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TOPIC: The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits

The Holocaust Affirmer's Minorah of Lying Traits 22 Nov 2016 19:08 #201

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So .... How many people died in the camps, Jews AND others?

Approximately 270000, most from typhus, of which were only about 50% jews, the rest convicted criminals, communist saboteurs.

Allied firebombing killed alone in one night in Dresden 250000, a Holocaust.
Just for comparison.

And how many died in Soviet Gulags, bd?
According to Solshenizyn, Bolsheviks killed about 50 Million, shot, worked and starved to death, tortured to death, frozen to death.
They still find mass graves next to major Russian cities, so precise numbers are still unknown.
Note, Solshenizyn was himself in a Gulag.
Read his books.
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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 22 Nov 2016 19:29 #202

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According to hokuspokus the body fluid runs out of burning corpses and puts the fire out, lol in that case can he please give a detailed description of the drainage systems for the furnaces?

Of course he can't because the evaporated fluid goes up the flue, it does not fall onto the heat source.

It's that ridiculous notion of hokuspokus that you should be laughing at, and indeed you would be, if you were not consumed by the Triad of Traits as described.

You are getting very desperate now aren't you?

I said no such thing.

I said that in order for a body to burn away to nothing first the bodily fluids must be evaporated.

I don't care how much you cut and paste.
Just slinging another body in the oven won't keep it going.

A desperate attempt by Rat to discredit by redicule. But a resounding FAIL nevertheless.
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The Holocaust Affirmer's Minorah of Lying Traits 22 Nov 2016 19:30 #203

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Oracle wrote:
bd wrote:
So .... How many people died in the camps, Jews AND others?

Approximately 270000, most from typhus, of which were only about 50% jews, the rest convicted criminals, communist saboteurs.

Allied firebombing killed alone in one night in Dresden 250000, a Holocaust.
Just for comparison.

And how many died in Soviet Gulags, bd?
According to Solsheizyn, Bolsheviks killed about 50 Million. They still find mass graves next to major Russian cities, so precise numbers are still unknown.

And queers, Roma, Downs Syndrome people, Jehovahs Witnesses, political disidents, etc, etc .
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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The Holocaust Affirmer's Minorah of Lying Traits 22 Nov 2016 19:31 #204

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bd wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bd wrote:
So .... How many people died in the camps, Jews AND others?

Approximately 270000, most from typhus, of which were only about 50% jews, the rest convicted criminals, communist saboteurs.

Allied firebombing killed alone in one night in Dresden 250000, a Holocaust.
Just for comparison.

And how many died in Soviet Gulags, bd?
According to Solsheizyn, Bolsheviks killed about 50 Million. They still find mass graves next to major Russian cities, so precise numbers are still unknown.

And queers, Roma, Downs Syndrome people, Jehovahs Witnesses, political disidents, etc, etc .

Lol, rubbish. You even do despicable jewish identity politics for the dead.
Disgusting.
Come on, tell me about Gulags, Soviet deportations of entire peoples, "counter revolutionaries", "socially harmful elements", orthodox priests, kulaks(peasants), Kalmyks, Koreans, Germans, Hungarians, my red shilling friend.
You are playing with fire.

Every red dot represents a Gulag, това́рищ
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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 24 Nov 2016 08:17 #205

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Still waiting for Rats feedback from the chicken test.
I shan't hold my breath.
Another awkward question....
If a cremated body typically leaves between 3 and 7 lbs of ashes
and you multiply these figures by the amount of bodies that are
being claimed to have been burnt then where is the ash pile.
Do the math . 2000 × 3lbs = 6000lbs of ash. Per day.
So where is "Ash Mountain"?

Envisage this. 6000 bags of sugar . How much space does this take up?
And the next day. Another 6000 bags of sugar . On and on .
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 28 Nov 2016 09:58 #206

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In these times, I often can't differentiate any longer between reality and satire.
“You must show this movie to your children,” Navka said in her post. “Our children need to know and remember that terrible time, which I hope, God willing, they will never know.”

But instead of focusing on the delicate matter of the skating performance that centered on life's triumph over death, critics lashed out at the pair who smiled as they skated wearing concentration camp uniforms.

Navka, as with her original Instagram post, explained her true intentions. She reiterated that skating was performed to remember the victims of the Holocaust.

“This isn’t just a TV show. This is theater. And such issues must be raised. People must remember about it,” Navka told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper.
www.rt.com/news/368387-holocaust-navka-skating-scandal/

Ratte, what is the official recommendation by the ministry of combating the crime of thought how people should think about it?
Take western jew option, or that of the eastern jews?
Its all theatre, right?

"If you want to know what will happen in America, who do you have to talk to? You have to talk to the Jews, naturally. But of course," Zakharova said, prompting applause from the studio audience of Sunday Evening, a show hosted by pro-Kremlin television personality Vladimir Solovyov.

Zakharova then adopted a cartoonish Jewish accent while impersonating her alleged interlocutor.

"They told me: 'Marochka (a Russian diminutive for Maria), you understand, of course, we'll donate to Clinton. But we'll donate twice as much to the Republicans.' That was it! The matter was settled, for me personally," she said.

Zakharova added that "if you want to know the future, don't read the mainstream newspapers -- our people in Brighton [Beach] will tell you everything," a reference to the southern Brooklyn enclave with a large diaspora of Jewish emigres from the former Soviet Union.
www.rferl.org/a/russian-government-spokeswoman-trump-won-thanks-to-jews/28124518.html
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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 28 Nov 2016 17:38 #207

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^ Just like back in the 90's it was mandatory in school to watch Schindler's List...







... which is pure evil if you think about it.
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Friggin Hollywood Nazis what can we expect :noway:


Truth is anti-semitic
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Flare wrote:
^ Just like back in the 90's it was mandatory in school to watch Schindler's List...







... which is pure evil if you think about it.

Where was it mandatory?
Certainly not in Canada.

actually ... I've never seen it. Not my taste in a flick.
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bd wrote:
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^ Just like back in the 90's it was mandatory in school to watch Schindler's List...







... which is pure evil if you think about it.

Where was it mandatory?
Certainly not in Canada.

actually ... I've never seen it. Not my taste in a flick.

"The Holocaust" was indeed mandatory school stuff, but Schindler's List wasn't mandatory in my school either. Flare must have gone to a Rothschild Institute or a Schindler School. Maybe that's why he's so deranged now...
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 28 Nov 2016 20:17 #211

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In those European countries, where there are denial laws imposed, but of course especially in the occupied FRG and FRA, school children even have to travel to Auschwitz according to the curriculum at least once or twice.

Just like Israeli children, only for opposite reasons.

The Germans to be brainwashed with guilt and the Israelis to be brainwashed with hate on the Germans.



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Students and teachers at St. Mike’s go on

Holocaust memorial trip





St. Michael's students take Holocaust trip.
Two teachers and 22 students from St. Michael Catholic High School
recently returned from a Holocaust memorial trip, which took them
from Berlin to Prague. In this photo they are posing in front of the
original location of Checkpoint Charlie.


A trip that left a lasting impression.

(this exactly was the aim of the exercise)

Read the whole story if you don't feel sick alreay => www.insideottawavalley.com/news-story/5548836-students-and-teachers-at-st-mike-s-go-on-holocaust-memorial-trip/



That's how it's done to students all over the world, even to their own:

DEFAMATION by Jewish film maker Yoaf Shamir


English




Spanish

Defamation: Dictadura judía mundial




Video description:

Documental realizado por un director judío (Yoav Shamir) que muestra como la Anti-Defamation League, es la herramienta utilizada por la judería para evitar que se conozca la verdad histórica y así las supuestas victimas, puedan hacer el papel de victimarios.



German

Die Verleumdung - Die Wahrheit über den Antisemitismus




truth-zone.net/forum/history/64344-the-holocaust.html?start=1440#164078


The film seems to be no longer available in English for certain, easy to understand reasons.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 28 Nov 2016 20:21 #212

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I find it less than a coincidence that the ones who want God most are the ones who had their young heads filled with the concept of it. Granted, there are some cases of black sheep who let down the family religious traditions and choose an entirely different path to follow, but they are a tiny minority of the overall religiously-inclined population.



As the folk saying goes:


"One man's God is another man's 'Holy Cause'".



English w French subs (this is one of the most often deleted ENGLISH language docus on yt ever)






German (better quality): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR-aPeOAtG0

When I first watched this film I was truly shocked at the extremely cruel
psycho methods of indoctrination used on Jewish children!

Not that the indoctrination on German children would be less evil,
but different and also harming soul and mind, to feel guilty eternally.

Since then I do understand why hate against Germans and everything
German is so strong in the adults and submission to the Jews is so
strong in brainwashed Germans.




bolshepedia talk: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Defamation_%28film%29

Review by Philip Weiss: mondoweiss.net/2009/04/i-saw-a-great-movie-tonight-the-documentary-defamation-by-yoav-tk-an-israeli-filmmaker-its-about-the-consecration-of-a/


ADL Statement on "Defamation,"
a Documentary Film by Yoav Shamir


Two years ago Yoav Shamir approached the Anti-Defamation League for assistance on a documentary he was making on the subject of anti-Semitism. We provided him wide access to film ADL in action, in our offices, at our annual national meeting, on leadership missions in Italy, Ukraine and Poland, and in Israel. Our expectation was that his documentary would present a serious portrait of what Jews worldwide face today -- anti-Semitism in both its age-old and new forms, and the actions taken to counter it.

After seeing "Defamation" we can only say the film fell far short of our expectation. Rather than document anti-Semites and their hatred of Jews and the Jewish State of Israel, the film belittles the issue and portrays the work of ADL and that of his own country as inconsequential. There was so much more Shamir could have and should have done.

"Defamation" is neither enlightening, nor edifying, nor compelling. It distorts the prevalence and impact of anti-Semitism and cheapens the Holocaust. It is Shamir's perverse, personal, political perspective and a missed opportunity to document a serious and important issue.

-- May 8, 2009

The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

Context: truth-zone.net/forum/public-zone/66478-god-wanted-dead-or-alive.html#194570



If someone can find DEFAMATION by Yoav Shamir in English, please post it!




Found a reup - MUST WATCH !!!





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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 29 Nov 2016 17:18 #213

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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
You don't mind me not believing any word of that? :roll:
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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.

It is nowadays from at least going back to the 90's. At least definately in Europe it is.
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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
You don't mind me not believing any word of that? :roll:

I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe me or not.
I was not on the Alberta curriculum.
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bd wrote:
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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
You don't mind me not believing any word of that? :roll:

I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe me or not.
I was not on the Alberta curriculum.
Oh, now you even speak for a whole province, twice the size of Germany?

It becomes even less believable.

What did all those Canadian soldiers, who must have been part of the curriculum, go to Europe for then? Throwing daisies at Dutch dykes? :yerright:
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Gaia wrote:
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bd wrote:
The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
You don't mind me not believing any word of that? :roll:

I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe me or not.
I was not on the Alberta curriculum.
Oh, now you even speak for a whole province, twice the size of Germany?

It becomes even less believable.

What did all those Canadian soldiers, who must have been part of the curriculum, go to Europe for then? Throwing daisies at Dutch dykes? :yerright:


Alberta has a province wide curriculum.
I taught here for over 25 years.
You know fuck all about what is taught here.
War history is briefly touched on.
If a teacher chooses to teach Anne Frank's Diary, it would be discussed.
I never used the book in my classes, nor did I have to read it in school.
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We were not talking about Anne Franks fake diary, we were talking about the Holocaust.

You want me to believe that in the whole of Alberta (660,000 km2), in both primary and secondary education in history classes over the course of some 10 years, in a young country as Canada, with an important part of history the Canadian participation in the Allied forces the Holocaust is not part of the programme? :iitm:

Indeed, I don't know "fuck" about Alberta or its history classes first-hand, but I know something about logic and other countries that didn't have such a close historical relationship with "D-day" and also of a less "developed" state, and in those countries the holocaust is touched upon.

This book from last year, partly available on Google Books, lists countries where the holocaust is treated in the school curricula:
The International status of education about the Holocaust: a global mapping of textbooks and curricula
Authors Carrier, Peter, Fuchs, Eckhardt, Messinger, Torben, Georg Eckert Institute for International Textbook Research (Germany)
Publisher UNESCO Publishing, 2015
ISBN 9231000330, 9789231000331
Length 238 pages

This publication documents the ways in which the Holocaust is presented in secondary school level history and social studies curricula worldwide, and conceptualized and narrated in textbooks from twenty-six countries, with all continents represented. Historical understandings of the Holocaust are defined in terms of the spatial and temporal scales with which the event is portrayed, the protagonists involved, interpretative patterns (according to definitions, comprehensiveness, causes, relativization or banalization), narrative techniques and viewpoints, didactic methods, and national idiosyncrasies. The study is based on 272 currently valid curricula from 135 countries, and on 89 textbooks published in 26 countries since 2000. The aim of the study is primarily to document information in such a way that it reflects local understandings of the Holocaust, principally by recording concepts and narratives of the Holocaust found in educational media currently in use in schools. The findings show both convergence and divergence in the representations analysed. The Holocaust is subject to shared patterns of representation, which include selectivity, personalization, appropriation, screening and omission. It is also subject to narrative idiosyncrasies. One of the main trends worldwide is domestication, a process whereby countries place emphasis on the local significance of the event or appropriate them in the interests of local populations. Drawing on such national and international patterns of representation, the publication concludes by formulating recommendations for future curricula and textbook narratives about the Holocaust. These recommendations relate to such issues as the use of terms, the comprehensiveness of historical facts, the definition of causes, the combination of universal and local approaches, and the development of historical literacy.

Mentioning Alberta, Canada as "partial", "mentions of the Holocaust are frequently not accompanied by clear references to groups of victims", "Kindergarten to grade 12 - Analyse ultranationalism as a cause of genocide (the Holocaust, 1932-1933 famine in Ukraine, contemporary examples)" and "Partial reference - countries whose curricula stipulate teaching about the Holocaust in order to achieve a learning aim which is not primarily the history of the Holocaust [concerning responses to the Holocaust outside Europe, for example] or to illustrate a topic other than the Holocaust where the Holocaust is mentioned as one among other aspects of human rights education"

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So you want me to believe that -although the holocaust or "Holocaust" is not fully treated in this evaluation on -also- Alberta, Canada- the holocaust is NOT part of any programme in the whole province of Alberta, Canada? During your whole career of 25 years+ the topic hasn't been part of any programme; Canadians from Alberta grew up without having heard about the Holocaust in school?

Sure. :roll:
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Gaia wrote:
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The Holocaust is not mandatory, either.
I never learned about it in school.
You don't mind me not believing any word of that? :roll:

I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe me or not.
I was not on the Alberta curriculum.
Oh, now you even speak for a whole province, twice the size of Germany?

It becomes even less believable.

What did all those Canadian soldiers, who must have been part of the curriculum, go to Europe for then? Throwing daisies at Dutch dykes? :yerright:

Altho I hardly can believe they don't teach about it in Canada, you'd be surprised in how many countries or how many people never heard of the event.

It's mostly important in Europe.

Here's disinfo agent Mark Dice (who actually has some good vids) asking people about it:

The Holocaust is "a bar and grill in southern California" Americans Think

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