the 3rd category that leads towards some unsavoury acts whether they be the cold blood murder of Palestinian families or extensive Jewish Lobbying in the West. Those acts deserve criticism, politically and ideologically.


Attorney Barclay Johnson: But how does this model help this court to further its understanding the case of Arthur Topham or the accusation of hate speech?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: As I mentioned before, categories 1 & 2 are totally innocent. And indeed, no one really criticises Neturei Karta (Torah Jews) or Satmar Jews in related to Israeli crimes in Palestine. These two ultra orthodox Jewish groups made it clear that they oppose the crimes committed by the Jewish State and Zionism. Moreover, nowadays, no one really criticises Jews as a race, biology or ethnicity. What we do see is opposition Jewish politics and ideology. However and this is crucial. In the West we tend to believe that every politics & ideology must be subject to political and ideological criticism. My Lord, if every form of politics and ideology must be subject to criticism, this rule must be applied also to Jewish politics and ideology, and as far as I can tell, Jewish politics and ideology deserves a lot of criticism.


Attorney Barclay Johnson: But it seems as if Jews are often feel hated if their politics is criticised.

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: Correct, yet, the fact that Jews feel hated doesn’t mean that anyone really hates them. It is also be possible that some Jews feel hated because they actually project their own hatred onto others.



Attorney Barclay Johnson: I am slightly confused here it seems as if we are dealing with a sophisticated multi layered identity.

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: You are totally correct, this topic is indeed confusing and for a reason. Contemporary Diaspora Jewish politics struggles to maintain this confusion because it stifles any from of criticism of Jewish politics. In order to understand this construct we should imagine the following kosher trinity.

When we criticise Jewish politics (Israel, Zionism, the Lobby etc’) some Jews are“racially offended” in spite of the fact that race, biology, blood or ethnicity was never mentioned. When we criticise Jewish racism some Jews hide behind the argument that we are criticizing their religion. When we occasionally criticise the religion or some obscene Jewish religious teaching we are quick to learn that Jews are hardly religious anymore (which is true by the way). The meaning of it is simple, yet devastating. The Jewish triangle makes it very difficult, or even impossible to criticise Jewish politics, ideology and racism because the Identity is set as a field with a tri-polar gravity centre. The identity morphs endlessly. The contemporary 3rd category (political) Jew is everywhere and nowhere simultaneously, this is the quantum mechanics that is set to supress any possible criticism.



Attorney Barclay Johnson: In the last 7 days this court learned about some very problematic segments within the Talmud and the Torah. Yet, you insist here that the religion is innocent. Can you please enlighten us about the role of religion?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: This is a crucial point. While I argue that the Jewish religion is an innocent category, this is far from saying that Judaism is clean of some very problematic teachings and even racist and supremacist preaching.

Here is the problem. The historical facts are plain. In spite of some very problematic Judaic teachings that are both Talmud and Torah related, rabbinical Jews have never been involved in any collective murderous attempt against anyone else. This fact suggests that in spite of some horrid segments, it was actually the Talmud that restrained the Jews for centuries. Such a view vindicates the Talmud despite its uncomfortable teachings. But things are about to get very uncomfortable now.

It is not a secret that in contemporary Israel, it is the orthodox Jews and the followers of the Talmud who lead the most racist and murderous abuse of the indigenous Palestinian population. Thus, we have a clear question to answer. If it was the Talmud that restrained the Jews for centuries, why doesn’t it restrain orthodox Israeli Jews now? The orthodox rabbis argue that it is the addition of political orientation that interfered with Judaic peaceful teaching.

Another possible answer is that we were wrong all along. It wasn’t the Talmud that restrained the Jews, actually it was the ‘anti-Semitic’ church that repressed Jews. The collapse of the Church together with the rise of Israel and the influential Jewish lobbies in the West have led to a severe sense of impunity that is translated into a tsunami of violence and rise of Jewish supremacy that is religiously driven.

Here are some marbles taken from the Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, an Israeli Chief Sepharadi Rabbi. www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-ovadia-yosefs-most-controversial-quotations/

On Goyim:

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.” Weekly Saturday night sermon in October 2010

On Muslims:

“They’re stupid. Their religion is as ugly as they are.”

— Weekly Saturday night sermon in December 2009.

I cannot judge whether this is indeed the case but I can clearly say that the only way to deal with these issues is to discuss them openly and to make sure that as much information as possible is available to all of us. Ladies and Gentlemen, I do believe that this is the principle that guides Arthur Topham, who for over 30 years has made some of the most important texts on the matter available to us all.

I wouldn’t know about‘Germany Must Perish’ unless Mr Topham had made it into a satire. Would you? Even the Crown Expert, Mr Rudner, admitted that he wasn’t aware of the text and actually confirmed by this admission the importance of the Radical Press. Two days ago Mr Rudner admitted that ‘Germany Must Perish’ is a hateful text. Congratulation to Mr Rudner. It took the Jewish world more than 7 decades to denounce one of the most horrible Jewish texts ever. Is not Mr Rudner long awaited denunciation the direct outcome of Mr Topham’s satire?



Attorney Barclay Johnson: History. In your book, ‘The Wandering Who,’ you delve into the notion of History and Jewish history in particular. Can you please elaborate on the topic and its relevance within the context of ‘Holocaust denial’ and so-called ‘hatred?’

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: History becomes a meaningful adventure once we learn to narrate the past as we move along. This means that as we are changing constantly, our understanding of the past is also shifting. Accordingly, history, at its best, is the ability to visit, re-visit and revise our past as we progress in time. This understanding of history must be applied to any chapter in our past including the Holocaust.

It is no secret that Jewish institutions oppose the Holocaust being subjected to revision and the outcome of this opposition is tragic, especially for the Jews. Instead of letting the Holocaust become a dynamic universal ethical lesson it has been reduced into the new canonical Jewish religion. It has its shrines (museums) prophets, preachers and even a new God figure: ‘The Jew,’ the one who was forsaken by God, yet resurrected himself from the slaughter, and against all odds, made Israel into a nuclear super power that too often threatens world peace.

Once again, our duty to the Jews, to humanity, to Canada as well as to Israel is to fight this intellectual stagnation. To burst the bubble with an injection of refreshing and controversial thoughts. But isn’t that what Radical Press and Arthur Topham have been doing for the last 35 years?

Ladies and Gentlemen, one of the most disturbing images of National Socialist Germany’s persecution of the Jews are those old archive films of book burning. It is rather disturbing that in Canada in 2015 it is actually the Jewish lobby that leads the call for book burning. One would expect Jews to draw the necessary lesson from the Shoah. Freedom of speech and expression are our most precious assets. It is what made Athens into the core of universal thinking. It is down to us to keep this promise for the sake of our future generations and humanism in general. www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/11/9/the-expert-witness-part-1
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The Expert Witness the legitimacy of Criticising Jewish Supremacy & Criminality. 11 Nov 2015 20:29 #2

Truth Jihad radio with Kevin Barrett 11.11.2015

Today's guest, ex-Israeli philosopher-musician Gilad Atzmon, may be the world's leading expert on Jewish identity politics. So when Canadian publisher Arthur Topham was charged with "willfully promoting hatred against the Jewish people," hauled into court, and menaced with a possible two-year prison sentence, Gilad flew to Quesnel, British Columbia to appear as an expert witness. (Read Gilad's description of his testimony, "The Expert Witness").

Arthur Topham (who has appeared on Truth Jihad Radio) is a kind, decent person without any apparent hatred in his heart. It is his love of justice, not his hatred of anyone, that led him to criticize Zionism and the dark side of Jewish identity politics. Arthur and his wife Shasta, who is Jewish, have behaved with amazing restraint and decorum during their eight-year ordeal, during which their remodeling business was destroyed.

What was Arthur Topham's alleged crime? Parodying Zionist Jew Theodore Kaufman’s book “Germany Must Perish!” by changing “Germany” to “Israel” throughout the text. This tiny change produced the satirical masterpiece “Israel Must Perish!” – and led Canada’s Zionist Power Configuration to have him jailed on “hate crime” charges!

Who is the REAL hater here - Arthur Topham, or the Zionists like Kaufman who wanted to commit genocide against Germany, and are now committing genocide in Palestine with the full support of the governments of the US and Canada?

And how has Jewish identity politics morphed into genocidal Zionism? If anyone can explain that, it would be Gilad Atzmon. Listen Here

Also check out my interviews with Arthur Topham:
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Arthur Topham




Another Thought Crime Trial Underway in Canada

Miner on Trial at the Behest of the B’nai Brith


By Michael Hoffman


Quesnel, British Columbia, October 27 — Canadian Arthur Topham, 68, is a British Columbia (B.C.) placer miner who in his spare time operates the “Radical Press,” a website. On May 16, 2012 he was on his way to work at his mining operation when he was arrested by several police officers, handcuffed and charged with a "hate crime."

Topham was charged with a single count of "willfully promoting hatred against people of the Jewish religion or ethnic group,” as well as "improper storage of firearms" found in his house near Quesnel, B.C.

“The branch has approved charges against him,” said Neil MacKenzie of the B.C. Criminal Justice Branch. MacKenzie said British Columbia’s assistant deputy attorney general had signed off on the hate crimes charge.

"We’re glad that the government and the police have taken our concerns seriously and proceeded,” said Anita Bromberg of B’nai Brith Canada, which had demanded that prosecutors investigate Topham’s website. The charges are based on articles appearing at his website: www.radicalpress.com/?page_id=3864

On Monday, October 26 the trial, "Regina v Roy Arthur Topham, "commenced in B.C. Supreme Court in Quesnel, located in the interior of British Columbia in an area known as the Cariboo. (“Regina” is a reference to the British Crown).

The inquisition against the anti-Zionist dissident is based upon Sec. 319(2) of the Criminal Code of Canada concerning “Hate Propaganda” — "Roy Arthur TOPHAM, [is charged with] willfully promote hatred against an identifiable group, people of the Jewish religion or ethnic origin, contrary to Section 319(2) of the Criminal Code.”

B.C. Supreme Court Justice Bruce Butler is presiding and a jury of twelve men and women will make the final determination of guilty or not guilty. The trial is expected to end on November 6.

The defendant’s defense attorney, famed civil libertarian Doug Christie, died of cancer in 2013.

If found guilty, Mr. Topham faces imprisonment and a substantial fine. Local and national Canadian media are blacking out news of the case. Info.news is the nearest news outlet. The editor, M. Jones, can be contacted as follows: email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or telephone 250-718-2724.

The corporate American media both Right and Left have traditionally demonstrated little interest in reporting Canada’s Orwellian thought crime prosecutions of Christians, ethnic Europeans and free spirits like Topham. The government of Canada has never prosecuted any bigot for fomenting hatred against Germans or conservative Christians.

Legal arguments and background related to his case are online here:

www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/15/11/2015BCSC1185.htm



Sources and more information:

- diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2015/10/
- revisionistreview.blogspot.ca/2015/10/another-thought-crime-trial-underway-in.html
- henrymakow.com/2015/10/organized-jewry-tries-to-silence.html








- www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/11/8/the-extraordinary-trial-of-arthur-topham
- www.globalresearch.ca/the-crime-of-hate-trial-on-charges-of-anti-semitism-the-trial-of-arthur-topham-in-british-columbia/5487385
- www.darkmoon.me/2014/defense-arthur-topham/


Orangeaid wrote:
Interview with Arthur Topham re his upcoming "hate speech" trial

truth-zone.net/forum/researchers-and-presenters/65442-brian-ruhe.html?start=20#166659

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Orangeaid wrote:
The ADL will try and shut down everything other than the Simon Wiesenthal Centre :hahano:



What does the fact that they did not succeed yet in doing this mean - to you - Orangeaid?

It's nowhere near as simple as that PFIZ. The internet is a nutritiously difficult thing to police, laws also vary from country to country. There is no international law per se (yet) that enforces so called ''hate sites'' to shut down. If they do press for a site to be shut down then it is often a very lengthy process.. provided of course the owner of the site isn't intimated by the usual threats and accusations. There's literally thousands and thousands of websites out there that could be classed as ''hate sites''. A sea of websites in fact. Short from pressing a button that wipes everything ''clean'', there's little they can do at the moment.

Take Arthur Topham for example of the Radical Press in Canada, he's been fighting these people for years under threats to shut him down or sling him in jail under Canada's bogus ''hate speech'' laws. His site is still up on the web though.
truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/65789-adolf-hitler.html?start=2120#165261



Read the full article posted by Orangeaid:

I didn't know where to post this, because it covers numerous topics. However, it is a Canadian truth site expose of his dealings with Icke and him learning Icke is a zionist Jew disinfo agent. Spreading the Hitler and Nazi message as only the best Jewish Hollywood production team can do! As well as Arthur Topham seeing TPV as the lying scam it has transpired to be.

It makes a very good read. Enjoy!!


ADOLF AND ICKE: THE LONG ROAD BACK TO HISTORICAL REALITY BY ARTHUR TOPHAM

truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/65950-the-david-icke-forum.html?start=1020#103304




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in relation to A. Topham....
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/65950-the-david-icke-forum.html?start=1020#103349





Read the full comments by Zorro:


Pianist Valentina Lisitsa: latest victim of Canada’s pro-Zionist Sec. 319(2) Hate Propaganda laws By Arthur Topham
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63366-political-correctness-religion-or-induced-mental-illness.html?start=120#165038

Bad Moon Rising: How the Jewish Lobbies Created Canada’s “Hate Propaganda” Laws by Arthur Topham
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63366-political-correctness-religion-or-induced-mental-illness.html?start=120#165117











Video description:

Welcome! This video is of Paul Fromm, Director of the Canadian Association of Freedom of Expression. Paul just returned after two weeks at the trial of Arthur Topham, held is Quesnel, BC, Canada. He gives his account of the trial experience as he saw it unfold and he describes key testimony such as Gilad Atzmon's who spoke in Arthur's defence.

This is a transcript of part of the trial from radicalpress.com and you can send donations to Arthur there:

Attorney Barclay Johnson: Mr Atzmon, please make sure that we understand you correctly. Are Jews a race?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: Not at all. Jews are neither a race nor they are a biological entity, but Jewish politics is always racist or at least driven by racial orientation!

Attorney Barclay Johnson: How does the model you sketched above help to understand Israeli politics, Jewish Identity or progress in this court case?

Expert Witness Gilad Atzmon: In practice, every Jew who identifies as a Jew subscribes to one, two or three of the categories above. Let’s examine the case of an American Jewish settler living in occupied West Bank. Yes he follows the Torah (1st category), yes he is Jew by ancestry (2nd category) and certainly, he identifies politically as a Jew (3rd category). But what about the Jewish Marxists who went as far as Spain to fight Franco in the name of the revolution? These revolutionary Jews didn’t follow the Jewish religion, they were not the 1st category. They only subscribed to the 2nd and the 3rd categories. What about Noam Chomsky? He is not a religious Jew. Again, he only subscribes to the 2nd and the 3rd categories. He is a Jew by ancestry and also identifies politically as a Jew[1]. Albert Einstein? The Jury is out on that one but it would be reasonable to argue that he subscribes to the 2nd category.
I argue that it is the Jewish political element, the subscription to the 3rd category that leads towards some unsavoury acts whether they be the cold blood murder of Palestinian families or extensive Jewish Lobbying in the West. Those acts deserve criticism, politically and ideologically.

Video by Brian Ruhe.




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Arthur Topham outside the court house in Quesnel, B.C. (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation).




The Second Week of Arthur Topham’s “Hate Speech” Trial in Canada’s Supreme Court

By Arthur Topham


The second week of Canada’s Sec. 319(2) “Hate Propaganda” trial R v Roy Arthur Topham got underway Monday morning, November 2nd, 2015.




(...)

Monday, November 9, 2015 will see Crown present its summation to the jury. On Friday Justice Butler asked the jury if they would be ready to have him charge them on Tuesday morning the 10th of November. He told them that if he charged them on Tuesday that in the event they couldn’t come to a decision by the end of the day that they would have to remain sequestered through to November 11th which is Canada’s Remembrance Day federal holiday. The jury went out and discussed this and returned to tell Justice Butler that they would prefer to be charged on the 10th. That meant they didn’t think it would take more than one day to make their minds up.

As it now stands Tuesday, November 10th, 2015 will conclude the trial and a verdict will be handed down on that day.
Stay tuned folks!



Read the details: renegadetribune.com/the-second-week-of-arthur-tophams-hate-speech-trial-in-canadas-supreme-court/




The Expert Witness - Part 1

By Gilad Atzmon


The following is the first part of Gilad Atzmon’s Expert Witness Testimony at Arthur Topham’s criminal trial. This part contains a brief summary of Atzmon’s perception of the Jews and their politics. In the next part Atzmon will explain how these ideas serve to vindicate all forms of criticism of Jewish politics, ideology, symbols, rituals and so on.



Read more: www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/11/9/the-expert-witness-part-1


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Anti-Jewish web postings about 'synagogues of Satan' at heart of Arthur Topham's trial



Topham trial 'the biggest waste of taxpayer money' says his lawyer




Arthur Topham and his wife Shastah Topham leave the Quesnel courthouse Friday Nov. 6.




Arthur Topham's views on Judaism are far from "mainstream," but his lawyer says his website is far from criminal.

The Quesnel man's lawyer said Friday his client is the victim of an "inquisition" for espousing controversial views on a politically sensitive topic.

Topham is charged with willfully promoting hatred against Jewish people through his website RadicalPress.com.

Hate crimes trial underway in Quesnel, B.C.

An expert Crown witness said Friday that Topham's postings demonized and distorted Jewish people with phrases like "synagogues of Satan" and a satiric article calling for "the extermination of Israel and all Jews."

Lawyer Barclay Johnson conceded that that his client's views deviated from "the mainstream" but pointed to the fact that Topham did not hate individual Jews, and in fact, his own wife is Jewish.

In closing arguments Johnson said B'nai Brith and the former Canadian Jewish Congress alerted authorities about Topham's website, describing them as "lobby groups for a foreign government trying to shut down a Canadian web site for criticism of Israel and Jews."

Johnson then called the trial "the ultimate insult to freedom, and the biggest waste of taxpayer money."

The crown is scheduled to deliver its own closing arguments Monday, Nov. 9.


www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hate-jew-topham-quesnel-website-crime-israel-synagogues-of-satan-1.3309060





.... demonized and distorted Jewish people with phrases like "synagogues of Satan"



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9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not,
but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.


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The Religion – people who identify as Jews because they believe and follow the Torah/Talmud. Ladies and gentlemen-this category is innocent. The history of hundreds of years of rabbinical Judaism proves that orthodox Jews have never been involved in a genocidal act against another people.
While I argue that the Jewish religion is an innocent category, this is far from saying that Judaism is clean of some very problematic teachings and even racist and supremacist preaching.

Here is the problem. The historical facts are plain. In spite of some very problematic Judaic teachings that are both Talmud and Torah related, rabbinical Jews have never been involved in any collective murderous attempt against anyone else. This fact suggests that in spite of some horrid segments, it was actually the Talmud that restrained the Jews for centuries. Such a view vindicates the Talmud despite its uncomfortable teachings. But things are about to get very uncomfortable now.

It is not a secret that in contemporary Israel, it is the orthodox Jews and the followers of the Talmud who lead the most racist and murderous abuse of the indigenous Palestinian population. Thus, we have a clear question to answer. If it was the Talmud that restrained the Jews for centuries, why doesn’t it restrain orthodox Israeli Jews now? The orthodox rabbis argue that it is the addition of political orientation that interfered with Judaic peaceful teaching.

Another possible answer is that we were wrong all along. It wasn’t the Talmud that restrained the Jews, actually it was the ‘anti-Semitic’ church that repressed Jews.

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I study Torah and really enjoy its beauty and I try to follow its lessons as much as possible. There is one "detail," however, which really bothers me. Why does the Torah mandate cruelty and war? Why do we have to "wipe out" Amalek and the Canaanites? Why administer capital punishment? Shouldn't G‑d's message be one of love? What am I missing in the bigger picture? Thanks in advance for your insight.

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'Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.' (Samuel, 15:3)

Murder and Genocide

ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH religion, the murder of a Jew is a capital offense and one of the three most heinous sins (the other two being idolatry and adultery). Jewish religious courts and secular authorities are commanded to punish, even beyond the limits of the ordinary administration of justice, anyone guilty of murdering a Jew. A Jew who indirectly causes the death of another Jew is, however, only guilty of what talmudic law calls a sin against the 'laws of Heaven', to be punished by God rather than by man.

When the victim is a Gentile, the position is quite different. A Jew who murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of Heaven, not punishable by a court.

www.cie.ugent.be/CIE2/shahak.htm

But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them—the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite—just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God.[4]

So Joshua [Moses' successor] conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord, God of Israel had commanded.
Deuteronomy 20:16


According to the commandment of Milkhemet Mitzvah, war refers to a war during the times of the Bible when a king would go to war in order to fulfill something based on, and required by, the Torah. In this sense, the text limits violence to defensive tactics, as anything non-defensive needs prior approval by a High Priest.

Nevertheless, as ambiguous a statement as ‘Interest of National Security’, religious perspective of ‘Defensive Violence’ has been extremely flexible.

The Tanakh contains commandment that require the Israelites to exterminate 7 Canaanite nations, and describes several wars of extermination that annihilated entire cities and groups of peoples.

Several scholars have characterized the exterminations as a genocide, supported by the Judaic scriptures that ordered Israelite not to leave anything that breathed alive. Among the rationalizations for the extreme violence is a passage that suggests that if Judaic followers were to not strike out against the Canaanite nation, they would sin against their own Hebrew God. Evidently, the threat of sinning against their own God rationalized a supposed preemptive genocide against 7 tribes of peoples.

“It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” – Coschen hamischpat 435 Hagah 425. 5

Coupled together with the commandment to exterminate the Amalekites, there does exist a correlation between such violent attitudes and the modern era.

yearof1989.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/religion-judaism-and-violence/

The religion of Judaism including the Talmud being innocent?... :noway:

I don't see how one can separate the religion of Judaism and all that it inhabits (category A deemed innocent) from Jewish politics (category C deemed not innocent).
What was Arthur Topham's alleged crime? Parodying Zionist Jew Theodore Kaufman’s book “Germany Must Perish!” by changing “Germany” to “Israel” throughout the text. This tiny change produced the satirical masterpiece “Israel Must Perish!” – and led Canada’s Zionist Power Configuration to have him jailed on “hate crime” charges!

Oh the irony.... :hahano: Do the B'nai Brith not see through their own transparent hypocrisy... :facepalm:




Like a cobra Israel is poised:

She strikes!

The people of the civilized nations are stunned.

They exclaim, “But it cannot be again!”

But it is.

And this time it is Too Late!

For Israel wins. She is master of the world.

…and so a thousand years of peace was sold to the Devil for a moment’s respite! And only because men tried to placate the body, instead of expunging forever the bestial war-soul, of the Jew!

The sun now shivers as it rises upon a Dark world.

For slaves to the Jews are children once free.

Civilization is no more. Perversity is raged rampant.

Even the moon shudders as it wanes in a frightening chill.

This is, finally the, “New World Order!”

Shall it be so?

Our choice lies still before us:

False sentiment or courageous decision —

Which shall it be?

The End

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