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The Babylonian Talmud 26 Jan 2016 18:39 #1

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Contribute your thoughts insights, understandings, misunderstandings on the written version of the oral torah which YAYA gave to Moshe.

My contribution is the following article which appeared in the Quarterly Review of Oct 1867 and which proved so popular that the magazine had to be be reprinted several times.

It is by Immanuel Oscar Menahem Deutsch

see: www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/5140-deutsch-emanuel-oscar-menahem
Orientalist; born at Neisse, in Silesia, Oct. 28, 1829; died at Alexandria, Egypt, May 12, 1873. His early training was conducted by his uncle, David Deutsch of Myslowitz, to whom he owed his wide acquaintance with Hebrew literature. His education was completed at the University of Berlin, where, under Boeckh and Meineke, he became an accurate classical scholar. From Berlin he went to London to accept an appointment in the British Museum, to which he had been recommended by Asher Asher. Thenceforward he was known for his labors in the British Museum and for the efforts he made to promote Semitic studies in the outside world. His work in the library is, of course, not on record in a separate form; and his best official monument is to be found in the "Phenician Inscriptions" published by the trustees, in which the editor, W. S. A. Vaux, received invaluable aid from him:

Deutsch's literary work outside the museum was of two kinds: either, purely scientific essays, acute-in criticism and, lucid in statement—like the article on the Targumim and on the Samaritan Pentateuch in Smith's "Dictionary of the Bible"—or brilliant popular expositions of some learned work, like his famous essay on the Talmud in the "Quarterly Review" for Oct., 1867. This created probably a greater sensation than any other review article in England dealing with a purely literary subject, and caused that number of the "Quarterly" to be repeatedly reprinted. The article itself was translated into several languages, and contributed to create an interest in the Talmud wherever the essay was read. Though there was little that was new in the facts adduced—the literary history being derived from Wolf and the wise and witty sayings from Dukes—yet the skill with which the pertinent topics were grouped, the brilliancy of the style, and the underlying enthusiasm of the writer made it a striking performance. Some of its effect was due to the implied suggestion that the key to the life of the founder of Christianity was to be sought for in the surrounding ideas in Palestine. The renewed attention given to the Talmud in Christian circles, at any rate in England, was undoubtedly due to the article. The ambitionof his life to produce a more exhaustive work on the Talmud was thus shadowed forth; but the failure of his health compelled him to abandon the project.

This famous essay was succeeded some time afterward by an article in the "Quarterly Review" on "Islam," which was not so successful because not dealing with so novel a subject and because Deutsch was not a special student of Arabic. He also contributed the article on "Versions" to Smith's "Dictionary of the Bible," and besides wrote more than 190 articles for "Chambers's Cyclopædia." Deutsch had an excellent faculty, cultivated by practise, of deciphering inscriptions. His letters to the "Times" respecting the discovery and contents of the Moabite Stone aroused considerable attention.

During the sittings of the Ecumenical Council at the Vatican, 1869-70, Deutsch acted as special correspondent of the "Times," and wrote a number of incisive letters on its deliberations.
Bibliography:

H. R. Haweis, in Contemporary Review, 1873;
Jewish Chronicle, May, 1873:
Times, and Daily News, May 14, 1873;
Athenœum, May 17, 1873;
Lady Strangford, memoir of Deutsch in Literary Remains, London, 1874;
S. Lane-Poole, in Dict. Nat. Biography.

The article is available as 132pp in PDF here:

archive.org/details/talmud00deut

you have several options for accessing

Sometimes I am puppylike in my eagerness to share info w/o having read the full article

I admit this is the case here. I have skimmed the first 30 pp and there is a lot of praise for the Talmud from the author. This is not surprising. I hope eventually to get through all of it, but perhaps a more diligent/scholarly member of TZ will precede me.

If you do - my question is - Does the author ever quote from the book? if so what extracts?


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The TALMUD Explained For Non-Jews
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In chronological order


Part 1 - bd aka bikerdruid



bd wrote:
Cinta wrote:
GMP wrote: ''He was a crook and a nutter who could not read Hebrew. He just made shit up and became a laughing stock.
More here...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinas_Pranaitis

May I ask what your opinion is about the Talmud GMP ?


I will certainly not speak for GMP, but 1i would like to comment here.
The Talmud is HUGE and was\is compiled over millennia.
Much of it is not relevant in today's culture, as is also true with the laws of The Bible and the Koran.
Anyone who says that they "know" the Talmud, unless they have spent years studying it, in the original Hebrew, is mistaken.
www.amazon.com/Complete-Schottenstein-Talmud-English-Volumes/dp/1578190673/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1460396000&sr=1-2&keywords=talmud+complete

^^^This is the Talmud: 73 volumes, 342 pounds of books, a hundred thousand odd pages of text.
(This is a translated test. Translations are also, necessarily, interpretations. So, technically speaking,
This is not THE Talmud, either.)

What is more relevant that the immensity of the "book," is it's place in Jewish law.
Jewish law dictates that if the Talmud and the Torah are in conflict, the Torah must take precedence.
(after all, the Torah is the word of YHWH. The Torah is interpretation of that law, written by men, fallible, biased and irrational man.)
NOTE: I have read this in more than one text, but I do not claim to know much about "Jewish law," other than that which I have read in The Bible, which, of course, includes the Torah.

Anyone that posts the nasty bits online, intending to condemn a whole people, has never read the "book."
They have read interpretation of the interpretation, or little bits of ancient text, as likely as not, superseded by later entries,
quoted out of context, without reference to other entries commenting upon it, from biased sites.

That said, I most certainly do not claim knowledge of the Talmud.
I do not claim to know what it is, but I do know that which it is not.
I have not read it.
I will not be reading it in what I have left of this lifetime.
I have not enough hours left to waste, and I choose to spend them riding my motorcycles and doing whatever else I choose to do.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/64953-the-synagogue-of-satan.html?start=80#202893


bd wrote:
Orangeaid wrote:
You haven't read the Talmud have you?.

either have you, asshole ...
except the groty bits, taken out of context.
it is hundreds of thousands of pages long.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66840-lbgt-intolerance.html#205420


bd wrote:
No replies from the local nazis?
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/68802-talmudic-jews-are-responsible-for-creating-national-socialism.html#248779


bd wrote:
Roastie wrote:
"Nearly 100,000 Jews gathered at MetLife Stadium Wednesday, August 1, 2012, to participate in the 12th Siyum HaShas celebration. Everyone will celebrate their completion of the Talmud, a record of Jewish law. Many attending have red one page a day for the past seven and a half years.


a coupla lifetimes.

Well at the rate, they will have the whole thing read in a coupla lifetimes.
That's less than one volume, and there are 73 volumes.
www.amazon.com/Complete-Schottenstein-Talmud-English-Volumes/dp/1578190673

The Talmud is MASSIVE, covering several thousands of years of commentary.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html#260566


bd wrote:
Expert?
Hardly .. I looked it up on Amazon.
Never read any of it, nor will I.
However, you Nazis are always condemning the book and you have not read it, either.
I would neither praise nor condemn that about which I know nothing.
You should try it.

You guys know nothing and spend a lot of energy proclaiming it.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260674


bd wrote:
I avoid hearsay, whenever possible.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260680


bd wrote:
Bollocks .. I try to rely on primary sources, only.
I will not condemn a "book" I have not read, based on the opinions of others.
Doing so would be intellectual dishonesty.
Likewise, I never read the introduction to a book, until I have read the book.
I do not like my reading to be influenced by the opinions of others.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260683


bd wrote:
Voltaire wrote:
ok - it was harsh - however M Hoffman does expose the Talmud as a jewish supremacist text

Not surprising, since Zionism is a Jewish Supremacist doctrine.
However, I have read that if ever there is a conflict between the Torah and the Talmud, the Torah MUST take precedence, since it is the word of YHWH, whereas the Talmud is the work of men.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260693


bd wrote:
Voltaire wrote:
The Talmud is considered as the oral Torah even the jew infested wikipedia staes that.

Well, then it is a very long winded oral telling at 73 volumes of tomes.
The Talmud is commentary ON the Torah.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260698


bd wrote:
Pfizzie and Roastie ...
How much of the Talmud have you actually read?
Just the nasty bits?
It is thousands of years old.
It is entirely possible that I that time there were some rabbis that were hateful cunts.
Much of it is no longer culturally relevant to anyone.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260751


bd wrote:
ragnarok wrote:
I know enough about the Talmud and other religious works to know that I am not going to waste any of my life studying them from front to back. I've little doubt those who prosper from distracting the masses from real world, present day and future issues, would love more people to bury their heads in holy books, then spend their free time arguing over how many angels can dance on a pinhead.


Precisely.
Only morons would spend so much time condemning books that they have not read.
It would be like me condemning The Bible, if I have not read it, several times in various translations.
I have not read any of the Talmud.
I do know what I do not know.
I also know what I DO know.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66419-the-babylonian-talmud.html#260752




NOTEWORTHY:

What is more relevant that the immensity of the "book," is it's place in Jewish law.
Jewish law dictates that if the Talmud and the Torah are in conflict, the Torah must take precedence.
(after all, the Torah is the word of YHWH. The Torah is interpretation of that law, written by men, fallible, biased and irrational man.)

However, I have read that if ever there is a conflict between the Torah and the Talmud, the Torah MUST take precedence, since it is the word of YHWH, whereas the Talmud is the work of men.

The Talmud is considered as the oral Torah
The Talmud is commentary ON the Torah.




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I know enough about the Talmud and other religious works to know that I am not going to waste any of my life studying them from front to back. I've little doubt those who prosper from distracting the masses from real world, present day and future issues, would love more people to bury their heads in holy books, then spend their free time arguing over how many angels can dance on a pinhead.
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The Christ Killing Pharisees wrote the Talmud
I. THE HIGH PRIESTS PARTICIPATED IN THE CRUCIFIXION.

Annas as was the retired high priest when Jesus stood before him. The actual high priest was Caiaphas Annas's son-in-law. The priesthood was almost totally corrupted, Annas was the power and ruled through his fives sons.

They had brought the position from the Romans. They were feared and hated by the Jews. They had around them a secret police force of common thugs, who spied on the people and no one dared even whisper a word against them for fear of prison.

The chief source of their wealth seems to have been the sale of requisites for the temple sacrifices, such as sheep, doves, wine and oil, which they carried on in the four famous "booths of the sons of Annas" on the Mount of Olives, with a branch within the precincts of the temple itself. During the great feasts, they were able to extort high monopoly prices for theft goods. Hence, our Lord's strong denunciation of those who made the house of prayer "a den of robbers" (ISBE)

Such was the high priest Jesus was brought before. He had driven the sellers and money changers out of the temple a short time earlier. He openly called the temple a den of thieves.

This plus his called to righteous and repentance from sin, was sufficient reason to wish Jesus dead.

Jesus was tried first before Annas' at night which was illegal. He was not the High Priest and it was illegal to hold a trial at night in secret. The He was taken to Caiaphas' house at 3:30AM , who was the son-in-law of Annas. Again at night and illegal under Jewish law. Jesus was then taken at 6:00AM before the members of the Sanhedrin. They had no formal charge against Him so they charged Him with treason against Rome.!?!?! Jews defending Rome?! He was then tried before Pilate, then Herod and then finally before Pilate again. He was never convicted of anything...yet sentenced to death.

II. THE SADDUCEES AND PHARISEES.

The elders and scribes belonged to two political parties in the Sanhedrin. The Sadducees rejected life after death, angels or and thing supernatural.

They were the aristocracy and well to do ruling class. The Pharisees believed in God. Paul said they had a zeal, but not according to truth.

They have refined hypocrisy to a science. They passed themselves off as the religious leaders of the Jews, yet they lived on pride, power and self-righteousness. They longed for a Messiah, but they wanted a strong military leader who would throw off the Roman oppressors. They wanted Israel to be strong and powerful and a glorious nation.

They could not accept a Messiah, who came from the family of a poor carpenter, or the poor town of Nazareth.

III. THE ROMAN GOVERNOR, PILATE AND KING HEROD.

He as a puppet of Roman. His only concern was in getting rich, and making a good name so that when he returned to Roman, he would be honored.

Scandal or unrest in the captured Palestine would look bad on his record. He wanted to drop the hold matter of Jesus. But because the Jews were so upset, he had to appease them to keep the peace.

So he allowed an innocent man, that he knew had done no wrong, be crucified for his own financial and political gain.

Herod was not even a Jew, he tried to play games with Christ and mocked and belittled Him. IV. THE ROMAN SOLDIERS.

The soldier actually carried out the crucifixion. The officers were all Roman, but within the ranks were men from many countries. Germans, Gauls, Britains, the ancestors of all European and American nations.

It was as if God intended to illustrate the sin of all men, because most nationalities were represented there.

They acted as soldiers of their day. The mocked their prisoner, tortured Him mercilessly, played cruel games, Blindfolding Him they slapped Christ Jesus, and asking him who it was the hit him.

They hated the Jews, and vent their hate of all Jews on Christ. The put a crown of thorns on his head, gave him a sceptre, and some scarlet rages mocking Him, as the King of the Jews.

It is interesting that the Romans who tortured, and actually crucified Christ, are never called "Christ killers" as are the Jews.

V. THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

The cried in the streets, "Crucify Him, Crucify Him" and they mocked Jesus and the cruelest of ways.

Even as He hung in torment and terrible suffering, they mocked, him and spat on Him. Most hated him vehemently.

The Sanhedrin was completely corrupt. Controlled by two sects, the Sadducees and Pharisees. The Pharisees had controlled when they illegally sentenced Jesus Christ to death.

After his execution the Christ Killers wrote the Talmud

The Pharisees believed the Torah / Tanukh / / Mishnah had to continually redefined by man. Sadducees on the other hand were biblical literalists and saw the Torah as the word of god

The Pharisees enshrined Jewish cultural attitudes and rabbinical teachings into the hate filled Talmud
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The TALMUD Explained For Non-Jews
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Part 2 - Ausrotten aka Rat aka Cousin_Frothy aka Blue_Tackler


Ausrotten wrote:
The article below is key to understanding the the NWO's plans to create Zionism as a tool for their conquests in the Middle East and the surrounding nations. When the title of the article in view says Zionism is not Jewish, but Jesuit, it means that it had nothing to do with real, sincere Jews (really should be spelled Iewes, or in Greek pronounced Ee-ou-day-ee, Ιουδαίοι, please see my post on this here) that are of Ashkenazi (Khazarian) or Sephardic (who have real Hebrew blood) both of which who adhere to the Torah and Prophets and NOT the Satanic Talmud, Zohar and Zionism.
(...)
“The first known Illuminati order (Alumbrado) was founded in 1492 by Spanish Jews, called ‘Marranos,’ who were also known as ‘crypto-Jews.’ With violent persecution in Spain and Portugal beginning in 1391, hundreds of thousands of Jews had been forced to convert to the faith of the Roman Catholic Church. Publicly they were now Roman Catholics, but secretly they practiced Judaism, including following the Talmud and the Cabala. The Marranos were able to teach their children secretly about Judaism, but in particular the Talmud and the Cabala, and this huge group of Jews has survived to this very day. After 1540 many Marranos opted to flee to England, Holland, France, the Ottoman empire (Turkey), Brazil and other places in South and Central America. The Marranos kept strong family ties and they became very wealthy and influential in the nations where they lived. But as is the custom with all Jewish people, it did not matter in what nation they lived, their loyalty was to themselves and Judaism.” (How the World Government Rules the Nations)
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/64716-the-vent-and-the-furious.html?start=1540#138417


Ausrotten wrote:
(...)
There are countless references and allusions in Jewish and Gentile encyclopaedias to the fact that hardly any of the modern so-called "Jew" are Israelites let alone Semites. In other words, the modern Jews are not "the Jews" of the Bible,. Moreover, many sources also reveal that the religion of the modern so-called Jews is Judaism, which is merely a modern manifestation of ancient Pharisaism based on the man-made construct called the Talmud. Further, that this man-made, misanthropic religion is the antithesis of pre-exilic Yahweh-inspired Torah (of Yahwehism, the Law and the Prophets) and is accursed of God. (Deut. 5:22; 12:32 and Matt. 15:1-9). (...)
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/64716-the-vent-and-the-furious.html?start=1620#138937


Ausrotten wrote:
(...)
It was further reported that three other tribes had joined the tribe of Dan namely Naphtali, Gad, Asher. Those joined up with Dan in the land of Havila in the times of Sennacherib. They had an entire body of scriptures barring Esther and Lamentations. They neither used the Talmud nor the Mishna, but they had a Talmud of their own in which all the laws were cited in the name of Joshua the son of Nun. See Nahum Slouschz, “Travels in North Africa” Philadelphia 1927, p.227. (...)
truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/64720-dear-deidre.html?start=180#142161


Ausrotten wrote:
(...)
Historical religious views
Early Hebrew Views

The Talmud, a core foundational interpretive text of Rabbinical Judaism whose earliest passages date back to Old Testament times, has generally been seen as being pro-choice.
The following are exact quotes from p. 238 of the Steinsaltz Edition of the Talmud, translated by Rabbi Israel V. Berman, 1989 edition (published by Random House):
“A fetus is [considered as] the thigh of its mother, i.e., it is like a limb of the mother, and is not a separate entity.”
“A human fetus [is] less than a fully undependent human being.”
“A fetus cannot inherit property until it is born.”
The twelfth century Jewish rabbi Maimonides, one of the premier influences in the development of modern Jewish understanding, taught that these Talmudic passages in conjunction with the Biblical passages in Exodus 21:22, along with the “first breath” concept (as in Adam) [Genesis 2:7] permitted abortion until the baby’s head had emerged. (His work, “The Guide of the Perplexed,” completed in 1190, blended Jewish thought with the teachings of Aristotle. The work was so highly regarded that it was also embraced by other non-Jewish theologians, and was even cited by St. Thomas Aquinas as a seminal source.)(...)
truth-zone.net/forum/public-zone/66469-abortion-and-judeo-christian-religion-the-truth.html#194452


Ausrotten wrote:
Martin Timothy wrote:
The Talmud: "If you see a Christian in difficulty or drowning do not go to his help, and if he is in danger of death do not save him," the lack of effort was Jews responding to the mores of Judah.


:roll:

FYI
As books of law, the Talmuds differ greatly from the Mishnah in style and approach. The Mishnah states its rules in a straightforward manner, usually not supporting them with scriptural references or other argumentation. The Talmuds (and this is especially true of the Babylonian Talmud) are dialectical: their predominant form is debate, in which propositions are raised, attacked, refuted, and modified through the give-and-take of argument and counterargument.
Thus for example, if a person wanted to find out about the laws related to Rosh HaShanah, one would go to the tractate called Rosh HaShanah and would find there numerous laws and customs related to the festival. Likewise, if one wanted to find the laws and customs about Shabbat, one could go to the tractate of the same name.

“Correct” answers emerge out of the process of argument that fills the Talmud and all the books written to explain it. They are tentative conclusions whose rightness is based upon the ability of one school of thought to persuade the community of Rabbinic scholars that its point of view represents the best understanding of Torah and of God’s demands upon us.
www.reformjudaism.org/talmud

The fact that you bring quotes and other bits of information here out of context is not presenting the whole picture. If a pilot or crew decide to not act because they assess the situation as too dangerous that's their call, but even if they were nasty Jews out to kill/not assist Christians, they're not going to know if any person stranded on the roof is Jewish or Christian you fucking pleb. :larf:
truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/66930-911-file-the-most-shameful-act-on-a-day-of-shame.html#204810


Ausrotten wrote:
Avacyn wrote:
Are you up to repenting the evil that is the Talmud,

Religious hate speech :arowup:
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/64716-the-vent-and-the-furious.html?start=480#127173


Ausrotten wrote:
''Necronomicon or Talmud''

:notworthy:
truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/69188-berkeley-slamdown-awesome-street-fighting-again.html?start=140#258232


Ausrotten wrote:
The Talmud is the compilation of historic rabbis discussing and debating what the Torah means.

I should know, I'm king hasbara, So these arguments many of which are hypothetical can be taken out of context of the debate, and misquoted as being a literal religious law.

The rabbis require to challenge the interpretation by all means, hoping to refine a conclusion, but many discussions are not concluded and remain open ended.
truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/66202-radical-islam-judeo-christianity-talmudic-zionism.html?start=20#260689


Ausrotten wrote:
The Talmud is not an oral Torah its a book which is a compilation of historic rabbis discussing what the Torah means with scenarios and debate.

It's funny that Truthzone is quite Talmud/Jewish like, with all these debates and discussions about each and every topic on and on and on, year after year...a bunch of kikes lol
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The Talmud is being suppressed by the Jewish MSM and some alternative media sites too. They programme their sites
to delete any comments which contain the word Talmud.

Why?

Because you will find a supremacist and hateful dogma against non-Jews.

It's not speculation, it's fact.

Jews often reply saying the Bible and Qur'an are just as hateful. They're not.

I see a correlation today with what's happening in the world and the Talmud.

For example:

Financial Terrorist Banks and Zionist Governments

Zohar, Vayshlah 177b

"That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.

That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general.

A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured."

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156

"If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

Why the Talmud is Taboo in media

Sanhedrin 59a

"To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly."

Libbre David 37

"A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

Anti-Christianity

This reminded me of Trump's recent speech to the American public at Easter when he talked so enthusiastically about Judaism first, before the vast majority of American Christians. He didn't say the name Jesus, only Christ. Quite telling that. Talmudic Jews think Jesus is covered in shit in hell!

There are passages about Mother Mary being a whore and this one too:

Gittin 57a " Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

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ragnarok wrote:
I know enough about the Talmud and other religious works to know that I am not going to waste any of my life studying them from front to back. I've little doubt those who prosper from distracting the masses from real world, present day and future issues, would love more people to bury their heads in holy books, then spend their free time arguing over how many angels can dance on a pinhead.

Precisely.
Only morons would spend so much time condemning books that they have not read.
It would be like me condemning The Bible, if I have not read it, several times in various translations.
I have not read any of the Talmud.
I do know what I do not know.
I also know what I DO know.
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The Ottawa Torah Centre Chabad in Canada is funding Talmudic Lawyers

"The Canadian Institute of Talmudic Law & Ethics is a newly-founded organization under the auspices of Ottawa Torah Centre.

Its primary purpose and goal is to serve the needs of Ottawa's Jewish lawyers. A primary focal point of this initiative will be the Jewish CPD Law Conference – Comparing Modern and Talmudic Legal Systems

The Talmud’s ancient teachings are both rich and complex, and its unique analytical approach to law, is intriguing to the minds of those who dared delve into it.

The complexities of Jewish law are particularly brilliant when compared and contrasted to contemporary secular law and relevant legal matters of today."

I don't know why Chabad believes secular law is inferior.

Talmudic Law does not recognise freedom of speech.

Talmudic Law is interwoven with Noahide Law, which prohibits idolatry, punishable by death.

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The only sacred laws, are the laws of Nature*.


* Not the journal
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So from their own mouth - goyim are solely for benefit of the jews (and goyim are less than human)



more herecay (sic) ? If you think the subtitles are faked - i can assure you that the word adam (human) and goyim (nonjews) and moshiach (messiah) are used as is galut (exile).


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Gaia wrote:
The only sacred laws, are the laws of Nature*.


* Not the journal

True nature is mutable and never fixed for the life that lives within it.

The law that governs nature is cyclical.
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Exposing the Jewish Talmud



A graphic video that brings a classic Dr. Pierce broadcast to life. How can we allow such evil to exist in our world?







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Monday, October 16, 2017

America is under Talmudic law, not Sharia law


By Michael Hoffman
Copyright ©2017. RevisionistHistory.org

"My bedtime reading is the Babylonian Talmud. It’s true. I find horror literature relaxing. I take a volume of the Talmud and a pencil and sit on the edge of my bed and study for 20 to 30 minutes every night, secure in the thought that it will not be anytime soon that I run out of material, since the Talmud consists of more than 30 volumes, much of it turgid minutiae about subjects so prurient they boggle the mind (Sanhedrin 82b: “Zimri engaged in 424 acts of intercourse with Cozbi in one day”). It is perhaps the most pornographic “sacred” text of any major religion, with the possible exception of the Tantra of the Hindus.

There are passages in the Babylonian Talmud that would make Harvey Weinstein blush. Sanhedrin 69a: “A girl who is three years and one day old whose father arranged her betrothal can be betrothed with intercourse, as, despite her age, the legal status of intercourse with her is that of full-fledged intercourse. And in a case where the childless husband of a girl three years and one day old dies, if his yavam (brother) engages in intercourse with her, he acquires her as his wife...as despite her age she is legally considered to be a married woman.”

Defrauding gentiles is another favorite theme. (Sanhedrin 76b: What is the cause of sin? Returning a lost item to a gentile”).

Apologists who attempt to explain way these ignominious statements often do so by claiming that the Talmud is merely a series of debates without force of law. This deception is usually sold to those who know little or nothing about the Mishnah and Gemara, which comprise the Talmud. The claim about the Talmud being a series of non-binding debates is an insult to our intelligence. While there are many non-negotiable dogmas, the Talmudic religion is mainly predicated upon situation ethics. This explains in part why, in the 16th century, commensurate with Pope Leo X directing the publication of the finest edition of the Babylonian Talmud the world had ever seen, the popes began to enact loopholes in the immemorial Catholic ban on usury. It seems that the situation of usury had changed and that money could now be rented, despite 1500 years of Biblical and Patristic condemnation of this very act. The immutable law of God was eclipsed by man-made laws of convenience. The process is thoroughly Talmudic.

The Babylonian Talmud is indeed a body of law. It is codified by preeminent authorities such as “the Rambam” (Rabbi Moses Maimonides), author of the Mishneh Torah; Rabbi Joseph Karo, author of the Shulchan Aruch, and “the Chafetz Chaim” (Rabbi Israel Meir Kagan), author of the Mishnah Berurah, the legal code centered on the O.C. (“Orach Chayim”) section of Karo’s Shulchan Aruch. There are several other legal authorities, though few have the stature of this trio among the Orthodox Ashkenazi. The source of their binding law codes which micromanage the lives of millions of adherents, is the Talmud of Babylon, that supposed insipid series of mere “debates.”

As you may have surmised from the preceding citations, this writer has been studying tractate Sanhedrin of late, where some of the weightiest matters of halacha (rabbinic law) are propounded. The Sanhedrin volumes cover capital punishment and other forms of penal law, including the eerie concept of the rodef (“pursuer”). It is often bragged that the religion of the Talmud has suspended enforcement of the death penalty. Hence, gentiles don’t have to fear that worshippers of Jesus Christ will be executed for avodah zarah (idolatry), under the Noahide laws; that’s the cover story. The truth is that while the beth din (rabbinic court) does not formally, and as a matter of public action, issue death penalties, they do permit the preemptive execution of a person designated a rodef.


We are dealing here with lawyers. Therefore, it is necessary to be cognizant of the myriad escape clauses that are native to the Talmudic gestalt. Nowadays no rabbinic court sentences anyone to death? That’s true. Hence, people are murdered without trial. The most notorious recent case is that of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, assassinated in 1995 by Yigal Amir, a Talmud student, because Rabin was earnestly endeavoring to make peace with the Palestinians. Amir invoked the halachot of the rodef, i.e the rabbinic law governing a pursuer. Rabin was considered by the Israeli-colonialist settler movement to be a rodef, and hence he was summarily murdered as a preventive act. This is a feature of the Talmudic law governing the “pursuer.” It was conveyed to George W. Bush that the nation of Iraq under Saddam Hussein was a pursuer, and a first strike aggressive war was launched, in accordance with the Talmud, while Protestant fundamentalists and papalist neocons ran about screeching, “Beware, Sharia law is nearly here!”

Pursuers come in all shapes and sizes. They can even be Judaic children. In 1973 Americans were shocked and deeply disturbed when the Supreme Court not only legalized abortion at 12 or 16 weeks' gestation — the Court, in conformity with the Talmud, legalized abortion on demand at any time during the pregnancy, including a few minutes before the baby is born. This abominable crime against the innocent is permissible in those lands where the Talmud exerts dominion.

The relevant halacha is found in the uncensored text of the Talmud Bavli (“Bavli” denotes Babylon), in Sanhedrin 72b, where a mother believes her unborn baby is endangering her life by “pursuing” her. According to the Talmud, this unborn infant rodef can be eliminated at any time during the pregnancy, except when the mother is actually giving birth and the head of the child becomes visible.

“Before the baby is born, it is not considered a living soul, and it is therefore not subject to the halakhot (law) of murder.” — Koren Talmud Bavli: Sanhedrin Part Two (Jerusalem, 2017), p. 155.

Right wing campaigners against the alleged imminent imposition of Sharia law announce that they are defending the “Constitution against Islam.” We have never seen a case where Islamic law profoundly influenced members of the Supreme Court. We have, however, observed repeated Talmudic influence over how the court interprets the Constitution in the modern era. Roe v. Wade is one example. Another is the “discovery” of a Constitutional right to legalize the marriage of sodomites. It goes without saying that the Founders envisioned no such right, just as the Bible made no allowance for a usurping Talmud.

In the religion that is directed by the Talmud, there is no legislature. All laws are made by judicial decision. It just so happens that this is how much of the supreme law of the land is made in America. Another name for “activist judge” is Talmudic judge.

Our nation is under Talmudic law, not Sharia, though immense troops of Protestant and Catholic ignoramuses display their cluelessness as they crusade with intense fervor against a non-existent menace, while oblivious to the cancer eating at the bowels of our nation.

One wants to be charitable. One hesitates to overtax rhetoric and apply the word idiocy to the victims of what is a constantly mutating virus of deception that has hoodwinked them and 99% of the conservative movement. In lieu of such rhetoric, an observation of C. Wright Mills comes to mind, “We are at a curious juncture in the history of human insanity.”

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Talmud - now suitable for text search



For all the friends of the truth and those who want to become still, there are now the revised 12 volumes of the Babylonian Talmud. Now it is finally possible to search for words and concepts in the volumes, which simplifies the finding of the many passages that openly show that only Satan can be behind this work.

Our thanks to the unknown is understood as something very important, and the right consequence has drawn from it. Our resistance, the basis of the Enlightenment, lives and thrives through the many helpers, who simply take courage to acknowledge their attachment.

Each of you, what abilities or technical possibilities it can make available to the struggle for the truth, is asked to contribute and help unasked. The Talmud is a wonderful example, as follows.

For many years we have thirsted to have the Talmud fully available to use for the reconnaissance work. There were few who owned the 12 volumes and were able to supply us with references. Only it was never possible for us to completely fill these sites. This repeatedly led to the enemy's assertion that these passages were torn out of the context and would give a false picture. Well, this is the end now!

But this is only due to the fact that someone finally made the work, which was very laborious, and organized and financed a complete edition with the help of friends, in order to digitize it completely. Unfortunately, my technical knowledge was very limited, which led to the creation of huge files, which were not suitable for text search. But the first step was done. Many reported and complained that my work was not as perfect as it would be possible in the current state of the art. For free!

Only one (!) recognized finally what to do. And these "one" are always sought and help by their deed. For this good man, the knowledge and the technique were available to make a maximum of my preliminary work. So before you criticize about insufficient work, you'd rather think about how it can be done better, and how it can be implemented. Take it! Find the contact to which the preparatory work and offer special support. Will and deed will lead to truth and ultimately lead to victory.

And since the work now has to be passed on, you are again prompted to invest time and effort. I have already put together a number of meaningful examples, which still had to be looked for with difficulty. So use the improved versions and find passages, which we can add to the previous collection. Such excerpts can also be printed wonderfully, distributed and ready for discussion. For when Judaism is lied to the liar, when it is recognized as a child of the devil (John 8:44), his rule goes out of the dark. The essence of the Jew is hidden in his teachings and must be brought to consciousness.

(Note: click on the black box in the PDF file shown at the top right corner to access the "Download" or "Print" options.)

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it. Secure transactions via paypal.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2019 - May 2020, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 263 GBP )
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$ 239 - Raised
( £ 185 GBP )
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70%
Updated
27th February 2020

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.